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However there's a reason I, at least, haven't paid that much attention to the intelligence estimate on Iraq that was given to the White House. Experience.
Posted by: Bithead at September 17, 2004 05:12 PM |
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His final comments about the negativity seemed familar. http://drudgereport.com/flash4.htm This defeatist attitude undermines the great progress and sacrifices of our men and women in the military and the contributions of our allies who are fighting against terror and standing up for freedom around the world. The politics of pessimism that is being pursued by John Kerry and the extreme liberals demonstrates they are consumed by the past with nothing to offer but attacks on the President's agenda for creating a safer world. John, say it isn't so and denounce this latest effort to divide Americans" Posted by: Doug at September 17, 2004 06:07 PM |
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I saw the post at CQ, and found what I had hoped to find: links in the commentary to blogs from our servicemen in Iraq. The truth is all I seek. While I respect your opinion when you cite "experience", I prefer to read and sort the truth out for myself. By the way, I am looking for reasons to be optimistic about what is happening in Iraq. Most of what we are fed in the news are reasons for pessimism. Whether the Intel Assessment is right or wrong, it is an assessment of what is happening in the war on terror. Rathergate is simply insignificant in comparison, in my opinion. Posted by: Mr. K at September 17, 2004 06:21 PM |
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Greetings, Concur completely that intel tends to be 'worst case'. Worked with tactical intel myself. If the S2 always works most likely and most dangerous. Now, if you were presenting decision making information to the national leadership, would you go with most likely or most dangerous. If we predict bad things and good things happen, everyone is happy. If we predict good things and bad things happen, heads tend to role. Regards, Posted by: Mike at September 17, 2004 06:30 PM |
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Mr. K - Actually its a highly suspect snapshot of what was happening 3 months ago. To expect the underlying assumptions used then to still be valid now is a bit of a stretch. That's not to say I don't appreciate your seeking the truth in this matter. More power to you. I'm simply trying to warn you against putting too much crediblity in this old intel assessment. Posted by: McQ at September 17, 2004 07:17 PM |
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If the Intel Assessment is overly pessimistic as you say then more time needs to be spent presenting the good things that are happening in Iraq. And why it is critical that we stay the course. From a quick reading at the liberal blogs, many are conceding defeat, at least as close as they can get, on Rathergate. But Kerry and Co. and the liberal blogs are hammering on Iraq. And when it comes to lives of soldiers and Marines lost, and money also, I am concerned about what the future holds there. Both sides have laid it on thick. That is why I am on my truth quest. Thanks for your time and opinion...I like this blog. Posted by: Mr. K at September 17, 2004 07:41 PM |
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I'm very skeptical about the NIE. I've long held the view, based on a little research and a lot of obseving, that the CIA and it's surrogates in the intel community (with the possible exception of the DIA) is almost, if not equally so, as liberal and left leaning as the lace-panty crowd at Foggy Bottom: aka the State Department. And that makes me very suspicious of anything those groups say. I don't believe they have the US best interests at the forefront of their agendas. Posted by: Greg at September 17, 2004 10:05 PM |
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Just dawned on me. Haven't seen the report, just read reports on the report. Does the report present a most likely and a most dangerous ECOA? And if so, does it include possible actions for each of the ECOAs? At the tactical / Operational level, a good friendly COA focuses on the most likely ECOA, but must be able to defeat the most dangerous ECOA. Regards, Posted by: Mike at September 18, 2004 04:56 PM |
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My guess is it doesn't get the far into the weeds. I'd say it was more of a statement probable outcomes based on assumptions. But its would be hard to put together a homogeneous bad guy for that type of an assessment to give an ECOA (or even COAs) with any credibility. Probably global and nebulous but pessimistic. Posted by: McQ at September 18, 2004 05:55 PM |
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