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Another reason you should never believe a thing this administration says

Because, as we’ve learned over the years, it’s likely either spin, just not true or both.

For instance, we have the President claiming victory for ObamaCare because it has 7.1 million enrollments.  Note the word – “enrollments”:

‘The goal we’ve set for ourselves – that no American should go without the health care they need … is achievable,’ Obama declared.

The president took no questions from reporters, but celebrated the end of a rocky six-month open-enrollment period by taking pot shots at Republicans who have opposed the law from the beginning as a government-run seizure of one-seventh of the U.S. economy.

‘The debate over repealing this law is over,’ he insisted. ‘The Affordable Care Act is here to stay.’

And, as is usual with this man, he simply declared he’d won and simply threw out “facts” that haven’t at all proven true. Essentially lies in a bigger lie:

‘“The bottom line is this,’ said Obama: ‘The share of Americans with insurance is up, and the growth in the cost of insurance is down. There’s no good reason to go back.’

Of course the “share of Americans” with insurance isn’t up (over 7 million lost their insurance when their plans didn’t qualify under ObamaCare) and costs are certainly not “down”.

Jay “Baghdad Bob” Carney took it from there (Carney is a perfect name for the position, he’s like a carnival barker):

‘At midnight last night we surpassed everyone’s expectations,’ he boasted, ‘at least everyone in this room.’

While he took great pains to emphasize that the total would grow – saying ‘we’re still waiting on data from state exchanges’ – he dodged tough questions about other statistics that reporters thought he should have had at the ready.

Those numbers included how many Americans have paid for their insurance policies, and are actually insured. Also, he had no answer to the thorny question of how few signups represented people who had no insurance before the Affordable Care Act took effect.

But as usual, when ever they drop something like this in a news cycle, the devil is in the details.  For instance, an unpublished RAND study that suggests that relatively speaking, very few of the enrollees were previously uninsured:

The unpublished RAND study – only the Los Angeles Times has seen it – found that just 23 per cent of new enrollees had no insurance before signing up.

And of those newly insured Americans, just 53 per cent have paid their first month’s premiums.

If those numbers hold, the actual net gain of paid policies among Americans who lacked medical insurance in the pre-Obamacare days would be just 858,298.

So effectively, assuming the numbers are correct, less than a million are newly insured.  And, as we’ve read in the past, most of them are Medicaid subscribers.

In other words, we’ve gone through all this hell, all this disruption, the higher costs, the lesser insurance plans, the IRS enforcement, etc. just to enroll 858,298 people – most of whom have ended up on a program that existed prior to this atrocity.

Perhaps the biggest laugh line of all, however, comes from David Axelrod, who declared that ObamaCare was totally going to change “the attitude that government can’t do anything“.  Of course he only felt comfortable saying that on MSNBC.  One can certainly understand why.

Meanwhile, for the most part, the RAND study goes unpublished and, for the most part, unexamined.  The King has declared victory – the big lie has been established – debate over.


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28 Responses to Another reason you should never believe a thing this administration says

  • Odd that they manage stats on a system that previously they said they couldn’t gather stats for.
    Or is it.

    After all the bogus numbers this pack of liars and outlaws have published, only a complete moron (natural or optional) would buy anything they said.
    Right, Erp…???

    • Of course, we will have to control our gag reflex with this headline … Democrats don’t spike ball on ObamaCare
      “Elections are always about jobs,” House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said Tuesday. “So I think that, while … we’re proud of the Affordable Care Act, we now pivot to job creation.”

  • 7.1 million enrollments … 30 million people who tried to enroll

    • 15-20% of whom didn’t pay.

    • In the closing days of the open enrollment period for the Affordable Care Act (ACA) , the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) was mailing out letters notifying certain Americans that they had already started a healthcare coverage application on their behalf.

      The HHS letter stated that the information they used to begin the application for individual Healthcare was obtain by the state agency in charge of implementing Obamacare.

      The next step for the individual would be visit and complete the already started application to see if they qualify for “Marketplace coverage.”

  • One of the big Democratic talking points has been that Obamacare’s ”slacker mandate” — its requirement that private insurers offering family-based coverage allow “adult children” to stay on their parents’ plans until they’re 26—has increased coverage by 3 million people.
    It turns out that number is basically fraudulent, and comes from a two-page press release put out by an Obama-administration analyst. It involves giving Obamacare credit for (1) young adults on Medicaid and other government programs, for whom the under-26 mandate doesn’t apply; and (2) people who gained coverage due to the quasi-recovery from the Great Recession. As you can see in the below chart, coverage for young adults dipped in 2009 and 2010 during the recession, but then recovered. In fact, the proportion of young adults with private health coverage in 2008—60.5 percent—is exactly the same as in 2012.
    The 7 million number has all the validity of “jobs created or saved”.  The safe money is on it being pulled to pieces/walked back/debunked over the next few weeks.
    Like the numbers (all lies) used to sell ObamaDoggle, they just pull this crap out of their butts.

    • 85% of the country benefited from Obamadongle….published on the White House web site itself just about a week ago.

  • You guys are all over thinking this.  Please allow me to simplify:

    Fully 50% of the 52%, at a rate of 25%, support the 14% who obtained 80% of their coverage via Obamacare, plus or minus 20%.
    Which has a 50/50 % chance of being true.

  • All I know is this is a b F*ing deal!

    • Especially to us “fluckees”.
      According to Gibbs, the “employer mandate” is a gonner.  The rest will follow.

  • So today, I see the Obama minions, like David Axelrod, are out saying that the employer mandate will be dropped permanently (except the Congress probably won’t be allowed to make it law).

  • No nation should use energy to stymie a people’s aspirations. It should not be used as a weapon. It’s in the interest of all of us to be able to have adequate energy supplies critical to our economies, critical to our security, critical to the prosperity of our people. And we can’t allow it to be used as a political weapon or as an instrument for aggression.
    —John F’ing Kerry
    I totally agree.  Though I doubt VERY seriously that the French-speaking Kerry has ANY flucking idea what he just said.  The PEOPLE of the US should not broach any interference by their government with their use of energy.

  • ‘The debate over repealing this law is over,’ he insisted. ‘The Affordable Care Act is here to stay.’

    Anyone else mentally put “I decree it!” at the end of that statement?

    • In my case it was more, “Watch and see, sukka…!!!”
      Remember Prohibition?  It won’t be over until this carbuncle has been excised.

  • LOL!  That Rand claim has been debunked.   It’s hilarious to watch as Republicans are enraged that their conspiracy theories about Benghazi don’t pan out, that Obamacare is working, and that they’ve bought their own propaganda and are shocked and in disbelief that it isn’t true.  I know this would happen, but it is delightful to watch.  (“Republicans rage at the dying of their memes).

    • Um…Erp…???
      Are you drunk or stoned or what?  Where is the “Rand claim debunked”, moron?
      The Toilet Paper Mau-mau BULLshit you linked to is still making warmly approving reference to the Rand UNpublished, UNreviewed “survey” leaked to the LA Times JUST in time for the ObamaDoggle propaganda extravaganza.   Can’t you even read?  Did that lil’ Russian screw you over THAT badly?
      Benghazi has, of course, been VERIFIED by the testimony of Morell this week.  State rewrote the talking points, as we always told you, idiot.  There WAS no “demonstration”.  The “video” thing WAS ALWAYS a lie, coupled with an attack on the First Amendment.  There WAS an AQ affiliated heavy weapons and ground-force attack, and Pres. ScamWOW was caught holding his dick as Hill-larry scurried around trying to save her double-wide ass.
      Gawd, you are such a pitiful tool.  It is almost too pitiable to watch you pwn yourself.  Almost

    • After all the bogus numbers this pack of liars and outlaws have published, only a complete moron (natural or optional) would buy anything they said.

      Making me a prophet in my own time.

    • Rand study or not, if people had to get new coverage because “they could keep their old coverage” – they were STILL lied to.
      I gather you don’t mind being lied to, or are you just happily selective about lying so long as you’re not affected by it.
      Don’t bother, that was a rhetorical question in your case.

      • But in Post-moderville, there are no lies.  There are just the things our “bright” elites have to tell us for our own good, to get us to provide them grudging consent to compel us to the sunny highlands of central planning goodness.
        That’s what they think.  What I think is there are lies, I know them when they are uttered, and I hate a lie and a liar.
        And I will not be ruled.

    • Unfortunately for you, “debunked” doesn’t mean “I don’t like it, and some lefty site or lefty media outlet asserts that it’s wrong”.
      Example: the Kerry stuff asserted by those who served with him wasn’t “debunked” just because some random reporter at the New York Times said it was.

  • WASHINGTON — White House officials sought valuable primetime air for a rare, impromptu Tuesday night address to tout the accomplishment of signing up more than 7 million people under the Affordable Care Act.
    But network officials refused to make the kind of accommodation they did previously for the announcement that Osama Bin Laden had been killed, for instance, and Obama was left instead cutting into the much smaller audiences ofEllen and other daytime shows.

  • In November, along with millions of other Americans, she lost her health insurance. She’d had a Blue Cross/Blue Shield plan for nearly 20 years. It was expensive, but given that it covered her very expensive treatment, it was a terrific plan. It gave her access to any specialist or surgeon, and to the Sandostatin and other medications that were keeping her alive.
    And then, because our lawmakers and president thought they could do better, she had nothing. Her old plan, now considered illegal under the new health law, had been canceled.
    Because the exchange website in her state (Virginia) was not working, she went directly to insurers’ websites and telephoned them, one by one, over dozens of hours. As a medical-office manager, she had decades of experience navigating the enormous problems of even our pre-ObamaCare system. But nothing could have prepared her for the bureaucratic morass she now had to traverse….

    Another of those ObamaDoggle victims that…
    1. count toward the “sign-ups”, and
    2. don’t really exist because shut-up.

  • ‘The debate over repealing this law is over,’ he insisted. ‘The Affordable Care Act is here to stay.’

    Anyone else mentally put “I decree it!” at the end of that statement?

    —– We don’t NEED to repeal. Obama has set precedent. The next GOP pres can just sign some exec order delaying the mandate forever. Or the upcoming GOP congress can just declare it repealed without an actual vote. Or just nuke the rules to force through a repeal.

    Easy peasey.

    And when they’re done, they should jail Reid. The charge doesn’t matter. He’s not an American and is undeserving of his rights.

  • Erb-
    When the time comes- just remember.
    It will help you understand.

  • As I say, put aside the argument, step back and view the thing at a distance. Support it or not, you cannot look at ObamaCare and call it anything but a huge, historic mess. It is also utterly unique in the annals of American lawmaking and government administration.
    Its biggest proponent in Congress, the Democratic speaker of the House, literally said—blithely, mindlessly, but in a way forthcomingly—that we have to pass the bill to find out what’s in it. It is a cliché to note this. But really, Nancy Pelosi’s statement was a historic admission that she was fighting hard for something she herself didn’t understand, but she had every confidence regulators and bureaucratic interpreters would tell her in time what she’d done. This is how we make laws now.
    Her comments alarmed congressional Republicans but inspired Democrats, who for the next three years would carry on like blithering idiots making believe they’d read the bill and understood its implications. They were later taken aback by complaints from their constituents. The White House, on the other hand, seems to have understood what the bill would do, and lied in a way so specific it showed they knew exactly what to spin and how. “If you like your health-care plan, you can keep your health-care plan, period.” “If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor, period.” That of course was the president, misrepresenting the facts of his signature legislative effort. That was historic, too. If you liked your doctor, your plan, your network, your coverage, your deductible you could not keep it. Your existing policy had to pass muster with the administration, which would fight to the death to ensure that 60-year-old women have pediatric dental coverage.
    —Former Obama supporter Peggy Noonan
    An unprecedented catastrophe.
    Yep.  Read the whole thing.


  • “…the growth in the cost of insurance is down” I just received the renewal quote for my company. A mere 60.75% increase over last year. We used to see 3-5% increases/year. How is a one year 60.75% increase down from a 5% increase?