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Prepare for a "casket" orgy
Posted by: McQ on Friday, April 29, 2005

The Pentagon has finally released photos of flag draped coffins arriving at Dover AFB as has been demanded by the anti-war side since the beginning of the Iraq conflict.
"This is an important victory for the American people, for the families of troops killed in the line of duty during wartime and for the honor of those who have made the ultimate sacrifice for their country," said University of Delaware professor Ralph Begleiter, whose October 2004 lawsuit spurred the release. He sought the release under the Freedom of Information Act.

"This significant decision by the Pentagon should make it difficult, if not impossible, for any U.S. government in the future to hide the human cost of war from the American people," Begleiter said in a written statement.
Apparently, as their thinking seems to go, we can only appreciate the 'cost' in lives if we see coffins and intrude in what is a very private moment for the military family and the actual family. We can only know the "real" cost when we see the pictures. Pictures, it would seem, are truth in Professor Begleiter's world.

I don't know about you but I've always known what the cost was in Vietnam when they said 58,000 died. I didn't need 58,000 pictures of flag draped coffins to do so. Nor do I need to see these to appreciate and understand the significance of the lives lost in the effort to free Iraq.

I do, however, expect to see a mini casket-picture orgy from the MSM ("if it bleeds it leads") as well as the anti-war left. I also expect and fear the latter will use these photos to expliot the dead for their own political agenda.

And on that fear, I have every expectation of being proven right.
 
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What’s next?, open casket photo op?. Disgusting. Absolutely disgusting.
 
Written By: mark m
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... from the MSM ("if it bleeds it leads") as well as the anti-war left ...
There’s a difference?
 
Written By: MichaelW
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Regarding Vietnam...What is the cost of 58,000? Beyond that simple number, what does 58,000 mean?
If you have been to the Vietnam Memorial, and saw the names on the wall, you begin to understand what 58,000 means and feel closer to them in their brave sacrifice. We should NOT do away with the memorial and we SHOULD see the dead, because the belong to US and, lest they remain an abstaction, must be embraced and honored. In the same way, we should be "exposed" to our fallen in Iraq, either in pictures of their faces as current projects to honor the Iraqi War dead are addressing, or in pictures of the caskets...or in any other way that allows us to witness their loss in our name. There is NOTHING disgusting about the fact that they lie in those caskets, draped with the flag of our country, and any suggestion that there is sullies their sacrifice.
 
Written By: citizenjack
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If you have been to the Vietnam Memorial, and saw the names on the wall, you begin to understand what 58,000 means and feel closer to them in their brave sacrifice.

Been there, done that, got the t-shirt and the 1 year trip to the country to show for it. I know intimately what those 58,000 mean ... I knew some of them very personally.

we SHOULD see the dead

Why? Does it make it more "real"? Is their sacrifice then somehow a ’better’ sacrifice? Or does it just make great TV?

Will you promise no one will exploit their sacrifice to support their political ends?

For the life of me I can’t understand why is it so important to release images of their sacrifice to those who will use them in the fight against that for which they died.
 
Written By: McQ
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You are wrong.

There will not be a "casket orgy" of any sort.

IF they spend any time on the issue they’ll show a few pictures and quickly move on.

There just aren’t large numbers of people who give a damn EITHER WAY on the matter of US troops killed in Iraq. The MSM will reflect the widespread ambivalence to the deaths of Americans in Iraq.

The MSM will spend more time on gas prices because THAT is what most people REALLY care about. Just watch.
 
Written By: skillet
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"There is NOTHING disgusting about the fact that they lie in those caskets, draped with the flag of our country, and any suggestion that there is sullies their sacrifice."

Demanding to see pictures of flag draped coffins IS disgusting and the fact the pictures will be spun into political fodder by the same people demanding to see the pictures is more disgusting.

 
Written By: mark m
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Is there any reason that they need more than one such picture? One flag draped coffin looks like another.
 
Written By: Mark Flacy
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Just in time to counter last nights press conference....

Timing, as they say, is everything.

 
Written By: Bithead
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What’s there to "counter" in last night’s press conference? Other than the fact that television fans were pissed off at having their sweeps shows preempted by his babbling, there isn’t any there there to "counter." Bush is old news, and will be until and unless he’s deported to the Hague to answer for his crimes.

Tom Knapp
 
Written By: Thomas L. Knapp
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...feed the troll...don’t feed the troll...feed the troll...don’t feed the troll...

Eh, what the hell...

So, Mr. Knapp, which crimes would those be?

 
Written By: Mark Flacy
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(Snork!)

 
Written By: Bithead
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Quoth Mark:

"So, Mr. Knapp, which crimes would those be?"

The conduct of an illegal and immoral war of aggression. The Hague isn’t responsible for trying him for things like drunk driving and desertion.

Tom Knapp
 
Written By: Thomas L. Knapp
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Has the casket orgy started yet?



 
Written By: skillet
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Illegal war of aggression?

So... you’re talking about Saddam?

 
Written By: Bithead
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The conduct of an illegal and immoral war of aggression.

Defined as how?

Oh yeah, don’t forget to add Congress to the docket, mmmok?

 
Written By: Mark Flacy
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Quoth Mark Flacy:

"Defined as how?"

We’re two years into the war now, and it’s obvious that most people have reached their own conclusions. I’ve reached mine, you’ve reached yours. I’m no longer interested in debating whose conclusions are correct, but rather in seeing mine acted upon.

Regards,
Tom Knapp
 
Written By: Thomas L. Knapp
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I’m no longer interested in debating whose conclusions are correct, but rather in seeing mine acted upon.

Spoken as a true leftist! Reality be damned!

For some reason, I am not surprised.


 
Written By: Mark Flacy
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Yours being acted upon would be an utter disaster, Mr. Knapp.
To say nothing of it being exactly the opposite of the will of the AMerican people.

But, pray, do continue to press on. It will doubtless be of great aid to getting a Democrat elected. Just like it helped John Kerry.


 
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