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Well, this is sure to help: Turkey calls Israel a “terrorist state”

I know, like me, you’ve been watching with some wonder as Israel gets called everything but a child of God for defending itself from hundreds of rockets being fired into its country and then having the unmitigated temerity to strike back. Now we have a member of NATO upping the tensions just a bit more:

Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan described Israel on Monday as a “terrorist state” in carrying out its bombardment of Gaza, underlining hostility for Ankara’s former ally since relations between them collapsed in 2010.

His comments came after nearly a week of Palestinian rocket attacks on Israel and Israeli air strikes on the Gaza Strip. An Israeli missile killed at least 11 Palestinian civilians including four children in Gaza on Sunday.

“Those who associate Islam with terrorism close their eyes in the face of mass killing of Muslims, turn their heads from the massacre of children in Gaza,” Erdogan told a conference of the Eurasian Islamic Council in Istanbul.

I’d go through the litany of the whys and wherefores that detail why there are “civilian” casualties when Israel strikes back (hint: because that’s part of the plan when Hamas does these sorts of things as a means of swaying the ignorant and those who tend buy into the “poor, wronged victims” they love to portray themselves as), but you know them as well as I do.

We’ve talked about Turkey’s inexorable slide toward radical Islam for quite some time, so in reality, this doesn’t come as much of a surprise.  Turkey, which once looked west has turned its view to the east and is eyeing regional power.  Turkey knows that there’s one requirement to admission to power in that region, and that’s embracing and touting Islam.  In fact, it is about embracing a radical form of Islam that refuses to recognize Israel or it’s right to exist.  This is just another shot among many that Turkey has taken.  The NATO reference just reminds us of the possible difficulties their membership could pose in a situation like this.

And speaking of the present situation, as soon as Israel strikes back we begin to hear the false arguments about “proportionality” begin to surface.  No one mentions that 750 to 1,000 unanswered rockets and mortars have flown disproportionally into Israel, it’s always about those 100 air strikes the Israelis put into Gaza that are condemned as violating this new law of proportionality.  Yes, proportionality is only a concern when Israel acts, not when the terrorists attack.

The real reason that it comes up at all is because Hamas surrounds its launchers with civilians and are lousy shots and Israel isn’t.

It’s just not fair.

~McQ

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26 Responses to Well, this is sure to help: Turkey calls Israel a “terrorist state”

  • SmartPower(tm)….
    whoooo-hoooo.  “Watch and learn”.

  • I note with interest that Terrorist Nation Turkey attacked Syria several weeks back after Syrian artillery shells accidentally landed in Turkey.
     
    http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/03/world/europe/turkey-syria-tension/index.html
     

    • It would probably be best if we forget this, and other inconvenient bits of unfortunate history, like, the death of 11-14 million civilians in Germany over 6 million of whom were no doubt ‘Jewish Terrorists’.

  • Isn’t it interesting that all of these nations in the middle east condemn Isreal for their treatment of the Palestinians? If they are so concerned for the plight of the Palestinians, why has no sympathetic country in the region offered them shelter? Surely, they must be able to contribute to some other country’s economy, away from the brutality of the self defending Isrealis? The truth is, unless they can be used as a whipping stick against Isreal, the lamenting nations in that region want nothing to do with the Palestinians either. Stinks to be them – stuck between hypocrites and the Isrealis, huh?

  • I’m sick of this. The smug little sh*tbirds who natter on about “proportionality” are so full of it. If they were living somewhere and even 1 rocket from a foreign hostile group landed somewhere in their neighborhood and threatened their precious little child (or the local Whole Foods, same level of emotional attachment for them really) you can better believe that they’d demand the govt. move heaven and earth to get that threat removed.
    Proportionality is for chumps.
     

    • “Proportionality” in FACT would mean that Israel should launch big, dumb unguided munitions at Hamas population concentrations…willy-nilly.  Instead they only use VERY expensive precision weapons and limit their target selection very carefully.
      It is difficult to comprehend the stupid of the Collective, worldwide.
      CNN shows that only 40% of Deemocrats support Israel in this action, while close to 60% of Americans in general do.  Happy now, Collectivist Jews?

      • Well, yes, but the Israeli weapons actually hit things, frequently what they were aimed at.   Then again, they WERE aimed.
         
        The collective would be much happier if the Israeli casualties were many times higher.    Would now be a good time to say the word RAAAAAACIIIIIISSSSSSSTTTTTTTTTTTSSSSSSSSS.

  • If Israel would not impede Gaza’s economic growth and free movement, and agree with a two state solution—and act on it—then maybe they would be more popular in the middle-east.  Their only real friend in the world is the religion oriented US.

    • Tad is not a moron.
      Tad is not a moron.
      Tad is not a moron.
      Tad is not a moron.
       

      • That may well be, but he is an idiot.
         
        What ‘proportion’ is correct? 10 to 1? 2 to 1? It can’t be an eye for an eye…..That would be all religious and stuff. Bad enough we have Christians with that icky New Testament. Gaia forbid we should go all Old Testament.

    • Israel <em>did</em> agree to a two-state solution…in 1948, remember?  The Arab bruthas said, “You guys get outta the way until we push the Jewish dogs into the sea!”  Didn’t work out that well for the Banu Nabi, did it?

    • Gaza’s problems stem first, last and only from Gaza. The Palis have ALWAYS been their own worst enemy.
       

    • Only a truly stupid stupid stupid person could possibly believe that after all of the broken promises that the Palestinians actually want or would ever accept peace with Israel.
       
      How do you wake up every morning with a total absolute rejection of reality?

      • He has a picture of Obama next to his bed.
        It’s right next to the note that reminds him to put his clothes on before he goes outside.

    • Tacdf, you really need to study history. The Palis are in this mess precisely due to their own actions. Israel has given up territory only to see it turned into a rocket launch platform. If the Palis concentrated on, oh, I don’t know, actually BUILDING a society and businesses instead of doing nothing but launching rockets at Israel I might have a little bit of sympathy for them. All they have is their hate for the Jews and a continued desire to kill all the Jews. The Palis play the Western media for useful idiots while those of us who know better point out the salient facts of the causes of the problems in the Levant. I’ll give you a hint – it isn’t Israel.Let the Israeli’s loose, let them show the world what a REAL indiscriminate bombing campaign would look like, and go from there. And BTW, to the poster who noted the Turkish response to Syrian artillery – nice catch! 

    • Two-state solution……   :( …… right.  And the Israeli portion of the two-states would reside about 15 miles WEST of Haifa harbor, right?
      Maybe a little education is in order, not that it will help in your case because you’re willfully ignorant.
       
      Here’s a good one….
      ” The prophet, prayer and peace be upon him, said: The time will not come until Muslims will fight the Jews (and kill them); until the Jews hide behind rocks and trees, which will cry: O Muslim! there is a Jew hiding behind me, come on and kill him! This will not apply to the Gharqad, which is a Jewish tree (cited by Bukhari and Muslim).”
       
      Another gem of a passage –
      Article Thirteen: Peaceful Solutions, [Peace] Initiatives and International Conferences [Peace] initiatives, the so-called peaceful solutions, and the international conferences to resolve the Palestinian problem, are all contrary to the beliefs of the Islamic Resistance Movement. For renouncing any part of Palestine means renouncing part of the religion; the nationalism of the Islamic Resistance Movement is part of its faith, the movement educates its members to adhere to its principles and to raise the banner of Allah over their homeland as they fight their Jihad:
       
      High level summary of their goals –
      Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it.” (The Martyr, Imam Hassan al-Banna, of blessed memory).
      “The Islamic Resistance Movement believes that the land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf consecrated for future Muslim generations until Judgement Day. It, or any part of it, should not be squandered: it, or any part of it, should not be given up. ”
      “There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors.”
      “After Palestine, the Zionists aspire to expand from the Nile to the Euphrates. When they will have digested the region they overtook, they will aspire to further expansion, and so on. Their plan is embodied in the “Protocols of the Elders of Zion”, and their present conduct is the best proof of what we are saying.”
       
      There, go and read it all, you ignorant American twit.  Invite your friends over and get your hate on for the Jews.
      Hamas, the legal government of Gaza doen’t want PEACE with Jews in the world, or a TWO STATE SOLUTION.
      http://www.thejerusalemfund.org/www.thejerusalemfund.org/carryover/documents/charter.html
      You and your liberal friends should HAVE such peaceful neighbors as HAMAS, I wish their like upon you and your children.

    • “then maybe they would be more popular in the middle-east”
       
      Jews have never been popular in the middle east, even before Israel existed.  Given the behavior of the middle east over the decades, if not centuries, I think that it can accurately be said that the only popular Jew in the middle east is a dead Jew.

  • The truth of the matter is that not Turkey, not Syria, Egypt, Lebanon, nor any other Islamic country in the region gives a tinker’s damn about the Palestinians, beyond their use as a whipping stick to be used against Israel or the US. If they cared even a fraction (proportionally) of their supposed “outrage”, there would be homes for the “refugees” throughout the region. They don’t want the Palestinians anywhere else in the region except right where they are – between the hypocrites and the Israelis.

  • Also around 60 Hamas rockets have fallen in Gaza, causing civilian deaths. The child cradled by the Egyptian big wig was actually killed by a Hamas rocket falling short.

    • This actually works better, it causes about the same amount of damage on average to Israel, and the damage that would have ultimately been done to Gaza as a result of accurate Israeli counter battery fire is reduced.

    •  Sounds about right from the group that can’t shoot straight…. Oh, right, these are the same guys that challenge fully and properly armed Israeli soldiers with…. wait for it… ROCKS!
        More to the point though, you have to consider seriously the intelligence of anyone who gets talked into running down the street into a hail of bullets (lethal or non), carrying a handful of rocks and a mind full of space.
        On the other hand, I’m glad they never studied the mujah hadin and their tactics.

  • It takes a specially cultivated blend of hatred and stupidity to continually pick a fight with someone who could completely annihilate you before lunch on a bad day.  I think Israel should tell the twats in the ‘international community’ to stuff it and give the palis a taste of what they can do if they get cornered.  Thousands killed? Big deal if Israel does it, big yawn when Assad does it.  Of course, the standards are higher for civilized life forms.

  • “Those who associate Islam with terrorism close their eyes in the face of mass killing of Muslims, turn their heads from the massacre of children in Gaza,” Erdogan told a conference of the Eurasian Islamic Council in Istanbul.
    I’m sure that the Armenians have something to say to him, as do the Kurds.  And the HAMAS murder of Gazan children goes unremarked.