Yeah, well, as I think I mentioned during the arguments about ’blanaced’ government... the only time the Democrats are EVER concerned about ’bipartisanship’ is when they’re on the losing end. |
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While I think it’s important to keep the pressure on the Democratic leadership to live up to the promises they made during the midterms, (for their own good as much as anything else) I think they are well within their rights as the majority party in this case. The legislation that they are putting up for votes are issues that they specifically ran on in 2006 and that were made highlighted again and again. Most of these issues were already passed out of committee in the last Congress but were sabotaged or ignored by the GOP leadership. Since none of these issues are particularly complicated or requiring much tweaking, I think the Democrats are entitled to force a fast-tracked, up or down vote on these issues. GOPers can scream about their oppresion like Monty Python serfs all they like, but Pelosi, Hoyer and Reid have a long way to go before being in the same league of mean-spirited cynicism as Hastert, Delay and Frist. |
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With the perfect opportunity to demonstrate their commitment to bipartisanship, the Democrats instead opt for power politics and adopt precisely the same tactics they whined about for years.
There’s a word for that you know? Republicanism?
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Kav
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In politics "Cooperation" means you cooperate with me. |
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Phil Underwood
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While I think it’s important to keep the pressure on the Democratic leadership to live up to the promises they made during the midterms, (for their own good as much as anything else) I think they are well within their rights as the majority party in this case. But Badger, that was precisely the argument the Republicans used when they were in the majority and to which the Democrats objected (and claimed they wouldn’t do).
They can’t have it both ways. Either it is wrong and no way to do business in Congress or it is an acceptable practice as far as Dems are concerned and they should be upfront about it (and, btw, it wasn’t much different when the Dems had Congress previous to the Republicans this last time).
Either way, it runs directly contrary to their election claim of "hearing" what the people wanted and promising to heed that. In fact, given this plan, it isn’t too far fetched to say they lied.The legislation that they are putting up for votes are issues that they specifically ran on in 2006 and that were made highlighted again and again. Most of these issues were already passed out of committee in the last Congress but were sabotaged or ignored by the GOP leadership. Since none of these issues are particularly complicated or requiring much tweaking, I think the Democrats are entitled to force a fast-tracked, up or down vote on these issues. Again, that’s the Republican argument from the majority.
And, of course, Republicans also argue, rightfully so, that changes have been made in the proposed legislation (true) and those changes should be debated. That used to be the Democrat’s mantra, remember?GOPers can scream about their oppresion like Monty Python serfs all they like, but Pelosi, Hoyer and Reid have a long way to go before being in the same league of mean-spirited cynicism as Hastert, Delay and Frist. Ever hear of Tip O’Neill and Jim Wright?
Anyway, this is a very good start toward joining that league very quickly. And if I know the Republicans, they’ll ensure that the voting public is well aware of this broken promise. |
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McQ
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I myself was persuaded by Dennis Hastert’s response to Pelosi’s suggestion. It appears Pelosi was too.
Honestly, the plight of House Republicans is about the least weighty factor in voters’ minds. And it’s not like Democrats don’t know exactly how Republicans would ’repay’ such an act of kindness and reconciliation.
The Democrats in the House will negotiate with Bush, and the Senate Republicans still need to be treated as near co-equals in that body. That’s more than enough bi-partisanship for me. |
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"And if I know the Republicans, they’ll ensure that the voting public is well aware of this broken promise."
Snort.
Are you serious, McQ? This bunch of spineless, feckless time-servers? Oh, they’ll whine and stamp their tiny little feet, but in the end, they’ll be so overwhelmed by the MSM love-fest for Feisty Grandma Nancy that they’ll just roll over and let themselves be beaten like red-headed stepchildren.
Dick Armey was right - "bipartisanship" is date rape. |
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frustrating, isn’t it? |
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Rick Day
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Bravo - pity you all had to keep your true colors down before the action so as to lull the voting middle into a sense of security.
Let’s see, that’s the behavior of, um, pirates.
Because you know, we all wanted continued partisan behavior as a result of the election. |
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frustrating, isn’t it?
Not in the least. I’m going to enjoy the turned tables for awhile- them being able to snark and snipe and b*tch and complain without needing to offer any plan or alternatives.
In fact Ricky old scout, I’m going to enjoy any GOP obstructionism immensely. Then you’ll be the frustrated one (as usual!)
Besides....when we allow Dems to be Dems- we win. |
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DEMOCRATS LIED AND BIPARTISANSHIP DIED!
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kyle N
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frustrating, isn’t it? Nah.
Instead, typical. |
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McQ
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... And sadly, predictably so. |
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Bithead
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"And if I know the Republicans, they’ll ensure that the voting public is well aware of this broken promise."
I don’t think the public pays much attention to the squabbling of politicians over procedure anymore. I know I don’t. Speaking of broken promises, I think the public might still remember a few made by Republicans. |
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I don’t think the public pays much attention to the squabbling of politicians over procedure anymore. Didn’t say they did, Tim ... said the Republicans would be glad to make them aware of it. |
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McQ
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Because you know, we all wanted continued partisan behavior as a result of the election. Well obviously you did, which is why you voted "more of the same" ie: GOP.
I don’t recall either you or McQ complaining about the tactics over the past 6 years. Yet oddly, McQ finds the democrats to be hypocrits for announcing they would keep essentially the same House/Senate rules you guys had no problem supporting for a lousy 100 days.
Now if, after 100 days, the Dems continue the rules implemented by the GOP, then you’ll have a chance to call them hypocrits. You still won’t have a legitimate complaint about the rules themselves, but you can show hypocrisy.
But seeing as how McQ and others here have been deriding the non actions of the Democrats for weeks even though they had no power yet, this isn’t at all suprising.
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" said the Republicans would be glad to make them aware of it."
What makes you so sure the public isn’t already aware of it? Some of us just say "So, what’s new?". and go on about our business. It’s not like the public hasn’t heard this whining before, from both sides. They would be better off trying to promote substantive issues, assuming they have any. |
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I don’t recall either you or McQ complaining about the tactics over the past 6 years ... I’m not complaining about it now. I don’t want to see them compromise on anything. It’s called gridlock.
All I’m noting is the party which claimed they would open a new era of bipartisanship lied.
Kind of like I noted last week that "we can do it better" was a lie.
Frustrating, isn’t it? |
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McQ
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