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Bald faced lies are okay if you’re from the government

The arrogant jerk that is the commissioner of the IRS typifies the type person who hasn’t and never will understand the term ‘public servant’.  He’s a bureaucrat, through and through, and he runs an agency which would never accept the asinine answer to the lost emails that he’s proffered to Congress. But he expects you to accept it without question because, well, because he said so.

Anyone with the IQ of a tea cup knows that emails don’t just reside on “hard drives”. They know that servers are involved. And competent companies and bureaucracies use systems that are redundant and back each other up (like RAID). No company OR agency of any size or worth would be without such a system.

But the arrogant prick that is the director of the IRS sits smugly before Congress and takes offense at being called a liar when he puts the excuse forward that he has. John Hideraker over at PowerLine points out something that you might not have known:

It has emerged over the last few days that at the time of Lois Lerner’s hard drive crash, the IRS had a contract with a company called Sonasoft (“Email archiving done right.”) Sonasoft promoted its relationship with the IRS in 2009: “If the IRS uses Sonasoft products to backup their servers why wouldn’t you choose them to protect your servers?”

So why doesn’t that solve the problem of the missing IRS emails? Because the IRS canceled its contract with Sonasoft in September 2011, a couple of months after Lerner’s hard drive crash. Everyone seems to assume that Sonasoft would have deleted whatever information it had gotten from the IRS at that time. That is certainly a logical assumption; in fact, it would make sense to require Sonasoft to get rid of any customer’s data once the business relationship ends. But it wouldn’t hurt for a House committee to lay a subpoena on Sonasoft to learn more about the IRS’s dealings with that company and make certain that it doesn’t still have any IRS records.

Two observations about the Sonasoft story: first, the IRS’s cancellation of the Sonasoft contract occurred in the context of a $1.8 billion annual budget for information services, plus $330 million annually for “business systems modernization.” All of that, and the IRS couldn’t afford an email archiving service? Not only that, it had to recycle its backup tapes to save money? Ridiculous.

Sure is convenient though, isn’t it?

An analogy as to how outrageous and unbelievable this all is comes from Kyle Smith:

To understand the latest outrage in the IRS scandal, mull over what might happen if regulators found significant evidence to implicate Goldman Sachs CEO Lloyd Blankfein in an insider trading scheme.

Let’s say Blankfein asserted his Fifth Amendment right not to answer any questions. Say Goldman was subpoenaed to provide all of Blankfein’s e-mails. Goldman replied that, instead of complying with the subpoena, it was itself reviewing the e-mails in question and was considering which ones to release.

Now imagine that, nearly a year later, Goldman admitted that it had not, in fact, reviewed the e-mails in question, because they had been lost in a computer crash two months before it claimed to be reviewing them. Imagine Goldman also said copies of the e-mails were lost, because while under subpoena it had destroyed the “backup tapes” (whatever those are) that held them and that it had also thrown away Blankfein’s actual hard drive.

The thing about dogs eating homework is, it could actually happen. This can’t. . . . Lerner wouldn’t have pleaded the Fifth unless she had reason to believe that there was potential illegality and it could be tied to her.

This is in-your-face corruption. This is a bureaucracy saying “screw you” and smugly looking on as you voice your outrage knowing full well nothing will happen to them. Unaccountable and unrepentant … the true face of big government.

~McQ

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30 Responses to Bald faced lies are okay if you’re from the government

  • yo, irs, for 3,000 i can set you up with a raid6 hot swap and not loose any emails ever. chump change for you guys!

    • 1.8 B…B…BILLION per year, NOT counting technology upgrades for several M…M…MILLION per year.
       
      Hell, for that money, I would get the training and build them the systems…with neon lights like in the movies…!!!

      • “Government” is just a word for “things we do together”, such as shoveling incriminating hard drives into an industrial metal shredder…

    •  
      Koskinen’s suggestion in March that the emails were stored on a remote server – not only on Lerner’s personal computer – has brought howls from Republicans, especially since he testified on Friday in a House Ways and Means Committee hearing that the emails were gone for good, and that the IRS had ‘recycled’ the hard drive.
      Audible gasps echoed throughout the hearing room as he voiced that admission.
      Agency guidelines require that ‘IRS offices will not store the official recordkeeping copy of e-mail messages that are federal records ONLY on the electronic mail system.’

      Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2666413/House-Republicans-subpoena-White-House-lawyer-missing-emails-case-IRS-commissioner-prepares-prime-time-grilling.html#ixzz35aOMOaIa

  • I must have lived too long — I remember when it used to be the government, holding the legal use of force, was supposed to be held to MUCH HIGHER standards of conduct.
    We used to do these things before we became “civilized”. <SIGH>

    • sharps, we used to do these things when somebody in government thought they were servants of the public.  I think that ended somewhere in the 40s for the IRS…  If it ever was true.

  • Riiiiight about now – this is how it looks
    Your Lord and Savior – the US government.
     
     

  • It’s corruption, but it’s only directed against the tea party- so who cares?
    For now anyway. This won’t be put up with for long. A weaponized bureaucracy won’t be tolerated.
    Bad times a-coming.

  • Much like letting your teenage child F.U. you to your face, they only do it, if you let them.
    This is the very Constitutional Crisis our Forefathers warned us would happen, placed tools in the Constitution to deal with it and must be applied, forthwith.

    • I’ve made this point before, but bear with me…
       
      Since our Founding, a new and very effective tool was given to us by Henry David Thoreau and his adherents.  (And, see, Billy, I had to look that up to come anywhere close to spelling it right!)
       
      Civil disobedience works every time it is tried and popular supported by enough people.  Without our support, our government would collapse.

  • I’ve made this point before, but bear with me…

    Since our Founding, a new and very effective tool was given to us by Henry David Thoreau and his adherents.  (And, see, Billy, I had to look that up to come anywhere close to spelling it right!)

    Civil disobedience works every time it is tried and popular supported by enough people.  Without our support, our government would collapse.

    —- except we are a VERY divided people, and that’s by design. Let’s suppose the tea Partiers did civil disobedience on as large a scale as you imagine.

    So what?
    It’s not like a single dem will care. And by the time the press gets done painting those crazy lawless tea partiers yelling about their merit less conspiracy theory, how much support do you think there will really be for them? Id bet much less support for them as opposed to locking them up.
    I guess they should try it though. That way they can honestly say they tried all options before resorting to the violence that will ultimately happen.
     

    • Several things…
       
      Yep.  I’d say civil disobedience was a necessary precursor to anything else.
       
      It would not be limited to TEA party people.  Not by any means.
       
      What fraction of the productive part of our economy would need to simply and quietly say, “Nope.  No more until we get this under control.”  Not too large a fraction, I suggest.
       
      A true civil disobedience campaign REQUIRES that people expose themselves to the full brunt of the law.  It REQUIRES the law to put itself on trial in the court of public opinion.  It ain’t easy, but it is simple.

  • Lerner wouldn’t have pleaded the Fifth unless she had reason to believe that there was potential illegality and it could be tied to her.

    I am always uncomfortable when I read statements like this.  It is the same thing that police will say to people when they are stopped:  “If you haven’t done anything wrong, there is no reason not to tell me.”
     
    Yes, in the IRS / Lerner situation there is “potential illegality.”  At the same time, it is estimated that the average citizen violates 3 laws a day in the course of their normal life.  Do we want the government to pull us into court and demand that we confess or aid their investigations that could end up with us in jail?
     
    From what we know, Lerner is a slime.  But even slime are guaranteed protection under the 5th Amendment and that includes a presumption of legal innocence.
     
    I am not willing to throw out the Constitution, the Bill of Rights and other amendments because they apply to a person who is slime just as they apply to me.  Some day, some group in power may determine that bloggers or people that write on blogs are slime and I want that protection founding principles of the United States still in tact.
     
     

    • This is an interesting ambit.
       
      When someone…especially a someone who has just declared they did nothing wrong…invokes the 5th (after waiving it by their previous sworn exculpatory testimony…according to many legal scholars), that leaves us all free to conjecture what the HELL that may imply.  And our opinion is perfectly fine for us to hold.  The presumption of innocence is a limited legal construct that does not extend to prohibiting your use of your good sense.
       
      The legal system is not free to do likewise in the face of invocation of the 5th, or even imply it in making their case against the accused criminal (if there are criminal charges).
       
      Invoking YOUR 5th Amendment rights does NOT, BTW, mean you can no longer be made to answer questions.  You can.  It simply means…like a withheld Miranda Warning…the information garnered by the interrogators may not be used against you.  Not so your co-conspirators.  And, if they flip on you, well…  Opinions vary.

    • Interestingly however, she seems to be the only one to have done so.    Presumably at the suggestion of her legal counsel.
       
      I’ve always hated the use of “if you’re not guilty…” – but then I don’t think anyone on the committee is going to tell her they’re her friend and they just want to help her if she’d just make everyone feel better by telling them what went on.
       
      And lest it be forgotten, she did so WHILE she was employed by the United States Government, not as a now private citizen, former government employee.
       
      Recall this came about as she sort of apologized for scrutinizing conservative groups to cover up wrong doing by sort of admitting they’d discovered some wrong doing and were sorry about that.
      This was the place where we heard the first lie about overzealous front line trogs in Cincinnati searching out ‘tea-party’ and ‘patriot’ in order to perform their jobs more efficiently.

      FIRST LIE.
      Which now of course has all been lost in the fog of time and further lies, delays and obfuscations by the most transparently corrupt administration in at least the last 100 years.

  • I’ve been watching the hearings and it is too bad the press has chosen to ignore most of it.  It is like a soap opera.  Last night
    I came away feeling either the IRS people are incompetent or corrupt.  Either way, it bothers me that Dems are circling the wagons
    and praising all the wonderful work these public servants are doing?  Democrats are nuts.

    • What, these guys did an excellent job for the Democrats in 2012.   Excellent job, following orders.

  • Hey!   What ever happened to those 5 Islamic Yahoos from Guantanamo and how’s old Bowie Bergdahl doing these days?   I see he’s in Texas.
    And did we really pay a ransom in addition to trading 5 splodedopes for 1 traitor?
    Have we taken a Rose Garden lap yet for the guy who riled up that mortar and machine gun armed crowd over that video in Benghazi?
     
    I imagine Baracky welcomes this focus on the now unprovable IRS non-scandal.
    So many scandals, so little room on page 12, just above the bottom of the page and so little time on the nightly news when we can be checking out Kim Kardashian’s big….career.

  • I’m willing to bet that Sonasoft has copies of the last 5 years of emials locked in a vault

    • Has, had ….what’s in a tense.
      The original IRS investigation was probably pretty good.
      I think Sonasoft will find those ‘tapes’ have gone missing, been mysteriously degaussed, were in a portion of the repository that suffered an unforseen event that destroyed ONLY those tapes, and never existed anyway because THAT backup was lost, delayed, misrouted, mishandled, never signed for, never delivered, never received.  So sad.
      Perhaps a stray dog got into that section and ate them.
      take your pick, when you’re lying and you don’t care because there’s nothing they can do to you, ANY lie will do.

  • Several things…

    It would not be limited to TEA party people.  Not by any means.

    ——Oh yeah? Who’s joining in with them? Members of the free sh-t coalition? Hashtag activists? Democrats??? No— any disobedience will be STRICTLY limited to the tea party. You’re simply not credible to think otherwise.

    What fraction of the productive part of our economy would need to simply and quietly say, “Nope.  No more until we get this under control.”  Not too large a fraction, I suggest.

    —–Get this under control being operative. And that control will be asserted by force. You think the govt and media will give them a fair hearing? I predict words like “sedition” and “insurrection” and the dreaded “militia” will be thrown around casually.  Oh, and RACIST. The machine won’t deign to dignify the proles with negotiations.

    Don’t even try to tell me I’m wrong. The weaponized bureaucracy is here to CRIMINALIZE the opposition merely for existing. That’s their first, last and only move when confronted. And nobody cares outside of the victims.


    A true civil disobedience campaign REQUIRES that people expose themselves to the full brunt of the law.  It REQUIRES the law to put itself on trial in the court of public opinion.  It ain’t easy, but it is simple.


    — a true civil disobedience campaign requires an opponent capable of shame to succeed. It also requires the majority have sympathy for the disobedient. We have neither.
     

    • You’re simply not credible to think otherwise.
       
      Well, you may think I’m mistaken, but I am most certainly credible.   Do you think libertarians would join in?  Or is it your position they are all TEA party people?  Are there people who are Blue Collar Deemocrats who are sufficiently disgusted with our tax system that they might join in, too?  I think there CREDIBLY are.  I also think that a draconian response by government would be an AWFULLY bad strategic decision, and one almost calculated to strengthen the movement.
       
      But this one of those things nobody can know much about until it is in process.  Just like the next logical step.

  • From what we know, Lerner is a slime.  But even slime are guaranteed protection under the 5th Amendment and that includes a presumption of legal innocence.

    I am not willing to throw out the Constitution, the Bill of Rights and other amendments because they apply to a person who is slime just as they apply to me.  Some day, some group in power may determine that bloggers or people that write on blogs are slime and I want that protection founding principles of the United States still in tact.

    —–Principles…..gotta love em. Well you go right along with that. As long as you understand that the Constitution has been thrown out on YOU.

    Personally, if Lerners rights were violated…..or the pr*ck Koskinen got that s-eating grin wiped off his face by someone, I’d not give it a second thought. I don’t endorse it happening, I hope it doesn’t and I would advise anyone thinking about it to not do it- but if it did happen, well there’s a lot of things that require my sympathy, that event would very low down on my list.

    • shark, who is talking about stripping Lerner of her rights under the 5th?
       
      I don’t get what you guys are pearl-clutching about.  She has not been indicted, is arguably “Guilty as sin, free as a bird, it’s a great country …”.

  • You’re simply not credible to think otherwise.

    Well, you may think I’m mistaken, but I am most certainly credible.   Do you think libertarians would join in?  Or is it your position they are all TEA party people?  Are there people who are Blue Collar Deemocrats who are sufficiently disgusted with our tax system that they might join in, too?  I think there CREDIBLY are.  I also think that a draconian response by government would be an AWFULLY bad strategic decision, and one almost calculated to strengthen the movement.

    But this one of those things nobody can know much about until it is in process.  Just like the next logical step.

    —-Rags, maybe credible was poor word and I will concede that. But yeah, it will be almost exclusively tea partiers. They’ve been Palinized-  very few blue collar Dems will join in.
    Also, the machine has evolved. It need not be Kent State killing or unseemly pictures of suppression on the evening news like in the Civil Rights era.  Bland form letters and subpoenas aren’t flashy but they can be quite effective. I’m sure things can be ginned up on the leaders of the movement.

    By the time the machine is done Rags, even you’ll be calling for the arrest of those criminal crazy racist separatist militia terrorists.

    • Well, just so’as you know, shark, I would be in the maw of the machine…one of the first in.  You can’t talk this shit and not be ready to step up.
       
      I have any number of faults, but that kind of chicken-heartedness is not one.  I’ve been ready for years, just waiting for the time.  If they threw me in the can, that is something I can stand.  It would be an interesting trial, too…

  • Well Rags, I don’t want you in that position. We need people like you on the outside doing what you do best ;)

    • Thanks, brother.  I’d get better dental inside…  So it shouldn’t be a total loss.

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