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AGW Science Controvery Heats Up

At least in Europe.  And it is the only thing about this controversy that’s warming. One of the main warmist propagandists has been forced to concede that the revelation of the emails from within the CRU is a damning bit of evidence that things are not right (or ethical) with the results produced there:

It’s no use pretending this isn’t a major blow. The emails extracted by a hacker from the climatic research unit at the University of East Anglia could scarcely be more damaging. I am now convinced that they are genuine, and I’m dismayed and deeply shaken by them. Yes, the messages were obtained illegally. Yes, all of us say things in emails that would be excruciating if made public. Yes, some of the comments have been taken out of context. But there are some messages that require no spin to make them look bad.

There appears to be evidence here of attempts to prevent scientific data from being released, and even to destroy material that was subject to a freedom of information request. Worse still, some of the emails suggest efforts to prevent the publication of work by climate sceptics, or to keep it out of a report by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. I believe that the head of the unit, Phil Jones, should now resign. Some of the data discussed in the emails should be re-analysed.

George Monboit then goes on to try to salvage the theory by downplaying the significance of the find. According to him, it’s only about three or four scientists and one or two lines of evidence out of hundreds. Of course “one line” of incorrect or fudged evidence is more than sufficient to crash a theory. In an article that can only be characterized as goal post shifting, Monboit claims skeptics would have to produce evidence of a much wider conspiracy to fudge or hide evidence before he’s willing to concede AGW is a scam. He writes a rather sarcastic faux email to demonstrate the level of evidence necessary as far as he’s concerned.

However, one has to recall that the CRU’s data was part of the basis for the UN’s IPCC report that is being used to move these absurd and costly climate change treaties, such as Copenhagen, forward. When even alarmists like Monboit are forced to concede the CRU emails are damaging, that provides more than a reason to stop this mad rush to do stupid and unnecessary things and, as he says, “re-analyse” the data. This time by real scientists, in the open and with all the data. One other thing Monboit and I agree on – Phil Jones should resign. Too bad he can’t take Al Gore with him.

Christopher Monckton, a leading warming skeptic, is mad:

The tiny, close-knit clique of climate scientists who invented and now drive the “global warming” fraud — for fraud is what we now know it to be — tampered with temperature data so assiduously that, on the recent admission of one of them, land temperatures since 1980 have risen twice as fast as ocean temperatures. One of the thousands of emails recently circulated by a whistleblower at the University of East Anglia, where one of the world’s four global-temperature datasets is compiled, reveals that data were altered so as to prevent a recent decline in temperature from showing in the record. In fact, there has been no statistically significant “global warming” for 15 years — and there has been rapid and significant cooling for nine years.

Worse, these arrogant fraudsters — for fraudsters are what we now know them to be — have refused, for years and years and years, to reveal their data and their computer program listings. Now we know why: As a revealing 15,000-line document from the computer division at the Climate Research Unit shows, the programs and data are a hopeless, tangled mess. In effect, the global temperature trends have simply been made up. Unfortunately, the British researchers have been acting closely in league with their U.S. counterparts who compile the other terrestrial temperature dataset — the GISS/NCDC dataset. That dataset too contains numerous biases intended artificially to inflate the natural warming of the 20th century.

Finally, these huckstering snake-oil salesmen and “global warming” profiteers — for that is what they are — have written to each other encouraging the destruction of data that had been lawfully requested under the Freedom of Information Act in the UK by scientists who wanted to check whether their global temperature record had been properly compiled. And that procurement of data destruction, as they are about to find out to their cost, is a criminal offense. They are not merely bad scientists — they are crooks. And crooks who have perpetrated their crimes at the expense of British and U.S. taxpayers.

There you have a representation of the two sides at the moment – the AGW side forced to admit the significance of the scientific misbehavior of some of the primary scientists behind the warming theory and the skeptical side, feeling vindicated but angry. Stay tuned for more developments, but don’t look for them in the US media. They seem to be preoccupied with much more important things – like the Obama’s first state dinner (in a tent, no less).

~McQ

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35 Responses to AGW Science Controvery Heats Up

  • I’ve seen other comments to that effect.  “There’s still a mountain of evidence to prove that man is causing global warming!”  But I have to wonder how much of that evidence was based on data that will need to be re-checked for authenticity now.  Some of the comments in those emails (for example, their concern over the fact that warming on land proceeded at a pace twice that of warming on the oceans, an indicator that land-based measuring systems may be hopelessly compromised) put the temperature record in some doubt.
     
    And if the temperature record is in doubt, how exactly can we claim that there is a warming trend?  Or any trend at all?  If that is the entire basis of the debate on climate change, then it looks like the debate needs to be set aside while we try and figure out if it’s even necessary in the first place.

    • They have been cashing in on the “urban heat island” effect (which to their benefit is man-made), but has crept up to many of the weather stations.
      But there is a big difference between local climate and global climate, which includes the oceans .. and the satellite data doesn’t show any major danger.

  • Did these people learn nothing from Schön??

  • I bet Obama is sorry he did health care first.
     
    OTOH, there’s far too many people who’ve hitched their horses to the AGW wagon.  They will take years to go away.

  • Careful with the George Monboit piece .. the last part, the e-mail,  just smacks with sarcasm, which makes the first part suspect.

    • Nah – he can’t help but admit the emails are bad if he hopes to maintain any credibility at all. But then, as I mention, he uses a sarcastic faux email to do a little classic goal post shifting. It’s a diversion in an attempt to try to keep the wheels on the AGW bus.

  • At a minimum, this ought to scuttle Cap-and-Trade for this Congress, not that its chances were very good to start with.

    I thought the political storm coming next year couldn’t get any worse for the Democrats, but somehow ways continue to be found. I think many voters will probably ignore the details (study was done in Britain, it’s one of many studies, etc.) and just latch on to “global warming is a fraud, and my Democratic representative was gullible enough to buy it.”

    It’s just icing on the cake after (1) highest unemployment since the Great Depression, (2) anger over the healthcare bill,  (3) one stupid foreign affairs mistake after another, (4) ACORN scandals, which are cooking quite nicely to be a major news item much of next year, and (5) miscellanea such as the Walpin firing, which now looks to have a sexual abuse component on the part of Kevin Johnson.

    If the GOP establishment had any brains and spine, they would ride this wave for all it’s worth and do another 1994. But they won’t. The cowards will sit back, let the Tea Partiers do the leg work, and expect to be re-elected along with a bunch of new Bill Frists that they will co-opt into the Republican elite. With luck, they’ll get a majority back, and if not, hey, they’ve still got their limousines and 2012 to get more seats. Then they can screw things up, paper over the coming meltdown, and reap the personal benefits for four to eight years before the voters get sick of them and get Obama’s bad taste out of their mouth, and try the Democrats again.

    I want off this merry-go-round. Isn’t there another ride in the park we can try? At this point, I’d take a dangerous roller coaster.

    • 2) anger over the healthcare bill
      The mitigating circumstances here are that the fear by business of “Cap-n-Tax” and ObamaCare is keeping the recession alive.  Virtually all hiring by mid & large-cap businesses is offshore, mostly due to domestic uncertainty.
      If the Democrats dropped “Cap-n-Tax” and ObamaCare today and went back to actually passing a budget (did anybody notice that there still isn’t a budget 6-7 weeks into the fiscal year), they could actually salvage their skins by election day .. so pass the popcorn and let them play on.

  • However, one has to recall that the CRU’s data was part of the basis for the UN’s IPCC report that is being used to move these absurd and costly climate change treaties, such as Copenhagen, forward.
    That’s what needs to be emphasized:  It’s not just this or that data set, it’s that a lot of other papers, research and proposed or passed laws are based on this GIGO.  AGW believers can claim that other data sources support their position, if they wish, but everything based on these data sets, wholly or in part, must be discarded if they want to claim any amount of scientific justification.
     
     

    • I’m sure there’s a lot of models developed or validated with this data too, that need to be revisited.

  • Too bad he can’t take Al Gore with him.
    Did anybody bother to notice that Al Gore has mitigated his obsession with CO2 ?
    Al has noticed that the battle for CO2 is lost and has decided to fight his war street corner to street corner, so he has moved on the methane.

    • If Gore remains true to his MO, watch for him to buy stock in companies that manufacture Butt Plugs.

  • McQIn an article that can only be characterized as goal post shifting, Monboit claims skeptics would have to produce evidence of a much wider conspiracy to fudge or hide evidence before he’s willing to concede AGW is a scam.

    Note, of course, that anybody who is skeptical of AGW is a “denier” (said with that same snarling invective as a nazi would have said “Juden!” or a klansman would say “nigger!”) and naturally in the pay of Big Oil.  See, it requires no evidence at all to write off deniers as part of a conspiracy, but it requires mass confessions to demonstrate that AGW is a conspiracy.

    What Monboit (Moonbat?) overlooks is that not all “conspiracies” require sinister organizations, shadowy figures and secret meetings in smoke-filled back rooms.  I suggest that the AGW conspiracy is, to a large extent, a result of groupthink reinforced by selective use of grant money and media coverage.  For the past several years, a lot of bigwigs in government, academia, media, and among the wealthy left have (for various reasons) supported the idea of AGW.  Hence, money flows to scientists whose work “proves” its existence, and they naturally are going to be in no hurry to derail the gravy train (it would be of some interest to examine Phil Jones’ offices and pay over his career; I suspect that they got A LOT better when he became a global warming guru).  Likewise, the media gives flattering coverage to AGW scientists, who thus aren’t going to be in any hurry to reexamine their data and find that it isn’t what they first thought.  Further, nobody wants to become a modern Martin Luther by doing and publishing work that challenges the reigning orthodoxy.  It’s much easier to get along by going along.

    McQHowever, one has to recall that the CRU’s data was part of the basis for the UN’s IPCC report that is being used to move these absurd and costly climate change treaties, such as Copenhagen, forward.

    More than that, the CRU data (if we can can such fabricated and altered material “data”) provides a paradigm for casting other, anecdotal data as part of the “evidence” of AGW.  Particularly bad Atlantic hurricane season?  GLOBAL WARMING!  Less ice in the Arctic?  GLOBAL WARMING!  More jellyfish?  GLOBAL WARMING!  Because of the phony AGW theory, supported by falsified data, people stop searching for or outright disregard alternative explanations for observed phenomena, much as the Soviets used to write off economic failures as the work of “wreckers” and “spies”, or doctors of a few centuries ago would write off mental illness as the work of demons, or the ancients ascribed the motion of the stars to the turning of celestial wheels.

    Lord MonktonUnfortunately, the British researchers have been acting closely in league with their U.S. counterparts who compile the other terrestrial temperature dataset — the GISS/NCDC dataset. That dataset too contains numerous biases intended artificially to inflate the natural warming of the 20th century.

    Ah, so the trail leads to America, eh?  Well, well… Wonder if Inhofe will get his hearings?  And what they might uncover about collusion between US and British AGW “scientists”?

    Lord Monkton… these huckstering snake-oil salesmen and “global warming” profiteers — for that is what they are — have written to each other encouraging the destruction of data that had been lawfully requested under the Freedom of Information Act in the UK by scientists who wanted to check whether their global temperature record had been properly compiled. And that procurement of data destruction, as they are about to find out to their cost, is a criminal offense.

    We can only hope.  I wonder what Jones and his fellow con men might say under oath, especially if given the (ahem) inducement of reduced or suspended sentences for ratting out other members of their gang.  As I wrote yesterday, I would like to see them prosecuted under the RICO laws.

    But, of course, I would expect their allies in MiniTru to rush to their defense.  After all, the threat posed by global warming is so serious that the scientists, realizing that politicians cowed by Big Oil and the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy would not act in time, emphasized certain data to try to get fast action to save the planet!  At the very least, they’ll pass it off as the rogue actions of a few scientists that shouldn’t reflect on the rest of the honest, hardworking men and women who are laboring to save the planet (cf. ACORN).

    • Note, of course, that anybody who is skeptical of AGW is a “denier” (said with that same snarling invective as a nazi would have said “Juden!” or a klansman would say “nigger!”) and naturally in the pay of Big Oil.

      Of course, CRU is funded by government, but as we all know, government is good, and pure, and transparent…

  • Again, I hate to keep repeating it, but Crichton nailed the playbook for all this in State of Fear.

    It’s as though he saw through the hoax and the hoaxers with x-ray vision.

    • One doesn’t need x-ray vision, it just requires one not have one’s head up one’s ass!

  • Obviously, all of this will be ignored by the White House …

    Obama Science Czar John Holdren is directly involved in CRU’s unfolding Climategate scandal. In fact, according to files released by a CEU hacker or whistleblower, Holden is involved in what Canada Free Press (CFP) columnist Canadian climatologist Dr. Tim Ball terms “a truculent and nasty manner that provides a brief demonstration of his lack of understanding, commitment on faith and willingness to ridicule and bully people”.

    • The name, John Holdren (Obama’s Science Czar) shows up in 6 of the e-mail streams. Five are merely cc:-s, but one to Michael Mann is from Holdren where he pokes fun at his “Harvard” colleagues Soon and Baliunas (1066337021).

    • All of cc-s, part of the same partial streams includes, Rosina Bierbaum in a discussion of sulfate emissions from China causing cooling …

      In April 2009, President Obama named her [Rosina Bierbaum] to the President’s Council of Advisors on Science and Technology (PCAST). PCAST consists of 20 of the nation’s leading scientists and engineers. They advise the President and Vice President directly to help the administration formulate policy in the many areas where understanding of science, technology and innovation is key to forming responsible and effective policy.

    • The spelling is actually Monbiot. He’s a lefty British writer or no particular consequence. But since he’s  a known lefty, if he thinks the East Anglia folks have a bit of a problem, it’s a cinch that they have a really big problem.

  • The science never supported the claims of the global warming backers.  At best, it was mixed.  This is a perfect example of what I call “science in pursuit of an agenda.”  It is the same sort of science that chased after Washington apples because of Alar contamination, breast implants and tells you to eat one thing one day and reverse it the next.

    Agenda driven science and the media’s general lack of knowledge on anything to do with science or the scientific method leaves a perfect storm for progressive exploitation to gain control over more of our lives.

    Joe Howell
    Editor, The Right Viewpoint
    http://www.rightviewpoint.com

  • I love this…
    I have said for years that the data set that was being used by environmentalists to “prove” man-made global warming was statistically insignificant.
    I said that scientists were letting their politics and bias cloud their judgement and come up with conclusions that were not accurate.
    I knew that they were trying to silence the actual scientists who can be objective from talking about the problems with the global warming data.
    I never thought that they were simply making things up…
    I guess you can never go to far down, down, down when it comes to the mind-set of a liberal.
    So algore won a Nobel Peace Prize for making a movie that was full of lies even before this new batch of lies was reveled.
    I just sit and think about all the liberals all over the Internet and specifically on this blog that made global warming their religion.
    They bashed me and other conservatives as not being able to keep up with the times, for not believing in science.
    The problem was that I did understand how research and data collection work and you guys did not.
    I would really love to see all the blind-sheep liberals come on here and admit that man-made global warming is completely made up.
    We need to stop destroying the economy of the world and especially the US economy for this made up religion.
    It has been proven now…even more so than it was before.
    First a few links:
    Climategate: the final nail in the coffin of ‘Anthropogenic Global Warming’?
    Junk science exposed among climate-change believers
    and here you still have king moron with his head in the sand, embarrassing himself and those who follow his religion..embarrass them if that is possible…
    Obama: ‘Step closer’ to climate deal…
    You have to believe that these guys always knew global warming was made-up…they really couldn’t be this stupid, could they?
    This has to be about destroying capitalism or taking down the big, bad dirty companies, right?
    Please tell me you guys are really not this stupid?
    And that you continue to be after your whole Bible has been proven made up and a lie.
    Tell me you have just a little bit of dignity

    • Heh, not gonna happen.  You don’t understand, the lying was for your own good.  We have to save the world for…the…uh…earth spirit, which will, uh, cherish the remains of man.
       

    • I just sit and think about all the liberals all over the Internet and specifically on this blog that made global warming their religion.

      I presume you mean some of our commenters.

      • Don’t forget Jon Henke :)

        • Well, Jon’s not a liberal, though he did buy into human-caused global warming.

          As with his foray into “the media isn’t that biased, just sloppy”, I wonder if he will backtrack someday. I never understood his position on either of those issues; he seemed to be taken in by the left rather than reaching the conclusion via his own analysis. I hope he has learned, from his reaching out a hand and getting it bitten numerous times, that the time for good-faith engagement with the left is gone, gone, gone.

  • I think the phrase “Fake, but accurate” is about to make a comeback.

  • Econtalk.org had a podcast a while back with a biologist, Daniel Botkin, who thought the IPCC report regarding the animal evidence for AGW was wrong too. He then said he had no idea about the other parts of the IPCC report.
    Which is a great way to silence even more dissent. Maybe a scientist disagrees with the mud sedimentation study, but there is so much other evidence, that they don’t speak up. Best not to make waves.

    • Phil Jones wrote:

      About 2 months ago I deleted loads of emails, so have very little – if anything at all.

      Obviously, Jones missed a couple of e-mails, so we are left to wonder .. what did he delete ?

  • Has someone put together a list of who exactly is implicated by these emails?
    I know we’ve got
    Phil Jones
    Michael Mann
    Keith Briffa
    Ray Bradley
    Gary Funkhouser
    Dave Schimel
    Tom Wigley
    Mick Kelly

    Who else, and are these appropriate to put on the list?
    Once this list is put together, every scientific paper that they’ve written or been involved with should be scratched as invalid.
    What will we have left after that?  That’s the real question.  Personally I don’t think there will be much more than the offhand remarks thrown into the conclusions of the studies to genuflect in the direction of the AGW magistrates.