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Obama Gives The Bill Cosby Speech. NAACP Hears Something Else.

And props to the Prez for doing so.  However, and you knew there’d be one or I wouldn’t be writing about it, it is interesting to note what the NAACP, to whom he addressed the speech, heard:

The organization’s president, Benjamin T. Jealous, said afterward that the address “was the most forthright speech on the racial disparities still plaguing our nation” Mr. Obama has given since moving into the White House.

A little confirmation bias maybe. This is what they wanted to hear (that’s what keeps them in business) and so that’s what they heard.

So lets see what he said and how they might have gotten that impression.

President Obama delivered a fiery sermon to black America on Thursday night, warning black parents that they must accept their own responsibilities by “putting away the Xbox and putting our kids to bed at a reasonable hour,” and telling black children that growing up poor is no reason to get bad grades.

“No one has written your destiny for you,” he said, directing his remarks to “all the other Barack Obamas out there” who might one day grow up to be president. “Your destiny is in your hands, and don’t you forget that. That’s what we have to teach all of our children! No excuses! No excuses!”

Sounds like the Bill Cosby speech to me – “no excuses!” means “no excuses!”, right?

Well sorta. Apparently after throwing that out there, he remembered to whom he was speaking and provided them the their portion of red meat:

Even as he urged blacks to take responsibility for themselves, he spoke of the societal ills — high unemployment, the housing and energy crisis — that have created the conditions for black joblessness. And he said the legacy of the Jim Crow era is still felt, albeit in different ways today.

“Make no mistake, no mistake: the pain of discrimination is still felt in America,” Mr. Obama said, by African-American women who are paid less for the same work as white men, by Latinos “made to feel unwelcome,” by Muslim Americans “viewed with suspicion” and by “our gay brothers and sisters, still taunted, still attacked, still denied their rights.”

I’m sure the press will fact check all of this (who, btw is viewing “Muslim Americans” with suspicion and taunting and attacking “our gay brothers and sisters”? Is it those “white men” who’re being paid more than African-American women?), but there it is, the very part that Benjamin Jealous (I love that last name) decided to remember.

The put-away-the-X-Box-go-to-bed-and-study stuff – well, as I said, Bill Cosby has been giving that speech for years. Given the fact that Obama feels compelled to give it now should tell you why the NAACP chooses to ignore the “no excuses” portion in favor of the “racial disparities” portion.

Addendum: And, of course, I’ll be the racist for pointing this out – just hide and watch.

~McQ

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27 Responses to Obama Gives The Bill Cosby Speech. NAACP Hears Something Else.

  • “Make no mistake, no mistake: the pain of discrimination is still felt in America,” Mr. Obama said
    Yawn… I’m so tired of hearing this.

  • I’m sorry, but when the BLACK President of the United States has the nerve to yap about what a racist country we are… Sheesh.

  • I think he meant that blacks have to stop looking suspiciously at …. just go to the Rev. Wright tapes  ..  it pretty obvious that there still is a race problem by watching them.
    I suggest a little Michael Jackson  … start with the man in the mirror.

  • The Clown™ went before the NAALBP (National Association for the Advancement of Liberal Black People), and told them zip, zilch, nada.

    The Clown™ planteth his lips to their behinds, and they bent over and massaged his head.

    Next group to kowtow to!

  • “African-American women who are paid less for the same work as white men”

    Yeah, well, the race  pandering self propelled can of Spam may want to amend that slightly by removing the prefix of ‘African’.
    Not particularly PROUD of that fact, but hey let’s not pretend it’s a situation occupied solely by “African-American” women.
    Fact is ALL American women are paid less for the same work as ‘white’ men.
    But hey, never pass up an opportunity to pander to  a demographic.

    • That’s a skewed study. It doesn’t control for occupation, length on the job, and amount of leave taken.

      In engineering, if you look at a woman and a man with the same experience and same length of time on the job, you could scarcely pass a playing card through the difference in salaries.

  • I’ve said it before and will never be afraid to say it again: he’s our first affirmative-action president. Now I can add the first affirmative-action Attorney General and the first affirmative-action Surgeon General.

    On the subject of women in general not getting paid as much as men: Thomas Sowell has pointed out that if it were true that women get paid 75% of what an equally qualified man does for the very same job, then employers would certainly hire all those “qualified” women before they hire any men. The fact that they *don’t* shows that they’re not as “qualified” as they think. Having children is especially detrimental to a career, even after childbirth because of all the occasional days off and having to leave early.

    While I don’t work directly for them, I can name three top execs at my employer and one senior portfolio manager who are among the best-paid women on Wall Street. They get paid a lot more than I do, so where’s the “equality”?

    • I’ve said it before and will never be afraid to say it again: he’s our first affirmative-action president.

      So you just called Americans racist.  Why do you hate Americans?

      They get paid a lot more than I do, so where’s the “equality”?

      Have you ever considered that you just may suck that badly?  Maybe it’s just that you’re their bitch.

      • Your comment shows you aren’t prepared for mature discourse, but I will pose a scenario for your consideration if you decide otherwise.

        I’m not convinced either way, but I think there would have been very tall odds indeed for a 100% Anglo-Saxon man with Barack Obama’s experience and background had he ran in the presidential election. I could be wrong, and maybe anybody with a pulse who wasn’t named George W. Bush and had ‘Democrat’ next to their name on the ballot would have won, but I’m not so sure of that either. Kerry, after all, was a lousy-enough candidate that Bush beat him amidst strong anti-war sentiment and policy opposition. Obama’s margin of victory against McCain was small enough that I think race could have played an important role.

        Do I actually believe race did play a role in the election? Like I said, I’m not convinced, but it is certainly within the realm of possibility, and someone who rejects it out of hand is not taking an objective view.

        With that said, is it important? Perhaps not, other than it should be yet another wake-up call for the Republican Party to appeal to the black community, about 15% of this country’s demographics for whose votes they never seriously compete.

        • But there was a white guy with the same background and experience who ran for the Democratic nomination – John Edwards. One-term Senator with no foreign policy experience and a paper thin political resume. He was only able to muster 15% among Dems.

        • I’m not convinced either way, but I think there would have been very tall odds indeed for a 100% Anglo-Saxon man with Barack Obama’s experience and background had he ran in the presidential election.

          That’s exactly why I said he’s our first affirmative-action president: a white candidate with the very same qualifications would have never gotten so far. Geraldine Ferraro was right about that.
          Bruce, remember that Hillary wasn’t much more qualified than either Obama or Edwards. A mere four more years in the Senate.

          • The point though is Obama is a black John Edwards.

          • And head-to-head, Bruce, the race card gave Obama the huge lead over someone as equally unqualified but who was white. Liberals so desperately wanted “a person of color” as their candidate, but not someone with the baggage of Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton, that they’d even pick a dope if that’s all they had left. Like I’ve been saying all along: affirmative action.

      • Gee, do you actually read anyone’s comments, or do you just insert what you’d like to hear?

        So you just called Americans racist.  Why do you hate Americans?

        I never said either. What, you think I’m not American just because of my last name?
        I said, “They get paid a lot more than I do, so where’s the “equality”?” Now, do you know sarcasm when you see it? Good lord.
        The point that escapes you is that in the previous breath I explained why top money managers get paid the most, and why they should. They probably couldn’t perform my duties of a senior compliance analyst as well as I can, but I’d probably go down in flames if I tried to do their job of managing several hundred billion dollars. Not many people can do their job, even adequately.
        Do me the courtesy of not replying next time until you read and comprehend what I wrote, all right?

  • He is half white afterall

  • Wonder what he thinks about the exchange between senator boxer and the president of the National Black Chamber of Commerce.  Maybe that was the inequality the TOTUS was referring to.  She could have asked “These organizations are black and you are black so shouldn’t you think the same way?” and it would have summarized what she was really saying.

  • Gee, do you actually read anyone’s comments, or do you just insert what you’d like to hear?

    So you just called Americans racist.  Why do you hate Americans?

    I never said either. What, you think I’m not American just because of my last name?
    I said, “They get paid a lot more than I do, so where’s the “equality”?” Now, do you know sarcasm when you see it? Good lord.
    The point that escapes you is that in the previous breath I explained why top money managers get paid the most, and why they should. They probably couldn’t perform my duties of a senior compliance analyst as well as I can, but I’d probably go down in flames if I tried to do their job of managing several hundred billion dollars. Not many people can do their job, even adequately.
    Do me the courtesy of not replying next time until you read and comprehend what I wrote, all right?

  • The post isn’t at all racist, though I think Obama’s points are all accurate: blacks have to take responsibility (Bill Cosby was right), there are lingering social structures that disadvantage blacks, and minorities in general have had a harder time getting accepted for much of mainstream US society.  Those are all facts strongly supported by evidence.    So I’m not sure why one would be critical of Obama.
    Perry’s comment does border on racism — any black that achieves a high position is there due to “affirmative action?”   Or are the “good” blacks — Sowell, Thomas and others with whom Perry might agree self-made, while liberal successes are affirmative action?   I think, though, it’s less racist than a result of warped political bias.

    • Unsurprisingly, Erb, you make a bounding leap in logic. I don’t know anything about Mr. Eidelbus or his views, but the only comment he made dealing with race was the statement that “[Obama is] our first affirmative-action president”. So how exactly does that inform your assertion that he thinks “any black that achieves a high position is there due to ‘affirmative action’”?

      The fact is, President Obama had little to no executive or leadership qualifications when he was elected. Almost certainly that is the reasoning behind Perry’s assertion that President Obama is a benefactor of ‘affirmative action’. I somehow doubt that Perry would suggest that ‘Thurgood Marshall was our first affirmative action Supreme Court justice’ or that ‘Colin Powell was our first affirmative action Secretary of State’.

      Mr. Eidelbus’s comment wasn’t “border[line] racist”, but your’s was openly defamatory.

    • Accusing me of racism? That’s rich, Erb. I guess I spanked you too many times before that you’ll grasp for any straw. Or in this case, a strawman.

      there are lingering social structures that disadvantage blacks, and minorities in general have had a harder time getting accepted for much of mainstream US society.

      Like what? Am I supposed to feel somehow responsible for ~70% black illegitimacy rates? Or that despite scholarships strictly for “ethnic minorities,” they still don’t graduate from college with the same rates as non-Hispanic whites and Asians?
      When someone is in front of a potential employer, does the hiring manager honestly care about “lingering social structures” that left him “disadvantaged,” or does he care about hiring the best-qualified person regardless?

      Those are all facts strongly supported by evidence.    So I’m not sure why one would be critical of Obama.

      Notwithstanding you cited no evidence at all, this is an absurd non-sequitur. We can’t be critical of Obama because Da Man Whitey be suppressin’ tha brothers.

      Perry’s comment does border on racism — any black that achieves a high position is there due to “affirmative action?”

      A strawman. Stop putting words into my mouth, you contemptible troll. You know that isn’t what I said, no doubt why you didn’t quote a single word.
      You can’t argue economics with me, and even less so on “race.” Go get lynched or something and stop wasting our time. Oh, was that “racist” of me to say to you?

  • And, I think, he has helped both weaken already weakening social structures disadvantaging blacks, while being an inspiration for blacks not to use those structures as an excuse for maintaining patterns of negative behavior.   Ultimately, it is up to blacks — like all people — to take responsibility for their lives and make their future rather than blame others for problems.  That’s true for all people in all races and of all political stripes.

  • there are lingering social structures that disadvantage blacks, and minorities in general have had a harder time getting accepted for much of mainstream US society.

    Like speaking English beyond a 2nd grade level?
    Or diligent work habits?
    Or non-thug behavior?
    Or maturity?
    Or responsibility?
    “It’s been said they are criminals because they are poor. That has things reversed; they are poor because they are criminals. Who would hire someone and give them responsibility and access to cash and/or property when they have a criminal mind-set?”
     

  • Actually education, work habits, thuggery, and maturity are harder to obtain if people are raised in different cultural and social settings.  Do you think those things exist because they are ‘naturally’ more common in black people?

    • So in one reply you state: “Ultimately, it is up to blacks — like all people — to take responsibility for their lives and make their future rather than blame others for problems. That’s true for all people in all races and of all political stripes.”

      But you’re as contradictory as the affirmative-action president you worship. You still blamed society in the next breath: “Actually education, work habits, thuggery, and maturity are harder to obtain if people are raised in different cultural and social settings.”

      If something is “harder” to obtain, how is it in any way my fault if the person fails? I didn’t make him fail. I didn’t make his father abandon the teenage mother, or make blacks fail out of school, or make Homey run messages for local dealers before becoming a murderous gang-banger himself.

      My father grew up very poor, yet he never became a thug. I had a middle-class upbringing and never became a thug. It’s because our parents taught us to respect others and their property, not because we expected our physical and cultural environment to impart anything to us.

      “Do you think those things exist because they are ‘naturally’ more common in black people?”

      How about you tell us your opinion first.

      But since we’d be waiting a long time for something not forthcoming, I’ll state my belief: it’s unfortunately a common characteristic of many black Americans as a matter of culture, not genetics. Rappers don’t have “street cred” until they’re shot, and they’re still the ones idolized, not Obama.

      I have friends who are from Africa, and they’re completely different from the bad elements that are bringing down black Americans. My frends have strong work ethics and are well-mannered, and they speak not just excellent English, but they have a conscious effort to speak carefully. Strange, these are things my Franco-German father taught me, too.

  • Come on… baiting Erb is favorite pasttime for commentors here, but nothing he said on this thread was actually contradictory.  His comment wasn’t blaming society AS A WHOLE, it was blaming noting the effects of the the cultural and social settings they grew up in.  It’s perfectly consistent if he believes, as you seem to, that it’s the black subculture that needs to change.

    • No one ever has to “bait” Erb. He jumps into our frying pans of his own accord. What we do do is expose him for his lies, his disregard for truth, and his contemptible hypocrisy.

      What he posted was very much contradictory. I’ll quote him again:

      “And, I think, he has helped both weaken already weakening social structures disadvantaging blacks, while being an inspiration for blacks not to use those structures as an excuse for maintaining patterns of negative behavior.”

      “Ultimately, it is up to blacks — like all people — to take responsibility for their lives and make their future rather than blame others for problems. That’s true for all people in all races and of all political stripes.”

      A reasonable person would read those separately and believe that different people wrote them, not the same liberal hypocrite — let alone the same liberal hypocrite in the same breath!

      Erb has yet to tell us exactly who he blames for these “social structures disadvantaging blacks,” but the implication is that it be society an’ sheeit keepin’ down Jamal an’ his bros. And yet he has the dishonesty to talk the classic Cosby line about responsibility. Well, this is what we should expect from the likes of Obama and Erb, because they have no principles to speak of.

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