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“Farewell sex” to be legal as Arab Spring continues to flower in Egypt

I’ll just put this up here with minimal comment and let you folks provide the narrative:

Egyptian husbands will soon be legally allowed to have sex with their dead wives – for up to six hours after their death.

The controversial new law is part of a raft of measures being introduced by the Islamist-dominated parliament.

It will also see the minimum age of marriage lowered to 14 and the ridding of women’s rights of getting education and employment.

Yup, much better than before.  A veritable leap into the 21st century, no?  Definitely a secular and liberal triumph, right?

Oh … and out of curiosity, what if he waits till 7 hours after death, what happens?

~McQ

Twitter: @McQandO

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39 Responses to “Farewell sex” to be legal as Arab Spring continues to flower in Egypt

  • This reminds me of the great Australian band that’s been around since the early ’80s, Hoodoo Gurus:

  • Proving you’ll be able to do what you want with your property under the new freedom in Egypt.

  • Oh … and out of curiosity, what if he waits till 7 hours after death, what happens?

    off with it’s head!

  • Oh … and out of curiosity, what if he waits till 7 hours after death, what happens?

    off with it’s head!

  • They should mandate that all men can only have sex with corpses…..this way they can’t breed

  • Not that I have any evidence, but what comes to mind is that this law could be another way out for abusive husbands. If a woman resists her husband and he rapes her, any threat of going to the police and making the rejection public knowledge could be taken care of by killing her, with any injuries being explained by ‘farewell sex’.

  • The comments are pretty funny.

    Islam is a very legalistic religion where people ask their Imam what’s acceptable and what is not…so probably one idiot asked this question and got an answer and now its “case law.” I don’t think this is actually a popular pasttime anywhere.

    • @Harun I don’t either, but it’s now given the Egyptians a new label for themselves, I was just sitting having my morning coffee thinking how the very discussion of such a question, such an issue, will be a brand on the Egyptians in the civilized and even ‘uncivilized’ world. It’s one thing to ask your imam, that’s bad enough, to carry it forward and discuss it at a national level as a potential law?

      • @looker That discussion never took place in the parliament or outside it! People here were shocked by this claim made by unreliable sources.

    • @Harun I will say, if even 1 in every 100 was doing it, their society needs to be stamped flat. I put this up there with human sacrifice.

    • @Harun If some yahoo asked an Imam about having a wild time with a goat, would that be up in front of their legislature for discussion as a national law? And seriously, how could an Imam say “yes Achmed, it is okay if the body is still warm”, really? Can Imam’s be dis-Imamed?

      • @looker This is part of the problem…the imams are all self-appointed to some extent.

        • @Harun that was my understanding, and in my humble opinion is part of a problem. Self appointed Rulings like this and no ‘church police’ to go round and rid Islam of this meddlesome cleric.

  • Legalized necrophilia is one thing but they did say “The controversial new law is part of a raft of measures being introduced by the Islamist-dominated parliament.”
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    What other “good and necessary” laws are being floated on this raft, do you think, if zombie-sex is one of them???

  • Its definitely not Islam. Sleeping with the dead is totally forbidden in Islam. The prophet had said whoever brings an innovation into the religion, he is not part of us and it will not be accepted from him. Thehey hav passed the law out of their desires bt not based on the religion of prophet muhammad.

    • @miijaan Maybe the Imams got a twitter via MyFacebookSpace saying this was OK. Good and necessary. Watch and learn.

    • Again, that’s the report and the report includes quotes from Egyptians opposed to the idea (and law). So they seemingly believe the reports to be true. Obviously it is being reported as one of a raft of laws being considered. Whether or not it sees the light of day is obviously debatable and probably for the reasons you cite. But that doesn’t mean it isn’t being put up for consideration.

  • That’s so untrue! What is the source of this information? Is there a photo, a video or an audio recording? Of course not! Simply because this never happened and will never happen! Doesn’t the writer know that husbands aren’t allowed to have sex with their wives during the times of their periods? How can anyone believe this repulsive claim to be true? I guess this is only an action of demagogy (Google it if you don’t know).

    • @MostafaBakoush The controversy about a husband having sex with his dead wife came about after a Moroccan cleric spoke about the issue in May 2011.

      Zamzami Abdul Bari said that marriage remains valid even after death adding that a woman also too had the same right to engage in sex with her dead husband.

      Two years ago, Zamzami incited further controversy in Morocco when he said it was permissible for pregnant women to drink alcohol.

      But it seems his view on partners having sex with their deceased partners has found its way to Egypt one year on.

      Egyptian prominent journalist and TV anchor Jaber al-Qarmouty on Tuesday referred to Abdul Samea’s article in his daily show on Egyptian ON TV and criticized the whole notion of “permitting a husband to have sex with his wife after her death under a so-called ‘Farewell Intercourse’ draft law.”

      “This is very serious. Could the panel that will draft the Egyptian constitution possibly discuss such issues? Did Abdul Samea see by his own eyes the text of the message sent by Talawi to Katatni? This is unbelievable. It is a catastrophe to give the husband such a right! Has the Islamic trend reached that far? Is there really a draft law in this regard? Are there people thinking in this manner?”

      http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/04/25/210198.html

      • @Ragspierre”… that a woman also too had the same right to engage in sex with her dead husband”——-I wish her good luck with that, as I doubt that he is feeling very amorous in this corporeal sphere, being busy with those 72 virgins and all. Thus, her ardor mortis would depend on his rigor mortis which, like life itself, is but a fleeting moment. Perhaps this law will inspire a movie; “Mummy dearest”.

      • @Ragspierre Neither al-Qarmouty nor Abdul Samea provided any evidence of this claim. Abdul Samea used these wordsin the introduction to his column: “I heard…”. I can assure you discussion of this issue never and will never be discussed in the Egyptian parliament. Zamzami is just one person representing only one opinion. I can’t believe people believe such rumors and in my opinion it’s no more than a propaganda that accompanies the presidential election.

    • @MostafaBakoush You sound justifiably horrified, thank you for proving some of my faith in the basic goodness of mankind is not misplaced. We’re horrified someone somewhere has put it forward as part of a national constitution. These things won’t be stopped by people being silent about them when they learn of them.

    • That’s why we have links. Follow it and take it up with them. According to the quotes they include from Egyptians opposed to this, it’s not “untrue”. If so, you need to explain their opposition and concern.

    • @MostafaBakoush

      Have you ever heard of Rule 34 of the Internet?

      Don’t ask for videos…they probably exist.

  • Without a clitoris, it could be hard to tell the difference between a live wife and a recently departed one, so why not carry on until the drop in body temperature becomes noticeable? Allah shouldn’t care.

    • @myweeklycrime According to the opinion of the author, it has no chance of passage. The facts related below are essentially all confirmed, however.

      • @Ragspierre In the title, Dan Murphy calls the rumors, “Hooey, utter hooey”.

        The above cited article declares, “Egyptian husbands will soon be legally allowed to have sex with their dead wives….” That statement suggests imminent passage in the legislature. In the US congress, proposed bills have a number you can use to look them up. I think I’d refrain from using phrases like “will soon be legally allowed” until I see the equivalent, in writing.

    • @myweeklycrime Good!

  • Sound kind of like Santorum who took his dead infant home for his family to say good-bye.

    • @tadcf Said the Emperor of False Equivalence

    • @tadcf Unfortunately, the average liberal is ignorant enough to believe this is a valid point.

    • @tadcf So you’re accusing the Santorum family of using a dead infant for sex? The fact that such an idea occurred to you, and you had the temerity to broadcast it publicly, says something very disturbing about your mind.