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How should the GOP respond to the Obama demand for increased taxes?

I have a pretty good idea, but first, here’s the gist of the demand:

President Obama pressured Republicans on Wednesday to accept higher taxes as part of any plan to pare down the federal deficit, bluntly telling lawmakers that they “need to do their job” and strike a deal before the United States risks defaulting on its debt.

Declaring that an agreement is not possible without painful steps on both sides, Mr. Obama said that his party had already accepted the need for substantial spending cuts in programs it had long championed, and that Republicans must agree to end tax breaks for oil and gas companies, hedge funds and other corporate interests.

So how should the Republicans answer this demand?

Well, as I mentioned in my post about why the GOP should stand firm on declining to raise taxes, the problem isn’t tax revenue.  It is, quite simply, spending.

What the Democrats and Obama will promise you is they’d use any increased revenue brought in by increased taxes to reduce the deficit and debt.  But that is never how it really works and we know that.  It’s like giving an alcoholic another shot – he’s going to drink it.  Revenue isn’t the problem.  Spending is the problem.

So what the GOP must do is say, “Mr. President, when the government has proven that it can indeed cut spending and cut it drastically, and it has done everything it can conceivably do in that regard, if there is a revenue problem at the bottom of it, then we can discuss tax increases.  But until such a time that it is proven – through action, you know actual cuts – that the government has done all it can in the area of spending cuts, there’s nothing further to discuss in terms of tax increases.”

Period.

~McQ

Twitter: @McQandO

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13 Responses to How should the GOP respond to the Obama demand for increased taxes?

  • Great answer, McQ, and I’d love to see it carved into stone on the steps of the Capitol.

    What’s difficult to ascertain is whether this crowd is spending the way it does because it thinks such spending will somehow be efficacious, or whether they’re deliberately trying to run the country into the ground. Not sure that it makes a difference; if we still have double digit inflation come next November, Barry’s chances will be small.

  • This is prompted form the need to raise the debt ceiling again.  I believe the Democrats argument on that one is that if we don’t raise the debt ceiling immediately, the country will default on its debt obligations.  (you have to just marvel at that one really) 

    The problem with that claim is that there’s enough income from withholding to make our debt payments.  It would be the Congress (Senate) choosing to keep funding other programs instead of making the debt payments which would be the cause of us defaulting.  Not a lack of revenue. 

  • McQ“Mr. President, when the government has proven that it can indeed cut spending and cut it drastically, and it has done everything it can conceivably do in that regard, if there is a revenue problem at the bottom of it, then we can discuss tax increases.  But until such a time that it is proven – through action, you know actual cuts – that the government has done all it can in the area of spending cuts, there’s nothing further to discuss in terms of tax increases.”


    I’d go even more fundamental than that:

    Mr. President, until you submit a budget that will get even ONE vote in the Senate OR get the majority party – which you allegedly lead – to publicly submit a budget of their own, you have nothing to say on this subject.  We, however, say this:

    — We refuse to be hectored about fiscal responsibility by a man who has driven up the national debt by trillions of dollars in two years and, as a consequence, brought us to the brink of a financial calamity the likes of which we have never seen in our history. 

    — We refuse to be lectured and bullied about our responsibilities by a man who behaves less like the leader of our country and more like a shabby street corner rabble-rouser, pitching insults, half-truths and outright lies about our position even while he refuses to offer concrete proposals of his own.

    — We refuse to conduct budget ‘negotiations’ with the Vice President behind closed doors while you spend your time on the golf course, attending reelection fundraisers, or traveling on vacation.

    — We refuse to accept the idea that government must never spend less or that the prosperity of our people depends on government programs and government spending.

    — We refuse to allow you to demonize business owners who actually make things and hire people or the investors who provide them with capital as “the rich” who should have their money taken from them to pay for your reckless spending.

    — We refuse to tell the American people, suffering under the crushing burden of a recession that your policies have prolonged and made worse, that we must have MORE of their money so that it can be wasted as you wasted nearly $800 billions with your flawed ‘stimulus’ bill two years ago. 

    — Finally, we refuse to further burden our children and grandchildren with more debt to pay for more and more extravagent spending. 

    Mr. President, our country faces a real crisis.  You have not only failed to solve it, you have made it worse.  We will not allow you to continue on this path, and we will not allow you to – as is your custom – lie about the cause or shift the blame from your shoulders where it clearly belongs.  We have had enough of lying.  We have had enough of bullying.  We have had enough of gimics.  We have had enough of ‘voting present’.  We demand that you actually do your job and help us solve this problem.  Otherwise, we demand that you resign and allow Vice President Biden – God help us – to try to do what you show neither the inclination or the competence to do: honorably and faithfully discharge the office of President of the United States.”

    • That’s also a great point- what is it, approaching 600 days without a Democrat budget from the Senate?

    • Perhaps that should have read …

      Republicans pressured President Obama on Wednesday to accept lower spedning as part of any plan to pare down the federal deficit, the lawmakers bluntly telling President that they “you need to find one thing that you are willing to cut without the smoke and mirrors” and strike a deal before the United States risks defaulting on its debt.

  • docjim when and where are you running for office.
    I will be glad to contribute to your campaign!

    • That’s very kind of you, but BELIEVE ME that you don’t want me running much of anything.

      Not that being a member of Congress doesn’t have its attractions: lots of money, fancy office with a huge staff to do your work for you, people kissing your a** all day, travel to lots of places on the government dime while conducting “investigations”, don’t have to do much real work, sexy interns and staff, get out of jail free card, being able to get really good-paying jobs for realtives, friends, and “special friends”, all the drugs, alcohol and hookers that you want, being able to bully and insult people on camera, being able to get away with telling the most outrageous lies you can think of, being considered smart no matter how f*cking stupid you may actually be, etc.

      Hmmm…. Now I’m starting to understand why they work so hard to keep their phony-baloney jobs!

  • As long as the emotionally-appealing “we can fix things by raising taxes on the rich” fiction continues, the Democrats will not seriously cut spending. They would rather keep redefining the “rich” to ever lower levels, keep on raising more money, and keep on doling it out to maintain power.* They can count on the media wing of their movement to push that propaganda, and until its failure is reflected unambiguously at the ballot box, they won’t change.

    Financial collapse per se won’t make them change. They’ll still be eating luxury food, living in palatial accommodations, and bossing the country around. If it doesn’t touch them personally, financial problems will never be the impetus for Democrats to stop spending money, and maybe not even then.

    Negotiating with them on this is pointless. Their view of reality is too warped. Anything they would accept will not fix the problem, and might not even delay it.

    (*) Sometimes I wonder if they themselves believe the nonsense they spout about fixing the problem by soaking the rich.

    • Billy HollisAs long as the emotionally-appealing “we can fix things by raising taxes on the rich” fiction continues…

      This has come to increasingly bother me.  I like to think that Americans on the whole have a good sense of fair play and have come to increasingly understand the evils of bigotry, of “we vs. they”, and of preying on other people just because of how they look or dress or what god they worship.  Americans certainly seem to understand the evils of theft and fraud.

      So, why is it that it’s OK to take money from people because they are “rich”?  People would be outraged if we were proposing to “soak the Jews” or “soak the blacks” or “soak the left-handed people whose first name begins with one of the letters A through M inclusive.”

      The attitude that allows one to hurt or punish some group of people is ugly, dangerous, and un-American.  Maybe we can make slaves of the rich?  Or kill off 90% of them and herd the rest onto reservations?  Force them into “relocation camps”?

      Bah.

  • See McQ, what you wrote is ever so much more sensible and smart than the two word response I would’ve suggested  :)

    I seriously hope they take that advice because if ever the public can be persuaded on this issue, it is now. 

  • “Mr. Obama said that his party had already accepted the need for substantial spending cuts in programs it had long championed”

    How nice. And just when will they actually make these spending cuts? Which programs? How much? I’m not holding my breath.

  • How should the GOP respond to the Obama demand for increased taxes?

    I accept that I am not the soul of comity.  That said, my answer would only require a single extended digit.
    m|n
    Regardless of how the GOP answers, the people need to answer.  “No.”

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