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Short memory theater

Speaking of “disgust”, these people disgust me – this one in particular:

Striking a tone of disgust, House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi ridicules the GOP as obsessed with its loathing of President Obama and hell-bent on hurting him politically, regardless the cost. She assigns little to no blame to the president (even though Democrats privately say that’s laughable) and instead portrays him as saintly, above reproach and the victim of jealousy or something worse.

After 26 years in the House, she says, “I haven’t seen anything like it. I haven’t seen anything like it.”

She must have had an 8 year mental enema then because she did precisely what disgusts her for 8 years to a president of the opposition party.   And, of course, does anyone in the press call her on it.

No.

Then, like many of our political class, she utters nonsense that is factually inaccurate:

Then she added a line that she has used before, that drives Republicans batty: “He has been … open, practically apolitical, certainly nonpartisan, in terms of welcoming every idea and solution. I think that’s one of the reasons the Republicans want to take him down politically, because they know he is a nonpartisan president, and that’s something very hard for them to cope with.”

Does anyone in the press call her on it?

No.

“Ill served” by both the press and our politicians doesn’t even begin to cover it.

~McQ

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72 Responses to Short memory theater

  • mental enema!

    Oh man, you’re killing me.
    Yeah, and Obama is “apolitical, certainly nonpartisan”.  He has to be, because he thinks like Scott, and Scott is as objective as they come in their analysis, right?

    • Actually Erb and Pelosi sound a lot alike.   I think she’s closer to how Erb really thinks than either one of them are to the way Obama thinks.
      So, that syndrome can now be named – Erb Pelosi Syndrome.
       
      As for Obama….Obama is quite busy enough thinking about Obama, and that’s about all.
       
       
       
       
       

      • Well, have you ever seen Nancy and Scotty in the same room together?

        • My EYESSSSSSS….
          I’M BLIND….!!!!!!!!!!!!
          The nerves of my optics….they are on fire….!!!!

        • Too bad the interviewer didn’t get a chance to ask Nancy about pizzerias stealing from the low-paid workers.  She just wouldn’t answer the first question.  No doubt, she would have declared that pizzeria owners were stealing from such workers and that courageous night managers were justified in seeing to it that  such victims were able to eat free pizza on the house, in perpetuity.

          • Wow, Elliot, it’s very flattering that I clearly am in your thoughts so dominantly.   I love it.

          • Of course you love it, just like Miley loves any kind of attention.  But I’ll bet your desire to have a memory hole here is far greater.
            Anyone reading this can go look at an exposition of you changing your story, making contradictory claims, demonstrating that you can’t even keep track of your lies.
            It’s bookmarked.  Nothing you can do about it.

          • Nancy? Is that you?

      • If what Erb does can be called “thinking”, rather than raw emoting.

  • Usual warning: when they say such preposterous stuff, they don’t think they’re lying. (See 4th comment in that thread.)

    • Well what actually has happened is that the hard core left like Pelosi have long ago entered a zone in which there is no such thing as a lie possible for them and their kin and no such thing as truth possible for the other side,  In other words they have twisted their own thinking to such an extent that truth and lies are not even situational they are purely ideological. So he can say anything which pops in her head, no matter how absurd because if she said it it is the truth.  In the same way you can show a lefty academic a mountain of evidence against their views but it is not true because a lefty did not say it.

  • The vaunted ‘fourth estate’ is more akin to a ‘fifth column’.

  • http://hotair.com/archives/2013/09/19/wapo-4-pinocchios-for-obama-extort-claim-on-debt-ceiling-negotiations/
     
    Pres. Pinocchios, and his pack of yapping lap-dogs are responsible for the most execrable decline in pretty much everything good in the United States over the last 5 incredible, heart-breaking years, including our position in the world.
     
    Thanks, Erp.

    • True, but we were headed down the same road just not quite as fast in the previous regime.

      • If you define “not quite as fast” to be the difference in speed between a bi-plane and the Concorde SST.
         
         

      • Politely…er…bullshit.
        We would all kill for a labor participation rate like we had under Booooosh.
        Or a quality of life curve.
        Or a “respect for law” index.
        Or any racial harmony indices.
        Remember, he DID preside over a recovery from a recession…PLUS the economic hit we took on 9/11.
        Hardly a Conservative president.  But a FLUCKING PRESIDENT.

        • TARP
           
          Enough said.

          • Really?
            Isn’t like saying, “Well, he did step on that land mine” as the alpha and omega of someone’s entire life?
             

          • If Bush were a man of integrity, or at least as good as your description, he would have vetoed TARP, gone on national TV, and explained the ethical and practical problems with rewarding failure and graft.

          • First, I didn’t say a word about “integrity”.  But he is arguably a man of integrity.  He may not hold your values, but that does not mean he has no integrity WRT his values.
            Second, I did not “describe” him.  I pointed to several things showing a difference between his stewardship and Obama’s.
            Third, we agree that TARP was an unmitigated disaster.  Ours is not…nor was it at the time…the prevailing view among a lot of (wrong) very highly placed people.  In fact, there was a strong current of opinion internationally that something TARP-like would be needed to avert a world-wide financial disaster.  IF it could be averted at all.

          • First, I didn’t say a word about “integrity”.  But he is arguably a man of integrity.  He may not hold your values, but that does not mean he has no integrity WRT his values.

            I listened to speeches and debates, when he was running for governor, then president, and during his reign when he addressed a major event, such as 9/11.  Not only did he seem to have an IQ about 20 points higher when he was running for governor (find clips of debate(s) on YouTube), but his advocacy of personal responsibility and similar values was in great contrast to the prescription drug program and TARP, to name a few.
            Also, by which values did he decide to trump up an excuse to invade Iraq, which had nothing to do with 9/11, or to throw Rumsfeld under the bus because Nancy and Harry took over Congress?
            If one is to counter that politicians have to make pragmatic compromises to win elections and to maintain public opinion, I’ll just point to his dismal record in allowing public sentiment to turn against him and his party so much that they lost Congress and, arguably, set up the Democrats to be a lock for 2008.  Even if you value political victories more than individual rights, honesty, and such, you have to judge him by his failures in that arena.

            In fact, there was a strong current of opinion internationally that something TARP-like would be needed to avert a world-wide financial disaster.

            Not everyone was beating the drums and screaming in panic.  But the media gave them a greater voice and, by and large, ignored the dissent.  Panic and catastrophe sells more papers.  I’m sure many, if not most, who were squawking the loudest stood to lose quite a bit if these financial institutions were allowed to bear the consequences of their bad decisions.  Much of it was self-serving.
            Most of the worst acts of government, the greatest infringements on individual rights, were predicated on a presenting a dilemma as a catastrophic crisis.  Whether it’s the New Deal, drug prohibition, the war on terrorism, the “health care crisis”, the subprime mortgage crisis, or global warming climate change carbon pollution it’s always an excuse to take away your money and your power to make your own choices, to spy on you, to grope you in public, to storm into houses with unaccountable paramilitary platoons of adrenaline junkies.
            Whenever someone in government, or some public pundit raises the specter of “crisis”, I immediately look to what they want to take.
            I think Bush caved on TARP, violating any values he previously expressed in his speeches on economics and personal responsibility,.  Integrity?  No.  He was in way over his head.
            That is not to say that Obama isn’t horrific and worse in so many ways.  I just don’t give Bush credit for not being as bad.

          • Bush was a good man who had plenty of integrity.

            TARP, Part D, and his other bad decisions were just that, bad decisions, not a lapse of integrity.

          • I think he got tired of being the most hated man on the MSM.   Not there was anything he could do to fix that, short maybe of exploding.

          • I just don’t give Bush credit for not being as bad.

            http://media.hotair.com/greenroom/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/fred-dc-usa-medianincome.jpg
            Well, you are just wrong.

          • DonS: “Bush was a good man who had plenty of integrity. TARP, Part D, and his other bad decisions were just that, bad decisions, not a lapse of integrity.

            Politicians don’t have integrity.  Even someone like Ron Paul selectively compromised the principles he espoused.  It’s the nature of the business.  A “bad decision” would be eating spicy Indian food before you have to take a long trip.  The legislation he pushed and signed was a betrayal of the fiscal conservatism he claimed in his speeches, that which his campaigners presented as the qualities which set him apart from Gore and Kerry.  Of course those were lapses.
            I noticed that you did not address the invasion of Iraq.

            looker: “I think he got tired of being the most hated man on the MSM.   Not there was anything he could do to fix that, short maybe of exploding.

            I got that.  My only point was to counter Rags’ suggestion that stayed true to the values he had, which were different than mine.  No matter what metric you choose with which to measure him, he fell short.

            Ragspierre: “Well, you are just wrong.

            You misunderstood me.  “I just don’t give Bush credit for not being as bad,” I wrote.  I agree that Bush was not as bad as Obama.  For me, that doesn’t negate his failings.  If Scott stole 5 pizzas and Bob stole 73 pizzas, I don’t give Scott credit for not being as bad as Bob.
            And, I don’t give presidents credit for positive economic growth.  The more they get out of the way, the more productive those in the private sector are allowed to be.  Impeding people is a negative.  But leaving people alone isn’t a positive.  It’s neutral.
            OK, so the new don only squeezes 4% from businesses, not 15%.  Gee, what a swell guy.

  • The scary part would be if anyone took anything San Fran Nan seriously.

  • http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/uncommonly-partisan_756468.html?nopager=1
    Yeeeeeup.
     
    THE most divisive man ever to hold that office in living memory.
     
    AND the most pathetic, narcissistic broken child ever.

  • On PBS, they are claiming that Obama is remaining “above the fray” whilest taunting the Republicans. 
    This is like saying that Charles Whitman was remaining “above the fray” while he was shooting at folks from the University of Texas clock tower in 1966 leaving 16 dead.

    • What’s required is to make the broadcast sound intelligent.   Actual intelligence is no longer a requirement.
       
      I’m not sure how much longer the momentum of the reality version of the country can function in the fantasy universe they’ve constructed and think they occupy.   I am convinced however that events are close to overtaking their reality.

    • That is an AWESOME analogy!  You win the Internets.

  • Oh, I do agree with Pelosi, and love how Obama is now getting positive reviews on Syria.  I think the GOP is driving themselves into a dead end (though to be fair, I like Boehner too – I think he’s a good conservative trying to reach deals but he’s dealing with jihadists in his own party…Boehner is a good man, I approve of the job he’s doing!) I do agree Pelosi and the Democrats treated Bush much like the right wing is treating Obama, and BDS and ODS are very, very real.  I’m one of the few people who actually like both Obama and Bush (though second term Bush was far wiser and made fewer mistakes than first term Bush).

    • Poe’s Law.
      The primary distinction between “Ott Scerb” and the target of his satire is mentions of caterpillars.

      • That, and a good 25 IQ points… and a few prescriptions for heavy duty pharmacologicals.

      • And yet what are you doing with your life, Elliot?

        • What are you looking to find out?
          I am attending to that which sustains me and my family.  I am leading by example: honesty, integrity, fulfilling obligations, empathy, and a keen judgment which disregards the “common wisdom” and other indoctrination when such things are in conflict with reality.
          Those are the most important things in my life.  My interest in understanding political predators and their enablers is mostly about identifying that which is a danger to my loved ones, neighbors, and to the culture at large.  At times I feel a bit like Cassandra, seeing the disaster but realizing that almost nobody else is that worried.  But at least there is a record of those who stood up against depredations, who mocked the ridiculous lies, who identified the obscene abuse of power.
          You’re just a useful foil, an entertaining diversion.  In your apparent arrogance–some would say narcissism–you give away your support for those who do harm to innocents, while playing childish rhetorical games and putting on a clumsy mask which fools no one here.  I really don’t care if you are delusional and believe your own nonsense, or if you’re just a shameless propagandist and troll.  I don’t care about your job, your family, your hobbies.  You are nothing that I think anyone should want to emulate, so the mostly mundane details of your activities have no meaning to those who look for what is best in Man.

        • Geeze, who are you now, Father Scott?
           
          Take your bogus quantum spirituality and peddle it elsewhere you humbug.

          • That was an odd response to me pointing out how Scott Erb and Ott Scerb are, with a few exceptions, nearly indistinguishable.  What that had to do with what people are “doing with” their lives is beyond me.  I guess he’s sore at me.

    • Wow, this guy’s like a lunatic at an insane asylum, chanting the same nonsense over and over…

      • He’s down to trolling outrage for his stupidity.
         
        He doesn’t even pretend to have valid reasons any more.
         
         

    • Oh, I do agree with Pelosi, and love how Obama is now getting positive reviews on Syria. No, I don’t have to furnish any links to those reviews. Shut up. Top men have given positive reviews. TOP MEN.

      Stop laughing! Those positive reviews are out there, I tell you! And not all of them are from Syrian flacks! People like me, who just find war icky, were really, really stressed about the whole bombing thing, and now we’re not. I mean, how would you feel if all of a sudden Ted Cruz came out in favor of a single payer health plan? We knew in our hearts Obama was just dreamy, and we were playing along with him on the bombing thing, trusting his christlike visage and sharp pants creases. And he came through for us and found a way not to do it!

      That’s all it takes! Positive reviews, man! Now I don’t have to stand in front of my students and explain how, yes, I’m in favor of Obama bombing children, but just this one time and only if he jumps through some bureaucratic hoops so I can say it was justified. Now I can go back to my heartfelt “war is icky” foundations. It’s so much relief that even the magenta caterpillars with Sarah Palin’s face and ample bosom gave out a great collective sigh, took off their naughty librarian glasses, and bowed their headsd in thankful prayer.

      So shut up about how it just gives Assad that much more time to kill his opponents with whatever weapons he chooses, and it makes Putin look like the world leader instead of Obama. Who wants that nasty old job, anyway? It’s much more important to advance the cause of glorious leftist moderate utopia here at home.

      And shut up about how Putin is now taking it all back and making Obama look like his little bitch. That’s not true! Obama handled it so, so deftly. He doesn’t care that Putin looks good as long as he gets the result he wants. And whatever came out in the end was the result he wanted. Be definition. The holy axioms of quantum spiritualist leftism declare it to be so.

      I think the GOP is driving themselves into a dead end. Have I said that before? Probably so, because you GOP types are so obsolete and being left behind. Have I said that? What? Several hundred times? Well, I lose track, because I have to repeat stuff over and over and over in the vain hopes that you dense righties finally get the message someday.

      So shut up about how I just repeat the same things every time I come here. Sure, I have to remind you of some key facts. Facts, facts, facts, along with rich, creamy analysis to tell you what it all means, because you’re obviously incapable of figuring it out yourselves. Why, you were taken in by Putin’s posturing! You’re so gullible.

      Stop laughing. It isn’t either gullible to believe that whatever Obama does is right and perfect, and that Nancy Pelosi has some strong logical points that I agree with. She does, too! Stop laughing, dammit! You just don’t understand those things because you don’t have a degree from a place with “advanced” in its name, which confers you with godlike powers of political science. Like me. Have I mentioned my degree before? Probably not, because I’m so humble and never use logical fallacies like appeal to authority. Or ad hominem. And you sterile, inbred, Goebbles-like righties should remember that.

      Though to be fair, I like Boehner too – I think he’s a good conservative. That is, he’s the kind of conservative we wise pragmatic moderate leftists want to deal with. Which means he pokes the limited government Republicans in the eye, which is delicious trys to reach deals with us to advance collectivst utopia. But he can’t because he’s dealing with jihadists in his own party.

      Yes, jihadists, I say. Which isn’t either a vicious, over-the-top insult, so don’t start. They have a religious attachment to stupid things like the constitution. Which the holy axioms of quantum collectivism have determined, via the holy power of post-modernism, to say whatever we need it to say to advance our holy leftist moderate utopia. Which, in the end, means we wise pragmatic moderate leftists tell the rest of you grunts to do whatever we determine is best. Suck on it. LOL.

      Boehner is a good man, I approve of the job he’s doing! Why, he’ll have those tea party Republicans turned into wise moderate Republicans in no time. Then they won’t give we wise pragmatic moderate leftists nearly as much trouble. They will understand, as their predecessors in office understood, that their role in this kabuki sober process is to offer minor criticisms about how fast we’re turning the country into a collectivist utopia, so we can find ways to pull the wool over the eyes mollify the rubes out there who just don’t understand the glorious wisdom of collectivism and big government.

      Which doesn’t either have any scandals, so shut up about those! Benghazi is just evidence of how smart Obama and Hillary are, and no doubt they have some brilliant game underway and in the end they will look like the geniuses they are over the whole thing. That’s certainly the way I expect to see it written up in the history books.

      Same for the IRS stuff. And that guns in Mexico stuff. And who cares if the NSA records every email and phone call we make? It certainly doesn’t bother me, because I don’t do anything wrong. In fact, I might get a commendation out it someday.

      I do agree Pelosi and the Democrats treated Bush much like the right wing is treating Obama, and BDS and ODS are very, very real. Especially ODS. Which you all have. I decree it. And I didn’t either have BDS. Why, I said some good things about him! After he was safely out of office, and I could declare that “the Bush regime is over, finally.”

      I’m one of the few people who actually like both Obama and Bush. Stop laughing, dammit! I did too like Bush! Don’t you dare bring up all the stuff I said about him over Iraq and how I just rearrange reality in my head any time I fell like it!

      Yes, I definitely liked the guy who I said was behind the biggest foreign policy disaster in american history. Because the second term Bush was far wiser and made fewer mistakes than first term Bush. Which, of course, is why the Democrats took back the Congress in the middle of his second term. He was acting so much like a Democrat that people realized they wanted the real thing.

    • Oh, I do agree with Pelosi, and love how Obama is now getting positive reviews on Syria.

      Where, besides the moonbattery, Erp?
      DO you even read…???  Serious question.

      It’s not difficult to pick winners and losers here. Clearly, Russia is a winner — the deal-maker, the guarantor, the U.N. Security Council member packin’ a veto. Israel wins in the short run if Syria actually disposes of its WMDs. The long run, though, is a different story. Israel’s preoccupation is Iran and its presumed effort to make a nuclear weapon. If this happens, that’s another Obama red line — possibly another chance to wobble. But the Syrian people are the sure losers. The United States, the Russians and the Assad regime have a deal. WMDs must go. The killing by other means can continue.
      As for everyone else, we’re all losers. Because of Obama’s fecklessness — abetted by a Congress that has turned darkly isolationist — the world is now a less safe place. The policeman has proved to be a bumbler. He is unschooled in foreign policy. Rogues and killers have taken the measure of him. He is smaller than first appeared.
      An Obama forced to act like Bush is ironic, but no fun. They both got into their fixes by adhering to false policies. Bush had a red line for WMDs that didn’t exist. Obama, in the end, didn’t have one for WMDs that did.
      —Richard Cohen

    • Oh, I do agree with Pelosi, and love how Obama is now getting positive reviews on Syria. No, I don’t have to furnish any links to those reviews. Shut up. Top men have given positive reviews. TOP MEN.�

      Stop laughing! Those positive reviews are out there, I tell you! And not all of them are from Syrian flacks! People like me, who just find war icky, were really, really stressed about the whole bombing thing, and now we’re not. I mean, how would you feel if all of a sudden Ted Cruz came out in favor of a single payer health plan? We knew in our hearts Obama was just dreamy, and we were playing along with him on the bombing thing, trusting his christlike visage and sharp pants creases. And he came through for us and found a way not to do it!�

      That’s all it takes! Positive reviews, man! Now I don’t have to stand in front of my students and explain how, yes, I’m in favor of Obama bombing children, but just this one time and only if he jumps through some bureaucratic hoops so I can say it was justified. Now I can go back to my heartfelt “war is icky” foundations. It’s so much relief that even the magenta caterpillars with Sarah Palin’s face and ample bosom gave out a great collective sigh, took off their naughty librarian glasses, and bowed their headsd in thankful prayer.�

      So shut up about how it just gives Assad that much more time to kill his opponents with whatever weapons he chooses, and it makes Putin look like the world leader instead of Obama. Who wants that nasty old job, anyway? It’s much more important to advance the cause of glorious leftist moderate utopia here at home.�

      And shut up about how Putin is now taking it all back and making Obama look like his little bitch. That’s not true! Obama handled it so, so deftly. He doesn’t care that Putin looks good as long as he gets the result he wants. And whatever came out in the end was the result he wanted. Be definition. The holy axioms of quantum spiritualist leftism declare it to be so.�

      I think the GOP is driving themselves into a dead end. Have I said that before? Probably so, because you GOP types are so obsolete and being left behind. Have I said that? What? Several hundred times? Well, I lose track, because I have to repeat stuff over and over and over in the vain hopes that you dense righties finally get the message someday.�

      So shut up about how I just repeat the same things every time I come here. Sure, I have to remind you of some key facts. Facts, facts, facts, along with rich, creamy analysis to tell you what it all means, because you’re obviously incapable of figuring it out yourselves. Why, you were taken in by Putin’s posturing! You’re so gullible.�

      Stop laughing. It isn’t either gullible to believe that whatever Obama does is right and perfect, and that Nancy Pelosi has some strong logical points that I agree with. She does, too! Stop laughing, dammit! You just don’t understand those things because you don’t have a degree from a place with “advanced” in its name, which confers you with godlike powers of political science. Like me. Have I mentioned my degree before? Probably not, because I’m so humble and never use logical fallacies like appeal to authority. Or ad hominem. And you sterile, inbred, Goebbles-like righties should remember that.�

      Though to be fair, I like Boehner too – I think he’s a good conservative. That is, he’s the kind of conservative we wise pragmatic moderate leftists want to deal with. Which means he pokes the limited government Republicans in the eye, which is delicious trys to reach deals with us to advance collectivst utopia. But he can’t because he’s dealing with jihadists in his own party.�

      Yes, jihadists, I say. Which isn’t either a vicious, over-the-top insult, so don’t start. They have a religious attachment to stupid things like the constitution. Which the holy axioms of quantum collectivism have determined, via the holy power of post-modernism, to say whatever we need it to say to advance our holy leftist moderate utopia. Which, in the end, means we wise pragmatic moderate leftists tell the rest of you grunts to do whatever we determine is best. Suck on it. LOL.�

      Boehner is a good man, I approve of the job he’s doing! Why, he’ll have those tea party Republicans turned into wise moderate Republicans in no time. Then they won’t give we wise pragmatic moderate leftists nearly as much trouble. They will understand, as their predecessors in office understood, that their role in this kabuki sober process is to offer minor criticisms about how fast we’re turning the country into a collectivist utopia, so we can find ways to pull the wool over the eyes mollify the rubes out there who just don’t understand the glorious wisdom of collectivism and big government.�

      Which doesn’t either have any scandals, so shut up about those! Benghazi is just evidence of how smart Obama and Hillary are, and no doubt they have some brilliant game underway and in the end they will look like the geniuses they are over the whole thing. That’s certainly the way I expect to see it written up in the history books.�

      Same for the IRS stuff. And that guns in Mexico stuff. And who cares if the NSA records every email and phone call we make? It certainly doesn’t bother me, because I don’t do anything wrong. In fact, I might get a commendation out it someday.�

      I do agree Pelosi and the Democrats treated Bush much like the right wing is treating Obama, and BDS and ODS are very, very real. Especially ODS. Which you all have. I decree it. And I didn’t either have BDS. Why, I said some good things about him! After he was safely out of office, and I could declare that “the Bush regime is over, finally.”�

      I’m one of the few people who actually like both Obama and Bush. Stop laughing, dammit! I did too like Bush! Don’t you dare bring up all the stuff I said about him over Iraq and how I just rearrange reality in my head any time I fell like it!�
      Yes, I definitely liked the guy who I said was behind the biggest foreign policy disaster in american history. Because the second term Bush was far wiser and made fewer mistakes than first term Bush. Which, of course, is why the Democrats took back the Congress in the middle of his second term. He was acting so much like a Democrat that people realized they wanted the real thing.

    • Scott Erb
       
      Where fart imitates life.

    • Scott,

      You’ve gone from partisan hack to a pathological nutcase. Get help now before your head explodes from the hypocrisy and contradictions. Actually…..don’t. That would be incredibly funny to see….

  • She truly doesn’t think that he’s being partisan.
     
    Only Republicans can be partisan.
    Democrats are reasonable people that seek only the best for the country and are never partisan.  Republicans are evil bastards that put the party before country, willing to let Grandma die to advance a GOP agenda to save a dollar for the rich.
    Just ask her…..she’ll tell you.

  • Annnnnnda, on another of Pelosi’s moonpony fetishes….
    http://www.foxnews.com/science/2013/09/20/warming-lull-since-18-haunts-climate-change-authors/
     
    Yes.  They are haunted by their documented lies and coverups of their lies.

    • Yeah, they’re concerned they’ll have to send the boys round to break things in order to collect their graft.  Hard to justify all the global warming graft taxes if there’s no warming.
       
      It’s easier when the proles ‘voluntarily’ send it in, just ask Harry Reid.

  • Usual warning: when they say such preposterous stuff, they don’t think they’re lying. (See 4th comment in that thread.)

    —- Which is why this has to be settled by a national “divorce”
     

  • http://washingtonexaminer.com/worst-obama-approval-ratings-in-two-years-just-30-of-independents-support/article/2536176
    But he’s getting all those raves about his Syria wonderfulness from people who really matter!
    How can this poor polling be possible…???  Stupid, stupid proles.
     

    • I heard yesterday that Obama and Putin agreed on what to do about Syria during the G20, and Lord Obama graciously let Putin take credit for it later.
       
      I wonder if the world is more awesome in their version of reality.  Food better?  The greens more green and t he reds more red?  Beer tastes better maybe?  Sorta like Fiddlers Green?  Girls are all pretty and the beer is all free and there’s bottles of rum growing on every tree?

      • The delusions are getting harder to maintain, but they’ve been around for quite a while.

        Example: Try asking a typical leftist why the most putrid public schools, that also cost the most money, are invariably in cities run by leftist Democrats for decades. They have no answer, because they don’t even want to face the question.

        If you force them to face it, they’ll just wail “racism!”, as if that were some kind of universal solvent that dissolves all criticism. That’s the tip of the sphere for the whole “political correctness” weapon, which is nothing more than a means to get their way without any logic, reason, facts, or reality on their side.

        That can’t face the reality of the failure of the blue social model, and the collectivist thugs who run it, because it would mean turning their back on a lifetime. They would have to admit that they were duped their whole life – first by elementary school teachers, then by college professors, then by politicians and media types. They would have admit that voting for a media-pumped boob like Obama was a mistake, instead of the life-changing, spiritual experience they believed it was when they did it.

        That’s why our hope is in the generation coming of age right now. They only have to turn their backs on their gooey elementary and high school teachings, which were sort of soft focus. In the real world, they see preposterous college costs, the student loan scam to keep those costs afloat, high unemployment, mandates to spend what little money they do make on healthcare, and politicians like Obama and Pelosi, who are obviously incompetent ideologues.

        My college age sons tell me that one of the trendy things in college and high school now is to be libertarian. I hope they’re right.

        • Sorta like the claim of ODS.  Claim that and you get to ignore facts, logic and reason.

          • People with ODS ignore facts, logic and reason – Like Obama getting a clear victory on the Syria deal.   ODS is based on emotion, not reason.

          • People with Obama Dependency Syndrome ignore facts, logic and reason – Like seeing Obama got a clear victory on the Syria deal. Obama Dependency Syndrome is based on emotion, not reason.

          • People with ODS ignore facts, logic and reason….

            You’re calling people “deranged” because they criticize the president for things he says and does.  It’s a bit like the Soviets putting political dissidents into mental wards, on the basis that criticizing one of history’s most murderous, brutal, oppressive governments was a sign of insanity.
            Idea: you could stop the name calling, quit accusing people who criticize your party leaders of being “deranged”.  Drop the “ODS” slur and focus on the substance of the criticisms.  Quit trying to pretend that people who speak up for individual rights are kooky, crazy, silly, etc..
            Deal with others as human beings, not caricatures.

          • But that would require a intellectual honesty that we know Erp abandoned long ago…
             
            IF he ever had it.  He is just a lying tool for his Collective.

          • “People with ODS ignore facts, logic and reason”
             
            So, tell us Scott, what is your excuse?

        • I remember back in my callow yut knowing that LBJ was full up to his eyeballs in shit.
          I didn’t know how to process that information, but I did have a working bullshit-O-meter.
          Hopefully, you can help the kids around your son process what they inherently know.
          Contra Erp…

          • Heh, I am pretty sure Erp thinks the kids are on his path. What are the odds he is only seeing kids who agree with his view of 21st century socialism so that they can get a free trip to Italy and an easy A?

        • From what I see with my own…four ingredients.
           
          1) hearing from people they can trust – like their folks…that this ain’t the way it was, or should be.
          2) Sources of information OTHER than the BS stream from the Obamanauts/ Lame Stream media
          3) getting them to READ the information and be aware of the need to do smell checks on all of it.
          4) suffering along with the rest of us from ‘the stupid’.

  • And this form Politico

    Barack Obama has still never really sold the American people on anything but himself.
    For Obama supporters, the question has become frustrating and frequent: how can the man and the team who made a freshman senator the country’s first black president, and kept people with him despite Great Depression-level unemployment, have failed to truly turn public opinion around on a single difficult issue?
    Twice, they turned Candidate Obama into a movement. But they haven’t been able to turn President Obama into more than an inclination.

    The guy is a campaigner, but no politician who knows how to negotiate.   LBJ would be picking him up by his ears because that would be all he’s good for.

  • The Climate Commission has been scrapped and billions of dollars in renewable energy funding effectively frozen as the Abbott government moved swiftly to wind back Australia’s climate change response, as promised.
    Outgoing chief commissioner Tim Flannery, who was told yesterday morning he had lost his $180,000-a-year, part-time role, said abolishing the publicly funded body was “the government’s prerogative” but he would not be silenced. …
    Scrapping the Climate Commission is expected to save taxpayers $580,000 this financial year and $1.6 million in following years. …
    The changes to the commission came as the government pursued plans to wind up the $10 billion Clean Energy Finance Corporation, created by Labor to fund renewable energy projects that would otherwise struggle to get commercial backing.

    Given Australia’s experience (not to mention Spain’s experience with Green jobs), only a idiot would continue with a Carbon Control regime.

    President Barack Obama is that idiot.

  • Dear Mr. President,
    It didn’t seem possible, but you shocked me. After lowering my expectations for you, from very high five years ago to bottom-of-the-barrel now, I figured you could never again disappoint me.
    But you did it. And if your aim was to further diminish respect for the office you hold, mission accomplished.
    The content of Monday’s hyperpartisan speech was par for your hyperpartisan presidency, but the timing marked a new low. Let me be clear: Have you neither decency nor shame?

    **It’s hard to imagine a more tasteless moment in presidential history.**

    You knew when you took the stage to denounce Republicans that a gunman had opened fire at the Washington Navy Yard, but you didn’t know the full extent of the carnage because nobody did. That’s why you should have stayed silent.
    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/09/18/most-tasteless-presidential-moment-ever-obama-cracks-joke-attacks-gop-as-navy/
    Yeeeeupo.  Pres. Red Line is a sick, broken child.  Everything he touches is made worse.

  • People with ODS ignore facts, logic and reason – Like Obama getting a clear victory on the Syria deal.


    The rest of the world doesn’t think Obama got a clear victory, Erb.  For the most part, the world knows that Obama got taken for a ride by Syria and Russia.

    • It depends on what you value. One person’s clear victory may be another person’s dead loss.

      Many on the left place a preposterously high negative value on using military force. So almost anything is a victory to them if it avoids using such force.

      In this particular case, I didn’t see a compelling case for us using military force in the first place. It’s pretty clear, though, that the fumbling way Obama got into and out of the whole thing resulted in some major foreign policy costs in credibility and reputation.

      That unfortunately makes it more likely that we will have to use such force in the future to ensure that opponents take us seriously when we are defending our interests. Many on the left don’t want to see that. Because they are pretty much always opposed to the use of military force, they don’t really think through the long term consequences of threatening it and then having the threat being shown as empty.