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Open access will make it harder to control things….

Not narrowly restricting egress of people from West Africa will make Ebola harder to control and will limit unrest.

“Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, part of the National Institutes of Health, said Sunday that a travel embargo on West African countries that are struggling with Ebola would make it much harder for them to control the virus.

“You isolate them, you can cause unrest in the country,” Fauci told “Fox News Sunday.” `’It’s conceivable that governments could fall if you just isolate them completely.”

Here’s the AP article.    Tony is probably a smart guy, probably lots of letters after his name on his stationary and business cards.  Probably from highly touted schools.    Would it be improper of me to ask about the unrest being caused HERE?  Or are we just supposed to suck it up and let ‘our government’ admit anyone they want to (that would be, yes).

Imagine a country where the leadership has let things get bad enough that people want to remove the current leaders and change the government.   Can’t have that.  The Obama administration understands that because they have a wealth of experience garnered through hard work and extremely careful planning in Libya.   Perhaps that’s why the new approach is to use us as the world’s unrest relief valve and let the unhappy people come here instead.

Dr Tom Frieden thinks banning civilian travel would make it harder to get relief to them.

“Frieden added that a travel ban could make it difficult to get medical supplies and aid workers to the affected regions in West Africa.”

“We really need to be clear that we don’t inadvertently increase the risk to people in this country by making it harder for us to respond to the needs in those countries,” he said, “by making it harder to get assistance in and therefore those outbreaks would become worse, go on longer, and paradoxically, something that we did to try and protect ourselves might actually increase our risk.”

Now, I know what he’s saying is those civilian flights can carry medically trained passengers and medical equipment, and medicines.  Yes they can.   And Domino’s or Asia Wok can deliver pizza or sushi directly to people in isolation here and the pharmacies that do prescription delivery can bring them their medications.   They can, but I don’t think they should and I bet the rank and file in the CDC doesn’t think they should either.   Let the government send aid, let WHO send aid.  Let them charter the planes from the airlines that won’t be flying civilian traffic into those locations.

Frieden also doesn’t want to make it harder for Americans or other people who are allowed to enter the US  to return home. You know what?  it SHOULD be harder, they’re coming from a biological HOT Zone.

It’s hard on those 4 people that are in quarantine here in Dallas.  It’s hard on the others that came in contact with Ebola Zero and are under observation to see if they’ve been infected, and it’s hard on the rest of us wondering if the vagrant that rode in the ambulance after Ebola Zero got transported,  might have caught it before the ambulance was taken out of service and isolated.. and before they lost track of the vagrant (they know where he is, now….only 6 days later of course).

Newsflash Mr. head of the CDC – you can test and quarantine them there, or you can test and quarantine them here.  One way, or another.   Personally I think quarantining them THERE, where the disease is already running around is a much better option than quarantining them HERE, where they can elect to go to school a couple days after you’ve told them they’re in quarantine and are not to leave the house.

Why should the rest of us risk potential exposure because someone traveled for business, pleasure or personal reasons to a West African country where Ebola is literally in the streets?

Why should it NOT be more difficult for them?  This epidemic isn’t new.  It started in December of 2013, so we’re just 2 months shy of a year.   Maybe people traveling to West Africa believe in the magic the DHS and CDC have used so far to stop disease from entering the US.  That would be the magic created by letting anyone, and I do mean anyone, into the country.  Oh, okay, I think we might have a special watch list for grannies from Idaho in wheelchairs, but so far I see we’re okay with Central American gang members, Central American kids with EV-D68 and people from Liberia with Ebola.

Clearly at this point anyone traveling to West Africa is kinda comfortable doing so because they do it.   There is a reason I don’t swim in alligator bayous, belly crawl into rattlesnake dens or run into houses on fire; because I’m not comfortable doing those things.   I don’t much care how they accomplish the restriction but from a government that has nearly banned your consumption of trans-fats, you’d think maybe a ban on travel to and from Ebolalaland would be a natural thing.

So, let them be tested there, and quarantined there in accordance with the choices they themselves made to travel there.

There’s a reason you channel access to contagious people and places.  You do it to CONTROL the access, and try and limit the danger.   Not that I have a tremendous amount of faith in government channeling and control right now and it could be because these bozos keep talking like this.

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30 Responses to Open access will make it harder to control things….

  • There was a report last night on one ofthe Philadelphia TV stations of a suspected Ebola patient in a New Jersey hospital that the CDC refused to test for Ebola because “it was on likely that the patient had Ebola”

    Denial is a river in Egypt I’m told.

  • Alan, it doesn’t appear that you need anymore ammunition, but just in case, I highly recommend this article by a health care professional and then see if you can have a nice day:

    http://raconteurreport.blogspot.com/2014/10/do-math.html

    • And of course those of us with mundane breaks, sprains, fractures, subdural hematoma’s and so on and so on, we want to be treated too. We’re not going to stop getting hurt or sick. We’ll still need treatment.
      When you see a ‘real life TV show’ about how a 3 car pile up with 1 fatality, 5 critical and 2 minor injuries kinda overwhelmed 2 hospitals in a some locale for the show, it starts you to thinking, okay, what if 100 people start bleeding from the eyes within 12 hours of each other in the vicinity of those 2 hospitals that were backs to the wall with 8 people from a non-infectious car wreck.

      You don’t stitch up or slap a bandage on John Q. Ebola and send them home within 2 to 24 hours of welcoming them to your hospital. Common sense tells you that if a suburban/rural hospital can’t handle more than a few, they can’t handle a lot, and all the hospitals in a big city are going to be overwhelmed because more sick people = more vectors = more potential victims.

      They talk a good game, and it better be all they really have to do. They’ve already let a little genie out of the bottle with EV-D68, and we’ve uncorked the Ebola genie and our plan up until now sure looks like we are hoping he just didn’t notice.
      And we’re going to keep importing genie bottles because, optics.

      • Hospitals have spent decades cutting costs, partially by cutting down the number of available beds until there are just enough to meet current demand. Like ‘just in time’ inventory control. This doesn’t leave much capacity to handle emergencies.

        We may have the world’s best medical system under current conditions, but if there is a major catastrophe or epidemic we will be little better off than some third world countries.

        • This is one complaint I have about capitalism, even though I broadly support it otherwise, which is that it is actually so good at being efficient that it tends to squeeze out any long-term disaster recovery ability out of the system. The company making plans for the 10-year disaster will get outcompeted in 5 by the company just planning for the quarter, and then when the disaster hits is suddenly in trouble.

          A wise government would use subsidies intelligently to try to encourage a bit of excess capacity in the critical foundations of civilization. Insert standard QandO snark here, obviously; we haven’t got anything like a wise government right now.

          • Government has been a major force behind the ‘right-sizing’ of hospitals, not just the greedy capitalists.

        • First of all, government rules prevent the opening of new hospitals without the agreement of local competitors.

          So blaming capitalism for a lack of hospitals is risible.

          Taiwan has only one gas station on a corner because they used to be all state-run.

          Do you see that in America? No.

    • And I see, on second reading pasts the CDC helpful advice he pointed all that out.
      Yeah, I’m with him, we’re not ready.

      And this isn’t the only thing we’re not ready for, but hey, why buzz kill all the happy liberals about how we’re not ready to make the rubble bounce in cities like we did during WWII, or shipping selected and profiled people off to Al-Manzanar, which I kinda suspect we’ll be doing within 10 years if present trends continue.

  • http://gotnews.com/unlike-cdc-discoverer-ebola-backs-quarantine-curfew/

    Well, yah, but what does this guy know…

    Ebola is…like AIDS…one of the few communicable diseases in history with its own PC flacks.

  • http://www.steynonline.com/6586/ebola-yes-bagpipes-no

    The BIG GOVERNMENT of Barracula is very successful at screening out the BAGPIPES OF DOOOOOOOOM…!!!

    So we should all be comforted by that

  • In the bad old days before the widespread use of antibiotics quarantine and other measures to insure public health were accepted as normal. I myself was quarantined as a child for scarlet fever. People seem to forget that Ellis Island was created as an immigrant inspection station rather than a welcome center. People also seem to think we know all there is to be known about what diseases are out there.

  • top men are on this.

    TOP.
    MEN.

  • Have to say that I’m a little more concerned since the vector animal is unknown. Monkeys (and Monkees I’m sure) contract the disease and die or live and become immune like people. Dogs don’t develop symptoms but carry the virus, pigs develop them mildly, bats are more a populist choice. If the vector is something as common as Pigs (wild boar qualify I imagine), dogs or bats. The genie will get out of the bottle and ebola will be with us forever. Not just the US, but the entire Western hemisphere, eventually.

    I could see getting the first few Americans here for treatment maybe because we weren’t prepared over there to handle them correctly. There should be two islands now setup one off of Africa and one off the US shore where US infected and suspect infected go before returning to mainland US. By now they should be fully equipped and as good if not better than local hospitals.

    Its going to be funny when Mexico secures its border against the US.

    • And all our new unregistered Democrats start going home.

    • Bats and other mammals. Once it’s established, we’ll never be rid of it. It doesn’t matter how well we contain it in America, Ebola can just hide out in carriers across the border beyond the reach of the CDC. Also, can’t keep out infected undocumented immigrants because racism. Besides, we deserve this divine judgement from Gaia because white guilt. Amen.

      • The recklessness of it all has me wondering if Barakula has decided the US should share some of Africa’s problems.

  • What would be good for these other countries should be a secondary concern for American officials. What would be good for Americans should be the number one priority. Yes of course do anything and everything we can to help others but protecting Americans should be the main thing. When the director of the CDC comes out and states we can’t limit access from those countries because it might inconvenience them, it should be proof that that official is not taking their duty to Americans first.

    • The CDC…like most all organelles of the Federal government…has been “captured” by the Collective and by the natural process of “mission creep” (which is different from Joe Biden).”

      Now they think they are tasked with gun issues, how much salt you eat, etc. They are NOT. They are tasked with one simple concern: protect the United States from the full brunt of a communicable disease that could reach epidemic or pandemic proportions.

      Like all Federal agencies, they have to be broken back to the simple role they should be playing, or eliminated altogether.

      • Along with DHS, who now enforces copyright protection and environmental/import policy.
        Keeping people who don’t belong here out of the country? Not so much.

        (thud thud thud)
        “Sicherheitspolizei! Are you eating salt in there?!!!! Open up!”

  • And in other sorta related news -news media using white coded messages and reporting about Ebola is preventing people of color in South Dallas from getting information about Ebola; what it is, where it comes from, and how it’s spread, requiring health expert Dr. Jesse Jackson to come to South Dallas today to meet with community church leaders and give them the correct Ebola information that media must have failed to provide over the last week.

    “From the airport, Jackson is set to meet with community members at South Dallas Cafe, located in Oak Cliff. Longtime community leader Winsor Barbee said Tuesday morning, “What he is going to do is meet with the southern Dallas pastors and community leaders so they can go back to their churches and community organizations with information on the Ebola virus.”

    Barbee said that Jackson wants to be sure that south Dallas residents were receiving proper Ebola information. “A lot of times,” she explained, “the information is the last to get there. A lot of times, they are the most unaware of what’s going on.”

    Because, uh, idunknow, racist news?

    • See, the natural constituents of Herr Doktor Jesse cannot possibly understand E-bow-la.

      This is why Sheila Jackson-Lee thoughtfully says E-bo-ler. Even though it is named after a river in Africa, and Ms. Jackson-Lee is a freed slave and should know, congenitally, how to say E-bow-la, according to the authorities in Roots.

    • So these community leaders are saying their community- the black community- is a bunch of ignorant know nothing’s who either don’t watch or can’t understand local news.

      Well, far be it from me to contradict them. After all who would know better?

      • All in all the entire concept, from cotton field to massa’s porlour, disgusts me.
        I’m hard pressed to find a more blatent display of the Democrat “plantation” mind set than this.
        It’s an insult to the local black community that the smartypants Jackson has to come down from the big house to explain things to the field labor because, as you said they’re too backward to get the information themselves. It reinforces about half the insulting stereotypes there are, from treating them like ignorant children who can’t or won’t take care of themselves to the idea that they can only get news from the “educated” ministers or reverands of their churches acting the part of parents.
        And then there’s the idea he gives two cents about Duncan and his care, like the hospital will give him subpar treatment because he’s black like Jesse and only Jesse checking up on them will ensure they aren’t substituting saline drips for his antibiotics.

      • From what I see geography is what directs Ebola. It doesn’t seem to care much what the host’s pigmentation is.
        Trust asshat Jackson to find a way to make a buck race pandering a disease that is an equal opportunity attempted killer.

  • Our US medicine vs Ebola average just went from 100% to 80/20.

    Thomas Eric Duncan, Ebola Patient Zero, reportedly just died here in Dallas.

  • When this issue was first being discussed some doctor came up with a reason for no travel ban because he didn’t want to interfere with business.

    That was the telltale sign that something was wrong. Doctors and the government don’t care about business. And there is no business in Liberia except rubber plantations.

    That was their rationale for not disrupting travel of people like Duncan…who was coming here to see family. Really, not an emergency reason to travel.

    So, how about the US embassy not hand out anymore tourist visas for a while?

    Wouldn’t that be a compromise?