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Social Security Privatization: Effects on Investment Markets
Posted by: Dale Franks on Saturday, March 12, 2005

Earlier this evening, while we were all in the Chat Room, Jon asked me what I thought would happen to the stock market if Social Security was privatized. That took me aback, actually, because, for all the debate I've seen about it, no one seems to have really looked hard at what the effects would be on the markets. A lot would depend on the actual amount that would be transferred into the markets, and how much would go into stocks, and how much into bonds. But we can certainly play with some numbers and come up with some tentative preliminary conclusions.

In 2003, out of a total payroll of $4.3 trillion, The Social Security system collected total payroll tax revenues of $534 billion. Additionally, since benefits are subject to income taxation, the system collected an additional $13 billion in tax revenues, for a total of $546 billion.  Under the president's current plan, workers would be allowed to put up to 4 percentage points of their payroll taxes, i.e., about 35% of their actual payroll tax payment, into private accounts that would invest in the financial markets.

So based on the figures above, and without trying to do a dynamic analysis about what revenues will be in future years, let's say that there will be an additional ballpark figure of $200 billion per year being diverted into the financial markets.  At the moment, the total stock of US financial assets is around $33.4 trillion.  Given that disparity between total assets, and the amount of new investment, I think there's adequate liquidity  in the market to absorb the new investment without too much stress.  We're only talking about a 0.6% increase per year.

Assuming that the stock of US assets grows at a faster rate than 0.6% a year, the markets can easily absorb that amount of new investment, without an immediate effect on prices or returns. But the possible effects aren't limited to the immediate future.  Over time, the investment of Social Security funds would become an increasingly larger part of the private markets.   By 2050, the Social Security system, that is to say the government, would not only be the largest investor in the equity markets, but would hold about 25% of all equities. That raises a crop of problems that will have to be dealt with.


 

Ene of the central talking points in favor of privatization is that returns from private equity investments have been historically higher that anything Social Security's current structure can provide.  There are two problems with that talking point however. 

The first problem lies in the use of the term "historically".  Past returns, investment advisers are required by law to tell us, are no guarantee of future profits.  In the case of Social Security Privatization, this might very well be more true than privatization advocates would have us believe.  As Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan has noted, if we are going to transfer Social Security funds from government treasury bonds into the equity markets, then we have to induce private investors to make a net transfer of their equity investments into treasuries. 

Two implications arise from this (although this is largely going to be guess work, because apparently, even Fed researchers aren't sure about the following predictions).  The first implication is that treasury yields will need to rise in order to induce the required investment shift into treasuries by private investors.  Second, equity prices will have to rise, meaning that the expected future return on equity will decline.  If that's true, then the future return on equity investments will be lower than the historical return.  And, as Mr. Greenspan points out, on a risk-adjusted basis, the expected return on equity investments from Social Security funds would certainly be less than current predictions estimate, although they would probably be higher than the system's current returns.

Next, privatization doesn't do anything to solve the problem of the current liabilities of the Social Security system.  All the transfer of Social Security moneys from treasuries to equities will accomplish is an asset reallocation.  It won't change the total stock of assets, and it wont change the net return on investment from all assets.  It may change the return for some individuals, raising the returns for Social Security investors while lowering the returns for private investors, but overall, it's a wash.

To meet the current retirement claims outstanding, the only thing that will help us out with that is either a substantial increase in the national savings rate, which implies congruent decrease in consumption, or by substantial increases in productivity.  Of those two options, increasing the savings rate is the more painful choice.  It means a lower standard of living as people pare back on their consumption now, in return for secure retirement.  The most pleasant option is to increase productivity, allowing us to get more economic output for the same amount of money.  Assuming, of course, productivity can be increased enough to even make up for the current shortfall. 

But, one of the key reasons for America's productivity increases has been because we have very efficient financial markets.  They do what free markets are supposed to do, which is to transfer resources, such as capital, to its highest valued uses.  Large-scale investments of Social Security funds might put that in danger.

As Robert Samuelson has put it:

 The moneys flowing into personal accounts would not be invested according to the "free market." Individuals wouldn't have the freedom to invest in Microsoft, General Electric or eBay. Instead, the moneys would be invested according to rules made by Congress, influenced by politics. There would be unrelenting pressures from interest groups, "experts" and public opinion. Some types of investing—or some types of companies—would be deemed better than others.

Once the government has a say in where investment dollars go, then you begin to run into problems.  This has certainly been the case at the state level, where it has been impossible to prevent state legislatures from mandating all sorts of investment rules that have reduced returns, for purely political reasons.  As Alan Greenspan has told Congress:

I doubt that it is possible to secure and sustain institutional arrangements that would insulate, over the long run, the trust funds from political pressures. These pressures, whether direct or indirect, could result in suboptimal performance by our capital markets, diminished economic efficiency, and lower overall standards of living than would be achieved otherwise.

The experience of public pension funds seems to bear this out...For example, it has been shown that state pension plans that are required to direct a portion of their investments in-state and those that make "economically targeted investments" experience lower returns as a result.  Similarly, there is evidence suggesting that, the greater the proportion of trustees who are political appointees, the lower the rate of return.

In an environment where the government is an institutional investor that controls a quarter of all equity capital, it's almost impossible to construct a scenario in which an investment plan run by the government will not devolve into an exercise in de facto industrial policy.  The government will make decisions about what companies should be winners or losers.  Even worse, political pressure to put a stop to things like  "Benedict Arnold companies shipping American jobs overseas" will eventually be too attractive to ignore, if past experience is any guide.

Companies will also become more politically risk averse.  The specter of upsetting a powerful institutional investor who holds 25% of your market cap is enough to give most CEOs nightmares.

The counter argument to that has been put forth by former Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin.

[T]he scenario Greenspan fears can be avoided by erecting barriers between Congress and the management of the trust funds. Those barriers would include creating an independent board, much like the Federal Reserve itself, to oversee the trust funds. Its members would be appointed by the president and confirmed by the Senate, serving staggered 14-year terms and shielded from dismissal from office for political reasons. In addition, the power of the board could be limited to selecting fund managers who would be required to make only passive investments in securities that represent broad market averages—so-called “index mutual funds.”

Well, that sounds good, but that raises a problem in an of itself, which I will address below.

Still, if you're concerned about the government doing all that investing, then the answer is to create a program that takes the investment choice away from the government, and to allow individual investors to allocate their money as they wish.

But that has problems as well.  Individual investors just aren't very smart.  It may not be libertarian-PC to say it, but the more private investors are allowed to make allocation decisions, the worse they do.  That's not an opinion, that's a fact. Investing isn't something you can dabble in part time.  It takes a significant amount of knowledge to churn your accounts, to buy high and sell low.  In aggregate, individual investors do best when they simply buy an S&P Index fund, keep putting money in it, and otherwise forget they have it.

Moreover, stock market investing does have an element of risk.  Unless you are going to posit that the higher rate of return from equities is as Brad Delong puts it, "a market failure that private accounts can profit from, rather than merely compensation for risk," then you have to address what, if anything, you're going to do to compensate retirees who suffer a 40% drop in equity prices like occurred in 2000-2001, the year before they retire.  The risk element of equity investment is there, and has to be dealt with. Professor DeLong points out that, as long as the risk is there, the government is much better situated to mitigate that risk than the individual investor is.

So, even a system of private accounts must have some very strict rules, such as those proposed by Professor DeLong, which would stipulate that:

  • Private accounts are set up so that they are not eaten away by high administrative costs.
  • Private accounts are set up so that they are not decimated by improperly balanced and diversified portfolios.
  • Private accounts are set up so that they cannot be pledged or emptied by imprudent and impatient beneficiaries.

That means very little freedom of choice, and very conservative asset allocation rules, which gives rise to problems of its own.

Robert Samuelson, again:

Personal accounts would be a strange hybrid: part "private" investment, part public entitlement. This is a hard straddle. There's an unavoidable dilemma: making personal accounts safer for individuals may make the stock market less useful—less dynamic—for society. The conflict has already surfaced. One criticism of personal accounts is that they might subject beneficiaries to huge losses, because stocks fluctuate erratically. The administration counters that it would allow accounts to be invested only in "index funds"—for example, funds representing the Standard & Poor's 500 stocks. The idea is to minimize the risk of big losses on individual or speculative stocks. Sounds sensible. But it would bias the market in favor of existing companies, industries and technologies. It would discriminate against the new, exciting and different.

The problem here is exactly the same problem as the one that comes from Sec. Rubin's suggestion above.

Investment rules that seek to reduce risk by rigorously mandating conservative allocations prevent capital from flowing to its highest-valued uses. In other words, we're back to a productivity problem again.  New companies and new technologies would have to compete for a much smaller share of available capital, because so much investment capital was tied up in Social Security investments, with constrictive investment rules.  A shortage of entrepreneurial capital might very well put a crimp in technological progress upon which so much of productivity increases depend.

lmost any way you approach it, any government-mandated program of equity investments raises as many questions as it does answers.  It might increase the returns from Social Security, but only at the expense of lowering them for private investors.  Putting the government in charge of investments runs the risk of creating an industrial policy, while letting investors make choices exposes them to risk that we might have to make up for at extra public expense.  And the solution to either of those problems runs the risk of lowering productivity, and hence living standards.

If we really want to privatize Social Security then the best thing to do would be to...well...privatize it.  Let investors keep their money, make their own decisions, and accept that those decisions will have risks.

We won't do it though.  We want our money, and we want high returns, and we want it risk free  We want, in short, a free lunch.

I doubt we'll get it. 

UPDATE: Jon pointed pointed out that the amount of money I originally wrote would be going into private markets was wrong.  The correct amount would be $200 billion, not $20 billion.  I can only blame my post-midnight math for dropping the zero.

 
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Move your analysis ahead, to the time that there are two workers per retiree (that’s when Bush backers say Social Security will have real problems.)  At that time the two workers will be investing each month far less than the one retiree is withdrawing.  Multiply that by the number of retirees and you have a huge amount being pulled out of the private accounts (which mostly have to be stock market accounts to get the claimed rate of return.)   The overlooked fact basic to understanding all of this is that the stock market is a market.  When the amount being removed from the market each month is far greater than the amount being invested the stock prices must fall.  That means the workers, the retirees, and all other investors will experience a negative rate of return.  That negative rate of return will persist for years.  Indeed, without the Bush private accounts a Yale economics professor has predicted that soon the sales from IRA and 401(k) and similar accounts will cause a substantial drop in stock prices.

The promise of private account is a false promise.  Bush would have retirees invest their futures in a government-mandated stock bubble, followed by a massive and enduring stock market crash. 

There is a real problem to be addressed when the ratio of workers to retirees is two to one - but Bush not only doesn’t address that, he flogs a "solution" that is far worse than the existing Social Security system.

Also, the 4% Bush would put into private accounts is 4% of earnings, not 4% of FICA taxes.  A lot more money would be going onto the stock market each year than $24 billion.  That will push stock prices higher but it would be a purely technical effect, not any indication of an increase in value of the underlying securites.  The big winners would be the ones who already own stocks, who could sell them at a profit - a tax-free profit, if Bush has his way.  Gosh, who might that be?
 
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Anonymous, your analysis is flawed. If private Social Security accounts were the only investment in the stock market, you might be right. But it’s not the only investment, not by any measure. Some private accounts will withdraw their funds, and faster than the private accounts coming in. But NOT at a rate faster than the general investment in the market.
 
Written By: Steverino
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By 2050, the Social Security system, that is to say the government, would not only be the largest investor in the equity markets, but would hold about 25% of all equities. That raises a crop of problems that will have to be dealt with. I would like to see some figures on this, Dale. Since between now and 2050, there will be more people retiring than coming into the workforce, it stands to reason that there will be more money withdrawn from private accounts than going into them. Retirees will draw their income from these accounts; those that die will pass the account balances on to their estate, where the funds would be put into other accounts. So, the percentage of equities held by private accounts would not always increase. Rather, it would peak at a point about 20 years into the future and then start declining. Private accounts would only be a problem if there is a great deal of government control of them. There doesn’t seem to be this trouble with IRAs or 401(k)s, however. If privatizing Social Security takes the form of those, I don’t see much trouble. If it does not take that form, then sure, let’s not do it. Next, privatization doesn’t do anything to solve the problem of the current liabilities of the Social Security system.  Actually, it does, but on the funding side. Since Social Security earnings are taxable beyond a certain point, the money coming out of privatized accounts would be taxable when withdrawn. If the return on private accounts is higher than the return on the current Social Security system, then there would be more money to tax, and more revenue to fund the liability. Further, I believe that the benefits paid to those with private accounts would be reduced in proportion to those accounts.
 
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Just a couple of points:

(1) Those SS participants who choose to participate in personal accounts will have their future benefit from government sources reduced by a corresponding amount, thereby reducing future public indebtedness.  This should act to reduce some of the Ponzi effect. Whether this will be adequate to fully compensate for lost contribution revenue remains to be seen.

(2) A near-simultaneous adoption of something like the so-called Fair Tax would accomplish two things: (a) Tend to limit consumption, since it is a consumption tax, and (b) Provide, at the same time, a spur to productivity because it is a tax levied only at the retail level, so that business decisions need not be skewed by tax considerations. Hopefully, this would tend to make the market place more efficient. Further, since the Fair Tax is designed to be revenue-neutral and to replace income taxes, estate taxes, and payroll taxes (i.e. SS and Medicare) the revenue base would be maintained for the immediate future and not drop off when people open personal accounts.

A further thought. Medicare is obviously the elephant in the living room. As Medicare costs grow, the proportion of the tax base available for SS benefits declines under the Fair Tax. If SS gradually transitioned to 100% of existing contributions in private accounts, only those currently 55 and older would draw full benefits from the public coffers, and younger participants would gradually get less and less out of the nominal SS fund leaving more and more for Medicare. Then if Medicare were phased out in favor of lifetime HSAs....

 
Written By: John F
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What if Social Security money were invested as a whole in the Banking system. I thought of this idea a little while ago, but it does have some problems such as the new problem of needing a new agency to deal with selecting which Banks to deposit in (as proposed by the article’s author). Here’s a post of mine from another site about the topic. Please pick away at it.





Whether or not there is a crisis regarding Social Security, it is undeniable that private investment offers a higher average rate of return to investors, meaning the government can save money by privatizing Social Security. The stock market has had an average rate of return of 8.3% during the past century, including the great depression and all the other shocks that occurred. The problem with this is that the risk is basically intolerable. The standard deviation is 20%, meaning that 68% of investors make between -11.7% and 28.3% and 32% make either more or less of that. That’s 16% of retirees losing more than -11.7% of their investments through such a plan. The percentage of people who would gain money would be 1 minus the value from the z chart of -8.3/20. -8.3/20 is -.415, which returns a value of about .33905. This means that about 34% of those who invest their money in the privatized program would lose money, not considering that inflation (around 1-3%, usually) is not accounted for.

The most obvious solution would be to have the government collect all the money and invest it collectively in the stock market, returning 8.3% (reducing the costs of Social Security) and also eliminating all the risk to individual dependents of Social Security. However, this is largely infeasible as the selection of what stocks to invest in and the ties that would form between business and government would be intolerable and corruption-ridden.

What I think could be a tolerable alternative were if the government invested this money in banks instead. The banks would most likely offer the government a real rate of return above the market price in return for an influx of savings. True, they would be liabilities to the banks, but the banks would of course lend out the money to individual companies, helping out the economy. The companies would thereby not be directly chosen by the government, allowing a looser connection between government and business. However, there would still be problems. An independent commission would have to be set up to choose banks in which to invest the money; perhaps this duty would be taken up by the FOMC, as it is sufficiently independent of the rest of the government. Nevertheless, such appointments are made by politicians that are subject to the pressures of corruption, making a new independent commission a better choice. Moreover, the banks chosen would have to be investigated and shown to engage in clearly legal and corruption-free business practices to be picked. This would make fewer banks be considered or willing; as a result, sub-optimal banks could be picked. Auctions to see who would offer the highest rate of return would be used to determine which banks would be chosen (in addition to the reliability of the bank), but the added necessity of reliability will still lend the process to corruption and ties between government and business. To avoid investigation, Banks might open up new branches specifically designed to handle these Social Security funds, as Banks have shown their unwillingness to be investigated with their reluctance to accept Federal funds to meet the Required Reserve ratio (which results in increased scrutiny from the government). Although this would increase the "supply" of banks to choose from, it would cause inflexibility, as the government would be reluctant to switch the banks it is investing in (obviously the banks invested in would be reconsidered and changed every few years) since many would serve the sole purpose of acting as a bank for Social Security.

All in all, I’m opening my idea to peer-review. The investment of the funds would help the economy both by making social security cheaper and increasing investment, or capital that is available to businesses - one of the four bases for real GDP growth. I remind you that the costs of adding new commissions would be negligible when compared to the benefit of the interest - Social Security costs around 600 billion dollars annually; if the U.S. government gets a real rate of return of 4%, then ~23 billion dollars can be saved annually if we assume that the U.S. spends all of the Social Security money each year. If some is ever left over, then the benefits can turn out to be much greater. Effectively, I’m asking if my idea blurs the line between government and business too much, or if it can be carried out. If you believe the former is true, please post suggestions as to how to remedy this or at least mitigate the effects to an acceptable level.
 
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