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Dumb and Dumbest – The White House’s Irrational War Against FOX News (Continued)

I continue to watch this incredibly dumb public fight the White House has picked with a news organization and cannot fathom why they continue it. At least not a rational reason. I can come up with all sorts of irrational reasons. For an election campaign organization that was touted as being so media savvy, while watching this debacle continue to develop you have to wonder where all the savvy types went.

And some of the media seems to have had a “there but for the grace of God go I” moment. Jake Tapper exemplifies that:

Jake Tapper, ABC News: It hasn’t escaped our notice that in the last few weeks the White House has decided to declare war on one of our sister organizations saying it’s not a news organization and tell the rest of the news media to not treat them like a news organization. Can you explain why it’s appropriate for the White House to say one of them is not a news organization and the rest of the media should not treat them like one.

White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs: We render opinion based on some their coverage and the fairness of that coverage.

Tapper: That’s a pretty sweeping declaration that they’re not a news organization. How are they different from, say another, say ABC, MSNBC, Univision?

Gibbs: You and I should watch sometime around 9 o’clock tonight or five this afternoon.

Tapper: I’m not talking about their opinion programs. Or issues you have with certain reports. I’m talking about saying that thousands of individuals who work for a media organization do not work for a news organization. Why is that appropriate for the White House to say?

Gibbs: That is our opinion.

When you’re reduced to “that’s our opinion” as a defense of your actions, you’ve got nothing. When you have representatives of competing news organizations referring to FOX as a “sister organization”, you’ve lost the battle.

However the White House doesn’t seem to understand that, and continues to arrogantly push this fight they picked. Other that with the extreme left, which has always hated FOX, the White House is the completely unsympathetic actor in this little charade. Here you have the Press Secretary for the President of the United States trying to dictate what constitutes “fairness” of coverage. It is pure arrogance trying to trade on waning popularity and it isn’t working. More overreach by this administration – picking fights that aren’t necessary whichmake them look petty and small and which they will, in the end, lose.

Not too bright.

~McQ

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32 Responses to Dumb and Dumbest – The White House’s Irrational War Against FOX News (Continued)

  • “Gibbs: You and I should watch sometime around 9 o’clock tonight or five this afternoon.”

    I assume that’s Beck and Hannity?  If that’s the case I assume Olbermann, Matthews and Maddow also disqualify their network?

    Pres. Thinskin rolls on…

  • SuperFreakazoid-Nixonian
    Did Gibbs ever work at Disneyland ?

  • They look petty and small because they are.  It’s pretty clear from Obama’s own speeches at Democratic events.

  • This entire administration is in serious need of a cockpunch.

  • I had to look this up because I don’t know what Fox’s schedule is:  5 pm is O’Reilly and 9 pm is Hannity.  Those aren’t news programs, nor does Fox purport them to be.  They are commentary, and ALL commentary comes with a viewpoint.

    For the Obama administration to claim that Fox’s news coverage is biased based on commentary programs is thoroughly dishonest.

    Oh, and I know Erb reads this stuff:  I’m still waiting for five examples of Fox’s bias in its news reporting.  Show us the original story, the factual errors, the bias, and how other networks covered the same story.  If Fox is the propaganda channel you claim it to be, this should be an easy assignment for you.
     

    • You dense righties never learn {chuckle}. I am a wise leftist professor with godlike powers of political science, so I give out assignments, but I don’t allow anyone else to make assignments to me. That would be admitting that we are on the same level, which of course we are not, with my advanced degree in international relations and my book that is absolutely not from a vanity press that suckers social science professors.

      Fox is biased and amaturish. I decree it. No, I’ve never watched them, but we all in the faculty lounge know this to be true, and now of course, we have the wise decision by Obama, which completely validates our point of view. They are a pure propaganda network not worth watching, and Obama is wise to expose them for what they are. I’m a bit confused by the defense of Fox by the other media organizations, but Obama or Anita Dunn or Gibbs or someone will explain all that to us in the next few days, and I’ll be back here to parrot inform all of you on the real story about that.

      You thick righties need to get a grip and realize that your kind of thinking is being displaced, and the rightful and holy attacks on Fox are just part of that. I think you’re angry because you feel so impotent to do anything about Obama’s programs, peace be unto him. You’ll just have to get over that. LOL.

    • 5PM is Beck.  8 PM is O’Reilly

  • That was an embarrassingly bad display by Gibbs.  Did they not prepare him in the event that a reporter pressed the issue and asked him to explain why the administration claims that Fox is not a news organization?

    • What can they tell him to say to “prepare” him for something like this?  It’s rather like trying to prepare a robber caught in the act: “OK, if they catch you coming out of the bank with a gun in one hand and a sack of money in another, this is what you should say…”

      I also suggest that it would never occur to TAO and his thugs that Tubby NEEDS any preparation because, in their puny, twisted minds, Fox’s bias is self-evident.  What preparation would you need in case somebody asked you why you think that the sky is blue or that fire is hot?

  • Even the WaPo has picked up on this to some extent.

    I’m sure that MiniTru is VERY conflicted.  On the one hand, they detest Fox for its high ratings, its ideological slant, and that it has embarrassed them by scooping / covering major stories about TAO and his thugs that they’d prefer not to cover (Van Jones, ACORN).  On the other hand, they recognize that what this White House can do to FNC, a future White House can do to them.

  • Obama is a loser, and so are his robotic morons that handle (or don’t) the press.   The only station worth a crap is Fox.  Why pick a fight with them, mr. panty waist is going to flame out on this one.

  • “Obama is a loser, and so are his robotic morons that handle (or don’t) the press.   The only station worth a crap is Fox.  Why pick a fight with them”
    Mr Jr, was this intentionally ironic?

    • narrative irony. i think people are looking for intentional irony to much of the time. 

  • The Obama campaign was not media savvy. The media made the campaign look savvy.

  • Petty and small.  Sounds like business as usual.

  • And the other networks finally realize…if it can be done to one of them….it’s obvious where it can go.
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/23/white-house-loses-bid-exclude-fox-news-pay-czar-interview/
     

  • Ho, Ho, Barry H.O. has got to go!

    • You know something, in a parliamentary system, he might very well be gone.

      In our system we rely on a free press to carefully examine pretenders to the presidency. Obama got a pass at every step along the way from nearly all of the mainstream media. Nearly everything about him but the standard campaign narrative was off limits.

      Now we are stuck with this, and the mainstream media is still covering for him. He and they are doubling down, too. It has a nasty stench to it. Very very nasty. 1930s nasty.

  • If the result of Obama attacking Fox is to drive more viewers to watch Glenn Beck, then Obama is commiting suicide. Beck has been taking Obama apart, piece by piece. The mainstream media was out obsessing about fake quotes from Rush Limbaugh while Beck was featuring real live quotes (made to a graduating high school class, no less) by the person Obama put in charge of White House communications. She was praising mass murderer Mao Tse-Tung as one of her favorite political philosophers.

    I can’t wait until Beck goes to work on the “Safe Schools Czar” who is an advocate of “queering the schools.” That’s going to boil the sneakers in the soccer moms’ pot, for sure.

  • Who’d a thunk it that Obama would be a paranoid narcissist ?
    OK, narcissist yes, but virtually nothing who have made you think he would opt for the bunker mentality now on display.  I know I thought his passing up the FoxNews primary debate in Las Vegas was more pandering to the paranoid masses rather than an indicator of his own paranoia.  Apparently, that story of the auto czar invoking the “Madman theory of the Presidency” wasn’t just the auto czar talking.

    Maybe if the news media had done their homework back during the campaign, we might of have a glimmer of this before he got elected to control the nuclear “football.”  Iran should hope they don’t piss him off, or a flash of light later …

    • I said two things way back: wait until the presidential steroids kick in and then watch what he does when his favorability ratings start to go.

      He always did seem to believe that he had power over the way he was perceived. He very much seems to believe in his own cult of personality.

      Keep watching. It is going to get worse.

  • This memorandum from Media Matters is disgusting.
    They now seek to form a Progressive media cartel (if you may) that will box out those “lethal” voices at FoxNews.
    This folks are clearly no friend of the 1st amendment.

    • They’re trying to wage a mimetic contagion in which Fox is the scapegoat.

      The trouble with that is that even with the revolting zombies who make up the mainstream media they are still left to wonder “Am I next.”

      Some, not all, but some, will know how perilously close they already are to being next.

      As for Media Matters, that’s a creature of the animated colostomy bag George Soros.

    • Let them do it. It will give the next Republican President cover to keep the NYTimes out of the loop forever.

      Let them do it.  The next time a Dan Rather-type pulls his stunt, that network loses all access.

      I don’t think these idiots understand just who has more to lose here.  (Even the networks do given their defense of FNC right to do an interview in the press pool)

      • Nothing — well, next to nothing — that a Leftist in power ever does would translate into giving cover to a conservative in power. The transformation of liberal standards from one situation to the other, much less the actual consistent standards of conservatives, would see to that.

        But looking a tad below the surface here, consider how the media fish might be swimming toward a media bailout cum nationalization, where good fish get to swim up river to the PBS-like encampment, a new multi-level state media modeled on the BBC.

        There’s that to think of as this unfolds.

  • I think there is a good chance this is about keeping their base locked in. Several groups on the left are upset that Obama hasn’t worked fast enough on their pet projects and are starting to realize they aren’t the priority they thought they would be. The last thing the Democrats can afford is widespread objectivity.  Not that those groups would switch parties, but it takes a lot of energy to spread a false message.
       This a great time to attack Fox. It distracts attention from the legislation in Congress and it’s not a federal election year. Independants that get turned off by this may forget in a few years; or just pin this on Obama without being turned off from all Democrats. On the other hand, the fools that actually beleive Fox is completely biased (and the MSM is nuetral) will be loyal Democrats for years.

    • If it’s directed at their base, they are risking the middle 40% of the electorate over it.

      That stimulus bill was about buying the base through the 2010 election.

      This turn on Fox, talk radio, and other non-media groups like the Chamber of Commerce and the medical insurance industry is very bunker, very bunker, which always boils down to delusional. Always. It is not a rational strategy. But it is a strategy that does, historically, get followed by the abuse of power. Serious abuse of power.

      Now,  think of Obama’s first move after being elected: He made Rahm Emanuel his White House chief of staff. He chose one of the most malignant personalities in the Democratic Party to run the White House. He reaps what he has sown. And I’m curious to see how far these people go in the next step. I think that they get wildly out of hand, dangerously out of hand, and that you will be able to draw a straight line from the delusional bunker state to what ever it is.

      These people are into power, and it’s not clear to me that they know how to get from where they are to wherever they think they are going without really really really abusing it. Seriously f’ing abusing it. Wildly.

  • All they’re doing is driving more and more viewers of both stripes into the FOX camp!
    Unintended consequence, or is the Lap Dog Media starting to fret, realizing they don’t have the monopoly they did in the pre-internet/pre-FOX days?
     

  • Aren’t there laws against hiring 13 year old girls to plan your administration’s media strategy?
    “Let’s all gang up on Fox News and agree not to talk to her.  And we’ll tell everybody else not to talk to her too.  That’ll make her cry!  And her mascara will run!  And then we’ll all call her ‘streak-face’ and laugh at her!  And then we’ll go out for ice cream and hope that hunky 9th grader walks into the store so we can giggle about him.”  Holy cow, I thought I’d left junior high behind me.