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The coming backlash against the backlash? (update)

Reuters dutifully reports that the Arizona immigration law has “energized Democrats and Hispanics”. Reuters adds that both are “furious” about the bill and there are plans afoot to have massive May Day rallies in 70 cities. Calls for boycotts against the state are rising. Says one Democratic Representative:

“What Arizona has done is that it has galvanized, united, fortified, focused our immigration movement,” Democratic Representative Luis Gutierrez declared at the news conference.

Well, it may have done precisely that – but it may also end up  with those who supported the bill just as  “galvanized, united, fortified and focused”.  Because also noted in the article is a poll which says 64% of those in the state support the bill. We’ve heard from a few of them here.  And they’re pretty stirred up about all of this.   My guess is – and it is only that at this point – that the poll isn’t too far off from what might be found nationally.

If that’s the case, the possibility exists that the upcoming and promised “massive” demonstrations may have the same effect on supporters of stronger immigration laws such as Arizona’s to become just as energized as Gutierrez believes the law has done for the opposition.

Recall, if you will, the last time large rallies were held to protest the enforcement of immigration laws. While they were quite a spectacle, they didn’t quite have the effect for which supporters hoped. They certainly increased the visibility of the problem, but they also saw the majority of the people say “secure the border first” before you talk about reforming immigration. My guess is nothing has changed in those priorities with the public.

Secondly, politicians need to tread lightly here if they don’t wish to be seen championing the cause of law breakers and illegal immigrants against the wishes of American citizens. This is one time the “fairness” argument isn’t going to win them anything. Americans do not see it as “fair” that illegals are protected from the consequences of their illegal entry and they’re stuck with the bill supporting their health care and schooling.

So this will all be interesting to watch in the coming few weeks and months. I still don’t think they get anything done legislatively, but – as we’re already seeing – the rhetoric is going to be increasingly heated and nasty – and, this rally against Arizona may end up coming back and biting those who foment it and support it in the posterior.

UPDATE: According to Gallup, among those Americans who have heard of the Arizona law, a majority support it.

~McQ

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16 Responses to The coming backlash against the backlash? (update)

  • Of course they’re championing law breakers – take Mayor Bloomberg for example, predicting the demise of the US because we’re going to keep out “Doctors” and people we need, as if thousands of doctors creep across our borders every night, hiding in culverts to escape the wicked immigration enforcement laws so they can selflessly come here to give us health care.

    These rent seeking liberal F*ing morons refuse to perceive a difference between an immigrant and an illegal alien and it’s getting overly tiresome to have to continually tell otherwise supposedly educated people there IS a difference.  I no longer feel any  need to correct them and instantly regard anyone who takes that approach to be either a liar or a complete and utter fool who has no right to be discussing immigration.

  • It’s amusing and pathetic to watch MiniTru coverage of this issue: it amounts to an on-air temper tantrum.  They are trying sooooo hard to portray Brewer and the supporters of the bill as bigots, xenophobes, nazis, etc., and a tiny fringe group at that.  In contrast, the opponents of the bill are portrayed as energized, righteously angry, and NUMEROUS.  I wonder if MiniTru learned from the last amnesty debate not to show illegals waving Mexican flags at rallies…

    McQAmericans do not see it as “fair” that illegals are protected from the consequences of their illegal entry and they’re stuck with the bill supporting their health care and schooling.

    This is what the illegals and their supporters refuse to understand.  Many Americans do not want illegal immigration reduced / ended because illegals are (mostly) Hispanic: they want illegal immigration curbed because they resent paying to provide services for people who do not themselves pay taxes.  As McQ says, it’s a case where “fairness” arguments backfire on the libs: it’s not fair for people to share in the benefits of being an American when they are here illegally.

    My guess is that the rallies and demonstrations are going to irritate many more Americans (native-born AND legally immigrants) than it energizes illegal supporters.  It’s bad enough for people to know that illegal immigrants are soaking up services and tax dollars that ought to go to Americans, but to be badgered about it and to be accused of being a bigot if they object to it is even more infuriating.

    • Not to mention the videos showing many of the the pro-immigrants during these rallies to be fascists who have no interest in any rights but their non existent right to be US citizens without the bother of standing official process.

  • Are we seeing the beginnings of second civil war?  The initial ingredients seem to be falling in place

    Major State’s Rights issues in both
    Significant upset over elected President and his policies
    Major social issue to hide behind; slavery vs illegal immigration

    I’m sure that is likely an overstatement, but things are getting a bit ugly out there.  Say we throw in some voter fraud in November…  a we’ve got one dangerously boiling pot.
     

  • These massive rallies are designed to provoke.  They want a true racist moment they can play up on the news to help the Dems in the elections.

    It’s all Kabuki.

    • From what I’ve already seen of the pro “immigrant” rallies in AZ, the racist footage they get they won’t show, because it’s the rally participants who are having racist moments.

      La Raza doesn’t translate to “we want to be US Citizens”.    This from the La Raza web site, because obviously dumbass gringos (moi) might literally translate it,  ya know….
      “The term “La Raza” has its origins in early 20th century Latin American literature and translates into English most closely as “the people” or, according to some scholars, as “the Hispanic people of the New World.” The term was coined by Mexican scholar José Vasconcelos to reflect the fact that the people of Latin America are a mixture of many of the world’s races, cultures, and religions. Mistranslating “La Raza” to mean “the race” implies that it is a term meant to exclude others. In fact, the full term coined by Vasconcelos, “La Raza Cósmica,” meaning the “cosmic people,” was developed to reflect not purity but the mixture inherent in the Hispanic people. This is an inclusive concept, meaning that Hispanics share with all other peoples of the world a common heritage and destiny.” - my emphasis.
      Well, if it’s all about ‘the cosmic people’ then they don’t need to remind anyone there is any significance to being  hispanic, do they?   Unless there IS some significance to being hispanic that keeps them apart from ‘other peoples of the world’.   Here in the US, we (used to) call people who want to share a common heritage and destiny through citizenship ‘Americans’, and we have rules for accomplishing that, the same as they no doubt do in their own countries in Latin America and elsewhere.

      • I wonder if the rallies will be characterized as “all brown” as the Tea Parties were tagged as “all white?” And I have to wonder if the press will go African-American hunting like they did with the TPs (minus, of course, Al Sharpton and his posse)? If they find them will they ask if they feel “uncomfortable” attending? Furthermore, I wonder if those that attend immigration rallies will be called, thugs, brownshirts, racists, fascists and astro-turf by our politicians?

        • There’s a magic ‘other race’ number than needs to show up – for the Tea Party at least 10% of the number MUST have be African American, and the proper demographic % for any others – or else it’s “all white”, or “largely white” or “mostly white”, or “predominatly white” or some other code phrase indicating white bed sheet wearing, cross burning, grand dragon sedan chair carrying racist (in case you didn’t know….) Ku Klux Klansmen with ropes, torches, bibles, potato salad and twinkies.

          For these rallies, I’ll wager 2 “white people” (whatever the hell THAT means….) per 2000 ‘brown people’ (again same issue as the ‘white people’) would constitute ‘multi-racial support’.

        • McQ-

          Your hilarious rhetorical questions crack me up!

      • In case it’s not obvious, footage I’ve seen from AZ has been alternative media, not mainstream source.

  • And….in case no one bothers to read the Wiki entry on Mexican immigration – here’s what you get in Mexico if you’re apprehended for being an ‘undocumented worker’.

    “Illegal entry into the country is equivalent to a felony punishable by two years’ imprisonment. Re-entry, after deportation is punishable by ten years’ imprisonment.”

     

  • All of this comes back to the basic question … of what value is a US citizenship ?
    When “undocumented” masses get the same rights as citizens … of what value is a US citizenship ?
    Oh yeah, you don’t get harassed by your landlord and employer and you get to go to the “green line” when re-entering the country.
    I’m sure you can get a better answer to the question from a new US citizen than you can from any politician in DC.

  • Personally I think Arizona’s new law is a great law. We all recognize that we need to allow a better path to citizenship, but since the state can’t grant the citizenship the only way we can protect ourselves is to enforce harsher penalties against all illegal immigrants. We can’t sort the good and the bad until the Federal government acts. Instead of protesting our actions people should be petitioning their congressmen to reform immigration laws. We just want to keep the criminals and drug dealers out of our state.