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Immigration protests: Is a backlash building?
Posted by: McQ on Friday, March 31, 2006

Victor Davis Hanson discusses the recent pro-immigration (or were they pro-illegal immigration?) rallies in various cities, but particularly in southern California. He then asks:
If the demonstrators thought that they were bringing attention to their legitimate grievances—the sheer impossibility of deporting 11 million residents across the border or the hypocrisy of Americans de facto profiting from "illegals" who cook their food, make their beds, and cut their lawns—they seemed oblivious to the embarrassing contradictions of their own symbolism and rhetoric. Most Americans I talked to in California summed up their reactions to the marches as something like, 'Why would anyone wave the flag of the country that they would never return to—and yet scream in anger at those with whom they wish to stay?' Depending on the particular questions asked, polls reveal that somewhere around 60-80% of the public is vehemently opposed to illegal immigration.
It also points, at least in my opinion, to an underlying current which was present in the demonstrations. Sure, there were many who were simply there to ask they be given some sort of legal status so they could continue to work in the US. However other groups were at work as well and they're a part of what is loosely known as the "reconquista", the Mexican dream of retaking the Southwest.

Among the more specific groups are MEChA and La Raza.

MEChA is described as an anti-American student group who wish to liberate the mythical Aztlan (which is essentially Mexico and the American Southwest):
The acronym MEChA stands for "Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan." or "Chicano Student Movement of Aztlan."

MEChA is an Hispanic separatist organization that encourages anti-American activities and civil disobedience. The radical members of MEChA who refer to themselves as "Mechistas," romanticize Mexican claims to the "lost Territories" of the Southwestern United States — a Chicano country called Aztlan. In its national constitution, MEChA calls for self-determination by its members to liberate Aztlan. MEChA's national constitution starts out: "Chicano and Chicana students of Aztlán must take upon themselves the responsibilities to promote Chicanismo within the community, politicizing our Raza with an emphasis on indigenous consciousness to continue the struggle for the self-determination of the Chicano people for the purpose of liberating Aztlán."
You can read their "philosophy" here. A brief snippet:
1) We are Chicanas and Chicanos of Aztlán reclaiming the land of our birth (Chicana/Chicano Nation);

2) Aztlán belongs to indigenous people, who are sovereign and not subject to a foreign culture;

3) We are a union of free pueblos forming a bronze (Chicana/Chicano) Nation;

4) Chicano nationalism, as the key to mobilization and organization, is the common denominator to bring consensus to the Chicana/Chicano Movement;

5) Cultural values strengthen our identity as La Familia de La Raza; and

6) EPA, as a basic plan of Chicana/Chicano liberation, sought the formation of an independent national political party that would represent the sentiments of the Chicana/Chicano community.
It mentions "La Familia de La Raza", or La Raza for short.

A brief description of "La Raza":
La Raza" (The Race) is a broad term which refers to those whose ancestry is indigenous to the area of Mexico (or "Aztlan"). MEChA members refer to themselves as "La Raza" or "Raza," but the term itself is used to indicate camaraderie among those in different organizations with the same objectives. There are a number of organizations who consider themselves to be La Raza.

The most visible of these groups are MEChA, The Brown Berets de Aztlan, OLA (Organization for the Liberation of Aztlan), La Raza Unida Party, and the "Nation of Aztlan" to name a few. Although the activism of these organizations vary from somewhat radical to extremely radical, they share the same objectives, the "liberation of Aztlan." Each follows the Raza manifesto "El Plan de Aztlan (sometimes called "El Plan Espiritual de Aztlan"). The Nation of Aztlan, tied to La Voz de Aztlan disseminates the exact same propaganda that MEChA spreads including antisemitic propaganda. Believers in the Aztlan legend insist upon the indivisibility of "La Raza" and their common goals, one of them being the need to abolish the border between the U.S. and Mexico. There is a myriad of Raza college newspaper. Some are El Popo, Aztlan News, Chispas, Gente de Aztlan (UCLA), Voz Fronteriza (U.C. San Diego), La Voz Mestiza (U.C. Irvine) and La Voz Berkeley. It is not uncommon for the writers of these publications to refer to the U.S., as "AmeriKKKa."
From the introduction to "El Plan de Aztlan":
In the spirit of a new people that is conscious not only of its proud historical heritage but also of the brutal "gringo" invasion of our territories, we, the Chicano inhabitants and civilizers of the northern land of Aztlan from whence came our forefathers, reclaiming the land of their birth and consecrating the determination of our people of the sun, declare that the call of our blood is our power, our responsibility, and our inevitable destiny.

We are free and sovereign to determine those tasks which are justly called for by our house, our land, the sweat of our brows, and by our hearts. Aztlan belongs to those who plant the seeds, water the fields, and gather the crops and not to the foreign Europeans. We do not recognize capricious frontiers on the bronze continent.

Brotherhood unites us, and love for our brothers makes us a people whose time has come and who struggles against the foreigner "gabacho" who exploits our riches and destroys our culture. With our heart in our hands and our hands in the soil, we declare the independence of our mestizo nation. We are a bronze people with a bronze culture. Before the world, before all of North America, before all our brothers in the bronze continent, we are a nation, we are a union of free pueblos, we are Aztlan.
You should make it a point to read the rest.

One common theme you'll find among the organizations within this movement is a strong socialist leaning. For instance, in the list of organizational goals:
2. ECONOMY: economic control of our lives and our communities can only come about by driving the exploiter out of our communities, our pueblos, and our lands and by controlling and developing our own talents, sweat, and resources. Cultural background and values which ignore materialism and embrace humanism will contribute to the act of cooperative buying and the distribution of resources and production to sustain an economic base for healthy growth and development Lands rightfully ours will be fought for and defended. Land and realty ownership will be acquired by the community for the people's welfare. Economic ties of responsibility must be secured by nationalism and the Chicano defense units.
And Anglos aren't the only targets of their hate. Evidence of antisemitism also exists.

All of that to provide background to Hanson's next point:
To understand the backlash to all this that is rising, think back to the 2003 California recall election for governor. When it was clear that Gray Davis had lost public support and was finished, for a while it looked as if Democratic Lieutenant Governor Cruz Bustamante might well be a shoo-in. After all, California was a solidly blue state, and the Republican challengers, actor and political novice Arnold Schwarzenegger and the unknown State Senator Tom McClintock, would probably split the minority Republican vote.

But then Bustamante very quickly began to scare the electorate. He was unapologetic about his past MEChA (Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlán) ties, even when that otherwise irrelevant radical student group's mottos and separatist constitution found their way into the public discourse. He tried to redefine his unsavory fund-raising with the Indian gaming industry as a point of ethnic pride, promised driver's licenses for illegal aliens, and then aired seemingly suicidal television ads showing him shouting to Latino crowds in a sea of waving red flags.
The Aztlan movement is certainly a dream of a certain part of the protesters we saw this last week. It is they, most likely, who were flying a Mexican flag over an upside down American flag. It was they who were hostile and provocative. And it is they who are responsible for the brewing backlash against illegal immigrants.
Something of the same backlash may soon follow these demonstrations. There are over 300 million resident Americans, and the vast majority of them are citizens. Had the demonstrators marched chanting "God Bless America," confined their flag waving to Old Glory, and expressed thanks to a magnanimous United States that gave them a second chance when a corrupt Mexico has precluded their first, then they would have won public support.
All true. Think of the psychology of "America". We root for the underdog, we support those who want to make something of themselves and we're sympathetic to those who want to work hard and support their families. But we have little patience with those who denigrate our flag, our culture or our country. And all of those things were present in the immigration protests. Not overwhelmingly by any stretch, but certainly visible enough.

The fantasy of Aztlan isn't going to come to fruition. Ever. But those who militantly support it hurt those who are simply asking for some sort of recognition of their status. Upside down American flags subordinate to the Mexican flag are just the type of images that can destroy any reasonable chance of reform that would be favorable to those who are here illegally.

In cases like this I'm always reminded of Admiral Yamamoto's words following the Japanese bombing of Pearl Harbor. "I fear all we've done is to wake a sleeping giant and fill him with terrible resolve". In some ways the illegal immigration situation is coming to be viewed as a cultural Pearl Harbor. Those who are interested in actually becoming a part of that culture, whether here legally or illegally would be wise to distance themselves from those who harbor the fantasies of the MEChA and La Raza. At some point, if this sort of disrespect continues, the sleeping giant will awake, and Washington DC will indeed quake and react. That reaction may not be the most reasonable in the world depending on what mood the majority of the country is in (a recent example is the Dubai port deal).

I want to see a resonable solution to the problem of immigration. Fanning nationalist fires from the fringe and pissing off the majority of the American population, as many of these protesters have done, is not the way to accomplish that.
 
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This goes too far. To assume that that immigrants, who are not all from Mexico, subscribe to these loonie points of view resists no analysis. The Aztlan BS seems more the creation of some pinkos at the universities that of the average Mexican janitor in California. It’s like the hippies in the 60s.

If you don’t like Mexicans because they are short and ugly say it overtly. Mexicans or not, what immigrants want is more money like anybody else. If you give them liberty to legally bargain their earnings, they will be more than content. Further, they very susceptible to government propaganda and, when allowed, join the armed forces by more than their fair share. The bottom line is the bottom line.
 
Written By: Joe
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Joe:

"In the quiet words of the Virgin Mary ... ’Come again?’"

Seriously. You can’t be the same "Joe" who frequently posts here. Your prose is impenetrable ... like a forest full of idiot trees and imbecile brambles.
 
Written By: MichaelW
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If it weren’t for the "brutal conquest" by the gringos, Texas and California would be like Oaxaca or Chihuahua, just another dirt poor state in the Estados Unidos de Mexico.
They should be grateful; it saved them an even longer trip to cross the border into Oregon or Idaho.
By the way, which native American tribe invented Spanish?
 
Written By: timactual
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Joe, I think McQ was generalizing a bit for sensational effect. It’s a journalistic technique used to grab a reader’s attention.

On the whole, though, nothing he posted about the Reconquistas is incorrect. These radicals’ ties to Central American gangs is worth exploring, too.

It looks like Hispanic Americans are going to have to ferret out the radicals in their midst soon - just as Fallujah’s Sunnis were forced finally to deal with their foreign terrorist problem
-Steve
 
Written By: Steve
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Yeah, Joe, of course, nothing to it, is there?
 
Written By: McQ
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It looks like Hispanic Americans are going to have to ferret out the radicals in their midst soon - just as Fallujah’s Sunnis were forced finally to deal with their foreign terrorist problem.
As usual, Steve gets it.

Joe, otoh ...
 
Written By: McQ
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I sure hope a backlash is growing. Congress, and the Administration need to feel our ire, fast and hard.

It just stuns me how the unfettered Leftists reveal themselves on these occasions. If they wanted to endear themselves to the rest of us, they might at least pretend to be loyal Americans, or American wannabes. Instead, they show their naked ambition to destroy our culture. They feel emboldened by their belief we are indifferent or effete.

Regardless of the "reality" of 12 million illegals, and the presumed impossibility of getting rid of them, we need to secure our borders before we even begin to talk immigration reform.
 
Written By: Roger Snowden
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"By the way, which native American tribe invented Spanish?"

timactual nailed their hypocracy. Chicanos are not indingenous to North, Central or South America. They are of Spanish descent. Last time I checked Spain was in Europe. To be consistant they should be advocating all humans with European ancestry return to Europe, which includes themselves, and return the lands to the real natives.
 
Written By: Doug Purdie
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Well the first Joe ain’t me...
I am really convinced,~90%, that the Latino’s will be assimilated just like my forebears, the Irish and the Poles. It’s not the IMMIGRANTS that are the problem, it’s the guilty white guys that are going to do us all in. "Oh don’t assimilate, America is Sexist, Racist, Bigoted, and Homophobic, a Mechano-Capitalistic society that oppresses Gays, Lesbians, Bisexuals, the Transgenderd, Women, People of Colour and the Poor." The Pomo’s and Critical Theorists in Poli Sci and Gender Studies Departments, the Ward Churchills and the DeGenova’s that will do in the US.

I think MEChA and La Raza are just a minority movement. I think someone hit the nail on the head with they’re Hippies. Just think of them as Mexican Hippies. In 20 years they’ll all have pony-tails, BMW’s and a house and 2.5 kids, of course they’ll still CARE and will still be VERY liberal, but mostly they’ll just be like any other group of 40 y.o.’s...and I KNOW 40 y.o’s!!!!
 
Written By: Joe
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JOE, most black americans are not affiliated with the Nation of Islam, but they wield huge influence in the black community. Likewise Mecha and LaRaza are racist hate-groups who wield a lot of influence. A whole lot, they organized these marches, they have active legal wings constantly sueing people and governments.
 
Written By: Kyle N
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The Aztlan movement is certainly a dream of a certain part of the protesters we saw this last week. It is they, most likely, who were flying a Mexican flag over an upside down American flag. It was they who were hostile and provocative. And it is they who are responsible for the brewing backlash against illegal immigrants.
McQ, aren’t you being a little paranoid about the whole Mexican flag thingie???
After all, there’s nothing to be afraid of, right?

Janet Murguia, President, National Council of La Raza explains…
DOBBS: Why are all those demonstrators out there carrying Mexican flags?

MURGUIA: Well there’s a sense of pride with anybody. We just had St. Patrick’s Day. Are you saying that Irish, because they’re holding up their Irish flags, that all of a sudden they’re not loyal or they’re un-American? It’s a double standard to say that people from one country can wave their flag, but people who want to be Americans can wave another flag, but they’re not being loyal. That’s a double standard. Irish Americans...

DOBBS: ... Are you accusing me of a double standard?

MURGUIA: Well, I’m just saying.

DOBBS: Because I want you to look me in the eye and I want you to hear me loud and clear.

MURGUIA: Yes, I’m right here.

DOBBS: OK, are you ready to listen to me loud and clear?

MURGUIA: I’m here.

DOBBS: I don’t think that we should have any flag flying in this country except the flag of the United States. And let me tell you something else, since we’re talking about double standards and I think you’re right about people who would believe that.

But let’s be clear. I don’t think there should be a St. Patrick’s Day. I don’t care who you are. I think we ought to be celebrating what is common about this country, what we enjoy as similarities as people. And as Peter Viles was reporting, talking about the culture and the heritage of their people and that’s why they want to hold up the Mexican flag or Ecuadorian flag.
Hey, waita’ minute.
Is Lou Dobbs suggesting that in order to promote unity as Americans we should rid ourselves of St. Patrick’s Day?

Okay…
I’m with ya’ McQ.

Time to get my Irish up.

;)

Cheers.
 
Written By: PogueMahone
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Why is everyone assuming that the protesters were illegals? If I were an illegal, I don’t think I’d be a’marchin’ in LA in front of God, the INS and everybody.

But then again, if I were a legal immigrant and I felt that my host country were being unfair to my extended family who weren’t legal, maybe I would march.

 
Written By: Peter Jackson
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McQ, aren’t you being a little paranoid about the whole Mexican flag thingie???
After all, there’s nothing to be afraid of, right?
Pogue, it always helps to read the whole post before going off half cocked:
I want to see a resonable solution to the problem of immigration. Fanning nationalist fires from the fringe and p*ssing off the majority of the American population, as many of these protesters have done, is not the way to accomplish that.
It’s like the problem Islam now suffers ... it is allowing its fringe to define the whole.

I’m simply saying it isn’t to the advantage of those interested in immigration reform (read "legalizing illegals") to allow this fringe (see the word in the paragraph Pogue?) to define their movement because I can promise, it won’t help their cause.
 
Written By: McQ
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Why is everyone assuming that the protesters were illegals? If I were an illegal, I don’t think I’d be a’marchin’ in LA in front of God, the INS and everybody.
In that large a crowd, why wouldn’t they?

There’s no capability to arrest (or if truth be known, even control) that large a crowd. And in LA there isn’t any will either.
 
Written By: McQ
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Pogue, it always helps to read the whole post before going off half cocked
I often go off half-cocked no matter.
(the entire comment was sarcastic, anyway. I thought the wink/smiley face emoticon would have suggested that. My apologies.
I agree with you.)
 
Written By: PogueMahone
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In the spirit of objectivity and fair coverage, it would be wise to also tell the other side of the story, about anti-immigration organizations some with clear ties to racist groups :

Many of them also believe there is a secret a plot by the Mexican government and American Hispanics to wrest the Southwest away from the United States in order to create "Aztlan," a Hispanic nation. Only four of the 10 groups described below are designated as "hate groups" by the Southern Poverty Law Center
Chicanos are not indingenous to North, Central or South America. They are of Spanish descent. Last time I checked Spain was in Europe. To be consistant they should be advocating all humans with European ancestry return to Europe, which includes themselves, and return the lands to the real natives.
I strongly suggest taking a history lesson on how Spanish came to be spoken throughout Mexico, that there are indeed indigenous Mexicans and non-indigenous Mexicans. What type of warped logic is that determining ones ancestry on the basis of what language one speaks ?

FYI : Large amounts [~10%] of the population, mostly in Mexico City, Jalisco, Sonora, Sinaloa, Coahuila, Tamaulipas, Nuevo León and Chihuahua and other large metropolitan areas, is of unmixed white European descent.
 
Written By: obie
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The fantasy of Aztlan isn’t going to come to fruition. Ever.
It’s funny, last fall, I was in Paris during the riots, and the subject of Algeria came up in discussion - how it had been considered thoroughly French, and then lost to creeping demographics. I mentioned Los Angeles, and the increasing Latino population of the border states, and the suggestion was made that one day the US might lose the southwest the same way France lost Algeria. "What are they going to do? Send in the army? We tried that, and look where it got us."

There is an element of aged-European fatalism there, but also some truth - without the political and societal will, active will, to prevent such a thing, and the actions that go with it, it WILL happen.
 
Written By: Rollory
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There is an element of aged-European fatalism there, but also some truth - without the political and societal will, active will, to prevent such a thing, and the actions that go with it, it WILL happen.
I think you’re mixing up a city becoming latino with Aztlan. Miami may be increasingly Hispanic, but it’s still American and those living there certainly aren’t trying to make it a part of another country.

Like I said, "Aztlan isn’t going to come to fruition. Ever."
 
Written By: McQ
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"how it had been considered thoroughly French"

Algeria may have been considered thoroughly French by the French, but the native Arabs, who were always the majority, had other ideas. Colonial powers have a tendency to think that the conquered natives are content with their lot as subjects of the minority of foreign colonists.
 
Written By: timactual
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"McQ, aren’t you being a little paranoid about the whole Mexican flag thingie???
After all, there’s nothing to be afraid of, right?"
While I realize Kyle N was being just a tad facetious, there actually IS something to be afraid of!

Check out http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com

I advise EVERYONE to download this video. Share the link with your friends, with anyone you know who may be on the side of the illegals. It is shocking in its impact. It is one thing to read the quotes being said by these people as I have done for years and a whole ’nuther ballgame when you hear them, see the speakers and the crowds. If this does not wake the sleeping sheeple in America, NOTHING will! (video http://www.idawg.com/aztlan.wmv )

It is only a 3-minute video, about four megs in size.

"This is our continent, not yours!" exclaimed one banner. "We are indigenous! The only owners of this continent!" said another. "If you think I’m illegal because I’m a Mexican, learn the true history, because I’m in my homeland," read another sign. Well, I will give them another..."Remember the Alamo!"

As someone who has a LOT of so-called "indigenous" blood in her veins(Apache,Cherokee and Seminole) in addition to my European blood, I say horse hockey! Those of the Mexica Movement are no more "indigenous" than people of white European stock. Their ancient relatives can be found throught the Artic Circle.

The truth of the matter is, they are more genetically, culturally, physiologically and linguistically related to the nomadic Reindeer People, who spread out from what is now the Republic of Tuva, a former Soviet satellite. The Reindeer People of the Mountain Taiga of Central Asia — the Tsaatan of northern Mongolia and Siberian peoples in the Todja region of Tuva, Dukha reindeer people of Mongolia, also called Tsaatan, in the Tofilar region in Irkutsk, and Evenki in southern Yakutia, migrated following the wild reindeer.

The Reindeer People have shamans (forerunner to medicine men), totems, revere nature and many live in tipis. Their clothing is very similar to many Artic Circle tribes and many of their artistic symbols are almost identical to those found in the Americas.

To those with ears open to hear the truth, the first shots in Civil War II were heard all across America, but especially in Los Angeles...where I have warned so many times it would begin. Think back to the Watts riots and the riots following the Rodney King verdict. Now imagine those 500,000 marchers going totally berserk, which Mexican crowds have a history of doing. Not a pretty thought, is it?

I defy anyone to watch that video and say there is nothing to be afraid of the hate you will see there.

If you have yet to prepare your family for the violent times ahead in America, do it NOW! This is especially true if you live in or near large cities with extensive ethnic communities. The tensions are very high between latinos and blacks already and it will not take much of a spark to ignite the powderkeg. This is not exactly a good time to be a "gringo", either!

Many Americans have come to prefer Native American over Indian both as a term of respect and as a corrective to the famous misnomer bestowed on the peoples of the Americas by a geographically befuddled Columbus. Since they are not native, I prefer the term "Amerind."

The Mexica Movement claims ownership of the American continents. Why don’t they just claim Europe and Asia while they are at it? It makes about as much sense. Just as the Reindeer People were conquered by the Mongolians, Chinese and Russians, the United States conquered Mexico. Older civilizations always fall to younger ones. It is a fact of life. I say get over it! 500 years is long enough to accept what IS and that there is no reversing the sands of time.

—Henrietta Bowman

 
Written By: Henrietta Bowman
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While I’m all for assimilating, please note that we should keep any and all national holidays from the old countries.

It’s fun and a great excuse to party.
 
Written By: Harun
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Simply put:

WHY?

Why are we basically silent? I appreciate the bloggers and comments and agree with nearly all sentiment against this alien invasion. But why when i do a google news search do i find 1 or 2 releases about the illegal protest backlash. It does not exist. Yet there are thousands of reports about the "civil rights movement" happening in this country and the protestors arent even American citizens. It is insainity!We have 10 to 20 million illegals that just squatted on our land and are now gathering en masse to demand we give them a part of our country if not all of it..and virtually no one gathers to defend it let alone counter these protests. I know we all have jobs and lives but where are the American anti-illegal protests and why does the media like to ignore the truth and alwways spin it the wrong way. Someone? Anyone? please enlighten me?
 
Written By: theking
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Once again we are being mislead by a confounding logic that attempts to disarm the argument of what to do with 12million illegals already in this country.


The obvious first conclusion is to stop the flow and account for the present transgressors.

To suggest that we cannot physically deport the entire alien population "all at once" is a setting up an impossible conclusion that intentionally by design cannot be achieved and to the delight of the proponents of this illegal activity begs the question then what? - In other words, they have taken a broad swipe at trying to resolve an enormous problem and then concluded that it is, "impossible"... so, we better do the opposite. Ok?

This is misleading and self serving by nature.

Why cant we??? legally, realistically and humanely begin to deal this quagmire and begin to eliminate the enabling factors? It is would be a holistic approach to dealing with the entire problem in concert for effect and resolution.

If we stopped the rhetoric and moved directly to a practical solution, we would be on a path to a solution. But that presumes the intent that we truly want a practical solution.

If we stopped the welfare and executed the current policy by enforcing existing laws including prosecuting employers for exploitation, tax evasion and hiring illegal labor; there would be a dramatic change in the flow of illegals. If we only enforced a living minimum wage for all (documented or undocumented), this would dramatically change the tide of exploitation. The companies would surely dry up the employment for illegals if they had to actually pay fair wages, benefits and follow the law.

If we eliminated the red tape and loopholes that allow this activity to flourish the activity would diminish.

First, economics and entitlement need to dry up. Then enact penalties for both alien and employer consistently. Demagnetizing the source along with proactive deportations would force even 30 million, out of the shadows, to begin to account for themselves.

Doing these things along with securing the border, accommodating migrant guest workers, and deporting every other alien proven to be here illegally would SOLVE THIS PROBLEM. Not only would it secure this country but it would almost ensure the advancement and evolution of the entire process. This system is broken not by poor legislation but by lack of enforcement and honesty.

To hear both sides of our government rely on a manufactured false assumption as the reasoning for inaction is insulting to me and should be equally insulting to every one else.

We are being fooled.
 
Written By: logical american
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Not including those that would qualify for this amnesty, but regarding the millions of aliens that already play by their own rules; I ask the question, WHY???

Why would any of them participate in the McCain/Kennedy plan if they don’t have to or if they cannot fulfill their obligations? Then what happens?

If we already have up to 20 million aliens that could care less about our laws then why would they suddenly jump into action and join this society?
They are already here receiving the same or MORE entitlements than legal American citizens. Surely many would apply for amnesty but what about the rest?

Illegals already get welfare benefits and education including (IN STATE COLLEGE TUITION), they already get homes and loans, they already get hospital care. They already get the employment that outsource many Americans(if labor laws were enforced). They already affect the voting blocks of every state in this union. They already presume that they have a political voice to protest en masse against both the existing and future laws of OUR country. (Note: they protest our laws by the tens of thousands while at the same time, selectively ignoring others)

Why would they change their path and follow this criteria, even as accommodating as it is, what about the thousands that could care less for our rule of law?
Sure, many would take advantage of this amnesty and many more would continue to take advantage of everything else.

I do not believe that being a citizen is what they want as much as receiving more of what they are already are getting.

The flags and reconquista demonstrations prove that.

All they want is the cumulative power to change this country to suit their needs. Foremost on that list appears to be opening the border for the rest of their countrymen.

So, the amnesty proposal is just a sham that will legalize some and ignore the rest. Its amnesty either way you look at it. McCain say’s they "go to the back
of the line" but the truth of the matter is that they never have to leave to get there.

Just because McCain says so doesn’t make it the truth. Unfortunately, i thought he was a better man but that is, aparently, not the case. What is also apparent is that
John McCain wants future mexican voters more than he wants to protect this country; even at the expense of his existing constituents.

When i am told "to go to the back of the line" for a movie or concert tickets etc... i don’t get to watch the show while the others wait. Its simply a lie.
 
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Did you watch "the day after tomorrow", at the end the American goverment ends up encamped in Mex., I told my husband (a US citizen) THAT’S A SCARY THOUGH a world without America!!, even I get backlashed when I tell people to learn english, I have been warning my husband about this issue for years, to no avail until we had other businesses cutting us out, we pay taxes, business insurance, b. license, etc., and they don’t and have an endless supply of illegal workers that will work for nothing, cutting our prices to half.
Get it through your head: YOU ARE NOT LOVED BY ALL THE PEOPLE OF THE WORLD, I grew up in Mexico, Americans are seen as proud, know-it-all, and guilty for all their problems. Close the borders because I don’t want to live in another Mexico, where the minority rules, and there is just the rich and the poor that serves them. Who funds all these activities? who has te money? drug lords, they don’t want the borders closed, it goes beyond what you see.
About May 1st: didn’t the terrorists of 9-11 disrupted our economy?, what are these illegals saying? the same: "they will show us, they will bring our economy to a stand still", these are terrorist tactics. The goverment says: threat advisory: Elevated, I say with 11 mil+ illegal immigrants here and 200,000+ coming in every month it is above ELEVATED. They are saying "this is a walk out", why don’t they walk out all the way back to Mexico. Somebody is doing something check www.securingourstate.com (sos).And also what Representative Sue Myrick (NC) and sheriff Jim Pendegraph are doing to deport illegal immigrants at the LOCAL level, ask your sheriff to do the same (I already did)
 
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