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Biting the hand that feeds it?

It is getting to be fun now.  Tea Parties to the right of us, union parties to the left …

The SEIU (Service Employees International Union), often seen at Tea Party rallies trying to introduce a little violence, has decided that NC would be a good state to test out their promise to Blue Dogs that they’d go after them if they didn’t support the agenda the SEIU Democrats wanted.

Wow, Blue Dogs and Dem lap dogs going after each other. You have to like it.

The SEIU says it will do so via a third party – North Carolina First – which, of course, bypasses the whole primary gig.  That means those Blue Dogs they’ve targeted (Dem. Reps Heath Shuler, Mike McIntyre, and Larry Kissell) will face the SEIU candidates in the general elections in traditionally red districts, thereby reliably splitting whatever blue vote there might be and ensuring a GOP victory.

Of course, that’s if the Tea Party (TP) isn’t running a candidate of its own in the general election (although indications are TP candidates are more likely to challenge in the GOP primary vs. a general election).

The SEIU is teaming up with State Employees Association of North Carolina (SEANC) to try and stand the party up and field candidates for the fall election.  Anyone who wants those  3 seats to go to the GOP is most likely wishing the SEIU and SEANC a lot of luck in doing just that.

Greg Sargent thinks this is a “a serious experiment in reshaping the landscape of Democratic politics, and it bears watching” implying could be a template for similar attempts in other states.  I sure hope so.  And if so, coupled with the TP, it would be an attempt on both sides of the political spectrum to move the primary party in that part of the spectrum more to the left or right respectively.  You have to wonder how independents would react to success in such attempts and then which way they’d tend to go to lend their support.



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11 Responses to Biting the hand that feeds it?

  • This is a distraction from any free publicity that a 3rd Party Tea Party might get from default curiosity.   The idea is to dilute and desensitize the public to the notion of a 3rd Party.  Cover the SEIU candidate as the 3rd party feature (everyone is upset with incumbents, blah blah blah), when the Tea Party candidate shows up, well “we’ve already done features on 3rd parties of from dissatisfied voters.  We’ll cover them only after they become significant”.

  • Oh, this will be sweet. First, the Tea Party should not run candidates, just support them, to hold reps feet to the fire. I think this works well in American politics, where third party’s with good ideas simply find their ideas stolen. (a good thing if the idea is  small government.)
    But a Union party – that’s just helping the small government side. They cannot seriously get enough voters to support a union party – the voters are not stupid. And yet they have to vote for their own kind, right?

    • The Tea Party restricting itself to only voting from the Big 2 will change nothing.  Nothing will depower the movement quicker than closing the door to a 3rd party potential.  Republican will just assume the position of taking the Tea Party for granted as the lesser of two evil option like they have been doing for over 20 years. 

  • It will be interesting to see how – and even if – this plays out.

    1.  Is this a serious threat?  As McQ points out, challenging blue dogs from the left in a conservative district will lead likely to a GOP victory.  It’s the same problem conservatives have with RINO’s: would they rather have a member of Congress who sometimes votes with the democrats, or almost always does so?

    2.  I’m not sure that the SEIU, like any other bacteria, can afford too much sunlight.  If I recall polls correctly, unions are not especially popular with the American public these days.  Blatant evidence of unions attempting to influence elections isn’t going to endear them to a public already fed up with special interest politics. (As an aside, I don’t recall ever hearing of the SEIU before the ’08 elections.  Where did they come from?  Are they a front organization?)

    3.  How will the blue dogs themselves react to this?  The democrat trash still have several items on their agenda that they want to ram through before January (when, with any luck, we’ll see an end to democrat control of Congress), and they need all the votes they can get.  It’s a bit much to ask for the vote of a member of your caucus that you’re targetting because of his disloyalty.

    McQYou have to wonder how independents would react to success in such attempts and then which way they’d tend to go to lend their support.

    Good final point.  If polls accurately show independent disdain for the dems’ agenda, it seems foolish to think that they can be induced to vote for candidates who are even more determined to enact that agenda.

  • Political freedom and independence today begins with freedom and independence from the dictatorship of the Democratic-Republican two-party state and duopoly system of government.

  • “The Tea Party is the most pro-family org. ever! Everywhere they go, Dems decide to ’spend more time with family.’”

  • Heh!  Neo is pretty funny.

    Just for ducks I followed the first link in this post and then followed a link in that story because I was intrigued by the claim the Newt Gingrich had packed 4 (count ‘em) falsehoods into one 13 word sentence.
    For once, one of Exra Klein’s claims was absolutely true.
    The amazing thing is that, even counting the 4 falsehoods, the meaning of what Newt says is pretty much the truth.  Sort of like Sarah Palin’s death panel statement.  Democrats proclaimed that her statement was lies.  Yes, they won’t be called “death panels”;  and their intent won’t be to cause deaths; and they won’t be panels, exactly; but…

  • I think this is a great thing. In the future it will be a lot easier for conservatives to run against “Big Labor” and “Government Bureaucrats” than the generic Democratic opponent.  The Democrats still have positive name recognition with a lot of folks, the former two groups do not.

  • Is this the beginning of the “Italianization” of politics where there are multiple parties to divide up the electorate till your party is the majority ?  Who knows.
    I really don’t see success for the Tea Partiers as a political party, at least for now.  It is important for the TPers to start looking in the primaries .. waiting till the general election to act limits their choices to the lesser of two evils.  I suggest the TPers put up Democratic and Republican primary candidates.  If you can’t beat them, co-opt them.