The Cornyn Speech Posted by: Jon Henke
on Tuesday, April 05, 2005
The Left side of the 'sphere is terribly upset about this comment by Senator John Cornyn:
"I don't know if there is a cause-and-effect connection, but we have seen some recent episodes of courthouse violence in this country. . . . And I wonder whether there may be some connection between the perception in some quarters, on some occasions, where judges are making political decisions yet are unaccountable to the public, that it builds up and builds up and builds up to the point where some people engage in, engage in violence. Certainly without any justification, but a concern that I have."
Atrios has been all over it. Matt Yglesias writes that Senator Cornyn is "happy to try and use such incidents [of violence] to advance his own agenda." Jesse Taylor suggests it represents "the wholehearted push for the extreme movement". Balkinization suggests that Cornyn "intended to send the message that federal judges should watch what they do from now on". Off the Kuff "cannot express [his] contempt strongly enough". Norbizness calls it "Six Levels Below Absolutely Shameless". Josh Marshall writes that "what Cornyn is trying to suggest here seems genuinely outrageous".
It's shameful that a US Senator would say that political activities might lead to violence. How dare a polician try to stifle dissenting activity by coded threats?
Somewhere, I suspect Tom Daschle is Deeply Concernedtm.
"Rush Limbaugh and all of the Rush Limbaugh wannabes have a very shrill edge. And that's entertainment. We were told that even people who don't agree with them listen because they're entertaining," Daschle said.
"But what happens when Rush Limbaugh attacks those of us in public life is that people aren't satisfied just to listen. They want to act because they get emotionally invested. And so, you know, the threats to those of us in public life go up dramatically, on our families and on us, in a way that's very disconcerting," he said.
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"You know, we see it in foreign countries and we think, 'Well, my God, how can this religious fundamentalism become so violent?' Well, it's that same shrill rhetoric, it's that same shrill power that motivates. Somebody says something and then it becomes a little more shrill the next time. And then more shrill the next time. And pretty soon it's a foment that becomes physical in addition to just verbal," said Daschle.
UPDATE: There's a lot of dumbassery in the comments here, and at blogs elsewhere, so pehaps I should spell this out in small words. (yes, I'm annoyed)
1: Senator Cornyn did not advocate violence. In fact, he said the violence was "[c]ertainly without any justification".
2: I did not indicate ANYWHERE in this post that I agreed with Cornyn's take on the role or actions of the judiciary. Frankly, that's a position I think both Republicans and Democrats tend to advocate when it suits their interests.
Haven't We Heard That There Are NO EXCUSES For Terrorism Or Terrorist Threats?
Well, no shit, Sherlock. But who made excuses for violence? Cornyn expressed a concern that there might be a reason for the violence. That in no way implies an excuse.
You might recall the 9/11 Commission, which concluded the terrorists do not hate our freedom, "they hate our policies". One wonders if Mr Gandelman sprung into action to condemn the 9/11 Commission, writing "There Are NO EXCUSES For Terrorism". Of course he didn't. He didn't because questioning root causes is NOT THE SAME THING AS OFFERING EXCUSES.
Damn. That's such a simple concept.
4: Gandelman also says I cited an "old, also irresponsible Tom Daschel quote". Well, no. I cited an old, silly Tom Daschle quote. I don't think it's irresponsible at all, though opinions apparently differ.
"THERE'S BEEN SO MUCH DISREGARD FOR CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLES IN CONGRESS, that I wonder if it might not lead some people to want to lynch Senators in the majority?"
Are you seriously suggesting that, were Senators being attacked by citizens, we wouldn't be speculating on the reasons for those attacks? Every damned time some guy gets close to the White House with a gun, flies a plane around the mall, etc...we hear about his motivations for a week afterward. But for judges, we're supposed to pretend there can be no 'root causes'. Child, please.
6: The analogy is very simple:
Both Cornyn and Daschle were speculating on the "root cause" of violence against government officials.
Both Cornyn and Daschle placed the blame on their political opponents. (Republicans seeing "activist judges" as a thing to oppose; Democrats thinking the same of right wing talk radio)
Neither Cornyn nor Daschle had a scintilla of proof.
7: I didn't react with outrage, because I just don't think it's all that outrageous to speculate that there might be, you know, a cause of violence.
8: Neither what I wrote, nor what Cornyn/Daschle said, excuses violence against judges, nor does it suggest that judges "deserve" it. To suggest otherwise is pure foolishness.
9: But if you disagree, by all means, please start by condemning the 9/11 Commission.
UPDATE II: Thank god for James Joyner, a rare voice of sanity, while all about us lose their heads in their haste to jump on the condemnation wagon...
One would think this axiomatic rather than controversial. Violence is often an expression of frustration. That the controversial decisions might engender violence is hardly surprising.
UPDATE III (McQ): Apparently the Cornyn controversy made the CNN blog segment on Judy Woodruff's "Inside Politics" and QandO, among others, got a mention. Hat tip to Trey Jackson at Jackson's Junction for the tip and providing the video link.
UPDATE IV [Jon Henke]: Everybody else seems to be rushing to condemn Cornyn for saying...well, a lot of things that he didn't actually, you know, say. Fortunately, a couple sane voices remain...
...in context, Sen. Cornyn's remarks are actually CONSISTENT with your observation, Prof. Althouse. He's not commending or endorsing the people who "understand [little] of the reasons judges decide cases the way they do." But he's certainly commenting on the fact that many people don't understand why judges decide cases the way they do, and observing, admittedly speculatively — with concern and alarm, not approval — that the misunderstandings of some of those people may turn to frustration that could potentially turn to violence. And how does he characterize these hypothetical misunderstandings and actions? As being "certainly without any justification"!
Cornyn's primary mistake here is not advocating violence as some people have claimed—to the contrary, he correctly says attacks on judges are without justification—but saying something that can be easily misinterpreted.
It's "The Politics of Who can be the Most Outraged".
MORE: Red State has context. The bloodthirsty destroyer of the Judiciary apparently also used phrases like "I have the greatest respect for our judiciary", and "they should use that independence that has been given to them in order to resist politics", and "I know we all agree is important today to preserve that independence so as to preserve that judicial function..."
But let's not let context seep into the execution, or anything. Off with his head!
Umm, the two are not parallel. Daschle is talking about fomenters of violence. Cornyn is talking about victims of violence bringing it upon themselves.
Both were speculating on the "root causes" of violence seen against officials. Both placed the blame on their political opponents. Neither had a scintilla of proof.
This is a very tenuous connection you are trying to make here.
Rush Limbaugh is a radio personality who uses rhetoric to incite his listeners into action.
John Cornyn is a US Senator who is using his position of authority to justify actions against the judicial branch of the US Government.
You say they were speculating on the "root causes" of violence against officials, neither one is specifically advocating violence, it is just the latter is providing cover.
Additionally, since when did the judicial branch become a political opponent?
The judiciary merely interprets the laws created in the legislature, in respect to the Constitution of the United States.
I hardly think I need to provide this lesson on the structure of our government.
Can a right winger ever react to an outrage by his own side by actually saying "wow, that’s really beyond the pale annd ought not to have been said" or must you always try, no matter how lamely, to play the "but a Democrat once said something vaguely similar!" game? Just wondering.
How many friggin’ times with the false moral equivalency? Will you please stop it.
Read what Cornyn had to say just before the remarks you quote, remarks you leave out. (Surprise). They show there is no moral equivalency.
"It causes a lot of people, including me, great distress to see judges use the authority that they have been given to make raw political or ideological decisions. [Sometimes] the Supreme Court has taken on this role as a policymaker rather than an enforcer of political decisions made by elected representatives of the people."
Cornyn includes himself among those who are caused great distress and - according to his own words - those caused great distress may be inclined to resort to violence. In that sense, he is saying to those out there who might be so inclined to use violence against public officials that he is one of them, that he understands them, and that their feelings of victimhood - which lead to the violence - are somehow legitimate because they are shared by their elected leaders.
Daschle made no similar assertion. He did not say that he personally felt aggrieved, and that such aggravation could lead to violence by those who share the same point of view. I don’t think any sane person who read Daschle’s words would come to such a conclusion.
It is insane that you would make a lame attempt to say in this instance that the "other side is doing it too." There is no moral equivalency here. What is even more disturbing is that this is the first thing that comes to your mind.
At what point does Atrios et al ever mention the growing actual violence of the left against the right? Kristol and Buchannan were just assaulted recently, to their amusement.
The tangential view of this discussion would lead any neutral observer to believe that the Left believes that judges should be activists and/or the Right believes judges are needlessly activists.
As a libertarian-conservative who voted for Bush in ’04, and who found this site when Reason linked to the call for a neolibertarianism—an effort I strongly approve of—I wish to divorce myself utterly from Jon Henke’s comments. Sen. Cornyn made his remarks in the context of the murder of a judge and a judge’s family members, and in the context of death threats against George Greer, the FL probate judge who presided over the Schiavo case. Greer is under constant armed guard, and all over the ’net one can find comments expressing satisfaction and even hope that both Greer and Michael Schiavo, living in fear, meet up with, er, consequences.
A U.S. senator has essentially said judges bring it on themselves. He is providing apologia for every nut out there that might off a judge, and doing nothing to quell the hysteria that has caused Greer’s life to be in danger. This atmosphere is toxic to the rule of law, which is the foundation of a free, peaceful and prosperous people.
I abhor Cornyn’s comments, and reject Henke’s analysis of them.
P.S. It isn’t just the left that is outraged. Do see Instapundit.
daschle’s statement not only does not mirror cornyn’s, it actually condemns statements just such as those that cornyn is making.
btw, just how much of a dumbass is this cornyn? the two cases of recent violence against the judiciary involved a rape charge and a dismissed malpractice suit. gotta stop those runaway judges.
It’s shameful that a US Senator would say that political activities might lead to violence. How dare a polician try to stifle dissenting activity by coded threats?
Mona: That’s the extent of Jon’s analysis. Did you not get the implied "tongue-in-cheek"? Jon is making nothing more than a tu quoque observation and condemning both speakers with the same sword. I fail to see any justification offered for Cornyn’s remarks. If anything, Jon was lambasting the lefty commenters for their one-sided affrontery.
MK: There’s no moral equivalency? Why, because you say so? I’m not sure why you believe you have any authority on the matter that we should all just take your word for it.
Cornyn neither said nor implied that he was one of those who was moved to make his intense disagreement with some judges known to said judges through violent acts. He did try to suggest, rather ineptly, that such judges have disregarded the will of "the people" to the point that "the people" see no other choice but violence. It’s a stupid and morally bankrupt call to arms by Cornyn, intended to rally support for whatever legislation is proposed to "reign in the judiciary." So to was Daschle’s inane argument—that the Limbaughs of country were jeopardizing the safety of the right-thinking folk who vote Democrat—a call to arms of the lefties to rally behind whatever measures seemed to necessary to muzzle those nasty Swift Boat people.
In both cases, fear of violence was used to rally support for the politician’s measures to prevent that violence. Both instances were cynical and unwarranted. Both cases involved morally specious arguments and motives. If you think that one was morally OK and the other was not, then Jon is speaking to you.
Mona: That’s the extent of Jon’s analysis. Did you not get the implied "tongue-in-cheek"? Jon is making nothing more than a tu quoque observation and condemning both speakers with the same sword. I fail to see any justification offered for Cornyn’s remarks. If anything, Jon was lambasting the lefty commenters for their one-sided affrontery
I made a value-neutral equivalency. At any rate, I’ve updated the post to explain a bit to the people/bloggers who seem to think I’m excusing Cornyn because Daschle did it, too. I don’t find much of anything particularly wrong with speculating that violence may have had a cause.
I’m just amazed that the whole existence of cause/effect relationships has to be explained to people.
In both cases, fear of violence was used to rally support for the politician’s measures to prevent that violence. Both instances were cynical and unwarranted. Both cases involved morally specious arguments and motives. If you think that one was morally OK and the other was not, then Jon is speaking to you.
If you think both were acceptable, or that both were unacceptable, we’re on roughly the same page.
MK: There’s no moral equivalency? Why, because you say so? I’m not sure why you believe you have any authority on the matter that we should all just take your word for it.
Actually, I explained why - you obviously didn’t bother to read my post, so I will shorten it.
Daschle did not count himself among the aggrieved by the government; he said he could be a target. He stated his concern with the kind of rhetoric that would encourage people to make him a target.
Cornyn, on the other hand, counted himself not among the targeted, but among those distressed by the government, and said those who are distressed may be resorting to violence as a result of their distress. In that sense, he was attempting to legitimate their distress by counting himself among them. And to the extent he does, he encourgages the violence, even if he says he is against it. ("You and I are victims. Our collective victimhood could lead some to violence. I am not advocating it, of course. But I believe it could lead some to commit violence.")
It kind of reminds me of lawyers who can’t tell someone to break the law, but who can tell them what would happen if they did. ("By the way, I know you did not ask this, but I can’t tell you to run to Mexico, but if you did ....") What’s the message? Run fool.
Cornyn is simply playing word games. Only an idiot could not figure out what his actual message is.
No - his intent is not to advocate violence. His intent to intimidate the judiciary through the implied threat of violence. (DeLay said something similar the other day.) The threat of violence is not an end, merely a means to it. The end, of course, is to force judges to make decisions Cornyn and his ilk want.
What other purpose could his words possibly serve? Do you really believe there was another purpose? Really?
MK: There’s no moral equivalency? Why, because you say so? I’m not sure why you believe you have any authority on the matter that we should all just take your word for it.
Actually, I explained why - you obviously didn’t bother to read my post, so I will shorten it.
Not only did you not shorten your argument, it still doesn’t make any sense, and you still seem to be oblivious to the fact that moral problem involved here is not who the speaker aligned himself with. The moral problem is raising the spectre of violence (real in Cornyn’s case; imagined in Daschle’s) in order to gather support for one’s political agenda. It’s called "fear-mongering" for short.
Even if we were to grant your assertion that because Cornyn finds himself aggrieved by judges’ alleged activism, as do those (according to Cornyn) who committed violence against two judges in particular, that somehow is "encourag[ing] such violence" [I wonder if you feel the same way about those who oppose Israeli policies and Palestinian suicide-bombers?], by what measure does that acquit Daschle? At least in Cornyn’s case there were actual violent acts to allude to for his political purposes. In Daschle’s case, not only were there no such acts, there weren’t even any threatened acts. Daschle impugned those who differed ideologically with him, and openly challenged the policies of Democrat candidates, by accusing them of fomenting violence. As with Cornyn, he was doing it to rally support for his political agenda. The immorality of the statements by both Cornyn and Daschle was in the intent of the remarks (playing on peoples’ fears), not in the substance (suggesting causes of violence).
If the crux of your argument is, as it seems to be, because Cornyn is (according to you) somehow sympathetic to the reasons why the two judge-killers did their deeds, Cornyn is encouraging such violence to happen, where’s your evidence? No such murders have happened since then. Do you really think they will? Cornyn certainly didn’t condone or suggest that such behavior was desireable or warranted. Of course, being the idiot that I am, I may have missed his coded message. But still I wonder, isn’t the logic of your argument exactly the same as:
* If you are against the Iraq War you are on the same side as Saddam;
* If you endlessly search for the "root causes" of 9-11 you are only excusing the actions of the terrorists;
* If you question the policies of the President you are on the same side as the terrorists;
Dale Franks writes: "Maybe Cornyn’s not being twisted and evil.
Maybe he’s just an idiot. "
That is Jonah Goldberg’s take on it at The Corner. He thinks it might be stupidity rather than malice, but that Cornyn’s remarks appear to be indefensible. (As I said, it isn’t just the left that is outraged.) I can’t quite figure out the tag protocols here or I’d be linking.
I live in Cornyn’s district. I think if you apply basic principles learned in a JC sophomore business course, you will discover the reason for Cornyn’s statement.
Content of the statement is really not that important, the unwashed masses will forget,or never take the time to study the content.
The important thing is to get that advertising as a Senator who wants something done about our ’activist judicial system’.
I live in Cornyn’s district. I think if you apply basic principles learned in a JC sophomore business course, you will discover the reason for Cornyn’s statement.
Content of the statement is really not that important, the unwashed masses will forget,or never take the time to study the content.
The important thing is to get that advertising as a Senator who wants something done about our ’activist judicial system’.
"This atmosphere is toxic to the rule of law, which is the foundation of a free, peaceful and prosperous people."
I must assume you mean the atomosphere of unelected, elitist, Black Robed Judges striking down the laws of the representatives of free people, right? For what is truly toxic to the rule of law is when people cannot be ruled by those they elect, and when the laws that are passed are struck down at a whim.
If you truly believe that decisions like those striking down the death penalty are really made based on reasoned judicial interpretation, and not on the whim of a justice’s own policy preferences, then you’re an idiot. An IDIOT. Yes, an idiot. Because in this day and age, it is hopelessly naive to believe that a Court, in a constitutional case, will do anything OTHER than what it wants. If you’ve ever read a dissent by Scalia, you know that 9 times out of 10, the Court makes up its mind based not on how the Constitution reads or how it was lived for 200 years of our history, but instead based on what they want.
And that is the real threat to the rule of law. Americans fought a revolution because they were denied representation. It’s not surprising that people want to avoid that from happening again.
In Daschle’s case, not only were there no such acts, there weren’t even any threatened acts. Daschle impugned those who differed ideologically with him, and openly challenged the policies of Democrat candidates, by accusing them of fomenting violence. As with Cornyn, he was doing it to rally support for his political agenda
How do you know that? Answer: You don’t. Daschle said he and his family received such threats. Maybe he is lying. But how do you know? You don’t. And to imply you do makes you seem dumb.
Of course, his office did receive anthrax in October 2001, return address unknown.
But again you only make the point. Daschle was speaking as a target, asking for the rhetoric to be toned down. Cornyn was identifying with the perpretrators, exclaiming that he, like them, was distressed and he understood their distress.
Let’s just take Daschle at his word for a moment. Right wing crazies are threatening you and your family. You ask that right-wing propagandists take it down a notch. How in the world is that "fear mongering" (your term)?
If the crux of your argument is, as it seems to be, because Cornyn is (according to you) somehow sympathetic to the reasons why the two judge-killers did their deeds, Cornyn is encouraging such violence to happen, where’s your evidence? No such murders have happened since then
For what is truly toxic to the rule of law is when people cannot be ruled by those they elect, and when the laws that are passed are struck down at a whim.
We are not ruled by "those we elect", we’re ruled by the Constitution, which just so happens to empower the judiciary you view as some sort of alien parasite imposed on the American polity. But hey, if Republicans want to run against Article III, I got no problem with that, and neither will Speaker Pelosi.
Sydney Carton writes: "An IDIOT. Yes, an idiot. Because in this day and age, it is hopelessly naive to believe that a Court, in a constitutional case, will do anything OTHER than what it wants. If you’ve ever read a dissent by Scalia, you know that 9 times out of 10, the Court makes up its mind based not on how the Constitution reads or how it was lived for 200 years of our history, but instead based on what they want.
And that is the real threat to the rule of law. Americans fought a revolution because they were denied representation. It’s not surprising that people want to avoid that from happening again."
As it happens Mr. Carton, I’m a lawyer, and I often agree with Justice Scalia. In my strong opinion, Roe v. Wade was wholly unjustified, and Scalia’s dissent in Casey v. Planned Parenthood (which largely affirmed the result of Roe and its companion case, Doe v. Bolton) was sheerly brilliant.
But I disagree that every or even most decisions issuing from our courts are evidence of judicial activism or tyrannical rule by the Black-Robed. And the undue hysteria that has come about in the wake of the Schiavo matter is truly frightening, especially given that Judge Greer is living under death threats and armed guards, and that a federal district court judge in Illinois just lost family members when a party she ruled against killed them. It was a med mal case, for chrissakes—where the judicial activism?
Cornyn’s comments are execrable in this context. The threats against Greer and the deaths of Judge Lefkow’s mother and husband have *NOTHING* to do with judicial activism. His linkage of that issue to these events is beyond appalling, especially in light of Judge Greer’s (and likely also the federal judges who did not rule as some would like in the Schiavo matter) plight. Sure, he states these events are not justifiable, but they are oh-so-understandable in light of judicial activism.
Bull. We are a nation of laws, and most day-to-day judicial decisions are not sexy examples of judicial activism; they are the bedrock of peaceful resolution of disputes. Linking violence threatened and committed against judges to judicial activism, especially under current circumstances, is misguided at best.
This is a time for a statesman to calm the fires of murders of judges (or murders of their family) and death threats, not to suggest they have a basis in legitimate umbrage. Cornyn failed that role of statesman miserably.
Gary C—I didn’t know SENATORS had DISTRICTS. The Monk must be losing his mind because he thought he lived in Cornyn’s STATE.
Jon—I think you have the right of this. The howling masses have been able to mentally Dowdify the statement to leave off the ’certainly not justified’ language.
Mona, suggesting a "basis in legitimate umbrage" does not justify unlawful behavior. Words have meanings and in much of this discussion in the comments "justify" is being used entirely incorrectly.
A justification for a course of action demonstrates adequate grounds for or fully vindicates that course of action. NOTHING IN CORNYN’S STATEMENT JUSTIFIES MURDERING JUDGES.
Indeed, claiming that Cornyn is trying to "use" the violence to get the judges to rule in ways he approves is completely antithetical to Cornyn’s statement. Instead, the statement is an acknowledgement of the feelings that many people have that judges are erroneously and willfully misconstruing the Constitution (that they are sworn to protect and defend, Zorro, and which allows their removal by impeachment if they fail to do so) while concurrently signalling that the violent manifestation of such feelings is unlawful.
If you want to delude yourself into thinking that the business of judges nowadays is not Power but is rather serving the interests of democracy, you go right ahead. I have not the power to cure blindness. The fact remains that the legislative efforts of hundreds of elected representatives that represent millions of voters were wiped out at the whim of Justice Kennedy, who decided that it would’ve been icky to have to face up to his Euro-trash friends when discussing the American death penalty. And there’s not a damn thing you or anyone else can do about it. NOTHING. Invincible, unelected, elitist Black Robed Masters.
Cornyn was speaking entirely to this problem. It’s unfortunate that the whole of his speech is disregarded over his worries that deluded nutcases might take this very real problem as license to engage in violence. But then again, if the left, and if you, dispute the very existence of a problem, then you’ll merely see this speech as a mask for violence, which is literally pitiful. Please, wake up and smell the coffee, for your own sake.
I don’t think Cornyn’s statement warrants much concern. It was conjecture just like Larry Summers’ controversial speech at Harvard was conjecture. I think the critics in both situations are acting similarly. They seem to be motivated by an agenda more than true outrage.
Nonetheless, Cornyn’s attempt to associate recent courthouse violence with judicial activism is pretty ridiculous. Neither the sociopathic rapist in Atlanta nor the suicidal guy in Chicago committed murder because they were outraged by judicial activism. That makes Cornyn’s statement stupid, but it should also preclude someone from accusing him of inciting violence against "activist" judges. There has been no recent violence directed against "activist" judges in response to their "activism". Instead, the recent acts of violence have been committed against judges who had the bad luck of being assigned cases with psycopaths as parties.
When it comes to judicial activism, the conservatives on the Rehnquist court take the cake. Here’s a recent summary from another source:
1. The Rehnquist Court has ruled that Congress lacks the power to give citizens the right to sue the federal government for unlawful action under environmental statutes. In so doing, the court invalidated, in effect, dozens of Congressional enactments, which purport to give citizens that very right. Constitutional history strongly suggests that Congress has the power that the court denied it. But in invalidating the citizens’ suit, the court ventured not a word about the history or about the framers’ original understanding. Indeed the court made no effort to connect its unprecedented decision to the text, structure, or history of the Constitution. This is particularly disturbing, because some of the key justices (most prominently Justices Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas) usually purport to base their decisions on what history tells us—and in invalidating federal legislation, Justices Scalia and Thomas have said nothing about history.
2. The court has struck down a number of affirmative action programs adopted at both the state and federal levels. Does the Constitution clearly forbid such programs? It does not. Justices Scalia and Thomas have expressed the greatest willingness to strike down affirmative action programs, but the history of the equal protection clause strongly suggests that such programs were not thought to be unconstitutional. To date, no one on the court has discussed the relevant history in an opinion.
3. The court has struck down a number of state and federal efforts to regulate commercial advertising. Justice Thomas has gone so far as to suggest that commercial advertising should receive the same level of constitutional protection as political dissent—and the Rehnquist Court has unquestionably moved in his direction. But the idea that the Constitution provides strong protection to commercial advertising is novel, and the court has made no effort to show that the idea is compelled by the original understanding, or any plausible understanding, of the Constitution.
4. The court has used the idea of state sovereign immunity to strike down a number of congressional enactments, including parts of the Age Discrimination in Employment Act and the Americans With Disabilities Act. In doing so, the court acknowledged that its decisions are not based on the text of the Constitution.
5. Section 5 of the Fourteenth Amendment gives Congress the power to "enforce, by appropriate legislation," the provisions of that amendment. In a remarkable, precedent-busting series of decisions—striking down the Religious Freedom Restoration Act (which required employers to justify, in strong terms, any practices that interfered with religious practices), the Violence Against Women Act (which gave victims of gender-motivated violence a right to sue in federal court), and part of the Americans With Disabilities Act—the Rehnquist Court has dramatically reduced Congress’s power under Section 5. It has effectively concluded that Congress is limited to preventing conduct that, in the court’s own view, would violate the Fourteenth Amendment—and has thus forbidden Congress from legislating on the basis of its own views about what that amendment means. The court has reached these conclusions, and insisted on its own supremacy, without seriously grappling with pre–Rehnquist Court precedents or the history of the Fourteenth Amendment.
6. For the first time in 50 years, the Rehnquist Court has struck down federal legislation as beyond congressional power under the Commerce Clause. In the most important case, the court struck down a key provision of the Violence Against Women Act, notwithstanding extensive testimony before Congress, and extensive findings by Congress, that sex-related violence has a significant effect on interstate commerce.
Conservatives raised barely a peep following nearly all of these decisions. And yet they constitute the court substituting its will for that of elected officials. I certainly did not see any movement on the right to curtail the power of the judiciary following these decisions. It’s only when the right wing sees decisions it doesn’t like that it rails against the tyranny of the judiciary.
Hank Scorpio - "’must you always try, no matter how lamely, to play the ’but a Democrat once said something vaguely similar!’ game?"
Yes, idiotic statements made by Democrats are entirely relevant this non-issue because everything occurs in a context. Cornyn’s statement is no more outrageous or inappropriate than Daschle’s whining about non-existent violence, Byrd’s Nazi comments on the floor of the Senate or Reid’s claim on the Capitol steps that Republicans were assaulting the 1st Amendment and preventing debate of judicial nominees in considering a change to the filibuster rule. They are all acting like blow hard politicians. No one on either side of the political spectrum has been consistent enough in his/her condemnation of irresponsible statements made by politicians "on his/her side" to have any credibility when they condemn irresponsible statements made by politicians on "the other side".
Case in point, the attempts to differentiate Daschle’s comments from Cornyn’s. I’ve got a news flash for you geniuses, both statements are nonsense, have no basis in fact and were made in the foul political environment of Washington. I think it’s laughable that anyone is outraged by Cornyn’s statement. Those lefties who are outraged need to sniff some smelling salts, pull their panties out of their crack and get over it.
mkultra, -"Of course, his office did receive anthrax in October 2001, return address unknown."
What is the point of this reference? What relevance does that have to Dachle’s conservative talk radio accusation? Are you insinuating that a conservative, whipped up into a homicidal frenzy by Rush Limbaugh, was responsible for the Anthrax sent to Daschle? If so, to use your own junior varsity debate team argument, "But how do you know? You don’t. And to imply you do makes you seem dumb."
Come on, seriously, don’t you think there is a lot blame to go around for toxic atmosphere in Washington?
Democrats have accused Bush of everything from lying to get us into a war just so his cronies at Haliburton could get govt. contracts (has anyone actually seen Halliburton’s consolidated 10-K for 2003? They made a whopping <1% profit on those Iraq contracts) to planting a forged memo with a Democrat political hack with mental problems so that he would give them to the geniuses at CBS news who would then coordinate with the Kerry campaign in attacking his national guard record. At least Cornyn’s statement was conjecture, Robert "I loved the filibuster when I could use it against the civil rights act" Byrd affirmatively accused Republicans of using Nazi tactics and he’s never recanted.
Sen. Byrd is a buffoon. Sen. Reid is a liar. Sen. Cornyn’s statement was stupid. Nonetheless, it’s laughable that anyone is outraged by Cornyn’s statement. The atmosphere in Washington sucks, but it didn’t start with Cornyn and, unfortunately, it’s not going to end with him either.
The point here is that Sen. Cornyn decided to use these recent incidents to further the political push to confirm more right-wing judges. A man of his experience (TX Supreme Court, TX AG) and stature (Constitution Subcommittee chairman), added to the fact that these incidents received tremendous press coverage, could not be ignorant of the facts surrounding these cases. Yet he made the connection to argue that the judiciary must be changed for its own protection. Whoever cannot see that (considering the confirmation battles, nuclear option, and likely SC opening are looming) is the true "idiot."
The point here is that Sen. Cornyn decided to use these recent incidents to further the political push to confirm more right-wing judges. A man of his experience (TX Supreme Court, TX AG) and stature (Constitution Subcommittee chairman), added to the fact that these incidents received tremendous press coverage, could not be ignorant of the facts surrounding these cases. Yet he made the connection to argue that the judiciary must be changed for its own protection. Whoever cannot see that (considering the confirmation battles, nuclear option, and likely SC opening are looming) is the true "idiot."
I find this interesting. How many of you have actually read the speech? Not the WAPO’s truncated quotes, but the speech. He is not advocating or inciting anything. The speech is filled with respect for judges (he was one) and is asking whether judges are abdicating their responsibility. As an aside he mentions a concern (not an appreciation for, not an excuse for, not an implied threat of) a concern that the courts conduct lends itself to being used by extremists against it, including possibly even violence.
I suggest reading the whole essay (some of which I think is spot on, especially the use of foreign courts) to get a sense of the respectful, if strong critique he is giving. Here is a link.
Here is the quote with a little more context and less judicious WAPO editing, but it is even less remarkable when you read the whole speech as it is one line out of almost 5000 words! We have got to stop taking one lines out of long speeches and twisting them to show what moral idiots our opponents are. This was done to Bush and Kerry in the last election over and over. THE CAMPAIGN IS OVER. That many will not like the speech I understand, but it is no way advocating or using threats of violence.
“I believe the increasing politicization of the judicial decision making process at the highest levels of our judiciary has bred a lack of respect for some of the people who wear the robe. That is a national tragedy.
Finally, I don’t know if there is a cause-and-effect connection, but we have seen some recent episodes of courthouse violence in this country—certainly nothing new; we seem to have run through a spate of courthouse violence recently that has been on the news. I wonder whether there may be some connection between the perception in some quarters on some occasions where judges are making political decisions yet are unaccountable to the public, that it builds up and builds up to the point where some people engage in violence, certainly without any justification, but that is a concern I have that I wanted to share.”
Hear what he is saying. Whatever you think of his underlying point in the speech this comment is motivated by concern. He says the lack of respect for the judiciary is a national tragedy. Maybe a stretch, but doesn’t the equivocal wording imply he knows it is a stretch, a speculation? It is a relatively long piece, isn’t a little speculation of where our jurisprudence is leading okay? It comes near the beginning of the speech and isn’t brought up again in the next 4129 words! It doesn’t advocate for, sympathize with or justify anything. It shows he is thinking about what judicial behavior impact on our society may be. Wrong or right it is not in any way despicable.
Boy am I embarrassed. You updated the post before I actually posted what I wrote last night. Glad you guys got some feedback. Hopefully this nonsense about what Cornyn said will die.
Jon, as a lefty, I have no problems with Cornyn’s comments. I happen to believe it is perfectly legitimate to inquire into the sociological roots of violence without condoning the violence itself.
For a extended liberal defense of Cornyn’s comments, you might to want look at theseposts by Nathan Newman.
I’m going to speak in short sentences here. I’m from Texas, and we liked W when he was a moderate, before he sold out. Republicans want control of all three branches of the federal government. They used the Schiavo case to stir up the religious right to further their cause. Congress and the President both violated the 10th amendment of the US Constitution in a politically motivated attack on the judiciary. The whole plan backfired, and the American people are pissed. The "base" appeared non-stop on TV, all right. A bunch of hysterical, fanatical, "There will be HELL to Pay!!"freaks, making death threats against judges. Frist and others get it , and have backed off.
Cornyn’s desperately trying to tow the party line, and screwed up today. Trying to help Delay, who has been instrumental in getting all the money from corporations for Republicans (started in 1994, really took off in 2000) Hooooey, boy, those Republicans want to hang on to Delay. He’s their amoral cash cow, and they’ll do almost anything to keep him. They even changed the ethics rules of the senate, and fired the non-partisan guys that censured him. Oh, yes, I like these new moral values Republicans are giving us.
Delay is sounding very shrill, rather like Spencer Tracy’s character in "Inherit the Wind" and *desperately* trying to stick with The Party Plan, using the Sciavo tragedy to attack the judiciary, because he really needs a Wag the Dog to save his sorry corrupt political ass.
"We the Republicans, in order to create a more perfect Theocracy, so that we may manipulate the masses into re electing us .. do hereby nullify and rescind the 10th amendment of the Constitution in order to exploit Terri Schiavo for our attack on the judiciary, in the interest of stacking it with judges who will promote corporate, oops, we mean moral values..."
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