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Libertarian and Liberal Thanksgivings

Happy Thanksgiving, everyone.

Usually I try to keep this day as a non-partisan, non-political day in which I wish everyone of every ideological persuasion the blessings of the day (and I still do!). But as it happens, the day provided me with one of the best examples of the differences between libertarians and liberals I’ve seen in a while. Two separate postings concerning Thanksgiving. One from a liberal blogger, Ezra Klein, and one from a blogger who is a visitor at the American Enterprise Institute (Mark Perry).

Klein reprints a food section column (one assumes he does so approvingly) all about controlling behavior:

I asked Ariely how he would set up his Thanksgiving feast to limit overeating without having to exercise self-control. His answer was to construct the “architecture” of the meal beforehand. Create conditions that guide people toward good choices, or even use their irrationality to your benefit.

“Move to chopsticks!” he exclaimed, making bites smaller and harder to take. If the chopsticks are a bit extreme, smaller plates and utensils might work the same way. Study after study shows that people eat more when they have more in front of them. It’s one of our predictable irrationalities: We judge portions by how much is left rather than how full we feel. Smaller portions lead us to eat less, even if we can refill the plate.

There it is in a nutshell – the liberal propensity toward trying to control the behavior of others. The writer decides it is his or her job to make it more difficult for you to “overeat”. Instead of just deciding to put on a great feast in keeping with the day and butt out of the affairs of others, the writer approvingly decides it is incumbent upon the server to construct an “architecture” to control the eating of others. Really – “move to chopsticks”! Or put the mashed potatoes in the kitchen!

Speaking of which, Ariely suggests placing the food “far away.” In this case, serve from the kitchen rather than the table. If people have to get up to add another scoop of mashed potatoes, they’re less likely to take their fifth serving than if they simply have to reach in front of them.

Some people can just suck the joy out of an occasion, I swear. But this seems perfectly in keeping with my observations of the more liberal among us.

On the other hand, Mark Perry decided on focusing on a completely different thing for the day – a celebration of a miracle that occurs daily all over the world that is rarely acknowledged. Thanksgiving provides the perfect day to note it:

Like in previous years, you probably didn’t call your local supermarket ahead of time and order your Thanksgiving turkey this year. Why not? Because you automatically assumed that a turkey would be there when you showed up, and it probably was there when you showed up “unannounced” at the grocery store to select your bird.

The reason your Thanksgiving turkey was waiting for you without an advance order? Because of “spontaneous order,” “self-interest,” and the “invisible hand” of the free market – “the mysterious power that leads innumerable people, each working for his own gain, to promote ends that benefit many.” And even if your turkey appeared in your local grocery stores only because of the “selfishness” or “corporate greed” of thousands of turkey farmers, truckers, and supermarket owners who are complete strangers to you and your family, it’s still part of the miracle of the marketplace where “individually selfish decisions lead to collectively efficient outcomes.”

Thanksgiving is epitomized by the process Perry describes. Our holiday is indeed as much a miracle of the market as anything. It enables everyone who wants too to have what they need or desire for that day – and every day. It is truly something to celebrate.

Free markets. Free people.

Happy Thanksgiving.

~McQ

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14 Responses to Libertarian and Liberal Thanksgivings

  • Happy Thanksgiving to all here at Q and O.
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    Even Erb.

  • Thanks to Bruce and his cohorts and to all the comment gang.
    It’s a good blog and there’s been a lot of good work done here. Sometimes it feels like pissing into the wind. But sometimes it feels like the wind is changing.
    Enjoy the feast, all and everyone. Eat, drink, be merry.

  • Happy Thanksgiving to all…….even to Erb, sitting up there in¬†Maine¬†eating a Tofu Turkey I imagine.

  • Free markets – Full people!
    Hope y’all have a great one.

  • Liberals are winning in the free marketplace of ideas.

    • Lets see how much they’re winning after the mid-terms

    • I’m still laughing over putting “liberals” and “marketplace” in the same sentence.

    • Of course they are – that’s why independents are abandoning them in droves.

      • Gallup Exit Polls – Nov. 2008 (How do people classify themselves)
        Conservative – 34%
        Liberal – 22%
        Moderate – 44%
        Gallup Polls – Oct. 21, 2009 (Same question)
        Conservative – 40%
        Liberal – 20%
        Moderate – 36%
        In other words, a big, unprecedented swing in just 11 month.
        As Bruce says, the moderates and independents are deserting ‘Bamer and Congress in drives and by this time next year, an 80-130 seat swing in the House and a 10-81 seat swing in the Senate is fairly assured. Right now things are looking glum for the Dems; in 12 months, and after the mid-term elections,¬† they’ll look downright suicidal.
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        Oh, and Tom D.?; Don’t confuse “delusions” with “ideas” – it’s only the former they’re winning and that with the dullard inner city and elite dimwit crowd!

    • The only way liberals “win” in a free marketplace is by lying and outright dishonesty.

  • Thanks to that evil grocery chain Kroger, we will celebrate by deep frying a 19 pound turkey at a cost of $6.27. ¬†Free markets are wonderful and woefully under appreciated!
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  • I would guess that most everyone here has read Leonard Read’s “I, Pencil”?
    http://www.thefreemanonline.org/featured/i-pencil/
     

  • My God Ezra is a dipstick.

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