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Mexican President Calderon – flaming hypocrisy from the lawn of the White House

Anyone who reads this blog for more than a day or so is probably familiar with the fact that I’m not a big fan of hypocrisy.  Especially when it presents itself as self-righteously as it did yesterday in the words of Mexican President Calderon.  Specifically, this paragraph:

In Mexico, we are and will continue being respectful of the internal policies of the United States and its legitimate right to establish in accordance to its Constitution whatever laws it approves.  But we will retain our firm rejection to criminalize migration so that people that work and provide things to this nation will be treated as criminals.  And we oppose firmly the S.B. 1070 Arizona law given in fair principles that are partial and discriminatory.

Take sentence one – a country that allows the wholesale illegal immigration of a large part of its citizenship into the United States is respectful of nothing concerning the internal policies of the US or it’s “legitimate right” to establish its laws.

Second sentence: pure bovine feces.  It’s a strawman – no law that I know of, either federal or state “criminalizes migration”.  It make it a crime to try to immigrate ILLEGALLY.  I.e. not go through the proper procedures as outlined in those law Calderon claims to so highly “respect”.

Last sentence – SB 1070 does not introduce “partiality’ or “discrimination”.  It enforces federal laws already on the record (for instance, federal law requires all legal immigrants to carry their immigration identification paperwork with them at all times).

The real hypocrisy, however, comes from Mexico’s own immigration laws.  If Arizona’s SB 1070 is “draconian” come up with a good description of these:

Mexico welcomes only foreigners who will be useful to Mexican society:

- Foreigners are admitted into Mexico “according to their possibilities of contributing to national progress.” (Article 32)

- Immigration officials must “ensure” that “immigrants will be useful elements for the country and that they have the necessary funds for their sustenance” and for their dependents. (Article 34)

- Foreigners may be barred from the country if their presence upsets “the equilibrium of the national demographics,” when foreigners are deemed detrimental to “economic or national interests,” when they do not behave like good citizens in their own country, when they have broken Mexican laws, and when “they are not found to be physically or mentally healthy.” (Article 37)

- The Secretary of Governance may “suspend or prohibit the admission of foreigners when he determines it to be in the national interest.” (Article 38)

Mexican authorities must keep track of every single person in the country:

- Federal, local and municipal police must cooperate with federal immigration authorities upon request, i.e., to assist in the arrests of illegal immigrants. (Article 73)

- A National Population Registry keeps track of “every single individual who comprises the population of the country,” and verifies each individual’s identity. (Articles 85 and 86)

- A national Catalog of Foreigners tracks foreign tourists and immigrants (Article 87), and assigns each individual with a unique tracking number (Article 91).

Foreigners with fake papers, or who enter the country under false pretenses, may be imprisoned:

- Foreigners with fake immigration papers may be fined or imprisoned. (Article 116)

- Foreigners who sign government documents “with a signature that is false or different from that which he normally uses” are subject to fine and imprisonment. (Article 116)

Foreigners who fail to obey the rules will be fined, deported, and/or imprisoned as felons:

- Foreigners who fail to obey a deportation order are to be punished. (Article 117)

- Foreigners who are deported from Mexico and attempt to re-enter the country without authorization can be imprisoned for up to 10 years. (Article 118)

- Foreigners who violate the terms of their visa may be sentenced to up to six years in prison (Articles 119, 120 and 121). Foreigners who misrepresent the terms of their visa while in Mexico — such as working with out a permit — can also be imprisoned.

Under Mexican law, illegal immigration is a felony. The General Law on Population says,

- “A penalty of up to two years in prison and a fine of three hundred to five thousand pesos will be imposed on the foreigner who enters the country illegally.” (Article 123)

- Foreigners with legal immigration problems may be deported from Mexico instead of being imprisoned. (Article 125)

- Foreigners who “attempt against national sovereignty or security” will be deported. (Article 126)

There are scads more you can read through that make what Calderon is squealing about seem like child’s play.

Calderon and Mexico are part of the problem, not part of the solution.  And feting this crew who come here and mischaracterized immigration in general and what is going on in Arizona while doing nothing to stop the problem is simply nonsense.  Until they begin to be part of the solution, they don’t deserve the time of day, much less a state dinner.   Until they step up to stem the tide of ILLEGALS we owe them nothing.  And the irony of having a immigration code of their own that is much more draconian than anything we have shouldn’t be lost in this either.  They don’t put up with what they demand we put up with and we ought to call them on that.

But we won’t.  Instead this administration will call out Arizona which has only attempted to enforce the laws the federal government refuses to do all the while Obama smiles and fetes the source of the problem and refuses to demand Mexico do anything on its end.

~McQ

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51 Responses to Mexican President Calderon – flaming hypocrisy from the lawn of the White House

  • The stand off between Obama and Arizona can only end one of two ways. Both of them are bad.

  • I’m under the impression that the US has some of the most lenient immigration/foreign worker laws in the world.  I may be wrong, anyone know?

  • From a libertarian point of view, should it be/is it a federal government’s domain to stop its people from entering another country illegally?  Wouldn’t that be the same effect as preventing them from leaving?  I’m not sure I’d task Mexico with the responsibility of directly tiding the flow of illegals into the US.  That seems like a bad precedent.

    • Steming the flow doesn’t necessarily mean standing at the border. How about some market reforms (tax cuts, credits, etc) that will spur innovation, employment and an economy that would make it attractive to stay home and earn a living there?

      • Have you read the book the Myth of the Rational Voter? One problem is that any one vote is pretty meaningless. Thus the voter may vote for something that just makes him feel good, rather than being good for the country, etc. (Sound familiar?) So, you can have millions of Mexicans vote for anti-market parties in Mexico (whooo I  feel good – stick it to the man!) and then they vote with their feet to  come to the market-oriented USA to work at a job. Admittedly, its probably easier to pick up and move to the USA than to reform Mexico.

    • The Mexican government printed up a comic book text on how to survive crossing the desert into the US. It also has done other things that essentially encourages illegal immigration (i.e., inform its citizens that American ERs MUST provide medical treatment).

      I think it would be reasonable for Mexico to make some effort at preventing crossings where there is no actual border crossing station. That wouldn’t violate libertarian principles unless those libertarian principles dissregard borders. There are plenty of “hot spots” where the Mexican government could stop the staging of illegal border crossers at minimal cost. Since they complain of illegal “American” guns, they should have an incentive to interfere with unregulated/uncontrolled border crossings.

      • Correct, Don.  The Mexican government actively supports illegal immigration, and derives HUGE benefits from it.  It is unquestionably an important safety valve for a very dysfunctional culture, polity, and economy.  I read that something on the order of $1 billion flows to Mexico from illegals.  That would be a very substantial portion of its cash-flow annually.

  • The Mexican government reaps huge economic benefits from all the money sent back home by all those folks living and working in the U.S.
    The U.S. done a lot to help the Mexican people with jobs legally.  President Calderon, does NAFTA come to mind?   President Calderon does legal immigration come to mind?

  • Mexican Pres. Whoever (his name is of no interest to me, eff him) was interviewed on CNN about Mexico’s immigration policies, where he said among other things, yes Mexican police ask suspected illegals for papers, and they would deport those not in compliance with the law.

    Amazing.

  • We’re here in Austria and were talking about the anti-semetic rhetoric of the Nazis, and the code used to describe how many talked about Jews.  One student noted that the code was similar to how anti-Mexican bigotry gets talked about as “illegals,” trying to pretend  it’s just about the fact that the people are here illegally — lured here, quite often.   Bigotry is ugly, even in code.  Luckily, young people recognize it and are rejecting it.

    • Just curious, O Great Perceiver Of Hidden Racism…are you allowed to go about without papers in Austria?  Are you Austrian?

      Who’s doing that “luring” that compels people to come here in violation of our law?

    • Erb – sun shine – find body part where it doesn’t – find something appropriate, like your keyboard, and shove it there.

      I should gave a damn about an Austrian kid who’s country was happily complicit and complaint in rounding up people because of their religion and waving goodbye as they rolled off to be executed and NOW take lessons from them on bigotry?   Just because YOU are unable to think that anyone can honestly contest illegal immigration WITHOUT thinking it’s racial is YOUR problem and reveals YOUR prejudice, not mine, so I refuse to be lectured by you or anyone else any further on the subject, and freely engage insult mode, you twit.  I know why I want illegal immigration stopped, and it has nothing to do with ‘race’.

      While we’re on the subject of RACE- are you telling us “Hispanic” is a race now?  Are you telling us that “Hispanic” law enforcement officers who happen to be US Citizens, born and raised,  are racially profiling if they stop another Hispanic?  If they stop a car load of illegal Chinese running a red light and ask for papers, are they profiling?  Is EVERYONE from Mexico the same colo?  Tell us, are they all descendants of Cortez?  or all descendents of Montezuma?  Am I to understand that ‘white’ Mexicans won’t be asked for their papers?  Are are you unsure that there ARE ‘white’ Mexicans, and think they’re all ‘ brown people’.

      You and every other whiney no nothing mother loving liberal are acting like racist asses in presuming that everyone from Mexico looks THE SAME, or that only “Mexican looking’ (whatever the f* that means) people are here illegally.  Are the Mexicans themselves racists since they have more stringent immigration laws, and can freely ask you for your papers?    Try answering some of the questions for once, and not coming back with your evasive difficult question sidestepping Progressive liberal bullshit.

    • Ah, how I long for the comforts of an illegal in Austria – Austria, land that I love -
      “In general, there is no public social or medical support for illegally resident immigrants in
      Austria. Yet, they have access to social services such as health care, emergency health care,
      emergency shelter and legal support provided by NGOs and welfare institutions. Concerning
      employment, there are three different work permits for legally resident immigrants in Austria.
      In order to meet the needs of migrant labour, the amount of seasonal workers was increased
      and the concept of commuting was extended under the Aliens Act 2002. Further, the
      Government concluded bilateral agreements with Hungary and the Czech Republic, defining
      the numbers of both frontier workers as well as key professionals. However, there are no
      explicit provisions that would prevent immigrant workers from slipping into illegality after
      their work visa has expired.”

      “4. Social and Economic Situation, Political Participation
      In general, the daily life of illegally resident immigrants is characterised by the fear of being
      detected and consequently deported.
      This can cause psychological strains, which in turn can
      have a negative impact on their state of health. Loss of identity (especially for minors who
      live under false names), separation of families, insecure living conditions and lack of stability
      have been enumerated as problems of affected persons. Their precarious living-conditions can
      lead to extreme dependency on their employers, which is usually correlated to experiences of
      violence and exploitation, especially in insecure working conditions. Furthermore, even if
      ethnic networks play a pivotal role in helping to find accommodation and jobs, illegally
      resident immigrants tend to live in social isolation. There is no information available on
      whether illegally resident immigrants have found alternative ways to organise education and
      training either for themselves or for their children.”
      In Austria, illegally resident foreign nationals are not eligible to access the social security
      system (including health, accidental and pension insurance) and therefore do not enjoy any
      legal right to benefit from healthcare facilities
      . Legislation in Austria has no special provision
      concerning access to healthcare for illegally resident immigrants (see PICUM 2003: 34). Yet,
      the Austrian Law on Hospitals and Sanatoria38 orders every hospital to take in and treat
      injured patients whose health is in serious danger.39 Given that medical treatment is a service
      that incurs costs, medicating illegally resident and/or working immigrants consequently
      evokes several questions. Social and medical care for illegally resident immigrants is in most
      cases limited to urgent medical aid (Houben 1999: ii), which has to be paid privately as they
      cannot appeal to the public social insurance authority for cost reimbursement (PERCO 2004:
      22).40 (cf. chapter 3.4.2 on social services)
      “Even if the responsible provincial authority eventually tries to recover the costs by initiating
      legal action, irrecoverable costs have to be written off at the expenses of the budget of the
      responsible body running the hospital. Unfortunately, for a variety of reasons, reliable data is
      not available.41″
      I can go on, the housing, etc., but read it yourself.   Ah, Austria, clearly a haven for illegal immigrants.
      Be sure and tell that student buddy of yours his country is racist Scott.

      • Oh dealing with “undocumented” immigration starts at securing their borders…..
        “During the last 15 years, external border control, international police cooperation and
        information exchange have constantly been improved.”

    • So this guy drops by and basically calls everyone here, including the author of the post, a bigot and a racist. I guess I understand why he’s not banned for idiocy – he’s a good example of leftist idiocy to hold up for others to examine. But why he’s not banned for this kind of sh!t is beyond me.

      • Having a foil is important…plus, it’s FUN…

      • He’s just so over-the-top and clueless we’d have to invent him if he didn’t show up on his own.

        You just can’t ban an intellectual lightweight for acting like an intellectual lightweight, Grocky, anymore than you could get mad at a tiger for acting like a tiger (trust me there’s no intended inference that our favorite yahoo is any sort of “tiger”). He projects and parrots the left so well -despite his incessant claims to be a neutral observer – that it would be a crime to keep him from his despising public. Just when you think he’s hit a new low, he pulls out the shovel and begins excavating anew.

        Even better he’s a professor with a PhD which gives even more credence to the charges that bias and lunacy -not to mention obvious mediocrity – abide in and are rewarded by academia (a place where bigotry against the right is acceptable and diversity means tea in the faculty lounge as well as coffee). It is hilarious to watch him try out his latest attempt to appear erudite and well read (the quantum mechanics thing) and foul it up so badly that you have to clean your computer screen afterward.

        I mean, come on, we’re all big boys here and we don’t have to ban someone that’s obviously so unintentionally entertaining while being disastrous to his cause. And he’s so predictable. He’ll be back soon claiming he always conducts himself perfectly and never insults anyone and can’t understand why those that comment here must do so with him (along with the eye rolls and other drama he likes to inject into his uninformed commentary).

        Just wait.

    • Rats! He broke the code! I guess we will have to use another word.

      Putz. As Freud is alledged to have said, “Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar”.

      • As Freud is alledged to have said, “Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar”.

        Actually, that was Rudyard Kipling – “A woman is just a woman, but a good cigar is a smoke”. :-p

    • Erb you are a complete horse’s ass without a clue about what you’re talking about.  Ditto for that ‘student’.

      • At some point his liberalness might let him realize he called us all racists indirectly.  Course we’re supposed to be conservative thick skinned fly over country mouth breathers and we weren’t supposed to make the connection because he genuinely didn’t intend it, much.

        He just meant to come and enlighten the racists hereabouts by letting us know his view of how the country ought to work is superior to ours, not actually (rolls eyes) call us racists.

         

    • Erb-

      You’re an idiot.

      There’s a gigantic difference between the legitimate issue of an overload of illegal immigration causing all sorts of problems,  and just looking for an excuse to round up Jews.

      Cretin.

    • Nice. Scott has no argument, so it must be about race. I like the nazi twist. It is origional.

    • We’re here in Austria seeing historic sites and eating great food and generally having a once-in-a-lifetime trip, and I suddenly had the urge to check in with Qando. But it’s not because I’m obsessed with you guys and have to come here to talk down to you! Stop saying that!

      Anyway, we were talking about the anti-semetic rhetoric of the Nazis, and the code used to describe how many talked about Jews. One student noted that the code was similar to how anti-Mexican bigotry gets talked about as “illegals.” And don’t start up about how this country is the birthplace of the man that caused “Your papers, please” to become a cliche. Because they’ve grown way past that. Yes, it’s the end of history, and the Europeans have it all figured out, and they are definitely the closest societies to a leftist utopia, so just shut up about what they did when your grandfather was over there, just shut up about it.

      You’re trying to pretend it’s just about the fact that the people are here illegally — lured here, quite often. Yes, lured. Because those wogs are certainly not responsible for their own actions, and don’t start up with how their own country is a hellhole that forces them to look elsewhere for income, don’t start up about that! Why, the president of Mexico agrees with me about all this as he said in his speech to Congress. And I’m sure he’s doing his best to make Mexico into a leftist utopia, but he has to contend with our imperialism all the time (we showed our true imperialist colors when we invaded Iraq, which was the biggest foreign policy mistake in history, by the way), which I’m sure means he simply doesn’t have the time to investigate and lock up any corrupt officials.

      But it’s not just because they’re here illegally. It’s because you’re all bigots and racists, especially the ex-military basket cases who write the main articles, who are just wigged out from the stress. Yep, to add to the list that already includes you guys being Nazi thugs like Goebbels over global warming, and inbred and sterile and all that, you’re also racist bigots just like the Nazis. But of course, I don’t insult people. I just tell the obvious post-modern truth. Well, the multiple truth I like best, I mean.

      Bigotry is ugly, even in code. See, bigotry is like a quantum state. It gets mixed in with other things and superposes and gets locked into boxes with cats and stuff. I read an article in Newsweek about it, so I now feel completely qualified to lecture you dense righties in quantum physics in addition to lecturing you about social issues and foreign affairs. Which of course I am completely qualified to do because of my advanced degrees and my book which is definitely not from a vanity press that suckers leftist academics. And don’t start up about how I’m a professor at an obscure cow college that doesn’t even award PhDs! I’m still smarter than any of you thick righties! Besides, I find it fascinating to investigate your bigotry, and I’ll probably put a chapter on it in my new book “Should Right-Wing Political Philosophy Be Legal, Considering what Bigots, Racists, and Nazi Thugs They Are?”

      Luckily, young people recognize it and are rejecting it. Especially under the wise guidance of people like me, who explain continuously to them about the path to glorious leftist salvation and how dense righties block it all the time.

      • Hey hypocritical straw-man, is that why Austria has a “No Migration” policy? is that their self-righteousness on parade? The Austrians have ZERO tolerance for outsiders living amongst them, that petty much makes them the ultimate Bigot! Walk a mile in our sombrero and we’ll see how tolerant they are to undocumented workers, working for a fraction of their wages. Committing unspeakable crimes for which their leaders won’t prosecute and tell the electorate to go pound sand. I have an idea, why don’t you stay there amongst your kind.

    • Get back on your meds, Erb.

    • What about those people who have gone through the trouble of immigrating legally and resent those who try to take the easy way out by sneaking in?  Under what code would we file their bigotry?

    • What a joke! In the 1990′s Austria implemented a ZERO migration policy! I guess we can’t accuse you of bigotry when you hate everybody equally. I tried to find what sort punishment would be required to deter ALL migration, seems Austria is so proud, you folks scrubbed the internet of any reference to punishment. I can only assume it would have to be pretty draconian, if you feel you need to hide it so thoroughly. One thing you will find out quickly about Americans, we have little tolerance for hypocrisy. By the way: you want some our Mexicans? Illegally, of course. Yeah, Right, Thought not.

  • Apparently, two Hispanic “entrepreneurs” sporting “undocumented automatic weapons”  tried to avoid authorities and were shot dead in a Walmart parking lot (after killing two West Memphis policemen).

    • http://www.wmctv.com/Global/story.asp?S=12515206
      Son of the West Memphis chief among the dead.  He was part of a drug interdiction unit.  That area is a major drug route into the Mid-west and east.

      Two other cops were injured in the later shoot-out.

    • They were just bringing their wives lunch, if those West Memphis police hadn’t been racists this incident need never have occurred.
      /off sarc
      Erb can explain how they must have been racists, he are an expert, clearly.
      Meanwhile sane people will express their regrets to the families of the slain officers and demand the government do something about the border besides whine about racism.

      • Nah – its a low probability event and with his new expertice quantum mechanics, he doesn’t have to explain.

        • If I put him in the box with Schrodinger’s cat, will one of them eventually eat the other if the gas doesn’t get them first?  And who will know?

      • I haven’t seen anything authoritative about “Hispanic” perps, so it will be wise to withhold too much comment on that line.

        We do know that two other officers, one the about-t0-retire 71 year old Sheriff, were shot and wounded.  Reading between the lines, these killers had a lot of firepower, and were very free in deploying it.

  • Dead perps
    Dunno, that one in the foreground looks pretty young, and I can’t say I’m sure what his racial make-up would be.

    • I like how it looks like they still handcuffed the jack-hole…  :)

      “You have the right to remain silent – should you choose to wave that right we will shit ourselves for you’ll be one of the undead…”

  • Obama sought to show that he, too, is fed up with his own government’s failure to fix a system widely seen as broken.

    Obama appears to be losing Obama

    • Maybe he should run for president to solve these problems he’s fed up about.
       

  • there’s no reason for Mexico to not be Canada South or better standard of living-wise.  I don’t see the need to lifeboat something that is entirely a problem from Mexico’s political, legal, and economic choices.  Or in other words a human made disaster.

    • No, no, NO.  Mexico’s problems are due SOLELY to the United States.  Their wise president said so in an address to the Congress yesterday.  All the democrats gave him a standing-O, which means that he’s exactly right.  Mexico’s problem:

      American guns coming south due to the end of the Assault Weapons Ban.  Yep, Mexico was a paradise on earth, a land of milk and honey where children played with unicorns in fields of candy canes under azure skies… until the end of the AWB when nasty ol’ Americans started shipping these eeeeeevil guns with bayonet studs and pistol grips south, causing a crime wave in Mexico that has rocked their government and COULD even spread to the US.  The solution is not only to reinstate the AWB, but also sign a treaty with Mexico that will essentially eliminate the right of Americans to own guns, ammunition, or anything else icky that might hurt the children Mexico children in Mexico.

      / sarc

      Why do I think that the price of ammo is about to skyrocket again?

      • Ah, a variation of the “Bush’s fault gambit”.  Yes yes, well played.

  • I smell RATS in the White House!

  • 0bama has met with Calderon, but never with AZ Governor Jan Brewer.
    The denial is stunning.