In this podcast, Bruce, Michael, and Dale discuss the Letterman/Palin controversy, and the situation in Iran.
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Subject(s):Humor, Iran, the growing opposition to health care reform and ABC’s planned informercial for the administration.
It seems to be an oxymoron, like “military intelligence”. Unfortunately, it’s not just an oxymoron with Republicans. Democrats are similarly humorless, they just respond badly when different oxen are gored. It seems to be a disease that patricularly affects the politically active, of aither party.
Steven Crowder makes the argument that conservatives should lighten up wqhen people like Letterman say something tasteless.
One of my goals in life is to watch political correctness shrivel up and die (as it should be for any true Conservative). I can’t do that however, if Republicans insist on resuscitating it back to life every time they want to act “offended.” Do we really want to be the person at the party around which everyone has to tiptoe around for fear of offending our sensibilities? Come on… We’re not supposed to be “that guy.” Leave that kind of crap to the Sean Penn pansies of the world.
It’s not an argument that some people want to hear, like. say Patterico:
I didn’t get outraged by Barack Obama’s Special Olympics joke (a position that, curiously, itself outraged some of the very people who today claim to back up Letterman’s right to tell an “edgy” joke). I just mocked Obama as someone less articulate than advertised — and then mocked him again. But there were those with ties to Special Olympians who were genuinely outraged. Their outrage wasn’t manufactured, and they weren’t being humorless — because, Crowder my pal, it wasn’t a funny joke.
Yeah. Because whenever you really want to get clued in the ultimate source of humor, who better than a prosecutor to track that down for you? I think we all know that those guys are just a barrel of laughs.
First of all those jokes were funny. When the people in question told them, they got laughs. So clearly, they had an audience. Moreover, in the case of Sykes and Letterman, you have two people who are genuinely funny. They make extremely comfortable livings at being funny professionally. So, either the free market is failing horrifically, or something else is going on besides their jokes not being funny.
And, frankly Patterico knows exactly what’s going on.
Proof that the way you react to a controversial joke is heavily influenced by your particular station in life…there were those with ties to Special Olympians who were genuinely outraged.
Sure they were. It hit too close to home. It’s always funny until someone loses an eye, or comes up with an extra chromosome. Then it’s tasteless and insensitive. And the Republican response to the Letterman/Palin thing is no different. Patterico even says so:
While I disagree with some of the more violent reactions to Letterman’s joke, I can understand them, and will not be quick to judge the sincerity of my fellow Republicans — who, remember, still have a deep wellspring of genuine outrage to draw on, stemming from the way Palin and her family were treated during the campaign.
Shorter Patterico: Life’s not fair!
Cry me a river.
First of all, anyone who knows anything about David Letterman knows that he doesn’t, and never has, countenanced anything even remotely related to pedophilia in his show’s comedy. And he has guys on like Louis CK and Jim Norton, who touch on subjects like that in their regular routines, who are told quite clearly that this is the case.
And, lest we forget, Sarah Palin does, in fact, have a daughter that got knocked up by an athlete, and ended up with an out-of-wedlock child. That’s clearly the reference Letterman was shooting for, and all this talk of “jokes about raping a child” are intentionally obtuse.
And please: don’t tell me I’m humorless if the joke I’m laughing at isn’t funny. Sometimes it’s really the other guy who lacks the sense of humor.
Well, sorry, but the problem is you. If the studio audience is laughing, then that’s a pretty good clue that the joke was funny. You just didn’t like it because it hit too close to home. But that’s about you, not the joke or the comedian.
And what, exactly is the principle you’re fighting for here? Not to be offended? Well, then you might as well sign on to the university speech codes, and all the other PC bullsh*t the Left pushes, because you want PC enforced just like they do. You just want your version of PC to cover different things. I say, emerods on both your houses.
The best statement I can think of is the one Sean Hannity made when DOn Imus was going through the “nappy-headed hos” fiasco. “If you don’t like it, turn the dial.”