The Left already walking back a Wisconsin loss as significant to Obama
I have no idea how the vote in Wisconsin will go today. All polls seem to point to a victory by incumbent governor Scott Walker and my guess is that’s how it will turn out.
But the left, or at leas part of the left in the guise of The New Republic’s Alec MacGillis, is trying to walk back the national significance of a possible Walker victory.
Citing the conventional wisdom that a loss today would bode ill for Obama in Wisconsin and nationally come November, well, he’s not on board with that:
I don’t buy it. And that goes the other way, too — I don’t think Democrats should take away too much optimism for their fall prospects if Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett pulls off an upset win. Part of this has to with all the usual reasons why state contests should not be taken as barometers of national sentiment, as listed in a smart guest post by Will Oremus on David Weigel’s Slate blog: "1) It’s a recall. 2) It’s happening in June. 3) The incumbent is a Republican. 4) Neither Barack Obama nor Mitt Romney is running. 5) A significant number of states (49 by my count) will not be participating. 6) Need I go on?"
Seems to be missing a few numbers, doesn’t it?
7) the left initiated the recall, has poured millions upon millions of dollars into a state which Obama took by 14 points, and is seemingly failing in its attempt to oust a sitting Republican governor.
8)if the left and unions can’t motivate voters in this state, what does that say about their chances nationally?
9)the left elevated this into an election with “national implications”, not the right.
10)the left began the meme that this would foretell the November national election, not the right.
11)Barack Obama is avoiding WI like the plague because he understands the national implications of being associated with a loss there by the left.
Etc.
MacGillis is pretty sure he can figure out a way that such a loss would actually be good for Obama.
My colleague Noam Scheiber adds an interesting conjecture on the lessons that the parties will take from the Wisconsin results about the allocation of resources this fall, arguing that a Walker win might also help the Democrats in that regard.
Oh, well, then certainly a loss would be much less biting then (really?). The Democrats would learn a valuable lesson about “the allocation of resources this fall”? Yippee.
But how does MacGillis think this is a good thing for Obama? Well, he manages to ignore 7-11(+) above (and pretty much everything else of significance) and reduces his analysis to the absurd:
So beware the pundits who turn Tuesday’s vote into nothing but a grand partisan referendum and fail to take into account a less cable-ready way of assessing a Walker victory: as a statement of grudging pro-incumbent sentiment in a time of cautious optimism about a painfully gradual economic recovery.
Anyone who actually believes it’s a “grudging pro-incumbent sentiment” being expressed in Wisconsin is doing an admirable and obvious job of whistling past the graveyard. They also don’t have any real clue about what’s happening there today.
~McQ
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While Bruce argues with MacGillis over today’s election’s impact on Obama, there is no disputing that today is a referendum on a long time friend of the Democratic Party, labor unions, more specially, public sector labor unions.
There is no severability between Walker and the labor unions. If Obama want to hightail it out of Madison while he throws labor unions “under the bus,” so be it.
Yeah, I think that’s a good point, Neo.
Actually, if Walker never does another thing, he’s already won. When you demonstrate that…without compulsion…people chose NOT union…
you won. There won’t be enough sentiment to go back, regardless.
To steal Shark’s phrase – their tears will be sweet. I wonder what it is they think they can do – especially if spending money just doesn’t cut it any more.
I guess they’ll just continue as they have on the national level, and do a lot of lying, every day.
Take that lesson home.
I vow to find out what my town’s contract is with the unions.
Am I paying for retirement with full benefits after 25 years of service?
These are questions we should all be asking our local governments.
In the words of Joe Biden, If Walker wins this is a Big F-ing Deal! Because the labor left pumped millions and millions into this, and if they lose they will be demoralized. That means less dollars and less people available for November.
I’m ready for a full week of gloating myself. Their tears will be my nectar
“Gloating yourself”…??? I was told that can make you blind…
Kyle-
Just remember, this is the lefts THIRD try at it. Kloppenberg, the senate recalls and now this. This isn’t an isolated event it’s another in a series of fail, and people need to know that. People also need to know that what Walker did WORKED.
Damn Bruce, cut them some slack, no one <everyone> thought that Walker could actually win this thing. They have to give themselves some wiggle room.
They’ve already set the table for vote suppression with an allegation of phone calls giving bad info (to Democratic voters, presumably….) on the election – not having to vote if you signed the recall, or that the election is tomorrow….
That’s boilerplate whining from the left. They claim in happens in every election.
Yeeeup. They’re shaping the ground for the GOP charges of vote fraud. The old smoke-throwing ploy. So far, all these robo-calls are conspicuous for their lack of evidence.
I guess they want to get it out there quick. That way it can become “common knowledge” and spur on the base, since any later lack of evidence will be ignored by the low information folks known as Democrats.
Obviously it will be helpful if it a tight election. If it is the blowout I’m expecting, not so much. But it will still give the true believers something to froth about.
There have also been reports of (at least 4) buses from Michigan carrying Michigan residents to vote in Wisconsin organized by unions.
I’m sure the DOJ folks on the ground in Wisconsin have this firmly in hand (making sure they can vote).
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The left’s arguments seem to be unhinged from cause and effect.
Looking at points 1-5, I fail to see a rational argument at all. Not unlike the argument that Clinton balanced budgets (which is to say he signed a GOP budget that was nearly balanced at a time when the economic stars were properly aligned for such things), and that what we really need is Clinton to solve this mess that “Bush created” (nevermind that the actual cause of the 2008 crisis was Clinton administration rules).
I could go on, but it seems to me that the left is no longer connected to cause and effect in any meaningful way.
No Longer? When was the last time?
If Walker wins this whole thing goes down the memory hole by Thursday.
If Walker loses then it will be talked up till November. Obama will try to take credit.
The only thing that would make a Walker victory even better is if the unions and DNC had spent $1B on the recall effort.
Drudge is reporting exit polls show Walker wins.
… and Kerry won Ohio
Walker wins !
Politico show their objective by putting up piece that days it means nothing to November.
DEAR UNIIONS:
CUT UPWARDS ALONG THE VEIN, NOT ACROSS.
YOUR TEARS, THEY ARE DELICIOUS LIKE THE SWEETEST NECTAR! CRY B*TCHES, CRY! BWA HA HA HAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
mwaaahahahahahahahhahahahhahhhhhaaaaaaaaa -
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2012/06/05/Bleeding-Heart-Liberal-Tells-CNN-This-is-the-End-of-Democracy
Yes, I’m gloating and probably will continue to do so for the next day or so.
And remember kids, “Democracy” is when your state legislators valiantly and selflessly run away to another state to avoid and prevent having to vote on laws they don’t like when they lose their majority in the legislature. Yessir, THAT’S democracy.
And this just in from Democrats in Wisconsin and Ed Schultz at MSNBC (Al Gore 1.01) – waaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh.
Sharky, you’re right, their tears are nectar, and their whining is like sweet music.
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