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Obama To Offer Target Cuts In Greenhouse Gases At Copenhagen

World in recession?

Check.

Wheels coming off the science of AGW?

Check.

High unemployment continuing to rise?

Check.

2010 an election year?

Check.

Senate historically opposed to international treaties that hurt the economy?

Check.

Great – why not go to the UN’s Copenhagen treaty summit and offer some totally unrealistic and probably unachievable cuts in greenhouse gas emissions so we can feel like one of the cool kids?

President Barack Obama is considering setting a provisional target for cutting America’s huge greenhouse gas emissions, removing the greatest single obstacle to a landmark global agreement to fight climate change.

This is absolutely perfect for the talker-in-chief. Go. Promise. Bask. This is how you turn a useless conference which will most likely never accomplish a thing in reference to its primary goal into one all about the president.

Nigel Lawson points out the obvious:

But the meeting will still be declared a great success. Politicians do not like being associated with failure, so they will make sure that whatever emerges from Copenhagen is declared a success, and promise to meet again next year. This will at least give our political leaders the time to get themselves off the hook.

“Off the hook” in Obama’s case will be bringing a provisional treaty back with cuts he’s promised included and trying to get the Senate to ratify it. Kyoto went 98-0 against and is widely recognized – given the utter failure of other countries to even get close to their promised targets – as the smart move of the time.

Copenhagen is to go one step further. As PM Gordon Brown declared last week:

Copenhagen must “forge a new international agreement … [which] must contain the full range of commitments required: on emissions reductions by both developed and developing countries, on finance and on verification”.

Meaning? Meaning the idea is to stop developed countries from “outsourcing” their carbon emissions to “developing” countries. And to put those developing countries – in the middle of a global recession – on a restricted carbon diet.

It. Is. Not. Going. To. Happen.

Developing countries may agree the industrialized countries need to go on that diet, but they’re not going to hobble themselves unless massive transfer payments are involved. Massive. They are going to have to be satisfied that this sort of agreement causes them no harm economically. Good luck with that.

And, of course, with the lion’s share of the transfer payment bill and his promised cuts in hand, President Obama has to come back and convince the Senate, in a re-election year, that giving away even more money we don’t have and further crippling our economy for, at best, a marginal effect on the climate, is a good idea.

Cap-and-trade is on hold until at least the spring of ’10 in the Senate. Depending on what Obama does in Copenhagen (being loved means giving away the farm if necessary) it could be DOA when it is taken up again in the Senate. Senators, at the time, are going to be sticking their political fingers into the wind and assessing the popularity of an economy killing bill in the midst of a full bore scientific scandal about AGW’s science, continuing high unemployment and negative economic numbers. Most are not going to like what they see or hear – especially with November 2010 approaching for a third of them.

~McQ

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16 Responses to Obama To Offer Target Cuts In Greenhouse Gases At Copenhagen

  • I said there were four bullets we have to dodge until after the 2010 elections. Cap and Tax, card check, internet regulation, and Obamacare. Looks like the big one, Obamacare is going to hit us in some form or another. But the others might still be avoided.
    After the midterm elections there will certainly be more conservative minded people in congress which will make it much harder for them to do anything.

  • Kyoto?  WE DON’T NEED NO STINKIN’ KYOTO!   All Imeme has to do is sign an executive order and have the EPA do it.  Or he could even do what he did with regard to the KSM trial and get the head of the EPA to do it “on her own authority” so he doesn’t have to take the flak for it.

    I hope and pray that, in light of the “inexplicable” flattening of global temperatures and the hacked e-mails from CRU, the wheels are really coming of the global warming bandwagon.  However, I’m not completely hopeful as our pals in MiniTru are totally invested in continuing the lie… and covering up their own complicity in it.  Hardly a day goes by without some hysterical report about MORE evidence of global warming.  Take, for example, this (ahem) timely article from al-AP:

    Warming’s impacts sped up, worsened since Kyoto
    By SETH BORENSTEIN, AP Science Writer –
    Monday, November 23

    Since the 1997 international accord to fight global warming, climate change has worsened and accelerated _ beyond some of the grimmest of warnings made back then.


    And it’s not just the frozen parts of the world that have felt the heat in the dozen years leading up to next month’s climate summit in Copenhagen:
    _The world’s oceans have risen by about an inch and a half.
    _Droughts and wildfires have turned more severe worldwide, from the U.S. West to Australia to the Sahel desert of North Africa.
    _Species now in trouble because of changing climate include, not just the lumbering polar bear which has become a symbol of global warming, but also fragile butterflies, colorful frogs and entire stands of North American pine forests.
    _Temperatures over the past 12 years are 0.4 of a degree warmer than the dozen years leading up to 1997.
    Even the gloomiest climate models back in the 1990s didn’t forecast results quite this bad so fast.
    “The latest science is telling us we are in more trouble than we thought,” said Janos Pasztor, climate adviser to UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon.

    WE GOTTA DO SOMETHING!!!!  / sarc

  • SCORE!!

  • Kyoto went 98-0 against and is widely recognized – given the utter failure of other countries to even get close to their promised targets – as the smart move of the time

    ***

    Yet all I heard for years was how Bush was evil for pulling out of Kyoto…

  • I enjoy watching the dimwitted liberals on CNN and MSDNC keep saying that there is a “civil war in the Republican Party,” when, in fact, the Demmies are a party about to collapse while being in full-on denial about what is going to happen to them in the near future.

    Do you think I am wrong? Check out this story from Politico, dealing with how the health care disaster is likely to blow up right in Harry Reid’s face:

    [http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1109/29798.html]

    The Demmies are going to be pounded next November. The explosion will be so massive, that people will have to wear eyeshades for months just to avoid being blinded by it’s intensity. Read the polls, check out the growing anger over what the Demmies in the Congress and the WH are doing to us (not for us), and you will see what I mean.

  • It’s December 2009, please remember the nominations for the Nobel Prize have to be in by sometime in February.  In order for President Imeme to be eligible once again for the award (given for making promises) it would be best if he promised to solve the whole global warming thing (which as we know we Americans in general, and specifically, George W. Bush, are almost completely responsible for).
    And it will probably net him another cover on Time Magazine (all Imeme, All the Time!).  He’ll want that for his photo collection.

    Meanwhile I the real world, I noticed only one very very small Imeme calendar yesterday in Barnes and Noble, I presume he’s not selling very well these days (Cheerleaders and Swimsuit girls on the other hand are still doing quite well)
     

  • Update: a little birdy tells me that Rep. Dennis Moore, D-KS, will announce his retirement because, even though he is a Blue Dog Demmie, he voted for the Crapulus package and much of the agenda of The Clown™. He surveyed his district, and realized that his political career was now finished.

    My question is: how many Demmies will soon see the same handwriting on the wall?

  • This works for Obama.  He can go to Copenhagen and make sweeping promises, then come back home and have congress turn him down.  Then he can turn to the world and shrug his shoulders and explain to them that the vast right wing conspiracy did it again.  Even having a majority in both houses of congress didn’t save us!

    • Tonus… [Imeme] can turn to the world and shrug his shoulders and explain to them that the vast right wing conspiracy did it again.

      And the rest of the dems, with the more-than-willing complicity of MiniTru, will back him up.  It’s ALWAYS the GOP’s fault.  Consider this example from our pals at Time:

      After the Health Vote, Republicans Plot Attack Strategy
      by Karen Tumulty

      The Senate’s first day of debate on sweeping legislation to overhaul the health-care system produced a squeaker of a vote – exactly the 60 that majority leader Harry Reid needed to overcome a threatened Republican filibuster that could have blocked him from even bringing the bill to the floor. But it also gave a clear picture of the Republican messaging strategy as the legislation moves forward into what promises to be weeks of tendentious debate after the Thanksgiving recess. The minority intends to launch a series of surgical strikes on key parts of the bill, and to raise questions about whether it all adds up to what the Democrats are claiming.  [emphasis mine - dj505]

      My goodness!  Those nasty ol’ Republicans have just been standing in the way of everything, haven’t they?  And now they’re planning to play politics.  Shame on them! / sarc

      It must be nice to be a democrat: no matter what you do, it’s always somebody else’s fault.

      Oh, and Tumulty finishes with this little gem:

      But having come this far, can Washington really afford to just walk away from the health care problem, leaving tens of millions uninsured and health costs spiraling upward? That’s really the question that the Senate must now face. As Republican turned Democrat Arlen Specter put it on Fox News: “The one option which is not present in my judgment is the option of doing nothing.” [emphasis mine - dj505]

      Yeah, Arlen Specter: a voice EVERYBODY should heed.  NOT!

    • This works for Obama.  He can go to Copenhagen and make sweeping promises, then come back home and have congress turn him down.

      Given how that strategy was piloted by Al Gore, it ought to work. Al ended up rich with a big old Nobel prize. I think he could start his own religion. Maybe he and Obama should be the patron saints to Gaia.

  • Just when you thought he was down, he reinvents himself ..

    Those conversations led Gore to politically inconvenient conclusions in this new book. In his conversations with Schmidt and other colleagues at the beginning of the year, Gore explored new studies – published only last week – that show methane and black carbon or soot had a far greater impact on global warming than previously thought. Carbon dioxide – while the focus of the politics of climate change – produces around 40% of the actual warming. Gore acknowledged to Newsweek that the findings could complicate efforts to build a political consensus around the need to limit carbon emissions.
    “Over the years I have been among those who focused most of all on CO2, and I think that’s still justified,” he told the magazine. “But a comprehensive plan to solve the climate crisis has to widen the focus to encompass strategies for all” of the greenhouse culprits identified in the Nasa study.

    … but I thought that “black carbon (i.e. soot) blocked the sunlight. !?
    Next we will find out that Al Gore has cornered the market on methane absorbers.

    • OFFS!

      … Gore explored new studies – published only last week – that show methane and black carbon or soot had a far greater impact on global warming than previously thought. Carbon dioxide – while the focus of the politics of climate change – produces around 40% of the actual warming.

      1.  It has long been a criticism of global warming that the theories* focused too much – almost exclusively – on CO2, overlooking the role played by water vapor / clouds.  Now that the global warming scientists** have been apparently caught committing scientific fraud on a breathtaking scale, Gore “conveniently” discovers that he might have (ahem) overemphasized the whole CO2 thing just a little bit.

      2.  Does anybody believe that Gore, whose highest level of education consists of flunking out of seminary, understood much of anything in those studies he allegedly “explored”?  Why does MiniTru continue to treat this clown like he has a shred of actual scientific ability???

      Gore acknowledged to Newsweek that the findings could complicate efforts to build a political consensus around the need to limit carbon emissions.

      Gotta give Algore credit where it’s due: he knows how to shift the goalposts and keep his con going.  Having been confronted with evidence that the earth “inexplicably” isn’t warming they way he and his fellow racketeers have claimed and that their flimsy “theory” about CO2 doesn’t hold water, Gore insists that “we need to do more research” on the “climate crisis”.  It’s like a swindler who, when confronted by patsies angry that their “investment” hasn’t paid off what he promised, admits that things haven’t gone QUITE as well as he’d hoped, but if they’ll only invest just a little more to “get over the hump”, the money will REALLY start rolling in.

      The simple fact of the matter is that THERE ISN’T A CLIMATE CRISIS.  I suggest that the global temperature data, which are spotty to begin with, have been so manipulated and even outright fabricated that we have no idea whether the earth has gotten appreciably warmer or cooler in the past centuries.  We certainly don’t know that our activity is responsible for any temperature change that HAS occured, much less the exact mechanism of this.  Most importantly, we do know that the earth has been much hotter than it is now, AND much colder, so IF the climate is changing, this is likely an absolutely natural process that would occur whether or not we drive SUV’s and use incandescent lamps.

      I’d like to see Gore, Jones, and the rest of the AGW alarmists hauled up on RICO charges.

      —–

      (*) I use the word “theories” facetiously, as theories are what real scientists use to attempt to explain the physical universe around us.  If the CRU e-mails are genuine, it is clear that the global warming “theories” are more akin to fantasies constructed by professional con artists.

      (**) I use the term “scientists” because the folks at CRU have advanced degrees in various sciences.  However, it is clear that they are NOT behaving like scientists, but rather like con artists.

      • I’d like to see Gore, Jones, and the rest of the AGW alarmists hauled up on RICO charges.

        That would encompass about 90% of the LapDog media as well, including that dumb f&ck*ng c&nt at The Weather Channel.
        Too bad Michael Chichton didn’t live long enough  to see CRU implode! :-(