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this article says there may be a large offensive against the insurgents before Jan. http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/apmideast_story.asp?category=1107&slug=Iraq%20Battles%20Ahead the only way we will backslide in Iraq is if we change horses in November. Let's not let the GD NYT plan US Iraq policy. Posted by: Mr. K at September 7, 2004 08:48 AM |
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This is a point too many people miss: while a pro-America Iraq would be nice, just as a pro-America France or a flourishing democracy in Russia would be nice, our #1 goal all along has been to get the Iraqis to take responsibility for keeping terrorism from growing in their own back yard. As long as we're the ones providing security, we are in some sense failing. I'm less sanguine about al-Sadr, who strikes me as a young Khomeini; like the early careers of Khomeini, Saddam, Lenin or Hitler, anything that doesn't (literally) kill him only makes him more dangerous. Take al-Sadr out of the picture and I'd be less worried about a Shiite theocracy. Posted by: Crank at September 7, 2004 08:51 AM |
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I agree with Crank's assessment of Al-Sadr. He is at least trying to be a young Khomeini. Right now the only thing keeping him in check is Ali Al-Sistani. I never thought I'd be praying for a Shiite Ayatollah, but God protect Ali Al-Sistani. As for Yglesias. Shrug. He gets a lot of stuff wrong. Or he spins heavily depending on how you want to phrase things. He is much like the mainstream media. You can compare what he says about an article to the actual contents of the article, you see two different things. This is especially the case when he can spin an article against Bush. He doesn't like having this pointed out either. Posted by: Jeff the Baptist at September 7, 2004 09:05 AM |
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Matt's looking for any spin he can get to use against Presient Bush, and apparently doesn't care about much else. Not that this should shock anyone. Posted by: Bithead at September 7, 2004 09:44 AM |
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I don't think Matt is being unreasonably partisan in this case. I just think the situation is a bit more complex--nuanced--than a straightforward "we're winning/losing, depending on how we're faring against the insurgents". There are certainly points to be made about the problems with democratization in Iraq. I'm just throwing out this additional perspective on the situation. Either Matt or myself can be made a false prophet if a few things fall the wrong way. Posted by: Jon Henke at September 7, 2004 09:49 AM |
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I quit visiting Matt long ago due to partisan hack jobs. Shoot, he even accused Glenn Reynolds of starting a campaign to deface NYT vending machines in a published article, when in the post cited Glenn even said "Don't do that." I'm still wondering how "Don't do that" is a campaign to "Do that." Must be more nuance than I can handle. Posted by: David R. Block at September 7, 2004 10:07 AM |
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Jon; He's become famous among the lefties for his hack jobs. I have little reason to think he's trying to be fair, here. Posted by: Bithead at September 7, 2004 11:38 AM |
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Famous among the lefties? Which lefties? I've always regarded Matthew as a reasonable critic. Partisan, to be sure, but intellectually honest. I still do. Posted by: Jon Henke at September 7, 2004 11:44 AM |
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Yglesias goes overboard sometimes; happens to the best of us. Like a lot of people on the Left, he's been progressively worse since the 2002 elections. But on the whole he's not that bad (he's not Oliver Willis). Posted by: Crank at September 7, 2004 04:55 PM |
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All the arguments you make for why it's good for us to withdraw and let the iraqis settle it, are just as applicable as of, say, June of last year. If we had let Garner go ahead and run local elections, would we have been any worse off? Bremer appointed people who couldn't govern. And his CPA turned out not to be much improvement over Garner in terms of getting things organised. If you're right, our last 16 or so months have been an utter waste but maybe now we're on the right track. I hope you're right. Posted by: J Thomas at September 8, 2004 01:11 AM |
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