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Newspeak: Pelosi Style

Up is down. In is out. Billions in earmarks are no big deal, but millions in “bonuses” merit extreme outrage. And now, per Speaker Nancy Pelosi, illegal aliens represent the height of patriotism, but enforcing American laws is “un-American”:

No I can't!

No I can't!

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi recently told a group of both legal and illegal immigrants and their families that enforcement of existing immigration laws, as currently practiced, is “un-American.”

The speaker, condemning raids by Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents, referred to the immigrants she was addressing as “very, very patriotic.”

“Who in this country would not want to change a policy of kicking in doors in the middle of the night and sending a parent away from their families?” Pelosi told a mostly Hispanic gathering at St. Anthony’s Church in San Francisco.

As some might say, that’s muy estúpido. But the Speaker wasn’t done:

Referring to work site enforcement actions by ICE agents, Pelosi said, “We have to have a change in policy and practice and again … I can’t say enough, the raids must end. The raids must end.

“You are special people. You’re here on a Saturday night to take responsibility for our country’s future. That makes you very, very patriotic.”

Our country? Perhaps Pelosi is unclear on the concept of illegal immigrants? Do you think she realizes that they are not part of our country?

And the idea that enforcing our immigration laws is somehow “un-American” is beyond ludicrous. Although, when you consider this is coming from the party that seems to think paying taxes is a only a patriotic duty if you aren’t working for the Democrats, then I suppose it makes sense.

In the spirit of Pelosi’s newspeak, may I just say that the Madam Speaker is clearly a thoughtful and intelligent lawmaker who is doing a fine job at her post.

[HT: HotAir HL]

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30 Responses to Newspeak: Pelosi Style

  • Nancy Pelosi has to be one of the stupidest people ever elected to the US House of Representatives. The fact that she got to be Speaker of that House is testament that the stupider one is, the higher they can go in this country.

    That being said, each passing day Nancy Shmancy is passing laws – and subverting them – that makes this country more and more dangerous. She must be removed from power as soon as possible.

    The word need to go out: if you vote to retain Democrats in the majority in 2010, you are voting to send this country into the pile of ruination. It is as simple as that.

  • I just wish Nancy’s name was Shirley – then we could have Harry, O, and Shirley, the three stooges of Democratic politics.

  • “Who in this country would not want to change a policy of kicking in doors in the middle of the night and sending a parent away from their families?” Pelosi told a mostly Hispanic gathering at St. Anthony’s Church in San Francisco.

    Umm… Janet Reno? Eric Holder? Bill Clinton? Nanci Pelosi? Barack Obama? The entire Democratic Party?
    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2008/11/20/obama-vp-committee-member-helped-enable-2000-elian-gonzalez-seizure

    Wow… you must have to have the memory of a gnat to be a Democratic constituent.

  • The Speaker of the House in the same room with known illegal aliens (lawbreakers) and she doesn’t call in ICE?  She not only doesn’t call them in, she insults them and tells these ILLEGAL aliens the raids must stop!  OMG!  Insanity is in charge.

    Could someone please send me a list of laws that I can break with total immunity?  I would really like to know.

  • She’s right though, “tearing our marriages, families and children apart”.   It’s one thing to tear marriages and families apart, but tearing children apart!  that’s just un-American!

  • Wow. One of the few times in her career that Pelosi extracts her cranium from her rectum and speaks the truth, and an allegedly “libertarian” blog throws an anti-freedom shit fit over it. Go figure.

    • Feel free to elaborate, Tom.  I’m curious as to how enforcing American laws is un-American, and how illegal immigrants are patriotic.

    • I’m not sure how being for enforcing laws aimed to stop ILLEGAL immigration  is “anti-freedom” but hey.

        

    • Thomas must be one of those libertarians who believes in open borders and that somehow, magically, there will be no undesirable consequences as a result, all other things being held the same. 

  • Everything malapropos stewed in irony, our Democrats, leaders of the free world!  
    Sorry, didn’t mean to puke on your shoes.

  • She should just turn her duties over to her cats.

  • If the GOP had a lick of sense (which, unfortunately, they clearly don’t), they would CRUSH the filthy dems in ’10 merely by running commercials playing the stupid things that dem (spit) leaders have said in the past couple of years.

    The fact that SanFran Nan is comfortable saying… stuff… like this demonstrates:

    1.  That she has no business being an American citizen much less Speaker of the House;

    2.  That she knows her constituents are substantially in agreement with her, and;

    3.  That her remarks will not get much play by MiniTru lest the bitter, gun-clinging, Jesus-freak bigots in flyover country get upset and throw the democrat filth out on their ears at the polls.

  • Isn’t there a clause in the oath of office she took about upholding the laws of the United States…..

  • “Feel free to elaborate, Tom.  I’m curious as to how enforcing American laws is un-American, and how illegal immigrants are patriotic.”

    Immigration laws aren’t American, they’re anti-American. The Constitution empowers Congress to regulate naturalization. It does not empower Congress with respect to immigration itself.

    Furthermore, illegal immigrants make America a better place for ingrates like you. Per the Bureau of Labor Statistics, they pay more per capita in taxes than “native-born” Americans; per HHS they consume fewer “social services” than “native-born” Americans; and per the FBI’s Uniform Crime Reports, they commit fewer crimes than “native-born” Americans. To put it a different way, they subsidize America’s welfare state AND make its streets safer for you to walk while you piss and moan about them thar dirty furriners.

    Hmmm … how are they more patriotic than you? They WANTED to be here and made sacrifices to get here. All you did was exit the birth canal, dolt.

    • Thomas, I think there is a fatal flaw in those stats (any stats re: illegal immigrants actually): How can you count that which you don’t know exists?  

      It’s like saying there is no voter fraud b/c nobody has been caught.  How can you catch someone for voter fraud if you’re not allowed to verify identification?

    • Where the fuck do you think you get off? Let’s break down your mind-numbingly stupid response bit by bit:

      (1) “Immigration laws aren’t American, they’re anti-American. The Constitution empowers Congress to regulate naturalization. It does not empower Congress with respect to immigration itself.”

      Although the choices were tough, I think this has to take the cake as best displaying your ignorance in all its pristine glory. Quite simply. “naturalization” and “immigration” are the same exact thing. From Webster’s:

      immigration: to enter and usually become established ; especially : to come into a country of which one is not a native for permanent residence

      Also from Webster’s:

      naturalization: to become established as if native

      Since the inception of this country, under laws penned by Thomas Jefferson himself, the powers to regulated naturalization vested in Congress by the Constitution have meant the ability to control which immigrants do, and which do not, become a citizens of this country. Ergo, Congress is properly empowered to control the flow of immigration into the U.S., and you are an idiot.

      (2) “Furthermore, illegal immigrants make America a better place for ingrates like you.”

      What is it that I’m ungrateful for? Where in anything I’ve ever said or written do you get the idea that I am unappreciative of anything that illegal immigrants allegedly do for me? You’re awfully quick with the accusations, but apparently too lazy to actually take the time to figure whom you’re addressing.

      (3) “Per the Bureau of Labor Statistics, they pay more per capita in taxes than “native-born” Americans;

      Well that’s an interesting tidbit. Care to back that up with a link? I’m no expert in what the BLS does, but I’m pretty sure it doesn’t collect statistics on what taxes are paid and by whom. In fact, a search for such info at BLS yields nothing even close to what you claim. Perhaps the Treasury has such numbers, but I’ve never seen them. AFAIK, no such statistics can accurately be compiled, but the chances that illegal immigrants pay more per capita in taxes is awfully unlikely, even if they do pay FICA, etc. through phony SSN’s. And that’s simply because illegal immigrants tend to work at low paying, seasonal, and/or all cash jobs. They also tend to avoid paying much sales tax since they send much of their earnings home (you know, that place to which they retain patriotic sympathies), and don’t buy big ticket items on which they would pay higher taxes. But feel free to provide a link to those BLS statistics.

      (3) “per HHS they consume fewer “social services” than “native-born” Americans;”

      Again, feel free to provide a link, because I can’t find anything of the sort at HHS. I was able to find contradictory information pretty easily, but nothing from the HHS itself. I’m pretty skeptical your assertion could be true (assuming you meant on a per capita basis) seeing as illegal immigrants tend to be among the working poor for whom services are specifically provided, and since I’ve seen with my own eyes what services are often used by illegals. But I’m perfectly willing to review the HHS statistics upon which you’re relying, so pony up.

      (4) “and per the FBI’s Uniform Crime Reports, they commit fewer crimes than “native-born” Americans

      Well, assuming again you mean per capita, and discounting the fact that each and every illegal immigrant is in violation of the law simply by being here (thus the term “illegal”), so do I. What does that prove?

      Indeed, your entire list is little more than a paean to how wonderful illegal immigrants are, for which I have neither any quarrel, nor any comment except, so what? If if everything you say about them is true, that does not make the enforcement of Constitutionally enacted laws somehow un-American. In short, you’ve waved a giant red herring and done nothing more than stink up your argument (such as it is).

      (5) “To put it a different way, they subsidize America’s welfare state AND make its streets safer for you to walk while you piss and moan about them thar dirty furriners.”

      Again you’ve assumed a great deal about me without doing the least bit of research. But I’m sure you think anyone who disagrees with your wisdom from on high must be a racist, right? Tell you what. You go ahead and find one instance where I’ve pissed and moaned about “them thar dirty furriners” and I’ll retract the entire post. Otherwise, you might want to consider making a full apology for your bigoted remarks.

      (6) “Hmmm … how are they more patriotic than you? They WANTED to be here and made sacrifices to get here. All you did was exit the birth canal, dolt.

      Who said anything about being “more” patriotic? I asked how simply being an illegal immigrant can possibly make someone patriotic. I also happen to know some illegals and guess what, they’re not staying here forever. Some want to, mind you, but not all. They come for the money, which they send back home, but not to get citizenship. They usually just want the benefits. But even if they do want to stay, how about doing it the legal way? Wouldn’t that show some respect for our laws? That would be … hmm, what’s the word? Oh, yes! patriotic.

      The fact is, I don’t hold any ill will towards people who come here illegally. In my opinion the immigration laws are a complete mess. I’ve had several friends who’ve become citizens after spending thousands of dollars and waiting 7 years or more. That’s ridiculous. But they did it the right way, and they are typically angry about others who come here and won’t follow the rules like they did. But, again, none of that changes the fact that being an illegal immigrant does not make anyone “patriotic” (in any sense of the word), nor that enforcing American laws is in any way un-American.

      And next time you call someone a dolt, you may want to be sure you haven’t beclowned yourself in the process.

  • MichaelW,

    I confess I’m at a loss to provide linkage. I did the research some years ago — 2003, I think it was — in response to a piece by Pat Buchanan. I posted it at that time to a now-defunct (but probably archived somewhere) discussion list called LPUS (the dehnbase.org version — there were later iterations).

    One way of discerning how much taxes illegal [sic -- you made my argument for me on immigration versus naturalization] immigrants pay would presumably by matching tax revenues to false SSNs. Immigrants have income taxes deducted from their pay, but don’t file for refunds. They pay Social Security taxes like everyone else, but collect no benefits. Divide the total revenue associated with false SSNs by the number of SSNs, you get a per capita tax value.

    As far as crime stats go, being an immigrant isn’t a real crime, and the UCRs in question are on crimes against people and property. The arrest rate for illegal [sic] immigrants is (or was at the time I researched it) 18 per thousand, versus a little over 19 per thousand for citizens.
    Definitions of patriotism are, of course, disputable. I’ve known a number of immigrants, legal and illegal [sic], and every one of them plausibly claimed to love America. Matter of fact, we have a case here in Missouri right now of a kid who didn’t KNOW he was an illegal immigrant (his mother brought him here when he was four), and only found out when he attempted to join the US Marine Corps and the fake Social Security card his mother hand procured for him as a child kicked back on him. Fortunately the community he’s from rallied around him, convinced the ICE thugs not to commence deportation proceedings, and are trying to get a congresscritter to do a private bill so that he can become a citizen.

    • In other words, MichaelW bitch-slapped you for your comment and you don’t have a comeback.  Man up and admit it.

  • So, Tom, one of these ILLEGAL (emphasized that word for you since you seem to focus on everything but it) aliens breaks into your house, takes up residence in your basement, eats your food, uses your electricity, uses your washer & dryer, takes up your parking spots, you’d be cool with it?  Right?

    No one is arguing being an immigrant is a crime.  Coming into the country in contravention to our laws, however, IS.  Hence, ILLEGAL in illegal aliens.

  • Yeah, I’m sure all the cash they made is being taxed using fake social security numbers.  Uh huh.   And They’re payin in more than I am?  gee what was I thinking.   And as far as them not GETTING any of that Social Security, well, show of hands kids, how many of you are collecting your Social Security benefits RIGHT NOW?   Why am I betting there’s not many hands in the air.

    So, I’m supposed to feel bad that they’re here illegally &  some are paying into a system that I’m paying into that I’ll have to wait another 13 years to even CONSIDER being able to ‘take’ money out of.  Hmmmmmm not so much.

    As for their patriotism….showing up at church on Saturday or Sunday makes you a patriot?  Again, who knew!    How about Friday, does showing up at the mosque on Friday make you a patriot?  Did those guys who flew planes into the WTC show up to the mosque on Fridays?  Just wondering how closely the correlation to showing up for church and being a patriot goes.

  • “The arrest rate for illegal [sic] immigrants is (or was at the time I researched it) 18 per thousand, versus a little over 19 per thousand for citizens.”

    Any thoughts as to why, Thomas?  It wouldn’t have anything to do with a desire to lay low and avoid the authorities would it?  I don’t think this comparison is apples to apples.

    • And let’s see there are 300 million citizens and what, 20 million illegals? So 18 per thousand, given their population vs. 19 per thousand, given the population of citizens, isn’t even close is it?

  • The idea that all illegal aliens actually work ‘on the books’ and pay taxes on their earnings is truly laughable.