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Irony– liberals not happy with deficit commission report because liberals “not at the table”?

Seriously – that’s essentially the Matt Yglesias take on the recommendations published by the co-chairs of the president’s debt commission:

I’m not surprised that liberals don’t like the Simpson-Bowles proposals and I’m not surprised that people who aren’t liberal disagree with liberals about that. But I am surprised that there are people out there professing to be surprised that liberals are hostile to the proposal. But what are liberals supposed to think? It’s a proposal hashed out between a conservative Republican and a moderate Democrat. So of course liberals don’t like it. Imagine the conservative reaction to a deficit proposal written by Lincoln Chaffee and Russ Feingold.

Or instead of a hypothetical, how does Yglesias think the GOP would feel about a health care law written only by Democrats? To use his words, “if you want Republicans to like a deal, you need to invite Republicans to the table”. The irony, however, seems to have escaped him.

That’s not to say that pursuing a conservative-moderate deal was a bad idea. Self-identified conservatives outnumber self-identified liberals by a large margin and moderates are a much bigger force in the Democratic coalition than in the Republican one. So if you want a deal, appointing an orthodox conservative Republican and a moderate Democrat from North Carolina makes a lot of sense. But it also makes sense that liberals won’t be happy with the results.

But when the GOP was unhappy with the health care law, it was because they hated poor Americans and were the lackeys of the insurance companies, right?

~McQ

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13 Responses to Irony– liberals not happy with deficit commission report because liberals “not at the table”?

  • Does that mean we can now say Yglesias is the pundit of “No” and liberals are the philosophy of “No”?  Can we also say they hate their children (if they figured out how to have any) because they want to leave thse children with a monstrous debt?

  • Oh, where to begin!

    1.  Gosh, after the dems have been in the saddle completely and totally for nearly two years, they are complaining that somebody else is coming up with how to fix the mess that we’re in?

    2.  “I won.”  ’nuff said.

  • if they figured out how to have any

    I think you mean “if they let any survive to full term”.

  • Matt Yglesias seem tame compared to his commenters, many of whom are in denial .. treating the whole notion of a deficit and national debt problem as a big joke or something that “somebody else” can pay.

    • Back in 2004, was it?, when Bush was working on SS reform, all the lefty pundits said SS was in rude financial health and not to worry. LOL. The Dems may think this is a golden opportunity to assault the GOP as taking away Grandma’s social security, but it will be key to ask them for their plan and to put an exact number on the tax increases they want. (Note they want the Tea Party to be specific, but have you seen the Dem plan to cut only Defense and raise taxes to the sky? Me neither.) Once they propose those taxes, they will be faced with the fact that this country was founded on an anti-tax basis. Or I could be wrong and everyone will love to pay tons of taxes to get back slightly less from our lords in government.

    • Hey, Little Dick Trumka tells us there’s PLENTY of money around…  No worries…

    • The deficit was a much more serious problem when it was Reagan running them up.  And Bush41.  And Dubya.  I’m sure that when the next GOP candidate is voted into the Presidency, the deficit will once again become a millstone around the necks of our poor children and grandchildren.

  • “But when the GOP was unhappy with the health care law, it was because they hated poor Americans and were the lackeys of the insurance companies, right?”

    Pretty much.  Ah, but you knew that, huh? It was a trick question, wasn’t it?

  • Matt Yglesias seems tame compared to his commenters, many of whom are in denial .. treating the whole notion of a deficit and national debt problem as a big joke or something that “somebody else” can pay.

    No, we don’t. Congress needs to pay back the money they stole for us or congress should be burned down with all the congresspeople and their families inside of it.

  • The Collective does not need to be consulted.  They need to be crushed (in the arena of ideas).
    They are dangerous people, and their ideals poisonous to liberty.

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