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So is the media finally being forced to pay attention to this administration’s scandals?

I found this to be very interesting.  From ABC News (email):


ABC’s JEFF ZELENY: The troubles are mounting for the White House – Benghazi, IRS, AP phone records – leading one administration official to ask yesterday: “Is it really still only Monday?” It’s safe to say all three topics are moving into scandal territory, but it’s a mistake to view them together. Of all of the controversies, the IRS seems to be the most troubling because it further erodes trust in government and institutions – from a point that is already distressingly low. At least three Congressional committees are digging in. Even though the president said he didn’t know about the IRS matter until the news broke last week, it happened on his watch. Democrats could have a hard time winning this one. It bolsters the case for Republicans, just in time for the midterm campaign to begin.

ABC’s RICK KLEIN: It comes fast and intense in a second term. And the confluence of events – Benghazi talking points, the IRS scandal, sweeping subpoenas of Associated Press records – leave plenty of reasons to mistrust the government President Obama is leading. Knowing that Congress can’t walk and chew gum very well – it can’t walk all that well without the gum, and this flavor is particularly tasty to the president’s opponents – this is a recipe for stalling and worse for just about anything the White House wants to do. The president’s powers of public persuasion, meanwhile, could ebb in the whiff of scandals. If there’s a White House strategy to turn this all around, we’re not seeing signs of it, not yet.

ABC’s DEVIN DWYER: The talking points coming out of the State Department on Monday were astonishing for their attempted revisionism. Spokeswoman Jen Psaki repeated four times in four minutes that the Obama administration’s early public characterization of the 2012 Benghazi terror attack was dictated by the CIA. “These were CIA points. They were CIA edited. They were CIA finalized,” she said. Nevermind that trove of emails, obtained by ABC News, that shows it was in fact the State Department that sought to edit out the CIA’s references to al Qaeda and to security warnings in Benghazi prior to the attack. “These started and ended as CIA talking points,” Psaki said. Technically, maybe so. But it would be disingenuous to ignore or deny the apparent influence of State during the talking-point sausage-making that occurred in between.

ABC’s SHUSHANNAH WALSHE: The Tea Party groups who say they were unfairly targeted by the IRS showed ABC News questionnaires and documents received from the Internal Revenue Service. They had to answer questions about their donors, views on issues, and one member said she was even asked to show her personal Facebook account, all they say, because of their political views. The agency apologized last week, but these groups don’t feel like they were directly apologized to. All want an investigation, but for Jennifer Stefano who was trying to set up a group called The Loyal Opposition, but finally gave up, she compares this scandal to Watergate: “It became very frightening, the IRS has the power to target the political opposition of a sitting president.”

It’s amazing it has taken these events and this long for these people to actually do their jobs.  And there’s no guarantee they will.  But it can’t be denied any longer — it is on “the” radar screen.  Benghazi, IRS, AP, you name it.  Even the sycophants credulity is being tested.

Maybe it took this administration’s messing with AP to finally make them figure out that for the most part they’ve simply been the media arm of the administration and the administration feels some “ownership” rights.  Thus it was checking on them … or something.

It’ll be interesting to watch this all unfold — or disappear.


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  • You know this are bad when …
    WASHINGTON — The top Democrat on the House Oversight panel said Monday that the authors of an independent investigation into the deadly assault in Benghazi, Libya, should answer questions about their work at a congressional hearing, not in a private deposition that the Republicans want.

  • I vote disappear, kinda like the Mother’s Day shooter in New Orleans.
    Thank God for Angelina Jolie and her breasts, otherwise we’d have to hear about silly pet tricks.
    Hey, how did that war with North Korea end up working out?

  • I’ll go with the following:  they’ll report on it for now.  Slowly stop covering it during the summer when political news doesn’t get much attention.  Then forget it ever happened.

  • The GOP is trying to manufacture a scandal, but it won’t work.  Already it’s coming out that the “leaks” were manufactured:
    Sad that the GOP wants to try to just find things they can turn into scandals – rather than doing the hard work of compromising and solving problems.  Though with the budget deficit declining more quickly than expected, the economy rebounding, I guess their not doing as much harm as I feared they would.  But given how the GOP and tea party tends to be popular only in the demographic of aging white males, I think the GOP will need to change or find itself without a true base.  Scandal mongering gives them an excuse to ignore how out of step they are especially with the under 35 crowd!

    • That’s the best you’ve got?  The takeaway quote from the link you cite:

      “ABC News notes in its report that it was provided summaries of White House and State Department emails, not the emails themselves.”

      And who wrote those ‘summaries’?  I’m old enough to recall Nixon on national TV telling us that everything there was to know about Watergate was in those binders behind him.
      Really now…


      • They release the actual e-mails, instead of those summaries, and … Erb gets a Middle Eastern mudslide.

      • Erb made the common mistake.  He bought in.
        Try thinking for yourself.   Don’t buy into the narrative.
        Any “adventure” that gets drug out this long has a sordid side.

        • When there is evidence of scandalous or bizarre behavior on the part of a political figure, and no reasonable explanation is revealed within 24 to 48 hours, then the truth is probably as bad as everyone suspects.
          Nobody withholds exculpatory information. Nobody who’s been accused of something wrong waits for “just the right moment” to unveil information that proves the charge baseless. Political figures never choose to deliberately let themselves twist in the wind. It’s not the instinctive psychological reaction to being falsely accused, it’s not what any public communications professional would recommend, and to use one of our president’s favorite justifications, it’s just common sense.
          You and I both know, in our guts, and based upon everything we’ve seen in Washington since we started our careers, that there’s no innocent explanation for the Obama administration’s actions before, during, and after the Benghazi attacks.
          —Jim Geraghty via Ed Driscoll

    • I’m speaking for myself, and not in any way for any of the commenters here, much less the QandO crew:
      I’m tired of this sh*t.

      • shark, watch and ask, “Who’s outta touch here…???”

        • I really can’t stomach Jon Stewart, eff him also.  But what I did see gives hint to what I believe they consider to be the REAL scandal: they gave Conservatives an issue with some traction.

          • Stewart is a Democrat shill nearly all the time and will peddle talking points, cherry picking that which suits his message and ignoring obvious facts and arguments which refute the Democrat interpretation.  But he does occasionally call Democrats on their bullspit.  He has flashes of being a brilliant comedian.  Maher, for example, needs a good 30 IQ points to catch up to Stewart, not to mention a sense of humor which goes beyond the banal “this bad thing happened … just like Republicans” schtick, or an impromptu response which rises above the level of simply sneering at opposing viewpoints, in total disregard of facts.  The good part about Maher being dumb and humorless is that he will sometimes get guests who tear him apart.  Even worse for him is when he goes on a real show and is completely spanked by the likes of George Will.
            I can sometimes watch Stewart, but Colbert is unwatchable.  The every-day-is-opposite day got old in the first grade for me.

        • “I wouldn’t be surprised if President Obama learned Osama bin Laden had been killed when he saw himself announce it on television.” — Jon Stewart

          • Ya know, think about that photo op during the Bin Laden operation – it sorta explains why Barry is sitting in the corner in shirt sleeves while the adults are gathered around the conference table.
            He DID look like the mail cart intern you drag into the conference room during a corporate meeting to ‘keep everybody in the loop’ about what is going on with some big news in a company, no?

    • Well.  That was quick.  You posted the Moonbattery’s talking points in record time.
      Again, without the least thought or reflection on self-parody.

      So the White House released just one in a chain of emails and will not release the full chain itself, which it then uses through a selective leak to cast doubt on what ABC News always said was a summary (but which may still be an accurate summary).  Nice work.
      The motives behind the edits also can be deduced from the edits themselves, which show that information damaging to the Obama campaign narrative was removed.  That’s really all we need to know, and it supports the ABC News sources account.
      Even David Petraeus termed the final version useless.

      Were there 12 redactions of politically “inconvenient” information?  More?  Less?  None?
      Was the “film review with mortars and RPGs” story bullshit from the get-go?  Well, yeah.  Complete.  Utter.  Lies.
      DID the Obami…including Old Walleye Clinton…launch an assault on the 1st Amendment in support of their lies?  Yeppers.
      DID your Collectivist fellow-travelers in the academe and kommentariate JOIN in attacking the 1st Amendment?  Oh, yeah!

      And are you a total suck-up to Pres. Side Show?  I think you have admitted your guilt.

      • And are you a total suck-up to Pres. Side Show?

        >>>> More like a collaborator.

        • Collaboration implies a connection, an amount of influence, rather than servile behavior for which he receives no recognition nor power.  It reminds me of Ben Kingsley’s character Basil Pascali, in Pascali’s Island

      • You posted the Moonbattery’s talking points in record time.

        The speed with which Scott rushes to his computer to “spin” a story is typically in direct correlation with the weakness of the Democrat talking points.  I guess he thinks that being first in a blog comment section somehow is akin to being the first person interviewed by the news.  It isn’t, because everything he writes can be taken apart and refuted with detailed arguments, links, and citations.
        If these scandals get legs, how long before he starts showing cracks in his veneer, getting more and more desperate, more ridiculous?
        More comments, Scott, if you please.  You’re the canary in the mine.

        • …getting more and more desperate, more ridiculous?

          OK.  Let’s stick to the realm of the possible.

        • Dishonest Elliot again.  I’m pointing out what Gates said, and how the GOP is trying (and failing) to construct a scandal because they’d rather do that than the actual hard work of governing – compromising, getting work done.  The founders had vastly different opinions and created a system where compromise is necessary to get work done.  It is in essence pragmatic, knowing there is no “right” answer, but many different perspectives that have to be taken into account.  People unable to think critically latch on to ideologies – ideologies are always vast oversimplifications of reality — and interpret the world through those and become unable to compromise, believing that they are holding principle.  It’s a kind of mental handicap.
          But go on, fantasize that there are some vast scandal.  I recall people thinking some guy named David Foster committed suicide or things like that.  Then they tried to impeach Clinton and instead made him the most popular exiting President in a long time.  But hey, if it gives you an emotional rush, fantasize about scandals!   That’s easier than actually thinking.

          • Gates comments only address the logistical aspects of bringing military aid during Sep 11-12, 2012.  Nothing else.  Gates does not address the excuse of the video sparking protests, how that was a lie repeated for weeks, etc..  You’re focusing on part 1 of a 20 part matter, trying to make hay of one man’s opinion, and ignoring parts 2-20.
            The words “fantasize” and “vast scandal” are your words, your own “spin” to attempt to try to make the discussion about critics, not about the facts of how Obama, Biden, Clinton, Rice, et al. lied about the Sep 11-12, 2012 terrorist attack being caused by a YouTube video.
            All of the rest of your rant is boilerplate distraction.  Your mind is a mess right now.

    • Seriously?    why am I asking, course you’re serious.
      Wow, totally useless in so many aspects of your life eh?  Must kinda be a bummer.  You go right ahead and compensate, that’s how you got where you are.

    • You ARE aware that the IRS problem is going to turn out to be much bigger than Benghazi, right?   And maybe the AP thing ( but probably not, that would imply the AP is not in fact a battered wife that will return to her abuser asking for forgiveness for hurting her abuser’s fists with her face, but that’s how it will play out…)
      Even the low information voters understand IRS thuggery, even if they can’t follow the loaves of bread on the Benghazi trail.

      • “Those from the IRS that have spoken about this obviously have much greater insight into what took place than we do. We have not seen the report. We have not independently collected information about what transpired. We need the independent inspector general’s report to be released before we can make judgments. One person’s view of what actions were taken or what that individual did is not enough for us to say something concretely happened that was innapropriate,” said Carney.

        I guess we are to believe that all apologies are vacuous.

        • “Baghdad Jay” is on his way out.
          A hiss and a by-word, even among his own.  Even Gibbs commented on the strangely passive voice of Pres. Side Show’s statement on the IRS thuggery.
          And hte Sgt. Schultz president is getting uncredible very, very quickly.

          • We really have to begin to ask if we need a President that always knows nothing.  At some point, we are going to have to face the likelihood that he knows nothing because he does nothing.
            I watched the end last night of “Clear and Present Danger” when Jack Ryan goes in and scolds the President and thought that this is what Obama needs.
            But who would scold the “Chicago Jesus,” the “Magic Negro,” the “smartest man in the room” ?

          • President Schultz?   I love it!
            “I know nothing!  I see nothing!”
            The entertaining part is Herb sees nothing wrong in a President who, if you accept his lies about him not knowing about ANY of this, is completely incompetent as a leader by his own admission.
            How the hell can anyone be okay with that answer from a President?
            But he’s okay with the idea that, just by sheer coincidence, these activities being undertaken by low level functionaries, which ALWAYS seem to benefit Big Ears in some way, are just happening by chance and
            that Obama is always ‘shocked!  shocked! to find that (whatever) is going on in here”.
            Damn I’m trying to imagine having a job where I could say “I didn’t know” about things I’m responsible for as often as Obama does, and still collect a pay check.

    • The GOP is trying to manufacture a scandal, but it won’t work. It’s simply impossible for this administration, headed by Obama of the christlike visage, to do anything scandalous.

      Already it’s coming out that the “leaks” were manufactured. Yep, those dastardly Republicans have such amazing mind-control powers that they can convince Democrats to leak things that are totally untrue. And if the Republicans facilitated the people doing the leaking, well, that’s clear and irrefutable evidence that nothing in the leaks could possible be true or relevant. I decree it. Nothing to see here, move along.

      So you dense righties need to shut up about four dead people, or changed talking points. And after all, who really cares about that guy put in jail for the video, if it was done for the greater good.

      Thank goodness you guys have a totally non-ideological expert like me to come here and explain why there is no scandal, none at all. Yes, I’m totally non-ideological, and it’s just a coincidence that I can’t find a single thing wrong with the Obama administration.

      So shut up about Benghazi, the IRS harassing tea party groups (as if those extremists deserved any right to participate in politics!), the AP phone records, Holder dismissing the Black Panthers with clubs, all the green companies that went bankrupt after getting federal loans, the stockholders and creditors who lost out during the GM bailout, having a Treasury Secretary who was a tax cheat, running guns to Mexico, dead border agents, shaking down healthcare companies to support Obamacare, having an admitted Marxist as a high administration official, the USDA handing out millions to blacks pretending to be farmers, and handing half a billion to a crony for drugs that will probably never be needed. They are all just created out of whole cloth by nasty, mean Republicans who want to hurt my children.

      Sad that the GOP wants to try to just find things they can turn into scandals – rather than doing the hard work of compromising and solving problems. It’s just awful that they can’t find a way to work with great compromisers like Obama, Pelosi, and Reid that nothing gets done. Nope, a non-ideological guy like me can see clearly that those people have good intentions, and they are perfectly willing to compromise on anything that doesn’t really matter to get to a deal.

      But given how the GOP and tea party tends to be popular only in the demographic of aging white males, I think the GOP will need to change or find itself without a true base. Yep, it’s just aging while males like the ex-military basket cases who post around here who still back the GOP and the tea party. I decree it. So shut up about how I was wrong about the 2010 elections and the influence of the tea party. SHUT UP ABOUT THAT. It was just an aberration.

      Scandal mongering gives them an excuse to ignore how out of step they are especially with the under 35 crowd! At least with my students, who all assure me constantly that they agree with me, and would never, ever support Republicans, under any circumstances. Thank goodness they are non-ideological like me.

      So remember, everyone, there are no scandals with the administration because it’s perfect and above reproach. I have to go now and probably won’t be able to respond to the usual nonsensical replies because I have to do some serious cleaning in the basement. After all that nonsense hit the news about Benghazi and the IRS, for some reason, the magenta caterpillars with Sarah Palin’s face and amble bosom began swarming down there. I had to start taking the nice blue pills again. But don’t worry – I’ll have them cleaned out soon.

      • Be sure to set a link to this gem

        David Axelrod: “When you’re POTUS theres so much you don’t know below you because the government is so vast.

        Yeah, and I’m sure if government was only half as large, it would be half-vast.

    • Come back when you can explain who a “terrorist attack” (Obama said so in the Rose Garden, just ask Candy) turned into a demonstration about a YouTube video (Susan Rice said so, so did the talking points).

    • Erb, how can you look at yourself in the mirror without puking? You are a sniveling coward who is so blinded by your idealogy that you are incapable of acknowledging any wrongdoing by this administration. You are a typical liberal, projecting your own actions and rigid idealogy onto others. You are an embarrassment to your profession and, if tarring and feathering were still an accepted form of expression, you would be a prime candidate for it.

      To all the regular commentators at QandO, my apologies for the rant, but I simply can’t take any more of this sniveling coward’s BS.

      • No, Jason, I consider you the coward, caught up in the emotion of ideology-driven blogs, unable to think critically.  I do not believe in ideology – ideology is for people who need some kind of script to believe in, since they fear being wrong.   Ideology is for weak minded people.  You seem to be weak, you argue by label (“typical liberal”), projecting (you have the rigid ideology, I certainly don’t – in fact my political hero is Republican Olympia Snowe, who is working hard to get both sides to look past ideology and compromise), and you have the cute little fantasies of violence (tar and feathering).   No, Jason, you’re describing yourself – and showing your self-loathing while doing so.

        • I do not believe in ideology…

          “We have them surrounded in their tanks”
          “They’re not even [within] 100 miles [of Baghdad]. They are not in any place. They hold no place in Iraq. This is an illusion … they are trying to sell to the others an illusion.”

          Scott, turn off the computer, turn off your TV, pack up your camping gear, go get lost for a week or two.  Ask one of your students for some pot or something.
          You are completely losing it.

          • Your response is bizarre.  Were you stoned when you wrote it?  It is meaningless.  In any event, I am going away – leading a travel course to Italy, visiting Venice, Florence and Rome.  Just read Dan Brown’s “Inferno” which got me immersed in images from Florence and Venice.  Life is a joy!

          • You’re not paying attention very well. You say something ludicrous, I cite you, then I cite Baghdad Bob to show the similarities in blatant denial of reality. I guess you’re too dumb or mentally unhinged to connect the dots. Take advantage of your travel. Ignore news about Us politics. Drink lots of wine. You need the time off, desperatwly.

          • Yeah, it’s just not as clever as you think it is Elliot.   You also don’t counter me.  I am anti-ideology, I’m a pragmatist.  I think ideology is for people who can’t think for themselves and recognize the paradoxes this world contains.  In Europe I’m a conservative – a fan of people like Angela Merkel.  I like pragmatic centrists like Olympia Snowe and Angus King.  I don’t like ideologues on the left or right.  So you suddenly going off in some weird tangent about Baghdad Bob.  Well, that’s just bizarre.    Ideological thinking is for people who can’t deal with the complexities of reality and the fact there is no clear and easy to understand “answer key” for how the world works.  Insecure people feel a need to have that kind of pseudo-certainty.

          • We’ve all seen how you are totally sucking the Collective anus here, Erp.
            Not for the first time, either.
            You proud of this…
            ThoughtCrime WILL be punished in your Collective, and you will approve.

          • I am anti-ideology….

            “They fled. The American louts fled. Indeed, concerning the fighting waged by the heroes of the Arab Socialist Baath Party yesterday, one amazing thing really is the cowardice of the American soldiers. we had not anticipated this.”
            Black is white.  Up is down.
            You’re a total joke, Scott.

    • Nice try, Erb, but ABC is standing by its story.  You remember ABC, right?  It’s that really super-conservative network dedicated to promoting Republican issues.
      Which of the following is NOT a scandal, Erb:
      1.  Administration claims Benghazi attack was about some obscure video on YouTube when it knew that was a terrorist act
      2.  DOJ launches a fishing expedition into Associated Press
      3.  IRS increases scrutiny on conservative 501(c) organizations, while giving liberal ones far less scrutiny.
      Which of those do you defend?  (I’m guessing all of them, you’re just too predictable.)

      • No, the administration quickly labeled it terrorism and said it was not about the video.  You’re arguing about the definition of “is.”  What they said in the early days when there was confusion is meaningless.  There is nothing there.   But that’s OK, distract yourselves.   This is collapsing on you despite your denials!

        • What a lying moron.

        • You’re either lying or ignorant, Erb.  The administration did NOT call it terrorism quickly.  Obama’s claim that he did got 4 Pinnochios at the Washington Post.
          Listen to that sound, Erb:  it’s your credibility sinking into the mud.  People aren’t just booing your posts, they’re booing your entire career.

          • My credibility is great in the real world.  Right wing ideologues on this blog may not think so, but their opinion of me is irrelevant.  They’re meaningless.
            They don’t matter in my world.  And it was called terrorism within a short period of time, less than two weeks.  Arguably Obama called it that right at the start, saying acts of terrorism would not deter the US.  But hey, keep arguing about what the definition of “is” is!

          • Your “credibility” is a parody, anywhere, Erp.

            And that is what we saw play out in the last two weeks, where a crude and disgusting video sparked outrage throughout the Muslim world.  Now, I have made it clear that the United States government had nothing to do with this video, and I believe its message must be rejected by all who respect our common humanity.  It is an insult not only to Muslims, but to America as well.

            That is your Pres. Side Show at the UN on Sept. 25, a full two weeks after he left a US ambassador, a support person, and two former SEALs to die while he cobbled up his coverup with Old Walleyes Clinton.
            He made you a liar.  Again.  Or rather you made yourself a liar in his service.
            Pathetic and disgusting.

          • Less than two weeks is a short period of time????  In whose overactive imagination?
            The administration knew the day of the attacks that it was terrorism, but they didn’t call it that for two weeks.  For days and days, they insisted it was some kind of protest over an obscure video on YouTube.

            You have no credibility, Erb.

          • My credibility is great in the real world.

            “Their forces committed suicide by the hundreds. … The battle is very fierce and God made us victorious. The fighting continues.”

            Right wing ideologues on this blog may not think so, but their opinion of me is irrelevant.  They’re meaningless.
            They don’t matter in my world.

            “Please, please! The Americans are relying on what I called yesterday a desperate and stupid method.”

            Keep posting these, Scott.  More!  More!

    • Erb’s true colors show through when he’s scared.

    • And at the risk of admitting I looked at your web site…are you always in the habit of creating quotes from whole cloth and attributing them to former Secretaries of Defense?
      The only place on the entire Internet that the quote, which you attribute to Robert Gates, “Please, it’s not like Obama used false intelligence to invade a country leading to the deaths of hundres of thousands.” occurs, (spelling hundres OR hundreds, BTW) is your web site.
      Well done….you should be proud.

      You are in need of some sort of mental health help I think.

      • Scott Erb is a lying sack of dog excrement.  Robert Gates never said the quote Scott Erb attributes to him.

        • How dare you downplay the utility of dog excrement!  It serves a purpose of removing waste from a canine’s body, as well as fertilizing the lawn.
          Scott has never done anything as productive or useful.

          • I’ll retract my defamation of dog excrement.
            Scott Erb is a mere tool, a useful idiot as evidenced by his ideological desire to believe a “quote” that no sane adult could believe was actually uttered in public by anyone of genuine responsibility.
            It reveals how out-of-touch he is.  He can safely be ignored.

        • Didn’t he?  I got the quote second hand so I’ll assume you’re right and apologize.  But he did defend the Obama administration and call the GOP ideas of military action “cartoonish”  He also defended Hillary Clinton.
          No one in the GOP thinks this is a really big scandal.  They just hope it’ll rough Hillary up a bit so she can’t run in 2016.

          • ANOTHER bald-faced LIE.
            The people who have opined are not “GOP” but former SpecOps people, you lying sack of shit.
            And I take their views as a great deal more valuable than a FLUCKING bureaucrat.

          • I’ll trust Gates – and the so called options have all been debunked.  You’ve got nothing Rags.  So go ahead, call a few names, throw out a few insults.  But just watch – this will end up doing more damage to the GOP than Obama, and you’ll be blaming the media as is your wont.

          • …the so called options have all been debunked.

            Put up your sources, you lying sack of shit.  Has someone “debunked” Hicks, who testified he knew of TWO stand-down orders?
            You are a complete kitten on military matters, Erp, and you embarrass yourself here…insisting on embarrassing yourself FURTHER.  Now, chase the laser-dot, Pussy.

          • Yup, totally debunked Rags.  You’re clinging to an obsolete losing ideology in a world that pushing you aside.  But hey, you can call people names.   That’s something you can be proud of.  *satisfied grin*

          • Where?  I see no support for that.
            I think you have really gone tapioca here, Erp.  A feast of feces will do that to ya’, I hear.

          • Didn’t he?  I got the quote second hand so I’ll assume you’re right and apologize.

            Oh, did you finally take something to allow reality to peek in for a moment?
            I suppose a weak half-admittance is a better sign for your long-term sanity.  I won’t even ask where you thought you got the quote second hand, because it’s not available on google.
            Oh the tangled webs you still weave, tho’ the decades you have practiced to deceive.

          • I’ll trust Gates – and the so called options have all been debunked.

            Though if Gates went on Fox and backed the whistle blowers, you’d spit on him as a Republican lackey that Obama made the mistake of keeping in place.
            Again, what Gates addressed is the logistics of Sep 11-12, 2012, in Libya and surrounding areas.  He said nothing about prior requests, about the handling in the situation room (where was Obama that night?), nor anything about the public claims, for weeks, that it was a spontaneous demonstration over a YouTube video, nor all of the other relevant details which are coming to light.
            You keep focusing on part 1, ignoring parts 2-20, as though one man’s opinion on logistics somehow makes all of the public lies go away.

            this will end up doing more damage to the GOP than Obama…

            “Faltering forces of infidels cannot just enter a country of 26 million people and lay besiege to them! They are the ones who will find themselves under siege. Therefore, in reality whatever this miserable Rumsfeld has been saying, he was talking about his own forces. Now even the American command is under siege.”
            Cuckoo!  Cuckoo!

          • You’re clinging to an obsolete losing ideology in a world that pushing you aside…. *satisfied grin*

            “They tried to bring a small number of tanks and personnel carriers in through al-Durah but they were surrounded and most of their infidels had their throats cut.”

    • They’re now being pressured to release the entire email chain, and you’re going to be exposed for the useless, talking-points spouting gullible dupe of a collaborating useless idiot you are.
      Now go back to effing yourself.

  • I think the media has been paying attention to what this Administration has been doing—it just has not been “reporting” on what the Administration has been doing.  I believe the recent revelation that the DOJ has been taping the AP’s telephone conversations has awakened the media that they are NOT EXEMPT from this Administration’s power grab.
    We can all be assured that the Administration is doing everything for the benefit of the collective.

    • They have been covering for the administration. They have covered up Fast and Furious and Obama’s lies about Bengazi (as someone else stated, ask Candy).

      The basic facts about Fast and Furious remain: a Task force consisting of DOJ, DHS and Treasury let gun smugglers buy guns. Guns that were not tracked. Guns that were allowed to cross into Mexico without notification of Mexican officials (where was DoS in all this?). Note that at least three Departments were involved (and a forth should have been involved), so this points to the highest level . . . where POTUS invoked Executive Privledge.

      Yeah, nothing to see here.

      • Then the capper is Big Ears goes to Mexico, and has the balls to blame the United States for the guns being used by criminals to kill people in Mexico.
        Well, I guess HE’D know wouldn’t he.

      • Fast and furious!  ROTFLMAO!  People who think that was a scandal are in lala land.  They are like the people who thought Hillary Clinton had David(?) Foster killed.  Tin foil conspiracy theory time.

        • Well, I can readily imagine you rolling on the floor with laughter, shit eater.
          It was only BROWN people…and one or two of our Border Patrol…the Obamabanana Republic killed, along with another example of contempt for the sovereignty of another nation.
          A laugh riot.

        • Fast and furious!  ROTFLMAO!  People who think that was a scandal are in lala land.

          Brian Terry is imaginary.  Republicans made him up.  It’s all fiction!
          “Their infidels are committing suicide by the hundreds on the gates of Baghdad. Be assured, Baghdad is safe, protected.”

  • Things we now know the conservatives/libertarians had right…

    Fast & Furious
    Obamabanana Republic oppression of opposition
    Highly SELECTIVE law enforcement
    Racial “justice”
    Failed foreign policy
    Failed DHS (i.e., targeting “patriots”, while being unable to utter “Islamist”, leading to SEVERAL successful attacks in the US)

    • Oh, and “Drill, baby, DRILL!”.
      That Sarah Palin looks more like a genius every day.

      • No, she doesn’t.
        McCain is one of the worst Republicans in office and if he had won and died, Palin would have been a monumental disaster, just of a slightly different variety than Obama.

    • You forgot Solyndra, Cash for Clunkers, and other “green” initiatives which turned out to be carpetbaggers and net environmentally detrimental dog and pony shows.

      • Payoffs, nothing but payoffs.

        • Worse than mere payoffs were the programs which were a net negative for the environment.  Like Cash for Clunkers, electric cars, and the push for high speed rail.  Anyone with a basic grasp of economics could do the math and see that each of these programs are detrimental, not helpful.  Electric cars are basically coal-powered cars, for example.

    • I stopped reading Tomazky’s article after I saw this:

      “…the establishment in the law of civil liberties, a notion that didn’t really exist per se until around that time (the ACLU was founded in 1920).”

      …which displays a profound ignorance of history.

  • They know Obamacare is going to screw everyone over and cause the economy to take a crap.
    They are throwing Obama under the bus in advance to take the tact “it was a poor implementation” and “massive government intervention is not a fundamentally flawed concept”.

  • The poor man, when he was President of the Harvard Law review he didn’t actually DO anything, other than be an articulate well groomed ‘black’ man.
    Then he was elected President of the US, on the same premises.   and now…What…you expect him to …work?   Seriously?
    You expect him to take an interest in constructively running the country or something?
    80% of success is showing up!   He shows up at the White House every DAY!
    This is a party opportunity, this is an opportunity to pay off his buddies, this is a chance to live the high life!
    You expect him to stop campaigning, to pay attention, to do some work?  To be Presidential and not petty and narcissistic?
    What few things he actually knows how to do well and you want him to stop?

  • Nixon was a control freak. Obama seems to be the opposite: He wants no control over the actions of his administration. As the president distances himself from the actions of “independent” figures within his administration, he’s creating a power vacuum in which lower officials behave as though anything goes. Certainly, a president can’t know what everybody in his administration is up to — but he can take responsibility, he can fire people and he can call a stop to foolish actions

  • CHRIS MATTHEWS: This is the worst thing you can do about government, is undermine the basic trust. That although it could be tough and tax rates could be tough on you they roughly fair; that they’re not out to screw some group. Now anybody out there in the country can say, hey, I don’t trust these guys. They were targeting us. The gun people can say it, everybody on the right can say it. The Republican party, I’m telling you, this is worth five or ten points to everybody out there who was ready to lose an election next year. And I’ll tell you, this is Mitch McConnell’s ticket to ride. He will not have a serious opponent, And you got to see Tom Corbett in Pennsylvania have a real chance to get re-elected.  Cuccinelli is loaded for bear down with this, baby, down in southern Virginia. This is his ticket right now.

  • Oops, look like the GOP is the one with the scandal of faking e-mails!  Wow, this blowing up in their face:

    • Gawd, what must it be like to be such a total anus sucking Collectivist tool?
      Did YOU read the emails?  No.  I can say with confidence you did not.

      • Rags, you’re seeing your ideology whither.  Gay marriage is spreading because it’s an expansion of the American ideal of liberty.  Immigration reform is coming.  The tea party is dying.  Your thinking is obsolete, the purview of old white males and only really alive in the south (which is always a generation behind).  The times are a-changing.  The world you want to see will never exist again.

        • Since I KNOW you are completely unaware of your self, I have no doubt you missed the racism, agism, and sexism in your STUPID comment.
          But it was not wasted on others, who are pointing at you and laughing.

          • Gotta pull out the old Neil Peart quote:  “The world is a cage for your impotent rage, but don’t let it get to you.”

          • And, when no one actually displays rage, you simply lie and pretend they do. How strange.

          • According to a new poll from Gallup, 69 percent of those polled agreed that questions over the Obama administration’s public response to the September 11, 2012, attack on the American consulate in Benghazi, Libya deserve more investgiation, including 52 percent who “strongly agree.”

            The funny take-away from all your posts here, Erp?  You are the LEAST informed on the facts here, and the MOST ideological.
            The EXACT opposite of your delusional self-image.  A perfect Collectivist example.

          • You are the LEAST informed on the facts here, and the MOST ideological.The EXACT opposite of your delusional self-image.

            It’s the Goebbels technique.  Accuse your opponent of your own faults.  And, of course, he accuses others of using Gobbelesque propaganda techniques.

          • Yet Obama’s approval ratings remain strong.  And the media is full of reports of the “scandals” falling apart.  But put on your blinders, stick to right wing blogs.  You’re the Baghdad Bob here!

          • But 59% now say that the U.S government could have prevented the attack in Benghazi, up 11 points from last November. And only 37% say that congressional Republicans are overreacting in their handling of the matter, with 59% saying they’ve reacted appropriately.—CNN
            “Approval”, Erp…!?!?  Of WHAT?  The IRS tyranny?
            Let us say, arguendo, that people find Pres. Sleeper “likeable”.  Does that make his predation OK…???
            You DO see the fallacy there, right…???  No…???  What a puke.

          • And the media is full of reports of the “scandals” falling apart.

            “We made them drink poison last night and Saddam Hussein’s soldiers and his great forces gave the Americans a lesson which will not be forgotten by history. Truly.”

            You’re the Baghdad Bob here!

            “These cowards have no morals. They have no shame about lying”
            Encore!  Encore!

        • The tea party is dying.  Your thinking is obsolete….

          “On this occasion, I am not going to mention the number of the infidels who were killed and the number of destroyed vehicles. The operation continues”

    • Blowing up in their face?
      You think that detail of one small facet of one complex scandal, out of a handful of active scandals, out of a pile of scandals during the Obama reign is going to magically undo everything?
      The more you seize on minutia while ignoring the big picture, the more I’m convinced that Democrats are in big trouble.  Your Basil Pascali impression is priceless.
      Your attacks on the “tea party” are a matter of record, which is how you’re in deep on this whole war.

    • I don’t really have time to fisk your bullshit TPM talking lies, but I won’t sleep until I do a little punking of you.
      First, NOBODY pretended the GOP-provided material was “an email”.

      The source was not permitted to make copies of the original e-mails. The White House has refused multiple requests – from journalists, including myself, and from Republican leaders in Congress – to release the full e-mail exchanges.—Jonathan Karl, ABC News

      They were…and were reported as…SUMMARIES of the emails.  As such, they were remarkably accurate.
      Second, very little of any significance was different.  Witness this:

      The Republican version notes Nuland discussing: “The penultimate point is a paragraph talking about all the previous warnings provided by the Agency (CIA) about al-Qaeda’s presence and activities of al-Qaeda.” The actual e-mail from Nuland says: the “…penultimate point could be abused by Members to beat the State Department for not paying attention to Agency warnings…” —from the cBS report

      In other words, Nuland (who IS Old Walleyes Clinton here) knows there is a scandal (ONE of many: they were warned and ignored the warnings), and expressly calls for a coverup to avoid Congressional oversight.  Reason tells us this is purely political.
      I cannot recall anyone saying, “Whoa, bitch…that ain’t right!” in any of the emails.  Indeed, Rhodes makes his curiously artful statement about, “We need to resolve this in a way that respects all the relevant equities, particularly the investigation.”  Ultimately, Nuland’s “equities” carry the day.
      Third, either out of artiface or sheer stupid, the cBS bois do a masterful job of obfuscation in their “report”.

      Republicans claim that the Administration watered down the facts in talking points that were given to U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice for television appearances while Mr. Obama was running for reelection.—Pelley

      Nope.  The LIES Rice chanted were not formed during this exchange, but only appeared sometime later.

      Scott, Republicans have claimed that the State Department under Hillary Clinton was trying to protect itself from criticism.

      See above.  That is precisely what Nuland DID do.  Overtly.  With collusion.
      Note this lil’ trick…

      Republicans claim that the Administration watered down the facts in talking points that were given to U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice for television appearances while Mr. Obama was running for reelection.

      The C.I.A. agreed with the concerns raised by the State Department and revised the talking points to make them less specific than the C.I.A.’s original version, eliminating references to al-Qaeda and affiliates and earlier security warnings. There is no evidence, Scott, the White House orchestrated these changes.

      Two points here; first, EVERY-FLUCKING-BODY in this email exchange IS the FLUCKING “Administration“.
      Second, as alluded to above, NOBODY…including Rhodes (who IS Obama here) did anything BUT conspire to coverup the SCANDALS already in play.  They all worked to render a set of talking points so sanitized Patraeus called them “useless”.
      Then, knowing the original information on Benghazi, and following the statement by the Libyan President EXPRESSLY saying it was terrorists, planned, etc., they ALLLLLL colluded in the LIES about the video, and the attendant attack on the 1st Amendment, over the very caskets of the dead.
      What an idiot you are, Erp.  I could go on, but I think I can sleep now.

  • By the way, now that it’s come out that the GOP altered e-mails, that there is no Benghazi scandal (Secretary Gates brilliantly smacked down the GOP on this even before the revelations about Republican fraud came out), and that Congressional staffers in the GOP should be investigated, are you going to apologize?  Are you going to admit that gee, nothing was there, and the Republicans were trying to construct a scandal, shamelessly using a national tragedy to do so?  Do you know how bad this is going to blow back on the GOP?

    • The idiocy exhibited here is truly gob-smacking.
      But not at all out of character.  You really do not comprehend what an ass you have made of yourself, do you?

    • You lied, attributing a quote to Gates which he didn’t say.  He worked in two positions for the president who started a war based upon bad intelligence, which would implicate him.

      Gates only addressed the logistics of bringing military force to the scene during the attack.  He said nothing of the statements by Obama, Biden, Clinton, Rice, et al. which have been demonstrably shown to be flat-out lies.
      Then there is the IRS, the AP, Fast and Furious, etc., etc..  You think all of those are undone if it turns out some Republicans played dirty tricks over some e-mail quotes?
      Your head must be a disaster area right about now.

      • Elliot, how easily you hurl out accusations of “lie,” but in this case it is you who are dishonest (and I’ve noticed that from you a lot).   Gates said he would have made the same decisions as Obama, dismissed attacks on Clinton, and said that the Republicans saying the US could have done something militarily had a “cartoonish” view of the military.  His money quote:  “Please, it’s not like Obama used false intelligence to invade a country leading to the deaths of hundres of thousands.” Now that the national media is reporting on the REPUBLICAN falsification of e-mails, this “scandal” has come full circle.  Oh, how delicious!   Lovin’ it!

        • As noted elsewhere, a lot of those “cartoonish” assessments of military responses to Benghazi came from career military men, who have trained all those careers to do exactly what they were saying was possible in Benghazi.
          Pinata lied.
          Even State has its own (pretty large) army of people capable of the response we are alluding to here.
          As Hicks testified, twice such a response was mounted; twice it was told to stand down.
          All this bullshit you are reveling in…and, boy, you are in serious bullshit eating mode…is old news.
          You really should try to stay current in your reading.  Well…and not be such an amazing suck-ass.

        • Here’s something current…

          “You were talking earlier about kind of dismissing the Benghazi issue as one that’s just political and the president recently said it’s a sideshow,” said Woodward. “But if you read through all these e-mails, you see that everyone in the government is saying, ‘Oh, let’s not tell the public that terrorists were involved, people connected to al Qaeda. Let’s not tell the public that there were warnings.’ I hate to show, this is one of the documents with the editing that one of the people in the state department said, ‘Oh, let’s not let these things out.’ And I have to go back 40 years to Watergate when Nixon put out his edited transcripts to the conversations, and he personally went through them and said, ‘Oh, let’s not tell this, let’s not show this.’ I would not dismiss Benghazi. It’s a very serious issue. As people keep saying, four people were killed. You look at the hydraulic pressure that was in the system to not tell the truth, and, you know, we use this term and the government uses this term, talking points. Talking points, as we know, are like legal briefs. They’re an argument on one side. What we need to get rid of talking point and they need to put out statements or papers that are truth documents. Okay, this is all we know.”

          But there are Collectivists who really are so mind-fucked, they don’t have the ability to process the truth, since it interferes with the delusions they cherish.

        • His money quote: Please, it’s not like Obama used false intelligence to invade a country leading to the deaths of hundres of thousands.‘”

          A Google search shows the only place that that “money quote” exists is on your blog.
          Scott Erb lied.


          Now that the national media is reporting on the REPUBLICAN falsification of e-mails, this “scandal” has come full circle.  Oh, how delicious!

          I just searched all of the major networks and none of them are reporting any such thing.  Your “cite” was a blog entry, not an actual news article.  Ragspierre demonstrated that the claim of falsification was, itself, false.  If the “national media” is reporting this, could you produce actual cites of actual articles from a national media outlet?  You know, front-page type stuff, not someone’s blog entry.
          As for what Gates said, again, it was about logistics of the military operation.  That’s his opinion.  Others have made different assessments.
          But how does bickering about the logistics during the attack have anything to do with Obama, Biden, Clinton, Rice, et al. deliberately lying about the attack, claiming that it was related to a video protest, when they knew it wasn’t?  Gates statements don’t undo those lies, which are the focus of the criticism.
          You’re flailing about, making a fool of yourself, acting like “Baghdad Bob”.  Take a vacation from the news.  Spend a week without any internet, TV, radio, or newspaper.  Go for a walk in the woods.  Take your kids on a cross-country drive.  Read a novel completely unrelated to politics.  Smoke some pot, if that’s what it takes.
          If you can’t stop lying about this stuff, so blatantly, when anyone can verify with Google that you are lying, you need professional help.

          • Correction: The story about the GOP altering quotes was not merely a blog entry.  Your cite was a blog entry, not an article on a national news.  When following the links, I saw it was actually reported on the CBS Evening News.
            I’ll wait to see if this has any merit, or if, as Ragspierre argued, the leaks were never intended to be direct quotes of e-mails.

            Read that.  Both Hayes and Karl make clear they were not given actual emails, nor were their sources claiming any such thing.
            The people in Congress were not GIVEN the emails, except, apparently, for in camera review.
            Hence, the need for the summaries.

          • Erp has shit on his face, like a kid who had his head buried in a bowl of devil’s food cake batter.
            And…apparently…he’s real happy about it.
            What a pathetic display of suck-uppery…

          • I don’t think he’s liking much these days, not even licking the boots of the people who are in full CYA mode.
            In fact, I’m sure his mind is in total disarray.  It shows in his arguments.  Whenever he sticks his neck out to justify the unjustifiable, he will either slink away and disappear for months or stand there like Baghdad Bob saying absurd things because he is too proud to admit he was wrong or that his heroes are villains after all.
            I still say he needs to disconnect from the outside world and go spend a week with his kids camping or something.  As rotten a person as he is, I just hate to think how his instability impacts those around him.

        • “Please, it’s not like Obama used false intelligence to invade a country leading to the deaths of hundres of thousands.”

          Funny, Erp. I searched for that quote all over the interwebs.  The ONLY place showing it is your blog.
          Inndat curious…
          Plus, IF Gates actually DID say that, he’s as big a liar as you are.  CONGRESS, as we all know, invaded Iraq, using the best intelligence we had, and 23 separate predicates.

          • Note that Robert Gates was in the CIA during the Bush 41 years, during Desert Storm.  He was the Secretary of State from 2006 (Bush 43) into Obama’s reign.  So, he was part of the system which, according to Scott, “used false intelligence”.  Which would mean that he signed on to support these people.  If he had said such a thing, he would be damning himself.

  • Ew.
    MORE current events…

    The IRS commissioner “has known for at least a year that this was going on,” said Myers, “and that this had happened. And did he share any of that information with the White House? But even more importantly, Congress is going to ask him, why did you mislead us for an entire year? Members of Congress were saying conservatives are being targeted. What’s going on here? The IRS denied it. Then when — after these officials are briefed by the IG that this is going on, they don’t disclose it. In fact, the commissioner sent a letter to Congress in September on this subject and did not reveal this. Imagine if we — if you can — what would have happened if this fact came out in September 2012, in the middle of a presidential election? The terrain would have looked very different.”—Lisa Myers, nbc

    Yes.  Imagine….

    • Since Ott Scerb has yet to resurface, I’ll just throw out a draft:

      But Colin Powell fixed all that.  His money quote: “It’s not like the IRS tortured prisoners and took pictures of them.”  That proves that the IRS scandal has come full circle and the national media is running non-stop coverage about how the GOP faked the stories about the IRS treating conservative groups unfairly, leaking doctored quotes.  The so-called “public apology” was just CGI.  In fact, the IRS gave tea party groups 501(c)4 status with no questions asked and they actually made it more difficult for liberal groups.  This shows the GOP is on the run!  It’s soooo delicious!

    • You do know the IRS Commissioner was a Bush appointee, don’t you?  Oh wait, don’t want to spoil your self-contained fantasy.

      • See, moron…???
        All you can do is view events though a POLITICAL PARTY lens.
        OH, YAH…You are SOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooo non-idiological and “pragmatic”.
        What a pathetic joke.  I almost feel sorry for punking you around the ‘net.  Still…some of us HAVE to do it.
        You ATE up that moonbat LIE about Gates, posted on a site that pulled it out from under you…!!!
        I will ALWAYS LOVE that episode of “Erp Sucks Moonbat Anus“.

      • Scott: You do know the IRS Commissioner was a Bush appointee, don’t you?

        ABC News:Sarah Hall Ingram served as commissioner of the office responsible for tax-exempt organizations between 2009 and 2012. But Ingram has since left that part of the IRS and is now the director of the IRS’ Affordable Care Act office, the IRS confirmed to ABC News today.


  • The union representing the State Department’s security officers has endorsed House Republicans’ call for a special panel to investigate the Obama administration’s handling of Benghazi.
    J. Adler, the national president of the Federal Law Enforcement Officers Association, wrote to Rep. Frank Wolf (R-Va.) on Friday to call for a “bipartisan” select committee to be formed “immediately.” The union represents 26,000 federal officers, including those working for the State Department’s Bureau of Diplomatic Security.
    “In supporting this measure, I would expect full bipartisan cooperation of both parties, and save the sticks and stones feuding for trivial matters,” Adler wrote. “We have grieving family members and a seriously injured DSS [Diplomatic Security Service] Special Agent that deserve the unwavering respect and commitment of our Congress. Our heroes didn’t take pause while confronting fatal risk. Congress should not take pause in confronting the need to properly investigate this matter.”
    —The Hill
    Oh.  Dear.

  • “We’re portrayed by Republicans as either being lying or idiots,” said one Obama administration official who was part of the Benghazi response. “It’s actually closer to us being idiots.”
    Ah.  The ol’ “We were idiots” alibi….  And they are running national security.

    • Really…???
      You are going with that?
      The CIA…never a monolith, btw…WARNED Old Wall Eyes about the threats.  So did her own people.  I guess that just was not enough to raise a flag that MAYBE she should at LEAST partially give up some of her delusions about the utterly delusional Pres. Sleeper foreign policy, and provide her people with SOME level of security in a very dangerous place, at an OBVIOUSLY significant time.
      CAN you manage to detach from the anus of the Collective, one wonders…???

  • The Foreign Emergency Support Team known as “FEST” is described as “the US Government’s only interagency, on-call, short-notice team poised to respond to terrorist incidents worldwide.” It even boasts hostage-negotiating expertise. With U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens reported missing shortly after the Benghazi attacks began, Washington officials were operating under a possible hostage scenario at the outset. Yet deployment of the counterterrorism experts on the FEST was ruled out from the start. That decision became a source of great internal dissent and the cause of puzzlement to some outsiders.

    Thursday, an administration official who was part of the Benghazi response told CBS News: “I wish we’d sent it.” The official said Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s deputy, Patrick Kennedy, quickly dispensed with the idea. A senior State Department official Thursday told CBS News, “Under Secretary Kennedy is not in the decision chain on FEST deployment” but would not directly confirm whether Kennedy or somebody else dismissed the FEST.  [FEST leader] leader Mark Thompson says Benghazi was precisely the sort of crisis to which his team is trained to respond. While it was the State Department that’s said to have taken FEST off the table, the team is directed by the White House National Security Council.

    Eat MORE shit, Erp.  And (metaphorically) die.

  • Having pretty completely shown Erp for the Collectivist anus sucker he has demonstrated himself to be here, how about this…
    Erp, would you join in the growing call for a Select Committee to investigate Benghazi, including any bullshit accusations your moonbattery comes up with?
    Wouldn’t you like a time-line on Pres. Sleeper’s evening on Sept. 11?  JUst a simple Yes or No. Please.
    Wouldn’t you like to know who crafted the “movie review with heavy weapons” crap?  And why, weeks after the attack was a known al Qaeda planned attack…with warnings an’ ereythang, Obama was at the UN pushing the “movie review” LIES?
    And wouldn’t you like to hear from Old Walleyes Clinton about the months BEFORE she left our ambassador to die?  And WHY it matters, at any time?

  • Enterprises take their cues from the top. Criminal enterprises are no different: The capos do not carry out the policy of the button-men — it’s the other way around.
    So if I were investigating Benghazi, I’d be homing in on that 10 p.m. phone call. That’s the one between President Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton — the one that’s gotten close to zero attention.
    Benghazi is not a scandal because of Ambassador Susan Rice, State Department spokesperson Victoria Nuland, and “talking points.” The scandal is about Rice and Nuland’s principals, and about what the talking points were intended to accomplish. Benghazi is about derelictions of duty by President Obama and Secretary of State Clinton before and during the massacre of our ambassador and three other American officials, as well as Obama and Clinton’s fraud on the public afterward.
    At about 9 p.m. Washington time, Hicks learned from the Libyan prime minister that Stevens was dead. Hicks said he relayed all significant developments on to Washington as the evening progressed — although he did not speak directly to Secretary Clinton again after the 8 p.m. briefing.
    That is the context of the 10 p.m. phone call between the president and the secretary of state.
    We do not have a recording of this call, and neither Clinton nor the White House has described it beyond noting that it happened. But we do know that, just a few minutes after Obama called Clinton, the Washington press began reporting that the State Department had issued a statement by Clinton regarding the Benghazi attack.

    And THAT is where the coverup begins.  Right there.  With Clinton and Obama.

  • According to a new poll from Gallup, 69 percent of those polled agreed that questions over the Obama administration’s public response to the September 11, 2012, attack on the American consulate in Benghazi, Libya deserve more investgiation, including 52 percent who “strongly agree.” On the IRS scandal, even more Americans, 74 percent, agree that issue needs to be investigated more, including 56 percent who “strongly agree.”
    Um…Erp…???  Wanna suck MORE anus here…???

  • IF you want to see the Benghazi scandalsssSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS, and how guilty Pres. Side Show knows he is, in a neat lil’ visual…

  • Erp…
    WHO is “out of touch”…???

    But 59% now say that the U.S government could have prevented the attack in Benghazi, up 11 points from last November. And only 37% say that congressional Republicans are overreacting in their handling of the matter, with 59% saying they’ve reacted appropriately.—CNN
    It’s the same story on the IRS controversy, with 54% saying the GOP in Congress has not overplayed its hand.

    That was VERY charitable.
    By my lights, Pfeiffer LIED, which seems his main and only talent.  But the piece DOES punk Erp again.  Some more…

    Just as I told you the polls were not skewed, Obama would win easily, and the Democrats would gain seats in the Senate (Rags especially mocked me on those points), it looks like I’m right about these “scandals”.  Enjoy!  I’m off to Italy, so you all can have the final words.

    • You lied about the “fabricated emails”.
      You lied about Obama backing away from the “movie review with heavy weapons”.
      You lied about the obvious coverup EXPRESSLY mandated by State to avoid Congressional…and political…accountability.
      Every one of those is objectively shown here.
      Now, run to Italy, you pathetic sack.

    • Oh, I almost forgot my favorite of your lies this time around…
      The Gates “quote” you sucked up from the moonbattery, without the least thought of checking under the hood.
      Tell us the one again about how you are NOT ideological, and are TOTALLY pragmatic…!!!
      C’mon, I can NEVER get enough of that one…!!!

    • …it looks like I’m right about these ‘scandals’….

      “We have them surrounded in their tanks”

      I’m off to Italy, so you all can have the final words.

      “Screw you guys!  I’m going home!”
      Bon voyage!  Thanks for keeping us in stitches instead of, you know, spending your time preparing for your trip, spending time with your wife and children, etc..  The sacrifice was worth it for our entertainment.

  • …it looks like I’m right about these “scandals”

    “Right”…???  Using the battiest of the moonbats as your “authority”.
    I get it.  That was one last gift of ironic humor.

    • Clintonian parsing old boy, it depends on what your definition of the word ‘right’ is.   Lacks the same Clinton bravura as using the word itself in questioning the definition.

    Bob Sheiffer is not sucking the Collective butt.