I want to see the contortions they go through as they abandon the Europeans (as if they’d allow themselves to BE abandoned...) in Afghanistan.
All the while talking about how the US needs to get the rest of the world to support our efforts to bring terrorists to heel (Afghanistan) instead of doing things almost unilaterally (Iraq).
This will be a variation of the contortions they learned to do when they "supported the troops but not the mission".
If you goad them enough during the conversation, they eventually admit there is NO good mission and NO good use for the military because there is NO just war, and the military is just a bunch of ignorant hired killers, many of whom deserve to die anyway because they don’t love peace at all costs.
Sometimes they realize they let their inside voice out, but it was George Bush’s fault so it was okay to feel that way. |
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Actually I think it is the other way around. Cindy Sheehan, of all people, actually sent out a very good analysis where she draws a distinction between the tiny "peace" movement and the much larger "anti-war" movement:
"What we have here in the US is an "anti-war" movement that is selective in its opposition to war. It seems that for many of the national organizations, Democratic Wars are okay, while Republican Wars are bad. . . The "anti-war" movement was always very careful to make a distinction between Iraq (bad) and Afghanistan (justified) which to me was always a failure and bad reasoning that would eventually harm the integrity of the movement. . . The tiny Peace Movement that we do have in the US has always said that the US invasions and occupations of BOTH Iraq and Afghanistan are illegal and immoral and our troops should be brought home immediately . . . The Anti-Republican-War movement are the ones that hold marches on the weekends where the status-quo won’t be inconvenienced, pat themselves on the back, and then go to their national meetings to plan how more Democrats can be elected. . . The Anti-Republican-War Movement will stand down during the Obama regime and "give him a chance." |
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Slightly off-topic, Obama says it’s no longer necessary to kill Osama bin Laden.
So, all those who criticized Bush for not going after OBL will now criticize Obama, right? |
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And the question becomes is there an acceptable "clear strategic goal" for the left? You mean other than the destruction of the United States, first by hacking off as much sovereignty as possible?
Is there something not clear about that?
But it wouldn’t end with diminishments of sovereignty.
You recently heard that former KGB Russian political scientist talking about the break-up of the United States?
Well, any guesses hereabouts as to who was pushing that idea, oh, four, five years ago? Hint: he’s also a poltical scientist. |
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Be ironic if "evil Bush" wins in Iraq and then Obama looses the "good war". |
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Be even more ironic if the next strike at the US happens to hit the Capitol. |
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Actually I think it is the other way around. Cindy Sheehan, of all people, actually sent out a very good analysis where she draws a distinction between the tiny "peace" movement and the much larger "anti-war" movement: Well, what Sheehan might be missing is that you can further split the "antiwar" camp into two groups: those that actually are infavor with the Afgan war, and those that simply voice support for the Afgan war as a retorical tool.
My point being, her far left view is such that the distinction is likely irrelevent, but to me and others who are not hard left, the distinction is in fact relevent. |
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You know, part of the reason we went into Iraq is that Afghanistan is such a hellhole. Regime change was possible in Iraq because the Iraqis had a history of peaceful governance before Saddam Hussein. The same simply can’t be said about Afghanistan because they’ve never been anything but a mess of tribes and they’ve never had any real industry.
I’m inclined to say we should pull out of Afghanistan. We’ve got a bulwark in Iraq that will make a major impact over time, so things didn’t go the way we planned, but we’ve clearly made a lasting gain. I think it’s in our strategic interests to periodically thrash groups like AQ and the Taliban, but the long term solution is to assist the free market in lifting people out of poverty. |
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