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Hillary Clinton and patriotism

I swear I think politicians are like geese – they wake up in a new world everyday and are both irony impaired and have no concept of hypocrisy.

Remember Senator Clinton in 2007?

[Mrs.] Clinton, D-N.Y., a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, has since May requested a briefing from Pentagon officials as to whether they have undertaken any serious planning for a future withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq.

On Thursday she received a response from the Pentagon that she told ABC News was “outrageous and offensive.”

The letter from Undersecretary of Defense for Policy Eric Edelman did not mince words. “Premature and public discussion of the withdrawal of U.S. forces from Iraq reinforces enemy propaganda that the United States will abandon its allies,” he wrote.

“I deeply resent the administration’s continuing effort to impugn the patriotism of those of us who are asking hard questions,” Clinton told ABC News.

The other day, at a press conference in Jamaica, it was she who was being asked the hard questions.  Her response?

QUESTION: [...] We’ve entered a situation in Libya that looks increasingly quagmire-like. And it’s starting to create a political headache for the Administration with Republican leaders arguing that the actions were inappropriate in the sense that they circumvented congressional approval for them. What is the – your vision for the endgame, a medium-term plan for U.S. involvement in Libya? And what do you make of House Speaker Boehner’s remarks?

SECRETARY CLINTON: [...] I have to take issue with your underlying premise. I think that there is very clear progress being made in the organization and the operational ability of the opposition, the Transitional National Council, the military efforts on the ground. I don’t think there’s any doubt in anyone’s mind that Qadhafi and the people around him have their backs against the wall. The kind of support that we saw forthcoming for the Libyan opposition at the recent Libyan Contact Group meeting in Abu Dhabi was very heartening. Money is flowing, other support is available.

So I know we live in a hyper-information-centric world right now, and March seems like it’s a decade ago, but by my calendar, it’s only months. And in those months, we have seen an international coalition come together unprecedented between not only NATO, but Arab nations, the Arab League, and the United Nations. This is something that I don’t think anyone could have predicted, but it is a very strong signal as to what the world expects to have happen, and I say with all respect that the Congress is certainly free to raise any questions or objections, and I’m sure I will hear that tomorrow when I testify.

But the bottom line is, whose side are you on? Are you on Qadhafi’s side or are you on the side of the aspirations of the Libyan people and the international coalition that has been created to support them? For the Obama Administration, the answer to that question is very easy.

The irony?  She’s questioning those who oppose her point of view’s patriotism.  The hypocrisy?  She’s essentially saying “you’re either with us, or against us” – something she roundly condemned in her previous life.

Oh, and of course as she rejects underlying premises, let me do my fair share.  I reject the premise that says if you oppose the illegal war in Libya it is because you are “pro-Qadhafi”.  But of course any thinking person should know it’s a false premise to begin with.

~McQ

Twitter: @McQandO

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8 Responses to Hillary Clinton and patriotism

  • The Clinton’s, both B.J. and Mrs., are just not in that retrospective thing.   The two dim wits are too owed by their smug sense of self-importance to remember what they said five minutes ago, much less four years ago.

    Further, the Clinton’s like illegal wars.  Remember B.J. waged war on Yugosliavia for no apparent reason, justification or authorization.

  • But the bottom line is, whose side are you on? Are you on Qadhafi’s side or are you on the side of the aspirations of the Libyan people and the international coalition that has been created to support them?”
    Not only is she irony challenged, she has no idea who’s side we’re on, and barely a clue about what our true objectives are.  We don’t even know who these rebels are, who they are lead by, and what they represent and what they’ll replace the Q-daffy government with.  There’s no Lech Walesa over there, no George Washington, no Mahatma Gandhi, and if there IS they sure are keeping a lid on it in the press.
     
    It’s more liberal progressive moon pony hopey changey gee whiz crap.  The same kind of projection that made Obama President.  The rebels will be whatever we want them to be because they’re NOT Q-Daffy, so we have to help them and democracy will magically spring forth.
     
    They could be working for Phol Pot’s Libyan apprentice for all they know, and won’t that look fine 8 years from now when some whackjob starts taking over Tunisia or Algeria out of Libya and they point out the US government helped give the nutjob control of Lybia<sic> back in 2011.
     

  • I know you gentlemen won’t tolerate the many crude (but accurate)  4 and 5 letter words that I’d need to properly describe her for this, so I’ll merely say she’s a poor excuse for a human being, and the foulest of hypocrites given her behavior over Iraq

    • I am so with you on that.  After her screaming about “we have the RIGHT to disagree” a few years ago, ANY such comments from her just about rise to the level of fighting words.

      “Madame Secretary, you’d better thank the Lord that He made you (more or less) a woman, because if you were a man, I would slap your face for those words and make you resent it.”

      Anyway, I don’t know why she’s asking who’s side anybody is on.  We’re not at war, after all.

      /sarc

      • I’m sick and tired of people who say that  if you debate and disagree with this
        administration, somehow you’re not patriotic. We need to stand up and say
        we’re Americans, and we have the right to debate and disagree with any administration.
        – Hillary Clinton  April 28, 2003

  • Meanwhile back at Rainbow Unicorn ranch, the Moon Ponies plan the flowers and hugs garden they’ll build in Tripoli once the Libyan civilians are fully protected.

  • Look who’s calling the kettle black. Is that the same Hillary who demanded during the 90’s that Marine guards at political functions wear suits and ties?

  • Hmm.  It seems some patriotism is more equal than others.  Funny how that always happens in one particular ideological direction…..