The day Hamas won the Palestinian elections, the world's leading democracies failed the test of democracy. Rather than recognize the legitimacy of Hamas as a freely elected representative of the Palestinian people, seize the opportunity created by the result to support the development of good governance in Palestine and search for a means of ending the bloodshed, the U.S. and the EU threatened the Palestinian people with collective punishment.
Just because Hamas has been democratically elected, that places no obligation on us to support them. Democratic elections are the least of our concerns. Democratic elections are the most very basic, minimal requirement for entry into modern civilization. And even if you have them, they don't outweigh sending suicide bombers into pizzerias. Having an election doesn't gloss over all other evils.
Israel, by the way, has had democratic elections on a regular basis since 1948. By Mr. Meshaal's reasoning, that obligates us to support Israel, too. Which, of course, we are. Heh.
As I've said repeatedly, all democracy is, is a way of determining what the electorate wants. Whether what the electorate wants is morally acceptable is an entirely different question. The German electorate made the Nazi party the largest political party in the Reichstag in three separate national election in 1931-32. So what? Did that require us to supinely accede to Nazi demands? (OK, yeah, we did, for several years, but we didn't have to.)
Hamas hates us, hates Israel, and essentially considers us all infidels and enemies. And, based on the results of the election, a good number of the Palestinian people believe that, too. We aren't obligated in any fashion to support people who hate us, hate our allies, and wish to destroy the regions only stable-long-term democracy. You say you hate us. The Palestinian people apparently agree with position. OK. We got it. Don't blame us if we believe you, and make policy based on what you so evidently want us to believe.
Moreover, arguing that, because you’re a democracy, Western democracies have to support you so that you can destroy the Israeli democracy just doesn't pass the laugh test.
Still, you have to have brass balls the size of watermelons to make the argument. So, 10 out of 10 for style for Mr. Meshaal.
We are being punished simply for resisting oppression and striving for justice. Those who threaten to impose sanctions on our people are the same powers that initiated our suffering and continue to support our oppressors almost unconditionally. We are being penalized while our oppressors are pampered. The U.S. and the EU could have used the success of Hamas to open a new chapter and to understand better a movement that has so far been seen largely through the eyes of the Zionist occupiers of our land.
Well, actually, the Zionist occupiers have been saying you want to destroy them. Now, you say you want to destroy them. So, I'm not seeing the daylight between your two positions. So, what's there to understand? I think our understanding has been made much clearer, already.
I'm sure that living under Israeli occupation has been a difficult trial for you. Perhaps you should've thought of that before mobilizing against Israel in '67, at the instigation of that Egyptian whack-bag, Nasser. In any event, in the present case, your Zionist occupiers, have withdrawn from Gaza, and from most of the West Bank, turned over Palestinian government over to Palestinians, and you've just had a mainly free and fair election.
Those darn opressors. Always allowing free elections and withdrawing from your territory. Those bastards!
Our message to the Palestinians is this: Our people are not only those who live under siege in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip but also the millions languishing in refugee camps in Lebanon, Jordan and Syria, and the millions spread around the world unable to return home. We promise you that nothing in the world will deter us from pursuing our goal of liberation and return.
Yeah...about those refugee camps. Gotta admire the way your Arab brethren have gone out of their way to help the "Palestinian" people, or—as they were known prior to 1968, the Jordanians. You've been penned in refugee camps for 60 years, thanks to the UN and your fellow Arabs, but I guess that's all just part of intricate Jewish—oh, pardon me, Zionist—plot, huh?
We shall never recognize the right of any power to rob us of our land and deny us our national rights. We shall never recognize the legitimacy of a Zionist state created on our soil in order to atone for somebody else's sins or solve somebody else's problem.
But if you are willing to accept the principle of a long-term truce, we are prepared to negotiate the terms. Hamas is extending a hand of peace to those who are truly interested in a peace based on justice.
This what you call your cognitive dissonance. One of these two paragraphs simply can't be true. Either your goal is to drive the Jews into the sea, or it is not. If it is, there's no purpose to a truce, except to give you time to arm, and become even more dangerous. I don't particularly see the use of that.
You're running the government now. You have a state, or, at least, an idiot stepsister to a state. Having a state requires that you either deal with other states in good faith, or face the danger of a state-to-state response. That you do not appear to recognize this makes me think that you're not ready for prime time as a government.
Miscalculations that you make as a terrorist group are often survivable. Mistakes when dealing with other states, often are not.
Well, actually, the Zionist occupiers have been saying you want to destroy them. Now, you say you want to destroy them. So, I’m not seeing the daylight between your two positions. So, what’s there to understand? I think our understanding has been made much clearer, already. -Dale Franks
So why don’t we just move Israel to Westphalia instead of stealing real estate from the poor Palestinians? After 57 years it still is just an illegal land-grab...
People deserve to have equal rights regardless of what religion they are. Do you not realize that the Zionists set up a JEWISH state and not a democratic state? Why do you think it is OK for a minority of a population to ethnically cleanse hundreds of thousands of people because of their religion.
Do you think it would be OK to change the U.S. into a "WHITE State"?
Do you know that the U.S. is more white than Israel is Jewish? Why do you think it is OK to discriminate against 20% of Israel’s population just because they are not Jews?
Ending the Jewish supremacist system is considered "Israel ceasing to exist". Not that ending the supremacist system will lead to "Israel ceasing to exist" but that ending the supremacist system would be by definition "ending Israel". Zionists consider the racist foundation to be an essential characteristic of Israel. It would not be Israel if all citizens had equal rights. What this means is that a non-Jew cannot call for equal rights without being accused of calling for the "destruction of Israel". What isn’t told is that ending the discrimination means that Israel ends since Israel is a system of discrimination. To end the discrimination means to end Israel.
WHat would we think of whites in America who insist that Blacks should not have equal rights. You need to open your eyes to the reality of what Israel actually is. Allowing ALL people, regardless of their religion, to have equal rights means the end of Israel because Israel IS a system that denies full equal rights to all people.
"...in an effort to prevent negotiations and a diplomatic settlement, the U.S. and Israel insisted on raising the barrier to something that nobody’s going to accept. Certainly, the Palestinians can’t accept it. They’re not going to accept Israel’s existence but also the legitimacy of its existence and the legitimacy of their dispossession. Why should they accept that? Why should anyone accept it?" Written By: Tom Murphy
Why should the American taxpayer continue to pay for this nonsense after 57 years? It will never be accepted. Never.