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Stray Voltage

Is it Friday already?  Why, yes, yes it is.

So, on with the show.  Our first “Gee, I told you so” of the day comes from the fast food chain, Wendys:

Self-service kiosks will be made available to the more than 6,000 Wendy’s franchises in the United States, the company announced on Thursday. Individual restaurant managers will decide whether to install them as an alternative to having human beings take customers’ orders.

According to Investors Business Daily, which reported the news, Wendy’s executives said the decision was driven by a tight labor market and higher minimum wages in many states.

After all, a computer kiosk doesn’t need to be paid $15 an hour to take orders.

Wendy’s President Todd Penegor told IBD that franchise locations have been raising prices to offset wage hikes and said the company is wary about both wage hikes and a possible recovery in commodity prices and is “working so hard to find efficiencies.”

McDonald’s is also experimenting with self-service kiosks. Wendy’s might also introduce mobile ordering and payment systems next year, according to IBD.

A kiosk also needs no days off, sick leave, paternity leave, benefits or wage hikes.  And note the last line – Mickey D is also in the kiosk business (I’ve seen a few there myself).

Of course to anyone with common sense and a basic understanding of economics (you know, like labor is a “cost” to business) this comes as no surprise.  To the “feel the Bern” crowd, and many on the left who lack both of those qualities, this is an “outrage”!

Meh.  It’s kind of like ObamaCare insurance – you may have it, but if doctors won’t accept it, it’s not much use to you is it?  Same with $15 an hour times zero hours.

Meanwhile in academia, the stronghold of bureaucratic authoritarians, it seems they look for any opportunity to ban an action unilaterally for no other reason than they fear someone’s feelings (other than those effected by the ban, of course) will possibly be hurt:

Face painting at an Illinois college has been banned because it’s “cultural appropriation,” dontchya know? There’s just one problem: Which culture?

Because it’s the latest thing to be offended by, officials at Millikin University in Decatur have told a fraternity that they can’t wear face or body paint, or wigs because they might “depict an ethnicity or culture.”

The fraternity, Tau Kappa Epsilon, traditionally puts on body and face paint during an annual recruitment for new members, CampusReform is reporting.

Yup, my blue-faced, bare assed Scots ancestors would surely be offended.  Oh, wait, they’re white aren’t they?  Never mind:

“Millikin University is committed to fostering a community of inclusiveness that respects difference amongst all students,” Nicki Rowlett, assistant director of the Office of Inclusion and Student Engagement, writes in a letter on the issue. “It is my hope that the men of [Tau Kappa Epsilon] utilize this as an educational opportunity to explore the concept of intent vs. impact with regard to cultural appropriation.”

“Members [of the fraternity] are prohibited from wearing black and red paint, wigs and/or clothing items that mimic or depict an ethnicity or culture,” she writes. “Failure to comply with the expectation will result in immediate removal from the event and additional student conduct sanctions.”

Prohibited by some small-time bureaucrat with the jumped up title of “Assistant Director/Greek Advisor, Office of Student Inclusion and Engagement”.

Her words are quite “inclusive” and just ooze “student engagement” don’t they – in a petty, dictatorial way.  “Off with the face paint. The mighty Nichole has spoken!”

What a farce.

Apparently it is no longer about the “country” in politics, but instead, the party:

In 1960, 5% of Republicans and 4% of Democrats said that they would feel “displeased” if their son or daughter married outside their political party. By 2010, those numbers skyrocketed: to 49% and 33%, respectively. We’re probably not yet at the point where Republicans would be more upset if their child married a Democrat than someone of the same sex — but we are heading in that direction.

I’m sure you’ve all noticed how party politics seems to eclipse what is really important about where we’re headed.  It’s all about winning now and it’s all about the party winning.  I’ve been asking for years, “where did all the statesmen go”.  We’ll we drove them off with the anal exams and the insistence that the party deliver certain things whether or not they were good for the country or not.

That has gotten decidedly worse over the intervening decades to the point that we’re now governed by the worst political class I’ve ever seen in my lifetime and we’re stuck with the inevitable candidates that system was bound to finally produce.

Enjoy!

Speaking of our political class (or lack thereof), there’s a book coming out supposedly written anonymously by a sitting member of Congress (purportedly a Democrat) who uses that anonymity to tell the “truth” about what happens there, like:

  • “Most of my colleagues are dishonest career politicians who revel in the power and special-interest money that’s lavished upon them.”
  • “My main job is to keep my job, to get reelected. It takes precedence over everything.”
  • “Fundraising is so time consuming I seldom read any bills I vote on. Like many of my colleagues, I don’t know how the legislation will be implemented, or what it’ll cost.”

Those three quotes might shock someone but it was simply an affirmation for me.  We’ve seen this for years and years and have done absolutely nothing but re-elect these crooks.  And they know they’ll bet re-elected because they haven’t underestimated their esteemed constituents/voters one bit:

  • “The average man on the street actually thinks he influences how I vote. Unless it’s a hot-button issue, his thoughts are generally meaningless. I’ll politely listen, but I follow the money.”
  • “Voters are incredibly ignorant and know little about our form of government and how it works.”
  • “It’s far easier than you think to manipulate a nation of naive, self-absorbed sheep who crave instant gratification.”

Yes, he (or she) is saying exactly what many of us have known for years – this government and those who run it are a product of the voting public – one which has no use for freedom and no time to monitor and overwatch those they put in positions of power.  Result?  A huge but visibly declining banana republic.

Finally, the transgender nonsense the government seems bound and determined to cram down everyone’s throats.  Is it a real “civil rights” dilemma or is it a mental health issue?

Frankly, I go with the latter.  Here’s why:

There are several reasons for this absence of coherence in our mental health system. Important among them is the fact that both the state and federal governments are actively seeking to block any treatments that can be construed as challenging the assumptions and choices of transgendered youngsters. “As part of our dedication to protecting America’s youth, this administration supports efforts to ban the use of conversion therapy for minors,” said Valerie Jarrett, a senior advisor to President Obama.

In two states, a doctor who would look into the psychological history of a transgendered boy or girl in search of a resolvable conflict could lose his or her license to practice medicine. By contrast, such a physician would not be penalized if he or she started such a patient on hormones that would block puberty and might stunt growth.

What is needed now is public clamor for coherent science—biological and therapeutic science—examining the real effects of these efforts to “support” transgendering. Although much is made of a rare “intersex” individual, no evidence supports the claim that people such as Bruce Jenner have a biological source for their transgender assumptions. Plenty of evidence demonstrates that with him and most others, transgendering is a psychological rather than a biological matter.

In fact, gender dysphoria—the official psychiatric term for feeling oneself to be of the opposite sex—belongs in the family of similarly disordered assumptions about the body, such as anorexia nervosa and body dysmorphic disorder. Its treatment should not be directed at the body as with surgery and hormones any more than one treats obesity-fearing anorexic patients with liposuction. The treatment should strive to correct the false, problematic nature of the assumption and to resolve the psychosocial conflicts provoking it. With youngsters, this is best done in family therapy.

Dr. Paul McHugh wrote that.  He also wrote this:

For forty years as the University Distinguished Service Professor of Psychiatry at Johns Hopkins Medical School—twenty-six of which were also spent as Psychiatrist in Chief of Johns Hopkins Hospital—I’ve been studying people who claim to be transgender. Over that time, I’ve watched the phenomenon change and expand in remarkable ways.

And this:

 Transgendered men do not become women, nor do transgendered women become men. All (including Bruce Jenner) become feminized men or masculinized women, counterfeits or impersonators of the sex with which they “identify.” In that lies their problematic future.

That’s the root of the problem.  It has now become politicized and is a political football for a radical agenda and the government is attempting to satisfy this radical minority (and I don’t necessarily mean the “transgendered”) by imposing that agenda by force.

Me?  I’ll go with McHugh and science.

Have a good weekend!

~McQ

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48 Responses to Stray Voltage

  • With the “biggest narcissist in the room” doing free pandering, anything can happen.

  • On the impact of minimum wage on employment: The original Progressive purpose of minimum wage and living wage was to exclude the unworthy from the workplace.

  • Some quick numbers: Assume one kiosk station open 365 days a year, 18 hours a day, costing about $22/hour in costs (since $15/hour is only salary, not costs). That comes out to $150,000/year to keep a kiosk station open.

    There is no way anything but the very first generation of kiosks cost even $150,000. The hardware is off-the-shelf and the price of it has been plunging. The software is not that hard to write. The hardware will require some maintenance, but not much, and if you’ve got 3 installed at a location and one goes bad it’s not even an emergency, so you only need a handful of employees covering an entire region to keep these things maintained. The hardware is so cheap they may not even attempt to “repair” the kiosks but just get in, swap ’em out wholesale, and get out. There is no way these kiosks don’t pay themselves back in under a year; anyone with business experience knows you don’t get that offer very often. The kiosks are utterly inevitable.

    By the same analysis, you’re looking at between 0.5 to 5 million dollars a year working in the kitchen of a McDonalds, depending on the size. Right now robots can’t quite do it. Almost, but not quite. But they’re up to working prototypes in the field which means they’re pretty far along the tech curve. Once they start getting deployed in bulk, again, there’s no way it’s going to cost $5 million in robots to run a restaurant except maybe in the very, very first generation. Payback in less than a year.

    So, furthermore, once the robots do work, given the cost advantages they are literally going to be deployed as fast as the factories can build them. So, basically, the numbers say that literally any month now, fast food jobs are going to begin a multi-month process of total destruction. May be six months, may be 3 or 4 years, but once it starts it’ll be fast. Raising the minimum wage merely advances the process, but even without that it would happen anyhow. The economics are unstoppable.

    • Be even easier to make the kiosks modular. If one is beyond a simple tweak, swap it out and send the defective Kiosk back for repair.

    • There is no way anything but the very first generation of kiosks cost even $150,000.

      Even the first generation would be a lot cheaper than that. The kiosk is basically a touchscreen panel with some software behind it. That’s basically what every video slot machine in every casino in the world is using. An entire slot machine with a much bigger footprint and a LOT more development behind it runs about $15,000. Seriously, if I were to start a business right now coding and selling these kiosks, I’d put the price point pretty low. The hardware cost is well below $1000, and even given the limited market for such equipment, I can’t imagine one unit would sell for more than about $5,000. A whole point-of-sale system, with all the software behind it, including inventory tracking and sales analysis will run on the order of $30K.

  • Every living member of Tau Kappa Epsilon should show up painted, wigged, and costumed, with their lawyers.

    I never knew a person raised on a farm or ranch who followed “gender confusion” thinking. In plants and animals, any such individuals have a term: culls.

    It isn’t so much “party” that divides us, but ideology, and that’s not wrong. I’d disapprove a son or daughter marrying a Deemocrat because I could predict they would be unhappy and their relationship would break over crazy/stupid thinking and a hard disjunction of values.

  • What happens the first time some morons decide to do something untoward to a “biologically female, identifying as male” student that is changing in the locker room or going to the bathroom in a boy’s lavatory? I am not encouraging or hoping that this happens, but I know enough about teenaged boys and how they think (or don’t think as happens more often) to know that this will end very badly for people. In a perfect world, nobody would care about which locker room or bathroom a person uses, but we don’t live in that world and to try and act like we do will only result in tragedy.

  • The transgender fear and bigotry coming from the right are losers for the GOP. Just like with gay marriage, they don’t realize that the culture has already changed completely with the youth and when the old folk die out the anti-transgender bigotry we see now will look as odd as how the south was so racist in the sixties (and the south always seems to lag in times of cultural change). Kiosks are good – technology will finally free us from the need to work most of our lives in order to survive. People often have little time to learn and spend time on quality of life, many throw themselves into a career and let it define them – a rather sad existence. The key will be to let the benefits of technology be spread across society and not concentrated on the wealthy elite. Heading with students to Germany, so I’ll not be able to keep up any conversation on this. I have to figure out how to explain Trump to the Germans…

    • The first thing that I see recognizing is in order help a tiny minority fantasize they aren’t the gender they were born with, we are handing predators a whole new avenue of sexual assault opportunities with a bow on it.

      I will imagine such reports will be suppressed until it becomes too difficult to suppress it. Then something will be done and I expect somehow the people who don’t want this in the first place will be blamed then too.

    • Just tell ‘ze germans’ that people like you helped cause Trump. They’ll understand.

    • You recline into your laughable phoniness, Scott, like it’s a deep foam cushion.

    • Tell ya what skippy, imagine in your new society who’s going to pay for your trip, and the student trips.
      You know, in that society where people don’t need to work most of our lives in order to survive.

      I guess the people doing really productive work (hint, that would not really be you) won’t ever resent you and your students taking your trips to Germany huh.
      Or people who literally risk their lives in their jobs, police, fire, emergency response, high rise construction, etc, they won’t ever resent a portion of their productivity going towards paying the way of a geopolitical expert like yourself for trips a couple times of year to Europe while they risk their lives day to day here in dullsville.

      You, buddy, still have a tremendous amount to learn, at a late point in your life, about human nature.
      And the more you and people like you flounce around spinning your fantasies, the more eager I am for you to learn about it.

      • I’m doing the hard work of helping shape the culture and prepare young people for the amazing world they’ll encounter. I look at this generation and despite the silliness that gets cherry picked for this blog, the youth give me a lot of faith and optimism for the future. I describe a bit of that as beyond ideology. We all have lessons to learn every day we’re on this planet, but at age 56 I look at the life I’ve built for myself, the experiences I’ve had, the people close to me and I think, “damn, it’s a job well done!” Though I suspect I’ve got a lot of creative, effective years ahead! OK, I have to pack…I always put that off to the last minute.

        • Well in your experiences be sure to explain that some of your more ambitious creative students may be opening their wallets to some of your less ambitious, lazy students.
          Give us a report on how the optimistic youth of the future respond to that.

        • “I’m doing the hard work”

          LOL. Being a college professor is, at most, a part-time sinecure. If you had actually done any “hard work” in your life you would know it. Spend a summer (or winter) working construction or on a farm instead of traveling to Europe and then tell us about “hard work”.

          Bourgeois pseudo-intellectual putz.

          • Hard at work in the reading fields.
            Toil toil toil, slave slave slave, read read read – so many Islamic intellectuals to read about, so many references to Aquinas to note, so many trip/courses to Europe.
            And classes! Don’t even get me started about work!
            On Monday, Wednesday and Friday there’s his 10:00 class on “the many Failings and Faults of America in the world” and one at 14:00 on “The affects of the new century on post WWII silly conservative values”.
            And then, hell days on Tuesday and Thursday – an hour and a half lecture at 10:30 on “The effects of quantum thinking on technology” with an hour class for post grads on “Star Trek, Transporter Technology and the effect on the Arugula supply” at 2:30.
            He can barely eat lunch!

            Life is harrrrrrrrd.

    • What’s always fun is to juxtapose your very real regional bigotry against the South with the illusory bigotry you impose, without any justification, on people who are neither “afraid of” or bigoted toward transgendered people.

      We don’t care, in the main. Not until they, like others in our society, impose their problems on us and insist they are “victims” with special “rights”. They are sick people with a pathology, like the racist snowflakes of Black Lives Matter. That isn’t on us. We’re always ready to live and let live. But, of course, that isn’t the order of the day. “You will be made to CARE”, and THAT by BIG GOVERNMENT edict.

      Working is a great benefit, not a burden. I’m not a bit surprised you’re confused by this, being the Collectivist puke we all know and loath. How ironic that you, who take such inordinate pride in your “work”, should denounce it as a shaping force in the lives of other humans.

      Please, do the German people a great favor, and DO NOT EXPLAIN anything to them. They have their own problems to deal with, and they don’t need a Collectivist bigot from Moosesqueeze U to impart bullshit from across the Atlantic. Just STFU, and enjoy your little junket in silence.

      • That’s old thinking – the idea that work is the main purpose in life. Technology is rendering it obsolete – look at how much the information revolution has changed every aspect of life and the global economy. There will be some difficulties in the transition, but we’re literally entering a new era – it’s sort of fun to see the opening stages.

        • Keep believing this.

          Some day you will wakeup and you will be owned by the Chinese and Indians.
          How’s your Hanyu and Hindi ?

          Point of interest, they believe that work is the main purpose in life.

        • Technology is rendering it obsolete

          Technology may be alleviating many forms of physical labor, but it is not eliminating the need for work. You still have to produce something of value in order to exchange that for the food, drink, shelter, and clothing you need to survive. Societies have found that money is easier than a barter system, so you end up trading what you produce for money, and then trade money for whatever you want. Technology will never replace that.

          Look at it this way: if no one worked, where would all the food and energy come from? Where would houses come from? Where would clothing come from?

          • That model is becoming obsolete. There will still be the need for work, but much less – and people will have more time to devote to the higher pursuits of life – art, philosophy, creativity, social interactions, friendships, etc. So many people live hypnotized lives, caught up in a work grind they think is important, then finding moments of distraction before suddenly it’s over. It’s the curse of this age; a cage, though often at least a gilded cage. Look beyond the next decade or two, see the trajectory of society. Huxley had a dark vision of where that could lead. I think we’re just starting to leave what will be seen as the ancient pre-history of human kind.

          • Look at it this way: if no one worked, where would all the food and energy come from?

            Scott’s answer is pretty much “let them eat cake”.

          • In Scott’s flowchart for the future there’s at least one box that all his grand dreams pass through that is labeled, “miracle occurs here”.

            Having no clue on how to produce anything of passing value it’s all magical economics to him. Where moon pony wishes replace millennia of evolution and all cultures and work ethics embrace his view of the future for fear of being labeled old fashion.

            The hard wall he meets with the Indians, the Koreans or the Chinese will be as good as any Wiley Coyote cartoon.

          • Erp, you self-satisfied mow-ron!!! You intone that bullshit like you are some kind of prescient futurist.

            ANYBODY aware of the Industrial and Agricultural Revolutions KNOWS that we spend less of our time “working”, and MORE of our time “not working”.

            Duh.

            But there is no “old model” that’s “obsolete”. We are simply MORE productive than ever before. This is the triumph of market economics, BTW. Technical innovation COMES from markets.

            There is no “new model” where the need to produce will be “obsolete”. What kind of economics idiot are you, seriously?

          • I am a prescient futurist Rags, I’m psychic. Now move your coffee a bit to the left or it’ll spill.

          • You aren’t reading carefully. It’s not NO work, but work will be a minor part of life, as technology will produce most everything. We’ll need to maintain the technology and do other things, but won’t be anything like 40 hours a week!

          • That model is becoming obsolete.

            No, it’s not. Technology has changed the way we work for over 150 years, going back to the early Industrial Age. But it hasn’t changed that we work.

            Regardless of anything else, a human being has basic needs: food, clothing, and shelter. Those all have to come from somewhere, they don’t just fall out of the sky like rain. And as long as something must be produced, there must be people to produce it. And as long as people produce things, they will want to be compensated for their production; if they aren’t compensated, they will stop producing. And in order to compensate the producers, the consumers will need to create something of value in exchange.

            Yet another reason why I don’t take you seriously: you don’t think past the end of your nose.

          • Won’t be 40 hours –
            It’ll be whatever is required to produce something that can be exchanged for something else.

            You should take note that big business wants more cheap labor, and hence this insanity of pretending we don’t have a border.
            They aren’t offering these people fewer hours than they work in Guatemala, they’re offering them more pay for the hours they work where that is lower pay than what a citizen would insist on, and what the government would force a business to pay a citizen.

            One group of idiots thinks driving the cost of labor up by forcing an increase in minimum wages will result in everyone having a job and lots of cash, the other is trying to drive wage prices down by glutting the market with readily available cheap labor that will want it’s living space filled with 1st world stuff.
            Neither side apparently comprehends what the results will be if they are successful.

            The minimum wage idiots aren’t even close to being correct about the effect their policy is ( already having) going to have.

            On the Chamber of Commerce side, one can at least argue the sellers plan on selling their cheaper products to the millions of third worlders who are coming to and living in the first world, without having to export the products. They’ve decided it’s a grand idea to bring the third world to the US, extract their cheap labor, and market to them here, which actually makes sense, but can only work for a short term. They’ll need housing, food, clothing, a car for papa and a nice shiny washer/dryer combo for mama, plus phones, electric, etc. Eventually in theory they’ll drive the current citizenry down to the status of the immigrants and we can all be lower income together.
            Corporate America has long given up on the long term view and has been all about the gains they can make in the next 2 quarters by slitting their our throats and selling the blood to blood banks, because Wall Street is only about the Benjamen’s baby.

            They’re not worried, they’re just the elite conservative form of you – they plan to be insulated from their idocy by their accumulated wealth.

          • Ah; Steverino, being taken seriously by you is hardly one of my life ambitions. I teach a first year seminar on the future – we actually start by reading Huxley’s “Brave New World,” and spend the rest of the time looking at changes in technology and what it means. We are literally on the border of epochal change. As technology becomes able to do almost ALL of the menial labor (factories, mining, etc.), the very nature of work and the economy changes. The best fictional vision probably is in Star Trek, where that was a core assumption of the series. Without having to devote so much time on just surviving – or having “things”to play with (distractions that tend to stop people from thinking about the true meaning of their existence), we’ll better explore how to appreciate life and the world. Only the wealthy can do that now (and I definitely put myself in that category – my .isteaching, which I love with a passion – especially now as I’m with 14 students heading to Germany). It’s an exciting era to observe – and the massive cultural changes on gay marriages, transgender rights, etc., are also just the start of a process. It’s not left or right, it’s humanity in transition!

          • Well moron, when you have the Star Trek transporter technology that allows energy to matter conversion (and vice versa), let us know.
            Till then we’re going to have to continue to labor in the fields, or on the machines that work on the machines that work on the machines that labor in the field.

            If you’re going to have a fantasy, be brave, go back further and assume that the Krell give us their creation by thought machine and wind things down with the attendant results.

          • This idea that actually having to work for a living is becoming obsolete is pure rubbish.
            I work for a large, well-known multi-national company (who will remain nameless) and I can tell you that now have to working harder, smarter and, with the aid of communications, around the clock.

            I recently stumbled unto a truth that even I should have known but really tried to ignore.
            Currently, there are multiple, probably hundreds of, openings for highly skilled engineers in Silicon Valley with salaries in the six figure range but they are for “senior” positions for person already having the “skills.”.
            All the “junior” engineers that feed into becoming these “senior” positions are now almost exclusively in China and India. So, Americans only have a relatively short period until all those jobs are in China and India .. and then VietNam.

          • There was a piece about 5 reason that the Star Trek transporter technology won’t work .. or at least is incredibly dangerous.

            #5 was that the amount of energy contained within the atoms of the average person, during the matter to energy conversion, is enough to “blow up the entire Earth”.

            Some truths are truly inconvenient.

          • In unicorn pony world we won’t have to worry about the matter/energy conversion going wonky and turning the planet into another asteroid belt. Because, science.
            We’ll have solved all that in our huge free time which will be spent in meaningful pursuits like contemplation of the meaning of existence and appreciating our lives, and the world.

            What a drag it’s going to be if someone proves we’re a trick of the universe and there isn’t any meaning eh? Do you suppose the percentage of pleasant suicides will rise tremendously when someone demonstrates we’re merely a random electron sized gnat on the ass of a creature the size of the sun? Because, you know, we’re going to have all that time to contemplate the meaning of our existence. Never mind if their conclusion is as valid as Al Gore’s “Inconvenient Truth”.

            Since we won’t be fighting over possessions, food, or water, all of which will be provided by the instrumentality, we’ll be reduced to fighting over possession of other women/men/transgender thingies, and scenic geographic locations for our awesome free homes filled with our awesome free stuff.

            Who wants to enjoy all their free cool stuff on the downslope of Mt. Trashmore when other people have a sweet place with a view of the Grand Canyon or the Swiss Alps?
            Will we appreciate the world, and our lives?
            Or will most of us spend our times zoned out with whatever pharmaceuticals we’ll have discovered that keep us high without any serious negative side effects (especially after we discover the meaning of existence….)

            Like I said, our boy skippy is a really really lousy student of human nature.
            He should ask himself why so many people who are merely or impossibly rich, and can have anything, keep dropping dead from various modes of excess.

          • Maybe, just maybe, someone should leaven his fantasy reading with “The Machine Stops” instead of just reading “Star Trek”.

          • Work is “the application of reason to solve the problem of survival.”

            People who envision ubiquitous flying cars, interstellar travel, and a population elevated above the need to engage in work simply don’t understand physics, math, or human nature.

            While it makes for entertaining fiction, reality has a way of foiling simplistic notions. And, while I’d give credit to authors and producers who devise original ideas. Scott, on the other hand, lacks even the imagination and experience to do anything but reference more common, simplistic fiction, much less any novel ideas of his own.

            Too many smug-stupid remarks to enumerate. Ott Scerb would need to be increasingly absurd to distinguish himself as parody, rather than an imitation.

          • Good grief. Speaking of “old thinking”. Did you cut and paste that or is it memorized by now?

            Spoken (I should probably say quoted) by a man who has never had to do any of the actual work that needs to be done to maintain a civilization.

          • “I teach a first year seminar”

            Must be a really intellectually stimulating and challenging course. Freshmen are so well prepared for such deep discussion.

            I used to love courses like that. “Bull” sessions for credit. No real work or learning involved.

          • As technology becomes able to do almost ALL of the menial labor (factories, mining, etc.), the very nature of work and the economy changes.

            You are basically repeating what I have already said: technology has changed the way we work. But you do little to refute my other point: that it hasn’t changed the fact that we still work.

            The best fictional vision probably is in Star Trek, where that was a core assumption of the series.

            You completely misunderstand what’s going on in Star Trek if you think that. In Star Trek, they eliminated scarcity, not work. There was an unlimited amount of energy that could be converted to any form of matter. So, nothing was scarce (except maybe dilithium crystals), and no one had to exchange anything of value to gain the necessities of life.

            In reality, however, scarcity has not been eliminated. And it will not be eliminated, not ever. As long as things are finite, people will have to do some kind of work to produce something of value to trade for the things they want.

      • Oh and to your last point, I make sure to always give my wisdom and do everything I can to counter folk like you. I think my side is winning! 😉 OK, gotta pack.

        • Little white kids huh, cause the Asians would slap your stupid ideas right out of their deluded little heads once they got home from college.

        • He’s just trolling here. It was about the Germans, and his pollution of their minds with his T-rump “explanation”.

          I’m sure the aware German will piss on him the same as we do.

          With GUSTO…!!!

        • “I think my side is winning!”

          Heheheheh you sound vaguely familiar.

          “There are no American infidels in Baghdad. Never!
          Search for the truth. I tell you things and I always ask you to verify what I say. I told you yesterday that there was an attack and a retreat at Saddam’s airport.”

    • Hey skippy – while you’re explaining to the Germans, maybe you can get them to explain the dramatic uptick in their purchase of personal side arms.

      Why do you suppose that is? Maybe because they’re afraid they’re going to have to embrace the many new arrivals with…concealed…arms.

      “In 2014, the number of ‘small weapons licence’ applications was 2,379, a number which doubled to 5,748 in 2015…
      However, in 2016, the numbers have already more than doubled, with 7,435 new licences were given out in February and 4,677 in March.

      Thank God those Germans are so much more enlightened about immigration than we are huh skippy.
      Be sure you figure out how to explain that to us when you get back, it should be hilarious.

  • “So class of 2016, let me be as clear as I can be: in politics and in life, ignorance is not a virtue. It’s not cool to not know what you’re talking about. That’s not keeping it real, or telling it like it is. That’s not challenging political correctness. That’s just not knowing what you’re talking about.” — Barack Obama

    Keep in mind that Mr Obama surely thinks his new “bathroom rule” is challenging political correctness.

    You and I may think otherwise, but to many Progressives, they are challenging political correctness. I’m not sure if it’s projection or simply having their values completely backwards.

    It often reminds me of my grandmother. Her doctors told her that condiments, like salt and pepper, were going to kill her. I’m sure the doctors were referring to salt, but she liked salt, so she figured it must be pepper. She lived to 94.

  • While Erb needs get what he has coming to him, he’s not wrong in that the whole issue is a loser. It’s portrayal is straight out of the same book gay marriage used. We can’t win it – not because we’re wrong (we aren’t) but because the deck is stacked.

    The issue is stupid, pathetic and ultimately a distraction from bigger issues.

    Take the loss, do as I do and tell your sons to always use the female locker/bathroom facilities at school and move on.

    • Are you going to feel that way when a 45 year old man not even in lipstick promptly charges into the bathroom the moment after your daughter enters? Because in Michigan they are talking virtual no standard in the claim of being a girl in schools, I can only expect the no standard approach is definite for adult. It can hit you that moment and then pass, no history, no proof of your transgender state and it will be ok for you to use a girl’s bathroom. You just need to stick to your lie..