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I’d have much more respect for Jonathan Chait, as a senior editor of The New Republic, if he’d just man-up and address the fisasco head on.LOLZ!! Now you did it McQ. You had to swat that hornets nest, didn’t you? The only thing they hate more than questioning their patriotism is questioning their masculinity. Written By: Aldo URL: http:// |
TNR’s "continuing effort" to get answersWhen the find the answers, perhaps they can help OJ with his problem as well. Written By: Neo URL: http:// |
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"TNR’s "continuing effort" to get answers" Like a TV soap opera, or ’daytime drama’ if you prefer, this effort will continue as long as people are watching, and with the same plausibility. Written By: timactual URL: http:// |
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Respect for Chait? Sorry, I’ll see cold fusion, 200 mpg cars and free beer first.
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Speaking of PVT Beauchamp. I checked out his AKO account back when he first introducted himself. I found that he was listed as a PV2 and much was made of the fact by others that he had been a PFC but must have been busted to PV2 prior to his journey into journalism. I checked his AKO information a few days ago. It still lists his unit as 1/18th however his rank is now listed as PV1. So that, at least to me, answers the question of what punishment he got. Looks like an ART 15, reduction in rank to PV1, and who knows if he got extra duty or loss of any more pay. Yet TNR still stands behind their man until proven wrong (at least proven wrong in thier books which would mean that Beauchamp would have to have a political conversion to a republican). Written By: retired military URL: http:// |
The notion that TNR published a Diarist merely for the edification of readers, rather than to advance a political agenda, did not occur to Kristol, because he could not imagine doing any such thing himself.Huh. Yeah. The New Republic is a center-left political opinion magazine. The whole point of their magazine is to publish articles that "advance a political agenda". That’s why they print the magazine in the first place. Why would we assume that any article is published "merely for the edification of readers" in an magazine whose purpose is to advance a specific ideological and political agenda? I don’t assume that National Review or Weekly Standard does, why would I assume TNR does? Written By: Dale Franks URL: http://www.qando.net |
The New Republic is a center-left political opinion magazine. The whole point of their magazine is to publish articles that "advance a political agenda". That’s why they print the magazine in the first place.I like Ed Morrissey’s take on the "edification" spin over at Captain’s Quarters: Let’s take a look at the rest of their articles highlighted on their front page to see whether they express a political point of view, or are merely edifying: Written By: Aldo URL: http:// |
So that, at least to me, answers the question of what punishment he got. Looks like an ART 15, reduction in rank to PV1, and who knows if he got extra duty or loss of any more pay.Wow! I think your the first to report this retired military Written By: Neo URL: http:// |
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"Looks like an ART 15, reduction in rank to PV1," Unless they have changed the UCMJ in the last 20 years (a definite possibility), an article 15 can only reduce you to E-2. As I recall, the only time anyone was reduced to E-1 was if they were courmartialed, and reduction to E-1 was usually accompanied by stockade time. I don’t know how promotions go these days, but it seems to me after 18 months or more of active service he should be an E-3, particularly if he is overseas. Written By: timactual URL: http:// |
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Timeactual, Actually there is no limited to how far they can busted down his rank. Usually they bust a person to one rank lower. If he was busted before entering Iraq and became an E2, then when he was buted again, he would be an E1. Written By: Minh-Duc URL: http:// |
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They certainly can bust someone to E1. Depending on the CDR level it can be a certain number of grades. I retired 10 years ago but I believe company grade ART 15 was at least 1 grade and field grade ART 15 was at least 2 grades. A court martial can take you all the way down and in todays army that means out as well. In fact I had a 1SG explain to me that a PV1 can be busted. What will simply happen is he is the same rank but his date of rank changes to when he was last busted. As some know time in rank is one determining factor on whether a person can get promoted or not. From PV1 to PV2 it is normally 6 months with as few as 4 with a waiver. But if a PV1 is busted to PV1 then his 6 months start all over again. Written By: retired military URL: http:// |
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A company grade officer can demote you one rank. A field grade officer can demote two ranks.
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Perhaps if I had searched before I wrote, I would have known. I must remember that Google is my friend (sort of). Ah, well. Toerr is human, and it encourages humility. http://usmilitary.about.com/od/justicelawlegislation/l/blucmj15.htm "... (H) if imposed by an officer of the grade of major or lieutenant commander, or above— (iv) reduction to the lowest or any intermediate pay grade, if the grade from which demoted is within the promotion authority of the officer imposing the reduction or any officer subordinate to the one who imposes the reduction, by an enlisted member in a pay grade above E-4 may not be reduced more than two pay grades;..." Written By: timactual URL: http:// |
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If Chait and TNR were upset and vented their furstration at Kristol, you can bet dollars to donuts that they will react to the possible busting of their "budding Hemingway" with even more vitriol. This is all part of TNR as "victim". The question that TNR will try to obscure .. who is the victimizer ? Of course, it is the fabulist, Mr. Beauchamp. Written By: Neo URL: http:// |
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A field grade can bust an E-4 or below all the way to E-1. A field grade can bust an E-5 or E-6 by one pay grade. Company grades can bust E-4 or below a single grade. E-7 and above cannot be reduced save by a court martial. Written By: John Sheridan URL: http://allaloneinthenight.com |
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Can an officer reduce another officer in rank
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Can an officer reduce another officer in rankYes ... through courtmartial, usually a general courtmartial. Written By: McQ URL: http://www.qando.net/blog |
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