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Wilson discussed Plame’s job publicly a year before Novak
Posted by: McQ on Saturday, November 05, 2005

Many of us are still wondering why Joe Wilson has been ressurected by the Democrats in their latest political gambit when his crediblity was shot through and through by not one, but numerous committees, who've already investigated prewar intelligence.

But there he is, the resurgent poster-boy for the Democrat campaign to prove that the Bush administration "lied" us into war and "manufactured intelligence" to fit the war. It's the latter where Joe comes in and it is Joe's contention that the White House, in an effort to silence him, outed his wife Valery Plame, a supposed covert CIA agent.

To this point, nothing of substance has come out to tie the White House to the outing, but according to WorldNetDaily, Wilson himself outed her to Maj. Gen. Paul Vallely in no less than three and possibly five occassions in 2002:
Maj. Gen. Paul Vallely told WorldNetDaily that Wilson mentioned Plame's status as a CIA operative in at least three, possibly five, separate conversations in 2002 in the Fox News Channel's "green room" in Washington, D.C., as they waited to appear on air as analysts.

Vallely and Wilson both were contracted by Fox News to discuss the war on terror as the U.S. faced off with Iraq in the run-up to the spring 2003 invasion.

Vallely says, according to his recollection, the first time Wilson mentioned his wife's job was around February or March of 2002 – more than a year before Robert Novak's July 14, 2003, column identified her, citing senior administration officials, as "an Agency operative on weapons of mass destruction."

"He was rather open about his wife working at the CIA," said Vallely, who retired in 1991 as the Army's deputy commanding general in the Pacific.
Apparently Vallely wasn't the only one who'd been made aware of her status by Wilson:
Vallely said, citing CIA colleagues, that in addition to his conversations with Wilson, the ambassador was proud to introduce Plame at cocktail parties and other social events around Washington as his CIA wife.

"That was pretty common knowledge," he said. "She's been out there on the Washington scene many years."

If Plame were a covert agent at the time, Vallely said, "he would not have paraded her around as he did."
Well you'd think, huh?
The Washington attorney who spearheaded the drafting of that law told WND earlier this year that Plame's circumstances don't meet the statute's criteria.

Victoria Toensing – who worked on the legislation in her role as chief counsel for the chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence – said Plame most likely was not a covert agent when White House aides mentioned her to reporters.

The federal code says the agent must have operated outside the United States within the previous five years. But Plame gave up her role as a covert agent nine years before the Rove interview, according to New York Times columnist Nicholas Kristof.
Which brings me back to my original question: Given the amount of information available on Joe Wilson which has thoroughly discredited him as well as new information like that above, why are the Democrats so interested in propping up Joe Wilson again?
 
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Answer: because it plays well with the Far Left base of their party. It’s been their mantra now for two years that Bush lied us into war. Just beating that money-drum to whip up furvor that segment of the Democratic Party.

What I find more perplexing is that by doing the above, while ignoring the centrist and even conservative Democrats, they are just sealing their fate at the polls by not appealing to all swing voters.

Yes, they can raise some quick cash in the process, but at what ultimate price?

Not very intelligent if you ask me.
 
Written By: Eric
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Good article
on the CIA’s role in Plamegate:
“…an outline of how we did things at the CIA during the Reagan Administration will … illustrate just how appalling [my emphasis] the agency’s handling of Mr. Cheney’s query really was…”
“Why did the CIA … treat the Vice President’s query about Iraqi efforts to purchase yellowcake in Niger so casually? When Joe Wilson started blabbing in public about his CIA mission to Niger… why didn’t …[CIA head Tenet] say something rather than allow the President’s credibility to be shredded?”
The article dovetails so beautifully with Zell Miller’s take on this issue that one is suspicious that a Rovian plot is being woven by the administration and that the two articles are designed to be parts of it. What times we live in. Whom does one trust? Well, one thing seems certain: the Democrats will do or say anything that they think will keep Alito off the SCOTUS.
Plamegate? It should be called “Spingate”. I have never seen so many detailed timelines fail to produce a coherent storyline.
As a sidenote: isn’t it pathetic that the frustrated left cannot even score when they limit their target to sixteen words in a SOTU speech? Simply pathetic. And against those stupid, bumbling, non-planning, lying, evil, Bushies. Question: Are the Democrats so bad or are the Bushies very, very good?
 
Written By: notherbob2
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This trans-Atlantic political stunt called for a two-pronged attack. Notice that both rely heavily on print and television media for success.

One prong was the forged documents slipped into a well-padded Niger dossier by suspicious means. The content in these "fake but real" documents conveniently made the evening news for weeks, while the rest of the dossier was conveniently ignored.

The other prong was the hyper-publicized release of Joe Wilson’s "Bush-Lied" conclusions.

Here’s the clincher, though. The heralding of the content in the forged documents and Wilson’s book release were carefully choreographed to dove-tail with John Kerry’s Presidential campaign. The coordinated message was intended to provide the cognitive basis of the campaign’s "Bush-Lied" mantra.

I am becoming much more interested in the foreign aspects of this case. I remember that Kerry said he had unnamed European endorsements. Did Chirac’s France, an avowed "ally," really conspire to deliver forged documents into the CIA’s dossier, just to see John Kerry elected? What role did other European government ministries, NGO’s or Cantons play in Kerry’s campaign? Did Kerry’s campaign staff coordinate with foreign governments to mislead our intelligence community? What did they promise these foreign governments for their assistance?

Lastly, what other stunts has this gang pulled that we should know about - but don’t yet?
-Steve
 
Written By: Steve
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If anyone is interested in why Tenet did not refute Wilson’s lies, apparently he did. Thanks to the MSM, no one noticed.
 
Written By: notherbob2
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Worldnetdaily? What, Newsmax was down and Rush was off for the weekend? Seriously, Worldnetdaily?
 
Written By: Oliver
URL: http://www.oliverwillis.com
So, Oliver, do you have any refutation of the article? Or do you think that just by questioning the source, you have provided refutation?
 
Written By: Steverino
URL: http://steverino.journalspace.com
Hey Ollie ... Vallely either said what is quoted or didn’t. WND says he did.

How about it? You have something which shows he didn’t?
 
Written By: McQ
URL: http://www.qando.net/
If the first witness Scooter’s lawyer calls is not Wilson he needs to be disbared.
 
Written By: Walter E. Wallis
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Couldn’t Vallely have said it a little earlier than this? And couldn’t he have said it to somebody more important?
 
Written By: Undertoad
URL: http://cellar.org/iotd.php
Couldn’t Vallely have said it a little earlier than this? And couldn’t he have said it to somebody more important?

I’m sure he could have done both.

Who would you have preferred, Nicholas Kristof at the NYT? That’s who Wilson went too (I guess I don’t understand why "sombody more important" is, well, important).
 
Written By: McQ
URL: http://www.qando.net/
WND has less credibility than the Weekly World News. The Onion is a more verifiable source of information, heck, I’d trust your blog more than WND. So count me skeptical of a right wing propaganda zine suddenly having more information than the Department of Justice.
 
Written By: Oliver
URL: http://www.oliverwillis.com
WorldNetDaily?

You are quoting WorldNetDaily?

Does that mean you also believe the Weekly World News when they report the government is looking to setup a chain of Brothels to solve the deficit problem?
 
Written By: Steve S
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So count me skeptical of a right wing propaganda zine suddenly having more information than the Department of Justice.

Answer the question Ollie. You too Steve.

Have anything to refute it?

This isn’t "unnamed sources claim", or "an administration official has said" stuff ... this is a named source who is quoted outright.

And I assume you both know the logical fallacy you’re both now resorting too to dodge the question.
 
Written By: McQ
URL: http://www.qando.net/
Which brings me back to my original question: Given the amount of information available on Joe Wilson which has thoroughly discredited him as well as new information like that above, why are the Democrats so interested in propping up Joe Wilson again?

WHy shouldn’t they? It’s not like the media will ever print the truth of his actions...
 
Written By: shark
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McQ,
I’ll try to answer your question.

The Democratic patronage machine has vested too much in Wilson - too much rhetoric, too much money, too much media time, too much organizational credibility - to admit he was a fraud now.

This fraud stretches across "the pond," too - where the party finds its roots these days - in the governments, press and NGO’s of Old Europe.

This bunch of dung-beetles has been rolling the same dung-ball uphill for over two years now, and they know that if they stop now it’s all been a waste of time. So...back to rollin’.

All together now: "Bush lied!" "Bush lied!" "Bush lied!"
-Steve
 
Written By: Steve
URL: http://
“Worldnetdaily? What, Newsmax was down and Rush was off for the weekend? Seriously, Worldnetdaily?”
In the liberal cocoon, this passes for debunking. I think the template in the JACK is:
7. What to do with an awkward quote without actually looking it up and thinking about it:
First name the quoted source (No, first verify that it isn’t one of ours. I know, you hate to verify anything, but it may be one of our left wing think tanks and sneering at it for this purpose now could cause problems later. Not that you couldn’t double sneer (and hint at a nuance that the reader is missing) and get by any later awkwardness).
Next, ask a rhetorical question that includes reference to right wing news sources and sneer that the quoted source is no better than (better yet, worse than) the right wing source.
Next say “Seriously, and rename the source followed by a question mark. This template will work because it has been used so often that even on the internet, the sarcasm will come through strongly.
If the person offering the quote questions your conclusion, just come back with a condescencion that indicates that you have no more time for fools.
 
Written By: notherbob2
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They (the Democrats) are convinced enough people are enough like MKUltra that it will get them somewhere. I really think they are wrong.

Yours, TSP, ml, msl, & pfpp
 
Written By: Tom Perkins
URL: http://
Let get this right:

There were weapons of mass destruction? There was an attempt to buy Nigerien uranium? There was a risk of a mushroom cloud? Saddam and 9/11 were linked?

Rove was not part of or even aware of a planned attempt to discredit Wilson that involved his wife and her work? Rove did not consider Plame ’fair game’? The President was totally unaware of all these situations? He was misinformed or simply not told about them by his closest associates, when they were key to going to war, used on TV by Cheyney, Rice and POTUS himself, or part of post was damage-limitation when what we were told about WMD was shown to be untrue??

And the MSM invented all this?

And 60% of the country thinks Bush has questionable integrity because thery don’t realise he was too stupid to see through the untruths, even after they were demonstrated to be untrue?

That’s possible; but more likely the keeness of POTUS to oust Saddam and his determination to go to war come what may (the Downing Street memo) did lead to twisting the evidence. Whether he ’lied’ is a rather Clintonian question. Bush certainly didn’t tell the truth!

Get real, guys: your boy will go down in history as the man who maimed 15,000 American servicemen for at best an illusion, at worst a deliberate string of untruths.

Sleep well.
 
Written By: Paul Hong Kong
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There were weapons of mass destruction?

At one time, yes.

There was an attempt to buy Nigerien uranium?

According to Wilson’s original oral report, yes.

There was a risk of a mushroom cloud?

According to the intelligence at the time, yes.

Saddam and 9/11 were linked?

Other than you, no one has said they were.

OK, this is a complete waste of time.

Thanks for stopping by Paul. When you get a factual handle on all this try us again, will ya?
 
Written By: McQ
URL: http://www.qando.net/
The Free Republic has a very similar recollection via third-hand of Victor David Hansen meeting Joseph Wilson in the Green Room. post 31, 07/17/2005
I had written it off as gossip/urban legend. I certainly hope Maj. Gen. Vallely repeats his recollection with another journalist or on-air with Fox News where he appears as a military analyst.

Why are they so interested in propping up Joseph Wilson? They genuinely believe Bush Lied. And Wilson the Whistleblower fits the narrative.
 
Written By: Bonnie Kate
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I never cease to be amazed at the moonbats who wander in out of the cocoon and decide to write something to wise up the dummies here. First, the only slot they have for anyone not carrying the liberal jones is “right wingbat”. When faced with something other than the familiar liberal talking points, they are clueless. In the cocoon, analysis is actively discouraged since it involves questioning the liberal talking points. In making their comment here, they go through the liberal talking points rosary – ALL of them, regardless of the issue being discussed in the thread they appear in.
They back up the semi and dump the whole load because they have no idea what else to do; selecting which liberal talking points to spout would involve analysis and thought. In the cocoon, no analysis and thought are required or tolerated except within the narrow boundaries of the talking points.
So we are left with the equivalent of a dog turd when they leave. Paul Hong Kong wrote 230 words. After crossing out the standard, boring liberal talking points, we are left with “Let me get this right” and “sleep well”. Idiots.
 
Written By: notherbob2
URL: http://
United States CIA Breaking The Law By Spying On Its Own Citizens.
I knew Valerie’s name back in 1996.
In the midst of all of this Karl Rove\Valerie Plame controversy I have heard Valerie Plame described as being involved in "WMD counter-proliferation". That’s not entirely true however. She and her coworkers were also engaged in spying on Americans inside America. I know. She called me in spring of 2003 pretending to be with
Brewster-Jennings. Following that I got a call from "Gail Heights" at University Services trying to get information. As you may remember, Gail Heights was the alias used by Gao Zhan the Chinese scholar who was convicted of exporting microprocessors to Communist China. This was just one of many attempts by Valerie Plame and her
colleagues to get inside my life something which began in 1996 after applying for a job at the CIA and long before the 9/11 attacks. Other attempts included wiretapping, bugging and surveillance.
This is something which I would like to see her and her colleagues
publicly explain.
For a lot more information, see my article at:
http://www.tomchristianonline.com/
Tom Christian
Weston, FL,USA
 
Written By: Tom Christian
URL: http://www.tomchristianonline.com/
No, TomTheLinkWhore, “THIS WILL DRIVE YOU NUTS” was the subject on the prior post and thread.
 
Written By: notherbob2
URL: http://
First there was Zell Miller’s article.

Then

we hear from a former CIA assistant director
on the CIA’s role in Plamegate.

Now the same story is featured in a WSJ non-subscription item. Hmmmm Is this indeed a Rove-orchestrated propaganda initiative or a developing story (or both)? In the olden days we could check the MSM to differentiate between right wing propaganda and news stories. Nowadays [see SwiftVets] the MSM won’t touch anything that is favorable to the talking points of the right, no matter how good the story. So anything suggesting that the CIA was out to get Bush in the Plame affair is, by definition, notnewsnothingtoseeheremovealong. You say you have a smoking gun? Well, buddy, to get the MSM to cover this one you will need an atomic blast AND a mustard gas attack. Just as the fake documents sank the TANG story, verifying that Joe Wilson was part of a plot to discredit Bush will kill the Bush lied/troops died story. I know that is stupid, but this is what the MSM hath wrought. Therefore, they will violate their journalistic ethics (oxymoron, I know) to whatever degree required to ignore this story. That leaves us with all right wing sources (and the Oliver Willis’s of this world sneering “That. Is that your source? That?).
Still, the Rove version (if that is what it is) makes a lot more sense than the DNC version of a vengeful White House violating the law by outing a CIA operative in order to deligitimize her spouse. [not to mention that a very expensive and thorough special prosecutor investigation has failed to verify the DNC version].
 
Written By: notherbob2
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WND has less credibility than the Weekly World News.
Willis has less credibility than "I never had sex with that woman".
Saddam and 9/11 were linked?
Other than you, no one has said they were.
Ummm... Perhaps you’ll want to read here:

One of the Democrats’ and The Poodle’s favorite ploys is to harp on is that Saddam had no connection to Al-Qaeda and no weapons of mass destruction. Despite mounting evidence to the contrary, the left continues to advance the lie. Well, now comes even more evidence of Saddam’s ties to terrorism and his weapons of mass destruction.

Iraqi intelligence documents taken by U.S. forces show a number of efforts by Saddam’s government to work with Al-Qaeda, along with other terrorists. The documents also show that Saddam had mustard gas and anthrax, both considered weapons of mass destruction. By the way, some of those weapons, artillery shells with sarin gas, have already been found. You did know that, didn’t you?

The papers also show that Iraq trained terrorists, along with orders by Saddam to attack Americans in Somalia. Remember that? The particular memo in question was written 9 months before the Army Rangers were ambushed in Mogadishu, And if that weren’t enough, the documents include lists of Saddam’s terrorist buddies that he worked with, including al-Zarqawi and al-Zawahiri. The former is still in Iraq, and is responsible for beheading a number of Americans. The latter’s voice is believed to be heard on the latest tape broadcast on Al-Jazeera (where else) calling for attacks on Americans everywhere.

No matter how much evidence comes to light that Saddam Hussein supported terrorism and that Iraq was a terrorist state, the Bush-hating media and Islamic terrorist apologists will never concede any justification for the war in Iraq. Why?
THen where are the WMD?
Syria, then North Korea.

 
Written By: Bithead
URL: http://bitheads.blogspot.com
Joe Wilson fumes over Paul Vallely charges
Ambassador Joseph Wilson’s attorney is demanding Maj. Gen. Paul Vallely retract a statement he made to WND that the man at the center of the CIA leak case "outed" his own wife as a CIA employee in conversations more than a year before her identity was revealed in a syndicated column.
 
Written By: broslosky
URL: http://
Let him fume.
He’s just giving the story legs.
 
Written By: Bithead
URL: http://bitheads.blogspot.com
....Sen Rockefeller and Joe Wilson Exposed"

...Joe Wilson should be investigated and then questioned under oath!

Start a petition and get his stupid ass on a stand!

Conservative pundits and bloggers should demand an investigation as to what role Wilson, Plame and the democrat operatives within the CIA had in this faulty WMD intelligence and the so called leak.



This smells to High Fucking Water!!!!


Wilson was a supporter and donor to the Kerry/Edwards campaign for the presidency, and served as an unpaid advisor and speechwriter for the Kerry campaign in 2003 and 2004.

In 2000, he donated to Vice President Gore’s campaign. In the mid-eighties, Wilson worked for Gore as a congressional staffer. He has made contributions to the campaigns of Democratic candidates such as Hillary Clinton and Ted Kennedy.

He has in the recent past spoken to activist groups like Win Without War, which is a part of MoveOn.org.

On the other hand, he also donated $1,000 to George W. Bush’s 2000 presidential campaign and $1,500 to Rep. Ed Royce’s (R-CA) 2000 reelection campaign. [4]



SENATOR ROCKEFELLER if you remember some months back had a secret memo spelling out how to undermine the President.

It was found and leaked!

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/7/12/122437.shtml


Sen ROCKEFELLER also sits on "Select Committee on Intelligence "—

http://rockefeller.senate.gov/news/2005/pr102805.html

I belive he has been working on this for a while, it was a set up,

and the dumb Republicans trying to be bipartisan, on the sub committes allowed him to do it.

There goal was clear try to use Joe Wilson to get at the President!

And to attack his securty record, and the reasons for war in Iraq!



SENATOR ROCKEFELLER’S STATEMENT ON SPECIAL PROSECUTOR FITZGERALD’S INDICTMENT OF WHITE HOUSE OFFICIAL SCOOTER LIBBY

“It is a terrible day for all Americans when a top White House official is accused of lying and obstructing justice, made all the worse when it’s about a national security matter.


“Revealing the identity of a covert agent is the type of leak that gets people killed. Not only does it end the person’s career, and whatever assignments they may have been working on, it puts that person in grave personal danger as well as their colleagues and all the people they have had contact with over the years.



“These very serious charges go to the heart of whether administration officials misused intelligence by disclosing an undercover CIA agent. They also heighten concerns that the administration engaged in a pattern of misusing intelligence to make the case for going to war with Iraq.



“To date, Congress has completely failed to answer these critical questions. The fact is that at any time the Senate Intelligence Committee pursued a line of questioning that brought us close to the White House, our efforts were thwarted. If my Republican colleagues are not prepared to undertake a full and serious congressional investigation into the potential misuse of intelligence, then I regretfully conclude that we have no choice but to pursue an outside independent investigation. The American people deserve answers and they want the truth.”



“We must send a strong message to all the patriotic Americans in our intelligence agencies who continue to serve their country at great personal risk. Our government and our judicial system will not tolerate those who leak classified information and put the lives of others at risk.”


http://hiphoprepublican.blogspot.com/

 
Written By: Dirty Republican
URL: http://hiphoprepublican.blogspot.com/
....Sen Rockefeller and Joe Wilson Exposed"

...Joe Wilson should be investigated and then questioned under oath!

Start a petition and get his stupid ass on a stand!

Conservative pundits and bloggers should demand an investigation as to what role Wilson, Plame and the democrat operatives within the CIA had in this faulty WMD intelligence and the so called leak.



This smells to High Fucking Water!!!!


Wilson was a supporter and donor to the Kerry/Edwards campaign for the presidency, and served as an unpaid advisor and speechwriter for the Kerry campaign in 2003 and 2004.

In 2000, he donated to Vice President Gore’s campaign. In the mid-eighties, Wilson worked for Gore as a congressional staffer. He has made contributions to the campaigns of Democratic candidates such as Hillary Clinton and Ted Kennedy.

He has in the recent past spoken to activist groups like Win Without War, which is a part of MoveOn.org.

On the other hand, he also donated $1,000 to George W. Bush’s 2000 presidential campaign and $1,500 to Rep. Ed Royce’s (R-CA) 2000 reelection campaign. [4]



SENATOR ROCKEFELLER if you remember some months back had a secret memo spelling out how to undermine the President.

It was found and leaked!

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/7/12/122437.shtml


Sen ROCKEFELLER also sits on "Select Committee on Intelligence "—

http://rockefeller.senate.gov/news/2005/pr102805.html

I belive he has been working on this for a while, it was a set up,

and the dumb Republicans trying to be bipartisan, on the sub committes allowed him to do it.

There goal was clear try to use Joe Wilson to get at the President!

And to attack his securty record, and the reasons for war in Iraq!



SENATOR ROCKEFELLER’S STATEMENT ON SPECIAL PROSECUTOR FITZGERALD’S INDICTMENT OF WHITE HOUSE OFFICIAL SCOOTER LIBBY

“It is a terrible day for all Americans when a top White House official is accused of lying and obstructing justice, made all the worse when it’s about a national security matter.


“Revealing the identity of a covert agent is the type of leak that gets people killed. Not only does it end the person’s career, and whatever assignments they may have been working on, it puts that person in grave personal danger as well as their colleagues and all the people they have had contact with over the years.



“These very serious charges go to the heart of whether administration officials misused intelligence by disclosing an undercover CIA agent. They also heighten concerns that the administration engaged in a pattern of misusing intelligence to make the case for going to war with Iraq.



“To date, Congress has completely failed to answer these critical questions. The fact is that at any time the Senate Intelligence Committee pursued a line of questioning that brought us close to the White House, our efforts were thwarted. If my Republican colleagues are not prepared to undertake a full and serious congressional investigation into the potential misuse of intelligence, then I regretfully conclude that we have no choice but to pursue an outside independent investigation. The American people deserve answers and they want the truth.”



“We must send a strong message to all the patriotic Americans in our intelligence agencies who continue to serve their country at great personal risk. Our government and our judicial system will not tolerate those who leak classified information and put the lives of others at risk.”


http://hiphoprepublican.blogspot.com/

 
Written By: Dirty Republican
URL: http://hiphoprepublican.blogspot.com/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_C._Wilson

Just a few facts!!!

USA The controversy surrounding Wilson began with President Bush’s 2003 State of the Union Address , in which he stated that "The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa."

Two months later, documents suggesting that Iraq had tried to buy 500 tons of uranium from Niger, were judged to be "obvious" forgeries by the IAEA.

However, the documents that the IAEA judged to be forgeries were not the same documents that the British based their original assessment on. Two British Parliamentary reports confirmed the original intelligence. One of these reports (the Butler Report) suggested that the forged documents were distributed with the knowing goal of being discovered as obvious forgeries so as to discredit the intelligence. The documents were obtained by the

U.S. Embassy in Rome on October 9, 2002, and distributed throughout the U.S. intelligence community shortly thereafter, but not passed on to the IAEA until February 3, 2003. The IAEA released its report a month later, just weeks before the start of the Iraq war.

On July 6, 2003, Wilson authored an op-ed essay in the New York Times[6] in which he accused the Bush administration of "exaggerating the Iraqi threat" in order to justify war. In the article, Wilson states: "The vice president’s office asked a serious question. I was asked to help formulate the answer." Critics of Wilson have contended that he falsely claimed to have been sent by the vice president personally. However, in the quotation above and other instances Wilson has said only that he was sent by the CIA in response to questions asked by the vice president’s office.

The day after Wilson’s editorial, titled "What I Didn’t Find in Africa" appeared, White House aides said that the State of the Union Address should not have contained the reference. And Secretary of State Colin Powell, then traveling with the President in Africa, gave a press conference addressing the issue, saying "There was sufficient evidence floating around at that time that such a statement was not totally outrageous or not to be believed or not to be appropriately used. It’s that once we used the statement, and after further analysis, and looking at other estimates we had, and other information that was coming in, it turned out that the basis upon which that statement was made didn’t hold up, and we said so, and we’ve acknowledged it, and we’ve moved on."[7]

The administration still maintains that other intelligence that Iraq may have attempted to acquire uranium in Africa may have been correct, and many supporters of the theory point to Butler Report, which found that there was credible intelligence that Iraq had attempted to acquire uranium from Niger in 1999 and less certain intelligence that Iraq had attempted to acquire uranium from the Democratic Republic of Congo. Critics of the theory view the evidence relating to the Democratic Republic of Congo as suspect, and point out that while the President’s speech mentioned only Africa, press secretary Ari Fleischer explicitly affirmed that this was a reference to Niger.[8]

[edit]
The Senate Intelligence Committee Report
A Senate Intelligence Committee report issued on July 7, 2004 challenged some of the statements made by Wilson.

The report suggests that Wilson’s wife was involved in his selection for the mission. As reported by the Washington Post:

The report states that a CIA official told the Senate committee that Plame "offered up" Wilson’s name for the Niger trip, then on Feb. 12, 2002, sent a memo to a deputy chief in the CIA’s Directorate of Operations saying her husband "has good relations with both the PM [prime minister] and the former Minister of Mines (not to mention lots of French contacts), both of whom could possibly shed light on this sort of activity." The next day, the operations official cabled an overseas officer seeking concurrence with the idea of sending Wilson, the report said. [9]
However, several CIA officials have since stated that the person who wrote this memo was not present at the meeting where Wilson was chosen. Accounts of Valerie Plame’s involvement in her husband’s selection differ significantly. Wilson has claimed that she simply contacted him on the agency’s behalf and escorted him to the meeting before leaving. The evidence cited above, if accurate, would indicate that Plame may also have recommended her husband and/or written a summary of his qualifications when he was being considered. In contrast, Matthew Cooper’s e-mail records that Karl Rove told him that Plame had actually authorized the trip.

Wilson’s report has also come under fire for inconsistency. As reported in the same Washington Post article:

The report also said Wilson provided misleading information to The Washington Post last June. He said then that he concluded the Niger intelligence was based on documents that had clearly been forged because "the dates were wrong and the names were wrong."
"Committee staff asked how the former ambassador could have come to the conclusion that the ’dates were wrong and the names were wrong’ when he had never seen the CIA reports and had no knowledge of what names and dates were in the reports," the Senate panel said. Wilson told the panel he may have been confused and may have "misspoken" to reporters. The documents—purported sales agreements between Niger and Iraq—were not in U.S. hands until eight months after Wilson made his trip to Niger.
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The trip to Niger
The bulk of Wilson’s op-ed dealt with his trip to Niger in 2002. Many further details of the trip can be found in the U.S. Senate Select Committee on Intelligence Report on the U.S. Intelligence Community’s Prewar Intelligence Assessments on Iraq, which contains a 48 page section dealing with intelligence related to Niger.

In late February of 2002, Wilson had been sent to Niger on behalf of the CIA to investigate the possibility that Saddam Hussein had attempted to buy enriched uranium yellowcake. Wilson concluded then that there "was nothing to the story".

But he also reported that, although former Nigerien prime minister Ibrahim Assane Mayaki was unaware of any pending sales contract with Iraq, an Iraqi delegation had approached him in June 1999, expressing an interest in "expanding commercial relations". Mayaki believed this may have meant that they wanted to purchase yellowcake uranium, one of Niger’s few exports. Mayaki claimed he refused to discuss any trade issues at all due to active UN sanctions on Iraq, and so steered the conversation in another direction. [10] Wilson’s critics claim that this evidence provides further confirmation that Iraq may have been trying to purchase uranium in Africa, and that he failed to include this information in his op-ed.

The piece did, however, include Wilson’s assessment that "Given the structure of the consortiums that operated the mines, it would be exceedingly difficult for Niger to transfer uranium to Iraq. Niger’s uranium business consists of two mines, Somair and Cominak, which are run by French, Spanish, Japanese, German and Nigerian interests. If the government wanted to remove uranium from a mine, it would have to notify the consortium, which in turn is strictly monitored by the International Atomic Energy Agency. Moreover, because the two mines are closely regulated, quasi-governmental entities, selling uranium would require the approval of the minister of mines, the prime minister and probably the president. In short, there’s simply too much oversight over too small an industry for a sale to have transpired."

An article in the 25 October, 2005 edition of the Italian newspaper La Repubblica indicates that Wilson’s statements about Niger were correct. The article claims that Nicolo Pollari, head of the Italian Intelligence Service, SISMI, knew the Nigerien documents were forgeries, but tried to go around the CIA to get them into the public eye in the US. The documents contained several misspelled French words and contained signatures from Nigerien officials who hadn’t even been in office at the time they were signed.

La Repubblica also claims that Pollari met with Stephen Hadley, previously the Deputy National Security Advisor, on 9 September, 2002, to discuss the documents without going to the CIA, who had reservation about the documents. That date was before the speech given on 7 October, 2002, when Bush specifically claimed uranium was sought from Niger.

 
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