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Assault gun ban: Not that science and facts will stop the left from pushing for it

Science and facts dont stand a chance against myth and ideology:

Justice Department researchers have concluded that an assault weapons ban is “unlikely to have an effect on gun violence,” but President Obama has not accepted their report as his administration’s official position.

“Since assault weapons are not a major contributor to US gun homicide and the existing stock of guns is large, an assault weapon ban is unlikely to have an impact on gun violence,” the DOJ’s National Institute for Justice explains in a January 4 report obtained by the National Rifle Association. “If coupled with a gun buyback and no exemptions then it could be effective.” That idea is also undermined by the acknowledgement that “a complete elimination of assault weapons would not have a large impact on gun homicides.”

The research in that report didn’t stop Obama denouncing “weapons of war” during his State of the Union speech on February 12.

We’ve pointed out any number of times that deaths by rifle, any sort of rifle, are less than 500 a year.  Less that blunt objects – clubs, baseball bats, etc.

But that’s not going to stop these people.  Facts are inconvenient truths, to borrow from the biggest myth maker of all – Al Gore.

There’s a reason for the desire for this ban.  It’s a foot in the door.  And, once they declare it’s not enough, the precedent is already set.  As I mentioned on the podcast, the left is into incrementalism.    They will incrementally sneak up on every freedom we have left.  And, if they have their way, take them away.  In the name of “safety” and “security”.  And you know what Ben Franklin said about that.


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31 Responses to Assault gun ban: Not that science and facts will stop the left from pushing for it

  • AND they lie.  That has to be understood at the outset.  THEY LIE.
    Obama, as recently as a few days ago, said he doesn’t want to take handguns from people.  That is a lie.  In concert with all the other lies.  Look at the laws proposed by Collectivists in Missouri, Minnesota, and Colorado for examples of what it is they intend.
    The Collective wants you and I disarmed, quiescent, and docile.

    • Washington state man, a weed in charge of crafting the bills on someone else’s behalf included language that said the police would come by once a year and inspect the homes of those owning ‘assault’ weapons.  Even the three sponsor’s admitted they thought that was too far and didn’t know how that language got in the bill (I suggest, it got in there the same way fire arms “just go off”).
      Christ, they lie to EACH OTHER!

    • “I don’t need no stinking” DOJ report to know this to be true … I have Sheriff Joe
      Nothing we’re going to do is going to fundamentally alter or eliminate the possibility of another mass shooting or guarantee that we will bring gun deaths down to a thousand a year from what we’re at now,” Biden told reporters after meeting with Senate Democrats in the Capitol.

    • As attitude towards ‘Change’ looks more like blowback, I believe there is a growing fear among the National Socialist Democrat Party that the ‘thin veneer of civilization’ may be a whole lot thinner than they like and they are getting squirrelly.

  • Wouldn’t want them to allow us to focus on other things – ways to encourage American production of oil ( Or, barring that, at least get the hell out of the way of American production of oil) Or perhaps unemployment?   Business killing regulation?   Higher taxes for everyone?
    Meh, the rifle diversion is an attention grabber, and that’s the plan, if they accomplish some of their goals in the process, you know, convince us that simple registration isn’t really THAT bad, then so much the better.
    What they don’t see is overload building.   I wonder, is it?

    • Agreed.  I’m new to the shooting sports, and was over at Gander shopping for (the nonexistent) 22LR ammo.  Was surprised to see who some fellow shoppers were – and after a brief conversation, their concerns.  Folks way smarter than me are seriously arming themselves.

      • Yeah, similar conversation in a Bass Proshop the other day.   I wasn’t even interested in buying ammo at that point, though some more .308 wouldn’t offend me.   It looked like there might have been a few more boxes on shelves (damn FEW).  I mumbled that the supply didn’t look better and one of the other guys replied it looked worse.     Not quite at the level of the movies where the stragglers have found an abandoned gun shop with a couple of boxes of 12 gauge double ought under a turned over shelf….but still.
        They seriously better pay attention to how much they’ve frightened an armed and weapon experienced population.   Hard to tell people that there’s nothing unusual going on when their own eyes see it every time they do what should be a casual Saturday run to the sporting goods store for a range practice on Sunday.

        • Talking with an acquaintance who works at Gander, he was offered over $10k by a ‘customer’ who wanted to buy nearly the entire load of ammo we was getting ready to stock on the shelves.  He was declined – he’d just sell it a significant markup.  Supply and demand y’know.

          • Well, I’d be lying if I said I hadn’t thought of selling mine, and the evil black rifle, at a profit.    Course that would leave me with none, and that could prove to be….unwise.
            Then again, I could become a Democrat, and getting the fast money today, and letting tomorrow worry about tomorrow would be the way to go!

      • … but DHS is stocking up with 2 billion rounds.  For training purposes, they say.
        Based on peak usage of ammo during the Iraq War, DHS has enough for a 24 year “Iraq”-style war.

        • They’re going to practice, a lot, and then the EPA will declare the ranges SuperFund sites because of the residual lead content in the soil.
          You know, you could probably build walls with that amount of lead and copper, to say nothing of the brass.  Think of the novelty lamps and tables they can make from melting the spent brass down!
          JOBS! DUDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Deemocrat Collectivists want to impose an insurance requirement on anybody who owns a typewriter, word-processor, or pencil.
    Oh. Wait…

    • Of course! The pen is mightier than the sword, so it must also be more dangerous, and thus more liable to reasonable and common-sense regulation.

  • Where this are moving is at the state level. NY passed their ban, CO is following along, as are others.

    CA has some interesting stuff ont he table, including confiscation of registered “assault rifles”. I think WA was going to have home inspections. They are confirming all those old John Bircher bumper stickers.

  • I have been trying to find the entire report – does anybody have a link?

  • The two reasons to go after Assault weapons is because they are the easiest target to sell to the middle. 

    First there is the ‘evil essense’ of the guns the makes people commit violence.  And assault weapons with their militaristic adornments and modifications exude the strongest influence on people. 

    Second they are a minority of guns (as you initially define them [to be redifined later]).  So you offend the smallest group. 

    The incrementalist approach wants to chip away at the ‘low hanging fruit’ because with each chip, the remaining majority of gun owners that didn’t get their guns taken from them start become a minority in the population.  And if they can discourage ownership through bans, taxes, regulation and just get gun ownership down low enough, the rest of the population won’t care or can be worn down so they can take the right away completely.  

    Interesting, though, is this approach goes after rifles first.  Which is where the hunting contingient lives and breathes.  Now if I was an evil wannabe dictator, which weapons would I take first…

    • The ones that can damage my enforcers most at the longest range.

      • The key reason to go after guns is to attack self reliance and individual virtue. They want dependent subjects, not armed and independent citizens. Semiautomatic rifles convey a lot of power and independence upon citizens, moreso then other long arms.

        They are attacking these weapons because they are easier to attack and because these guns represent what they want to destroy most.

  • The worst massacre by a single gunman was ..(the envelope, please)…  Seung-Hui Cho, at Va. Tech., with two legally acquired PISTOLS in 2007.

    • Scandinavia doesn’t count?   They should be qualified to enter the running!
      and then we need to specify the event – you know, individual performer division, versus official government teams division.

  • “versus official government teams division.”
    Is that the international or domestic class?