Daily Archives: October 10, 2009
For Chris’ last birthday, I purchased her a brand new Auto-Ordnance M1 Carbine. And, for good measure, bought one for myself. Auto-Ordnance is a brand of Kahr Firearms, and their M1 Carbine is an exact reproduction of the first-gen M1 Carbines produced in World War II.
Well, almost an exact replica. The only difference between the Auto-Ordnance product and the original GI M1 Carbines is that the original rifles worked.
I ordered the rifles brand new through Turner’s Outdoorsman. On my initial look at the rifles when I picked them up, they looked fine. When I got them home, however, I noticed that one of the rifles had been improperly stained, with the cutout in the stock for the sling completely unstained, except for a big drip line of stain that had bled down.
This was a disappointment in terms of quality control, but not as big as the disappointment that followed.
When I ordered the rifles, I also ordered 1,000 rounds of .30 carbine FMJ milspec ammo from Georgia Arms. When I had both ammo and rifle in hand, Chris and I took them to the local shooting club where we are members. Along with the ammo, we also had both the factory 10-round magazines from Auto-Ordnance, as well as several surplus GI magazines.
The first problem we noticed that on one of the rifles, none of the magazines would seat properly, without slamming the bottom of the magazine with a lot of effort. The magazine release catch was slightly improperly placed, another quality control glitch, and one that was more serious than improperly staining the stock.
Once we began shooting, we quickly learned that neither rifle could be depended upon to shoot a single 10-round magazine without jamming, stovepiping, or other feeding problems. The GI magazines were hopeless, and the factory Auto-Ordnance were only slightly less so. The main difference seemed to be that both rifles would jam every two or three rounds with the GI magazines, while the factory mags jammed every 4 or 5 rounds.
In short, from the example of both brand-new rifles and factory mags, I concluded that the Auto-Ordance M1 Carbine is the most shoddily produced, unreliable rip-off of a firearm that it has ever been my misfortune to shoot.
I called Auto-Ordance to complain about the rifles, which were still under warranty, and telling them that I thought their products were completely useless. They offered to ship me two new factory magazines to see if that would fix the feed problems. And they told me not to use any GI magazines in them. I didn’t want the new magazines, I wanted to get rid of the rifles, which is not something they were interested in helping me with.
In view of my experience, the Auto-Ordnance M1 Carbine is a complete waste of money, and I strongly urge anyone interested to avoid them like the plague. They are utterly worthless for any purpose I can imagine. Kahr should be ashamed to produce these useless hunks of crap, and I will never, ever buy any product from Kahr again.
Now, I’m out 1400 bucks, and I’m stuck with two rifles that I despise utterly, and 750 remaining rounds that I don’t want to shoot through these non-feeding excretions from Auto-Ordnance.
By the way, apparently I’m not alone in complaining about the disgustingly poor quality and hideous feed problems of the Auto-Ordnance M1 Carbine. I ran across this thread at the Firearms Blog, where nearly every commenter has similarly bad opinions of the rifle’s quality, and Kahr’s poor customer service.
This really reinforces my opinion to steer clear of any Kahr product in the future.