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Enabling Missile Technology To Go To China – Again

One of the reasons Democrats are pounded on their seeming lack of interest in National Security are things like this:

President Obama recently shifted authority for approving sales to China of missile and space technology from the White House to the Commerce Department — a move critics say will loosen export controls and potentially benefit Chinese missile development.

The president issued a little-noticed “presidential determination” Sept. 29 that delegated authority for determining whether missile and space exports should be approved for China to Commerce Secretary Gary Locke.

Now the folks at Commerce say, hey, don’t worry, we’ll make sure they don’t get the good stuff:

Commerce officials say the shift will not cause controls to be loosened in regards to the export of missile and space technology.

Eugene Cottilli, a spokesman for Commerce’s Bureau of Industry and Security, said under new policy the U.S. government will rigorously monitor all sensitive exports to China.

Except this is exactly the same set up which, under the Clinton administration, enabled China’s missile and rocket program to make its own “great leap forward”.

Let’s summarize – previous setup under Commerce:  rocket and missile technology manages to find its way to China.   Setup is changed to where the entity charged with national security must approve such sales:  technology transfer stops.

So why, then, would you abandon something that works and re-erect the setup that didn’t?

Well, one could logically conclude, among other things, that you’re not real serious about national security – that’s why.



22 Responses to Enabling Missile Technology To Go To China – Again

  • “President Obama recently shifted authority for approving sales to China of missile and space technology from the White House to the Commerce Department — a move critics say will loosen export controls and potentially benefit Chinese missile development.”

    Wait – didn’t this happen once before? Didn’t a Demmie in the White House, with no experience in foreign affairs or military matters make the same idiotic move?

    Oh, now I remember…Bill Clinton did the exact same thing, because he was getting bribes from the Communist Chinese government.

    And, if you remember, one of the minions he placed in the Commerce Department was a little thug named Johnny Chung. You remember him – when questioned, he took the Fifth Amendment more than 200 times. He knew who buttered his bread.

    Irony of ironies, guess who is now the Secretary of Commerce? It’s former Washington State Governor Gary Locke…who, by the most incredible of circumstances, was aided in his runs for Governor by a little-known bag man who raised some suspicious cash for him named…Johnny Chung.

    Do you think that lightning strikes the same place twice? It sounds like The Clown™ we have in the White House now learned nothing from The Clown™ we had in office from 1993 to 2001. A thief is a thief is a thief is a thief…and these people are thieves.

  • Theodore Roosevelt once said something that remains true even to this day:

    “I know that not every Democrat is a horse thief, but how come every horse thief is a Democrat?”

    Still relevant, Teddy – and even more so today with this crowd of thugs in power in DC.

  • missile defense for friendly nations-> bad

    missile tech for not very friendly nations -> good

    Obama the upside down man

  • So you guys are paranoid about China too? Fear! Fear! Fear!

    China’s not a military threat. But we do need them to keep buying our bonds and currency. That gives them leverage. That’s not Obama’s fault. Get used to it — whether Republican or Democrat, any President is going to have to operate in a different environment. Economics is more important than military, and US is vulnerable especially on the economic front.

    • China’s not a military threat


      What color is the sky in your world?

    • China couldn’t hardly land a missile on the North American continent in the early ’90s. Now that’s gone and we’re wondering when NK will be able to do it.

      I guess the lack of purity of the former Soviets and Red China hasn’t shaken your faith in propagandizing for them.

    • I can’t think of a series of more blatantly stupid, objectively disordered, and empirically deficient statements than your comment, Scott.

      For students who somehow find themselves in your international politics classes I’ve got to believe that it isn’t that much different than having Professor Irwin Corey in front of the classroom.

      You’re ridiculous.

    • And, Scott:

      “So you guys are paranoid about China too? Fear! Fear! Fear!”

      For the sake of “the children” could you possibly stop talking like a little sissy and peeing in your pants in public. When “the children” see that sort of thing coming from the big bad college professor, it effects their self-esteem.

    • China’s not a military threat? Suppose China decides to invade and seize control of Taiwan. What then? Do we fight for an ally or leave its carcass twisting in the wind?

      • China will eventually suck Taiwan back into it like the Blob devouring the projectionist (I’m sure everyone has seen the original movie). That’s my conclusion about the way China works and the way Taiwan is slowly cooperating. Too bad for Taiwan, and too bad for China, too.

        But that is the least of the threats it poses. And I’d bet that it is taboo to even discuss some of those threats inside the U.S. national security establishment. The mobile 800 pound man gets what he wants at the burger joint, and when he’s heir to a mad totalitarian murder machine, he’s not necessarily that interested in the rules, either.

      • Don’t buy into the diversion about whether or not China is a military threat. This is about national security, or lack thereof, and going back to a situation that was proven to compromise it.

        • God, you’re right

          Diversion really is Erb’s best tactic.

        • Right, prudential judgment on national security says that you don’t facilitate ballistic missile proficiency in an unreliable actor, with known ties to terror states (Iran, North Korea) and with its own sometimes amorphous ambitions.

          If you read closely what Erb is saying, it’s that China holding and buying our debt gives it the power to blackmail us on defense technology. That is simply outside of the realm of proper prudential judgment and cannot be cloaked as a “new reality.” It is also very unsound domestic politics, but we now know that our mass media both doesn’t cover anything suspicious about this administration and probably doesn’t want to offend China, either. (Cf. CNN’s carefully controlled coverage of the Hussein regime so as not to offend it.)

          Either nobody is home on this inside the Obama administration, or they know exactly what they are doing. I’ll vote for the latter. The motive is less apparent, though I would not rule out some twisted sense of ideological confraternity.

          The Chinese are not stupid, and they can take anything you give them, reverse engineer it in a jiffy, and make improvements on their own. Even if it’s not then what they really hope to have, it can be passed on to other states with less demand for state of the art. But that aside, before we know it we’ll wind up in a position of mutual deterrence with China and people like Erb will argue that it was true all along.

          The culpability of the Chinese in a number of dangerous international situations (like North Korea) is virtually a taboo subject in Washington. If there ever was a legitimate claim that Iraq or the war on terror was a “diversion” there is where you would apply it — to the troubling matter of China and its sometimes amorphous ambitions.

    • Erb said: “China’s not a military threat.”

      Wow. I just have to say it…wow.

      I hate to say it, but that’s it for me. I cannot respond to this imbecile. It is impossible that one person could be this stoopid. And if so, I feel that even bothering to show him what an incredible imbecile he is will rub off on me. Just responding to this crap, and I think my IQ went down 5 points.

      No more responses to this loon. If we ignore it, perhaps it will slink off back to the sh!thole it comes from – because whatever place it does come from, it has to be called Planet Moronia.

    • Religion may be the opiate of the masses, but Marxism is the LSD of academia.

  • Our government is for sale to the highest bidder.

    There’s money to be made by allowing this deal to go through. The Chinese government and a few corporations will likely reward the democrats properly for this and maybe toss a cookie to the republicans keeping this on the lowdown.

    I don’t be ideology drives Washington as much as they let us think.

  • Cripes, the Rosenberg’s were executed for much the same thing.

    I wonder how the IgNobel Piece Committee would look at this?

  • China supplied Pakistan with missile tech.

    Pakistan supplied everbody with a paypal account.

    Plus, Iranians use Chinese made missiles like the Silkworm. Sure, not a ballistic missile, but I bet some of our tech can help make those better too.

    Oh, and since Chinese nukes can hit mainland USA – by definition, China is an existential threat to our nation. If the Taliban is not, according to Erb, that’s debatable at least, but China could attack us with nuclear weapons – the capability determines the threat.

  • As I recall, the problem with illegal missile technology transfer did not involve the usual bag men, but Loral. It stemmed from contract awarded to the Chinese to launch American satellites. After spectacular guidance failures, Loral sent an engineering team there to assist. To avoid a fine, the CEO apparently gave the DNC and the Clintons money.