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Poll: GOP gets most of the blame for shutdown, but Obama approval dips to 37%

Not that I care, particularly, who gets the blame in all of this.  Frankly I’m with the “a pox on both your houses” group that finds the entire Congress and the President to be equally at blame.  But then there’s the “I’m fine with the shutdown and it is important for the GOP to make the spending point” that finds me mostly on the GOP’s side.

Look, we’ve seen the government shutdown before.  And despite all the scare rhetoric, we’re not going to default on our debt.  Nope, this is about how inconvenient this bunch who continues to want to run up debt can make this shutdown seem to the voters.  The idea, obviously, is to have them screaming and whining enough to push the GOP into their usual position – the dying cockroach, where they give in and let the Democrats have their way.  Result?  The usual – more spending and more debt.

Anyway, to the AP poll:

The Associated Press-GfK survey, out Wednesday, affirms expectations by many in Washington — Republicans among them — that the GOP may end up taking the biggest hit in public opinion from the fiscal paralysis, just as that party did when much of the government closed 17 years ago. But the situation is fluid nine days into the shutdown and there’s plenty of disdain to go around.

Overall, 62 percent mainly blamed Republicans for the shutdown. About half said Obama or the Democrats in Congress bear much responsibility.

“About half” blame the Dems and Obama. Yet, Obama’s approval ratings drop by 10 points from his previous low of 47%. Hmmm. Must be more to it than “about half”, huh?

But the media spin machine prefers to lay it on the GOP.

As for ginning up support to pressure the GOP to cave, there’s still a ways to go:

More than 4 in 5 respondents felt no personal impact from the shutdown. For those who did, thwarted vacations to national parks, difficulty getting work done without federal contacts at their desks and hitches in government benefits were among the complaints.

And the “impact” with the worst optics (and mostly blamed on the administration)?  The Gestapo like tactics of the Park police and the “Barrycades” at national monuments and parks.

More results:

— Sixty-eight percent said the shutdown is a major problem for the country, including majorities of Republicans (58 percent), Democrats (82 percent) and independents (57 percent).

— Fifty-two percent said Obama is not doing enough to cooperate with Republicans to end the shutdown; 63 percent say Republicans aren’t doing enough to cooperate with him.

— Republicans are split on just how much cooperation they want. Among those who do not back the tea party, fully 48 percent say their party should be doing more with Obama to find a solution. But only 15 percent of tea-party Republicans want that outreach. The vast majority of them say GOP leaders are doing what they should with the president, or should do even less with him.

— People seem conflicted or confused about the showdown over the debt limit. Six in 10 predict an economic crisis if the government’s ability to borrow isn’t renewed later this month with an increase in the debt limit — an expectation widely shared by economists. Yet only 30 percent say they support raising the limit; 46 percent were neutral on the question.

I didn’t look into the numbers on the poll, but I’d bet it is a bit Democrat heavy.  That said, it’s interesting that a majority within that poll said Obama isn’t cooperating enough.  That’s right, that’s over half.  Somehow that’s buried in all of this (and yeah, that’s not just ‘about half’, that’s over half).

And the real story within the poll:

Most Americans disapprove of the way Obama is handling his job, the poll suggests, with 53 percent unhappy with his performance and 37 percent approving of it.

The point?

It seems to me the “blame” is pretty evenly divided.  I guess you can claim the GOP is getting most of it, but when you see an already low presidential approval rating drop by 10 point in the matter of a couple of weeks right in the middle of this nonsense, it’s hard to claim that 53% of the voters aren’t blaming the President.

However, if your messaging is directed toward blaming the GOP, well, you just sort of bury that in the story.


25 Responses to Poll: GOP gets most of the blame for shutdown, but Obama approval dips to 37%

  • Consider what the poll results would be if we had a working press.
    Obama gave a larf-riot of one stupid, inapposite analogy after another yesterday, and got ZERO questions about his SpiteHouse campaign against the American people, and ZERO questions about the roll-out of what Billy calls “404Care” and what I call ObamaDoggle.
    What an amazing show of lap-doggery…

  • Since the republicans are going to get screwed anyway, they might as well, as a former candidate for Texas governor opined – relax and enjoy it.
    They need to stay on message, whatever it is these days.   It for damn sure does not need to be “whatever you want massah Barack, massah Harry”.

  • Holding up death benefits for vets sure won’t help Barackys optics.
    Such a petty nasty sh itstain of a human being. Close those parks. Guard old faithful better than our embassy in Benghazi. Shut down the amber alert site while the Presidential golf course remains open. Cretin.
    The House should pass a bill specifically defunding the secret service, Air Force one, and limo service for the Pres and his family for the duration of the shutdown.
    The GOP can win this if they stick with it – I starting to believe it. Drag EVERYONE down to the muck in these polls.

    • President Obama has ordered officials to resume paying death benefits to the families of fallen soldiers and was “very disturbed” they had been halted due to the government shutdown, said White House spokesman Jay Carney.

      Carney said Obama had ordered the Office of Management and Budget to work with Spite House lawyers to find a way to restart the benefits and expects a fix Wednesday.

      “He was not pleased to learn of this problem,” Carney said, adding it was “unthinkable” that those who had lost family members would go without benefits.

      The Spite House said that Congress was warned that death benefits would be halted in a government shutdown and said the “Pay Our Military Act” passed late last month, which authorized paying the salary of service members, did not “explicitly” address the issue.

      Republicans have said the administration should have interpreted the law to allow the benefits.

      It actually said that Pres**ent Obama is “very disturbed”.   Actually he is f—in loon.

  • The MSM made a big deal of GWB’s popularity sinking to 36% back in 2006, so no doubt they’ll treat Obama’s low as equally newsworthy and make a big story of it for weeks on end…

    • Oh, you bet…
      Blitzed Wolfer has HOURS of coverage planned…

      • Isn’t it in the time slot just after “Barry and Moochelle’s Spite House”

      • I remember Wolf in the “Situation Room” on CNN.
        Every headline was joined with the refrain of “How is this bad for the President ?”

        Boy falls into well while camping … How is this bad for the President ?

  • The worm is turning!  Obama and his henchmen have done the dirty by denying servicemen their death benefits and requiring further legislation.  There was no need for any legislation to begin with. The military has the SGLI, the Serviceman’s Group Life Insurance plan. Every service member, regardless of service, has this plan and the premium for this “benefit” is deducted from their pay each and every month. the only thing the federal Government has to do with it is provide the service to its members. For the administration to say there can be no “death” benefits due to the shutdown is pure BS!!!!!!And according to the Veterans Affairs web site, these benefits are provided regardless of the shutdown:

    • THANK YOU!  I wondered how the hell the insurance can’t be paid, but I figured something had changed.

  • This is just too good to miss …

    In a statement citing the Authorization to Use Military Force, which was passed by Congress after the 9/11 attacks on America, the US military yesterday justified the Oct. 5 raid by US Navy SEALs that targeted a senior Shabaab leader in Somalia. But just four months ago, President Barack Obama called for the repeal of the AUMF, claiming that the law will “continue to grant presidents unbound powers more suited for traditional armed conflicts between nation states.”

    • Right, and he doesn’t want armed conflict.   He wants to be able to drone strike you from 10,000 feet, no conflict involved.

  • I wish the next time the Democrats called for Compromise, they were challenged to “Define an example!” which would force them to admit when they mean compromise they mean go along and shutup.  I’d just like to see some mouthpiece or pundit or Whitehouse stenographer challenged on it once. 

  • The Park Service told Claude Moore Colonial Farm to shut down.
    The farm’s administrators appealed this directive​—​they explained that the Park Service doesn’t actually do anything for the historic site. The folks at the NPS were unmoved. And so, last week, the National Park Service found the scratch to send officers to the park to forcibly remove both volunteer workers and visitors.
    Think about that for a minute. The Park Service, which is supposed to serve the public by administering parks, is now in the business of forcing parks they don’t administer to close. As Homer Simpson famously asked, did we lose a war?
    —Jonathan Last
    “Gangster Government For The Little People”.
    Did we lose a war…??? No. We let Collectivists have power.  And our civil service is riddled with these pukes.  They will be here when Obama has gone, too.

    But THAT is UNPOSSIBLE…!!!
    Our buddies at the Collective tell us all the time that charities cannot do stuff like the government can.
    Maybe they meant kicking you out of Yellowstone…

  • Ah, the jack-boots are coming out of the closet…!!!
    LOVE it when these authoritarian, totalitarians come out in their true plumage!
    “When asked specifically whether the government should be able to require all Americans to buy insurance or face a fine, only about 3 in 10 Americans agreed, and 68 percent were opposed.”—AP polling
    When you know you are wrong, that is when you go to greatest extremes to prove your point.


  • The House of Representatives cannot only refuse, but they alone can propose, the supplies requisite for the support of government. They, in a word, hold the purse that powerful instrument by which we behold, in the history of the British Constitution, an infant and humble representation of the people gradually enlarging the sphere of its activity and importance, and finally reducing, as far as it seems to have wished, all the overgrown prerogatives of the other branches of the government. This power over the purse may, in fact, be regarded as the most complete and effectual weapon with which any constitution can arm the immediate representatives of the people, for obtaining a redress of every grievance, and for carrying into effect every just and salutary measure. — Federalist 58

    The House appears to be trying to do their job, but our press is too stupid to know it.