Oh, and if you see some hideous mistake...
You forgot an entire branch of the military. |
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By the way, it’s a really nice presentation... I didn’t mean to come off like such a jerk there. |
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Damn Dale, that was a lot of work. Thank for sharing it with us. |
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Excellent job! Often people miss that the rank insignia for O3-O5 is different between the Army/AF and the Navy/Marines, and that the insignia for General of the Army includes the eagle from the Great Seal, not just the 5 stars (the original purpose was to look like a Marshall’s insignia, after all).
Is a First Sergeant really an E9 now? FSG and MSG were both E8 for as long as I can remember, but the Army loves to change sergeant paygrades around.
Also, do the stars point "up" now for Senior/Master Chief Petty Officers? I could have sworn they pointed "down", but I’m no expert.
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May I suggest you put a permanent link to this somewhere on the web page. Very useful for non-military people like me who still want to have some clue what all this stuff means. I had gone looking for this type of thing once before, but yours is great. I’d like to be able to get back to it again sometime. |
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Is a First Sergeant really an E9 now? Nope. That was a typo.Also, do the stars point "up" now for Senior/Master Chief Petty Officers? No, they do point down..Not only that, but the stars for Command Master Chief and MCPON are Gold instead of white.
Fixes, fortunately, are easy. |
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May I suggest you put a permanent link to this somewhere on the web page. OK. Done. But you know, you can just hit CTRL +D while you’re viewing the page and bookmark it permanently in your browser. Just a suggestion. |
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It’s not a major error, but the Navy’s Patternmaker (PM), Missile Tech (MT) and Aviation Storekeeper (AK) rates have been disestablished. The AK’s all became Storekeepers (SK). I am not sure of what happened to the PM’s, although the rate was eliminated in 1997, or the MT’s, whose rate disappered in 2000. |
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Dale,
Very nice! I do notice what may be one missing insignia, however (depending on the criteria you are using for including badges and defining ranks, etc.).
The missing rank—actually, more of a designation/MOS distinction—is "Marine Gunner." From Wikipedia:
A Chief Warrant Officer, CWO2-CWO5, serving in the MOS 0306 "Infantry Weapons Officer" is designated as a special rank: "Marine Gunner". A Marine Gunner replaces the Chief Warrant Officer insignia on the right collar with a bursting bomb insignia. Other Warrant Officers are sometimes informally also referred to as "Gunner" but this usage is not considered correct.
"Gunner" designations were done away with in the 70s, but brought back in the early 90s. A Google search brought up some fairly recent promotion lists mentioning it, so I assume it is still back in use.
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You forgot an entire branch of the military. No, I didn’t. The Coast Guard is part of the Department of Homeland Security. The USCG certainly does God’s work, but, strictly speaking, aren’t actually part of the military, per se. |
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It’s not a major error, but the Navy’s Patternmaker (PM), Missile Tech (MT) and Aviation Storekeeper (AK) rates have been disestablished. And, just like that, they’ve been disestablished in the presentation, too. |
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Dale Franks
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The Coast Guard in times of peace is part of the Department of Homeland Security
In times of war they become a part of the Department of defense and they fall under the jurisdiction of the Navy. |
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You did a great job, however, you have the E-3 L/Cpl for USMC INCORRECT; you need to add the "rocker" under the chevron.
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great Job.
Small point though ... Rear Admiral(Lower Half)is more commonly known as Commodore. |
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Chris, there is no rocker under the chevron of Lcpl. The rocker is not received until E6.
Dale, excellent job. However the Explosive Ordnance disposal badge is the same badge worn by all 4 branches of the service. There are 3 badges and each service decides when a person rates the next badge. They are Basic with no stars, Senior with a star in the bomb and Master with a star in the bomb and above the wreath. Just from a retired EOD Marine’s perspective. |
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In the Army section, I believe that once you get to 1stLT you should categorize as Commissioned Officers rather than Warrant.
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Terrific presentation! Having said that, there are some minor mistakes in the Army section:
- First Sergeant is 1SG, not FSG
- Sergeant Major is SGM, not SMJ
- Command Sergeant Major is CSM, not CMS
- Brigadier General is BG
- Major General is MG
- Lieutenant General is LTG
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You did a great job, however, you have the E-3 L/Cpl for USMC INCORRECT; you need to add the "rocker" under the chevron. Only the Army uses the rocker under the chevron for E-3. A Marine E-3 is designated by the addition of the crossed rifles below the single chevron. |
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Dale Franks
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Small point though ... Rear Admiral(Lower Half)is more commonly known as Commodore. Not in the US Navy it isn’t. The rank of Commodore was disestablished several years ago. In the early 1980s, I think. |
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Dale Franks
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Nice job! However, you need to swap the Aerographer’s mate and Avitation Structuaral Mechanic symbols around. They don’t call us Metalsmiths "Tin Benders" or "Hammer Slammers" for nothing!
Where are the Marines Small Arms Qulification Badges? Rifle and Pistol. Sharpshooter (Pizza Box), Marksman, and Expert (crossed rifles or pistols with wreath). Those are unique to the Corps and qualified and worn with great pride! Especially the additional bars for requalifying as Expert. They are common to ALL Marines (Enlisted and Officer).
Still enjoy your labors!
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Wow! That is an incredible presentation and one that I will come back to repeatedly. Thank you so much for making the effort. |
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Most excellent!! Only one small problem. You used some sort of catagorization system that placed Infantry down in the middle. Now, being a RedLegGrunt, I feel it is incumbent upon me to speak up for my less articulate bretheren. Infantry,Artillery, and then all those"helpers". Not complaining, though I am sure the Jarheads reading this are thinking much the same. Aviation before Infantry. It is almost blasphemous. |
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There are FIVE branches of the Armed forces or miitary of the USA. Right now there are USCG in Iraq and serving aborad Navy ships. It is not an arguable point.
14 United States Code, as set by Congress:
Section 1. Establishment of Coast Guard
The Coast Guard as established January 28, 1915, shall be a
military service and a branch of the armed forces of the United
States at all times. The Coast Guard shall be a service in the
Department of Homeland Security, except when operating as a service
in the Navy.
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GREAT JOB!!!
Does the Army still have the scuba qualification badge? |
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No, I didn’t. The Coast Guard is part of the Department of Homeland Security. The USCG certainly does God’s work, but, strictly speaking, aren’t actually part of the military, per se.
I’m sorry, Dale, but this retired Coastie regrets to inform you that you’re mistaken on that last point. Check out Title 10 of the United States Code, which deals with the Armed Forces. If you look under that Title’s definitions, you’ll see that 10 USC § 101(a)(4) reads:
The term "armed forces" means the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps, and Coast Guard.
But smile! You are right about the USCG being part of DHS ... unless the President temporarily moves it into the Navy. |
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Oh, and also see 14 USC § 1:
The Coast Guard as established January 28, 1915, shall be a military service and a branch of the armed forces of the United States at all times. The Coast Guard shall be a service in the Department of Homeland Security, except when operating as a service in the Navy.
I rest my case. :) |
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Cool presentation.
In in USAF section, however, you list Master Pilot and Master Navigator wings. This is in error. The proper designation is Command Pilot and Command Navigator. |
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Wow. Times are rough for a man trying to make a comprehensive guide to US Military Insignia. I suppose that attention to detail is the foundation of our armed forces...if we miss a detail, people die.
Yea, your project might not be perfect [yet], but it’s not life-or-death here. I’m impressed by your work. Thanks for the tribute. |
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Thanks for your hard work in putting this together. Its a really nice presentation and will come in handy. |
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Upon closer examiniation, you only list basic navigator, but missed senior navigator and command navigator.
Still, I appreciate the work that has gone into this. |
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The Navy still has a qualification badge for Dirigible Pilot?
It looks like that one was designed by someone who didn’t much care for dirigibles.... |
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Awesome stuff! A few nautical things to consider:
Text:
Chief Electrician’s Mate: EMC, vice CEM.
Senior Chief Gunners’ Mate: GMCS, vice GMSC.
Master Chief Machinist’s Mate: MMCM, vice MCMM.
"SSBN Deterrent Patrol (Gold)" and "...(Silver)" are distinguished by officer/enlisted, just like "Submarine (Officer)" and "...(Enlisted)."
Graphics:
"Command Ashore" is a gold pin, not silver.
The "ropes" on the Chiefs’ collar devices are a little off - the rope loops back under "USN" rather than below it. Also, the stars point down for Senior/Master Chief, and they’re located on the crossbar, rather than above it.
Seaman(SN)/Seaman Apprentice: White stripes on black as displayed, additionally black stripes on white (summer uniform). Hospitalman (HN) and Dentalman (DN) wear the same insignia as Seaman.
Fireman(FN)/Airman(AN) and apprentices are red/green on white and black as displayed.
Constructionman (CN) are a teal blue on white and black. (Seabees can tell you the "real" name of the color.)
SN/FN/AN/CN don’t have subdued devices - they’re collarless in fatigues.
Additionally, and I’m sure you don’t want to make more graphics, a SN/FN/AN/CN can have a rating as well; a YNSN is so indicated by the "crossed quills" over three stripes.
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I had to draw all those damn dolphins and seahorses and 19th-century diving helmets by hand, so if you they aren’t perfectly accurate...well, bite me.The "ropes" on the Chiefs’ collar devices are a little off - the rope loops back under "USN" rather than below it. Whoops. Sorry about that. |
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Upon closer examiniation, you only list basic navigator, but missed senior navigator and command navigator. No I didn’t. Look at the format of the displays. Except for the pilot and astronaut wings, the first column is always the basic award, the middle the senior and the third is the master. I figure I only have to show one form of each badge, not all three grades for every single badge. |
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Dale Franks
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Most excellent!! Only one small problem. You used some sort of catagorization system that placed Infantry down in the middle. The "categorization system" is called "the alphabet". |
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Once again, guys, thanks for all the suggestions. I have updated the presentation to inclide them. |
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Dale Franks
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what you have listed as seabee specialist under the qualification badges is known as the seabee combat warfare badge. |
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As a Coastie who recently served with the Army in Iraq and Kuwait, I’d like to say two things:
1. Outstanding presentation. I wish I could have seen it before I shipped out—it would have taken a few of the bumps out of the learning curving as we worked with the four other services. Frankly, they all could have used it, too.
2. You need to add USCG info. I’d be more than happy to help, if you’d like. |
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Just to let you know, that Personnelmen (PN) and Disbursing Clerk (DK) have now merged in Personnel Servicemen (PS)as of the 1st of October.
Awesome presentation. |
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Hi
is there a us military badge of just a laurel wreath? i got it in a job lot of insignia and i don’t recognise it.
any help would be appreciated. |
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Hi
is there a us military badge of just a laurel wreath? I got it in a job lot of insignia and i don’t recognise it.
any help would be appreciated. |
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Outstanding presentation! One additional item that requires a slight adjustment, is your Navy CWO2 sleeve and shoulder stripe must be 1/2 inch wide like the other CWO stripes. The 1/4 inch stripe and breaks shown, is of the discontinued WO1.
Keep up the good work and updates! |
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Hi Dale,
Add Electronics Technician (718x) to your USN Warrant Officer Branch Insignia page. It’s similar to your Aviation ET symbol, minus wings, and upside down.
Great site! |
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It certainly would be nice to see the U.S. Coast Guard represented here, since we are the oldest continuous sea-going service of the United States.
The U.S. Coast Guard is a full branch of the military as mentioned previously. Our service has fought in every war and conflict our country has been engaged in, and our service members are subject to the same Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) as any other service member within the DOD. The only difference is that our service falls under Department of Homeland Security, and we are able to conduct law enforcement within the United States. Same pay, same responsibilities to our nation and president, same retirement & disability benefits.
Please reconsider your opinion and add the U.S. Coast Guard to your military insignia presentation.
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