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Cynthia McKinney: Georgia’s race baiting embarrassment
Posted by: McQ on Tuesday, April 04, 2006

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution today weighed in on the Cynthia McKinney controversy with an editorial that roundly condemns how the Congresswoman has handled the fallout about a confrontation with a police officer on Capitol Hill. (For those of you not familiar with Ms. McKinney, a refresher done earlier by QandO can be found here.)
In her embarrassing confrontation with the U.S. Capitol Police, U.S. Rep. Cynthia McKinney has demonstrated that while she may have changed her trademark hairstyle, her personal style remains as offensive as ever.

[...]

A smarter, less arrogant politician would have smiled at the officer who stopped her, extended a hand and explained: "I'm Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney from the great state of Georgia, and I appreciate your diligence in keeping the Capitol safe. Next time, I hope you'll recognize me." She would have had a pal for life.

But why make friends when you can make headlines? Two days after the scuffle, McKinney faced TV cameras and stayed true to form, charging the officer with racism.

"The whole incident was instigated by the inappropriate touching and stopping of me — a female, black congresswoman," she said.

McKinney's haughty position — that every Capitol employee ought to know her by sight and that she should never have to endure checkpoints like the riffraff — evinces the arrogance and ego that voters expect from elected officials. It may be inconvenient for self-important people such as McKinney to stop and show their IDs, but it's essential in these scary times of terrorist bombings and anthrax attacks.
McKinney epitomizes everything that is wrong with politicians today. Arrogant, petty, delusional and narcissistic, McKinney refuses to accept responsiblity or blame for her part in the confrontation with the Capitol Police Officer last week.

In typical McKinney fashion, the situation has been boiled down to the default position of most marginal black politicians: it is all about race.

No one denies that problems based in race still exist in the daily life of the nation. And as the link demonstrates, not all race based problems are white on black as some, such as McKinney would have you believe.

But it should also be realized that not every problem faced by blacks is race based either. However, when you have no other defense for your actions and given our nation's sensitivity to racial matters, it certainly is a convenient fall-back position isn't it?

Because of the ravages of political correctness, where conversations and debates are routinely stopped by playing the race card, McKinney feels secure in throwing out this trump. Divert attention, shift blame, and, finally, call the other side racist.
"The issue is racial profiling and that's something we have to deal with as a country," McKinney, 51, said.
End of story.

Well not this time.

Race baiting used to be the exclusive provenience of the dominant and powerful white race in this country. That condition and situation no longer exists. Cynthia McKinney, marginal politican and embarrassment to the state of Georgia, is a race baiter. And for once in a long while, the editorial board of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution and I agree:
In the past, McKinney has complained that she's mistaken for the "hired help" in Washington. In the next election, DeKalb residents can help clear up that confusion by putting an end to McKinney's employment with them.
Amen.

UPDATE [Jon Henke]

In case you're not clear about just how bigoted and unkind McKinney is, check out this video. A Capitol Hill security guard approaches her — simply doing his job and ensuring she's allowed to pass — and, recognizing her, apologizes and waves her on. To which, she responds with "That's just the typical kind of treatment that I receive. It's typical, so I'm not surprised and I'm not offended. [...] Some things never change. That's what Tupac said."

She's got a martyr complex, and she's had it for a long time. Previous examples of her lunacy here (9 topics on her Issues page, including Education, Health Care and....Hip Hop?) and here. (a collection of her post-Katrina ridiculousness)
 
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Well, you just can’t handle a n*gger who won’t lie down and be walked all over, can you?

Jeez, I’m *English* and recognize Congresswoman McKinney - and I’m not even paid to do so! Why some *American* cop who works (or is *supposed* to work) in the Capitol and whose *paid job all week* is to *protect* these people can’t do his job is the question. 16 year old House pages have to do it. There’s just 14 black American women he has to recognize. What’s difficult about that? I bet we’d never hear the end of your whining about the threat to national security if it had been Trent Lott or any of his fellow crackers. Get over it.
 
Written By: Amos
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This has nothing what so ever to do with race. Protocol is protocol. She was not wearing her identification pin when she entered the building. What did she expect? As a government official, she should be glad the police are doing their job by asking questions when the circumstances warrant it, especially in a post 9/11 environment. She is not above the laws or regulations of this country and should be held responsible for her actions. It is plain to see that her only defence now would be to play the race card, because she knows she f**ked up. If she had just apoligized to the police officer in the first place, none of this would be happening. What would happen to someone not in government if they decided to strike a police officer who had asked them to stop three times? Felony assault of a police officer, thats what. I don’t think there is much of a self-defence claim when it involves hitting a police officer, regardless of whether he grabbed her or not, after repeated warnings to stop and identify herself. She is a typical example of everything that is wrong with the world. Take responsibility for your actions!
 
Written By: Matt
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"protocol is protocol"

Bafoon, the "protocol" in place is that Congressmen and Congresswomen need not pass through the "checkpoint" and are merely allowed to walk through based on "face recognition". In other words, the protocol is that you simply walk past the checkpoint because the security is charged with knowing each and ever Congressmen and Congresswomen. There is NO requirement to wear your "identification pin" as you called it. However, your phrase is misleading because this pin does NOT have a picture ID on it and Congressmen and Congresswomen routinely do NOT wear their pin- just watch C-SPAN and look to see how many of them are wearing it. Furthermore, the Capitol policeman has been working there for a number of years. This is not his first day on the job. Congresswoman McKinney has been an elected official for several years as well. This policeman was clearly NOT doing his job if after all these years he still is unable to recognize the face of one of only a handful of Black representatives. Finally, I love how you pay lip service- claiming that "No one denies that problems based in race still exist in the daily life of the nation." This line is always used by people who then want to deny a specific event was racism. Racism today is second-generational racism, as in- it is institutionalized. Law enforcement emphasize surveillance on minorities because there is the misperception that minorities are more prone to commit crimes. The policeman reflected this by immediately assuming that a black woman walking past the checkpoint clearly could not be a Congresswoman.
 
Written By: John Win
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Whether the Capital Hill security should recognize every congressman on sight — even from behind, after a makeover — is irrelevant. They have the right, the duty, to ensure the security of their area. That includes the obligation to check on people about whom they have a question.

The police had a legal right to ask her—or any other Congressperson—to stop so he could check. Perhaps he could be more familiar with faces, but that’s irrelevant to the legal rights and duties he had and performed.
 
Written By: Jon Henke
URL: http://www.QandO.net
I’m just going to go copy John and Amos’s posts to the wikipedia under "Examples of Race Baiting"
 
Written By: Chris
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I find it hard to believe that the officers do not "really" have to check for the official identification pin. I work NCAA basketball tournaments and have heard of well known coaches having to find their identification pins before being allowed access to the basketball court.

Have white congresspeople been allowed in without their identification pins?

How does John Win know that officers aren’t noticing the id pin, as well as recognizing most of the Congressmen and Congresswomen?
 
Written By: Kate Hale
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What nonsense calling this woman ’narcissistic’ and to say she epitomizes what is wrong with todays politicians is ridiculous. Look at what she has done in congress. She has championed Black farmers who were delt an injustice. She certainly has not gone out and shot someone and then tried to conceal it and she has hot told any body in congress to go **** himself. She has been outspoken and courageous. To even attempt to say that her hairstyle led to this incidence is ridiculous. Millions of other Black women ware a hairstyle similar to hers. Are they too subject to harrassment?

Cynthia Mckinney is well known in congress and as a congress person she is not required to show her Identity pin. The pin is not an official I.D. anyway. Ms. Mckinney went through what millions of Black Americans at some point in their life are subjected too. Harrassment by socalled protecting police. How can anyone who has heard the rants of Jesse Helms and some of the other bigots and clowns in congress try and single her out. She is an outspoken Black woman. That is what she is supposed to be. She is in congress. She is not there to be silent but to advocate for her constituencies and protect the laws of this country. Reading her voting record I find nothing inappropriate.

She has not gone out and tried to redistrict other elected officials and have them hunted by Texas Rangers. She has not taken bribes. If she did you would never hear the end of that. So lets tell the truth. She has been targeted by someone who wants to hurt the Democrats because so many Republicans have been exposed for the corrupt criminals that they are.
 
Written By: dawilliams
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"There’s just 14 black American women he has to recognize. What’s difficult about that?"

The other 13 don’t seem to have had problems. What’s difficult about that?
 
Written By: The Unabrewer
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Wow - QandO sure is getting the McKinney sympathizers today. And to all the sympathizers I say - you are wrong. McKinney was wrong and all she had to do was show ID. Failing that, all she had to do was apologize. But no, she turned this into a circus act. Which is somewhat appropriate as she is a clown.

She is an EMBARRASSMENT to the state of Georgia and particularly the 4th Congressional District.
 
Written By: meagain
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Congreesperson McKinney did NOT show ID... She did not stop when asked to do so...She got what she deserved. And rather than admit she made a mistake, one that could easily have been "laughed off" and put behind her she claims racism, sexism, and "inappropriate touching." Pretty sad, actually doubly sad.

Because this is a conscious choice, to get face time and generate support in her district in an election year. mcKinney is doing nothing more or less than Judge Moore did with the 10 Commandments, riding a media wave to get free PR, for a political campaign.

I guess it’s TRIPLY sad that it seems to be working, by looking at the comments here, I see that Cynthia’s supporters are mobilized and ready to defent her, "You Go Girl!", so her race-baiting has acheived it’s, purpose her re-election.
 
Written By: Joe
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Well let me ask all those people who are calling the Capitol policeman wrong for requesting ID. Well if he did not do his job correctly she could have had him removed from his post but to ASSAULT him that is a real Crime and then to use RACE as an argument... Well she is trying an :"O J Simpson"

You would never see a Conde Rice pull that kind of a classless stunt now she is a real leader...
 
Written By: Hamilton
URL: http://k9-protection.net
The appeal to check C-SPAN for members wearing their pins is beside the point. C-SPAN shows floor proceedings...a location that is beyond the security checkpoint. Once the Representatives pass the checkpoint there is no longer a need to wear the pin.

Additionally, is it not bigoted for members of a certain race to expect to be identified solely beause of their race and therefore afforded special priveleges because of their (numerical) minority status?

The best comment on the Wolf Blitzer interview was made by her lawyer speaking via telephone who in effect said that the case was that members of Congress should not have to wear identification for security purposes because they should be immmediately recognized as members. The argument is drawn from the fact that congressional pages are quizzed on the appearances of MoC. It is reasonable for pages to have to recognize members because they interact with them on a personal level more frequently and intensively than the Capitol Police. Furthermore, pages being only 16, are quizzed on such appearances as it adds to the awe and privelege of the position they’ve been granted.

McKinney is baiting, pure and simple. What is pathetic is that she knows she is baiting and lacks the fortitude to proclaim it outright.
 
Written By: josh
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A few facts for the sympathizers -
For the fifth time since 1993, U.S. Rep. Cynthia McKinney, D-Ga., had a run-in with Washington security personnel when an officer failed to recognize her.
Hmmm - 5 times? I believe there’s a saying that goes ’insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results’.
"I am absolutely sick and tired of having to have my appearance at the White House validated by white people," she said at the time.
I’m sure it would have gone over quite well if Trent Lott said ’I’m tired of having my appearance at (pick your spot) validated by BLACK people’. There would have been no protests. Nope. And the NAACP? I’m sure they’d let remark like that slide...
 
Written By: meagain
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Issue the warrant for McKinney and let her prove her innocence in a courtroom setting, where the security video can be reviewed and seen by the entire American public. Let the evidence speak for itself.

McKinney may be yelling racism now, but she would yell even louder if the police let some thug into her office. Then she’d be complaining they’re not protecting her enough because she’s black and they don’t care about her safety. If you’ve never been on Capitol Hill, you don’t understand or appreciate the security environment the cops are charged with controlling. Don’t try to view McKinney’s actions based on YOUR work environment. It would be like assuming you driving down a local residential street is equivalent to driving the Atlanta 500 racetrack —an illogical comparison.

Also, enough with the racial trash-talking. Such theatrics are a disgrace to competent, hard-working, successful women everywhere. I’d bet my next professional paycheck that many black women are rolling their eyes just like their sister professionals of all races. We wish McKinney would just shutup and do some high-quality work for a change.

Understand, McKinney, you can’t have it both ways. Take responsibility for YOUR inappropriate behavior and leave the Capitol Police alone. An even better solution for us who live and work in the DC area (AKA "our home") who want all the Federal police protection we can get: Go back to Georgia and harass the local cops in YOUR neighborhood. Leave our cops alone.

A much better "END OF STORY!"
 
Written By: Ann
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Wow...I am never surprised at the complete idiocy of people. For the McKinney apologists, that means you. This woman is hanging by a thread of sanity and nothing more. Black/white, republican/democrat, man/woman...it does not matter. She’s a loon.
 
Written By: RFN
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Go back to Georgia and harass the local cops in YOUR neighborhood. Leave our cops alone.
Sure Ann - send her back to us. Thanks for nothing ;-)
 
Written By: meagain
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Wow, deja vu. The McKinney defenders sound just like the Scientology defenders that did a drive-by a couple of weeks ago.
 
Written By: Billy Hollis
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I mentioned the same thing to jon in the chatroom Billy. Well, there have only been 2 so far, so maybe it wont end with 70 comments like the Scientology posts.
 
Written By: Chris
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Hey, Idiot Mckinney apologists...

There are 535 members of Congress. Do you think for a minute the Cynthia Mckinney could ID all 535 members of Congress if the photos were placed in from on HER???? Can YOU ID 535 people right of the top of your head? During busy times when LOTS of people are walking by you at once?

Of course, maybe the Capitol Police SHOULD have know Mckinney on site. Cops are usually familiar with the complete WACK-JOBS in thier vicinities.

Georgia, please, PLEASE rid congress of this complete embaressment to our nation.
 
Written By: Hal
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In a letter to Concerned Black Clergy of Atlanta, I wrote (I have recieved no reply):

TWIMC,

I am going to try and keep this brief. I am a
life-long Democrat and a service-disabled Desert Storm veteran. I would like to talk with someone about the incident with Rep. Cynthia McKinney and I would prefer to do so with someone within your organization who has worn the uniform.

The capital guard who stopped Rep. Cynthia McKinney should not be reprimanded or sued, he should be commended for doing his job as instructed. By fighting this, you are making Democrats look like idiots.

The situation as I have read it is as follows; Rep. Cynthia McKinney walked into the capital without her lapel-pin pass and did not stop at the security checkpoint. She was told to stop three times and did not comply. Please correct me if I am wrong.

Now I do not care what color anybody is; if they cross a security checkpoint in our nation’s capital where our lawmakers do their job and they did not have the correct pass, that person should be stopped with all reasonable force including lethal force.

Your leader, Rev. Darrell D. Elligan, said “[s]he is not a threat to the security of our country." My friend, what IS a threat is someone, ANYONE, going into the capital without the proper pass and not being stopped. What am I missing?

She did not have the pass; correct? She did not stop as ordered; correct? How is that any different than the president wiretapping US residence without a warrant; both are against the law. She then further violated the law by getting into an altercation with the man doing his job and doing it BY THE BOOK.

Please, someone needs to talk with this woman before it gets any more out of hand. She needs to apologize to the guard and accept that he was doing his job and drop this. This situation is not good for our cause. Our cause IS security; our cause is the majority of the House and Senate going Democrat, our duty is to honor those who risk their lives to keep us safe.

The guard was doing his job and frankly, it seems to me that he was doing it well. Would you prefer that he let someone go by without the proper
identification? Would it have been so hard for her to simply show her ID? Please help make this go away.
 
Written By: Louie N.
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John Wins Comments:
"Bafoon?" Maybe you should call me racist for my opposing viewpoint, or maybe you should strike me because you feel you have that right. Seems your hero congresswoman does. I think she could be considered a racist for continuing to defend her actions as correct by placing the blame at the feet of the "white" police officer. Cudo’s to the law enforcement community for backing up their fellow officer.If you have had any sort of security or police training, the first thing they teach you is when someone tries to enter an unauthorized area without identification, regardless of what they may look like, if the situation is questionable it is the guards responsibility to check them out. How was the guard supposed to identify her face when she is walking away with her back to him? Was security busy with something else while she walked around the checkpoint? Only people who were present will know.Whether she was required to wear her pin or not is irrelevent. The facts have still been stated and verified by witnesses: She was not wearing identification, she refused to stop and answer the guard, the guard makes an attempt to stop her, she strikes him. How can you defend someone who belongs anywhere but the government? Why is it that she seems to be the only female-black representative who has had repeated problems with capitol police? Seems this is an occuring trend with a disturbing frequency. Why is it that anytime someone does something wrong, they are quick to blame society, police and everyone else under the sun but themselves? An elected official is supposed to be a representation of the voters who put them there in the first place? Unless she was elected by the insurgance members in Iraq, she has no business in politics. She is by definition "narcissistic", anyone who saw her CNN interview with Wolf Blitzer, and a firm grasp of the english language will agree. She did everything to skate around the issue, as well as promote herself as a "hero to anyone black who has ever been harrassed by law enforcement" which just makes her laughable in the eyes of anyone too smart to get caught up in the politics of playing the race card everytime someone other than a white person does something wrong. I hope they nail her to the wall, not only because of what she supposedly did, but because of how she is handling the situation.
 
Written By: Matt
URL: http://
Sure Rep. Cynthia McKinney was wrong to do what she did, but there are a lot worse crimes that politicians commit than this.

Why aren’t you getting so worked up about Rep. Tom Delay and the disgrace he has brought to his office, or the appalling mess that we have in Iraq now because of the blunders of George W Bush?

Have McKinney’s actions left hundreds of our soldiers dead? No.

Have tens of thousands of Iraqi civilians been killed as a result of her actions? No.

Is the world a more dangerous place because of her actions? No.

Yet apparently this is such a big issues that you feel justified in ranting and raving about it, without ever challenging the catastrophic mess that’s happening now in Iraq, and the increased threat we all face as a result of our actions in Iraq.

I say it’s time to get a sense of perspective.
 
Written By: milty rhodes
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Gee, I am white, reading all these posts, they have a common thread.. all the Mckinney haters have blatant racist overtones. They all seem to written by FAUX "news" junkies. (Ohhhh, terrorists, get the duct-tape.) As an aside, the only attack on the governemt itself was an unsolved Anthrax attack on Democrats.. NONE of you clowns were there.. You ONLY have the report of the capitol-police.. at 64 years old, I have learned NEVER trust what a cop says. They will spin and protect themselves and their own.. So I take ANYTHING the cop says with a "grain-of-sand".. Did C.M. "hit" or "punch" the cop..?? I doubt it.. he grabbed her, she turned around and pushed him away..?? That sounds FAR more plausable.. I have HEARD, I have SEE cops in court claim someone "hit" or "punched" them when no such thing occured. Are the vast majority of cops on the right, you bet. Why is it conservatives, particularly republicans are such COWARDS.. You are afraid of EVERYTHING...You are SOOOOOO WEAK... Terrorists EVERYWHERE.. Think you should start at the top... (US Army, Vietnam Vet)
 
Written By: Steve
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Dear Steve, I ALWAYS take the accounts of politicians with a grain of sand. Why don’t you, ESPECIALLY as a Vietnam Veteran?!

And really all the criticisms have BLATANT racist overtones? Would you care to provide evidence? Or is the evidence that anyone would attack C.M.?

Milty, it’s Congressperson McKinney that’s making the big deal, not us... Rather than say, "Oooops, my bad", we get sexist, racist, inappropriate handling, profiling, victim of being Black in Congress, all with Danny Glover thrown in. As I said this all so that she gets free PR and lotsa of support for her re-election. If you’re her constituent I’m sure she’s glad you know her name and support her.
 
Written By: Joe
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Why aren’t you getting so worked up about Rep. Tom Delay and the disgrace he has brought to his office
Ahem
or the appalling mess that we have in Iraq now because of the blunders of George W Bush?
Ahem.
 
Written By: Jon Henke
URL: http://www.QandO.net
It bothers me that members of congress are allowed to pass around checkpoints, period. Seems like 535 chances for someone to smuggle a bomb. How hard would it be for an enemy of the U.S. to come up with someone who resembles one of the lower profile members of congress and a fake lapel pin?
 
Written By: Ed
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I will bet most Republicans sided with the police, and Democrats, for the most part, with the Congresswoman. This is not only an indictment against McKinney, it goes to issues of race, the legal system, and the divisiveness of politics in America today.

McKinney should have respected authority, sure. But, as a black person, she knows authority often disrespects and abuses people of her race. At some point, as a black person, one can no longer accept the indignities. Snap at the wrong time, though, and the result can be construed as criminal.

I am sure McKinney did not harm the officer. Likewise, she was unharmed, at least physically. If manners still carried sway, both would apologize - McKinney for not respecting the policeman, the policeman for not recognizing the Congresswoman. And that would be the end of this.

That’s civility. And it is sorely lacking in the divisive United States, where manners seem to take a back seat to confrontation, anger, and an inability to look at things from another’s perspective.
 
Written By: Gavin Ehringer
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Gavin, why does the policeman have to apologize for doing his job?
 
Written By: Joe
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Excuse me, Milty Rhodes, but no one in this forum started the "ranting and raving" about McKinney’s situation. She did — in the newspapers, on TV, holding press conferences, threatening to take civil action again the Capitol Policeman who "inappropriately touched her," etc. So, don’t try to redirect the comments away from her ridiculous behavior to something or someone else.

I have lived in the DC area for almost 40 years, worked many years for the Federal government in professional positions, read the Washington Post every day, and am a liberal female Democrat. Yet, I wouldn’t recognize McKinney if she was standing right in front of me. We’re used to being bombarded with news photos and TV clips of prominent politicians, government executives, lobbyists, etc. So, obviously her picture isn’t in the news media enough for her to be as "prominent" locally as she thinks she is. Maybe in Atlanta, but not here!

I’ve worked in secure DOD environments, where the rules are: No Badge/Credentials, No Entrance, No Matter Who You Are! I respect the security personnel for doing their jobs professionally. God forbid they let undocumented people pass through that they "think" look like legitimate employees. McKinney should abide by the security rules or find employment someplace else — preferably, off the federal payroll.

 
Written By: Ann
URL: http://
If you wonder why congress has such a low approval rating and why the democrats can’t get any traction: Take a look at Cynthia McKinney.

What committee do you want her in charge of?
 
Written By: Daniel B.C.
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Take a look at Cynthia McKinney. What committee do you want her in charge of?
The Committee for the Re-election of Tom DeLay.
 
Written By: Jon Henke
URL: http://www.QandO.net
I sincerely do not believe this was a case of Racism or racial profiling. I do think that the security guard had the duty to check out any person’s identity that he was not 100% positive about. I also think that even if the security guard was racially motivated to check the congresswoman’s ID, I think we, as a country would have to be insane to make racism an excuse for assault. If you would like to make the argument that the security guard assaulted her first by restraining her physically go ahead but as I understand it the Security guard requested or some might say ordered the congresswoman to stop 3 times which she choose to ignore. This would increase suspicion not lessen it as well as the fact that no one is above the law and if someone within Law enforcement request you stop and you refuse or flee the Law enforcement person will stop you and detain you if possible.
Also many people on both sides say that you cannot deny that racism exist and is a problem. This is very true, but what is not being brought to the attention of anyone is that by screaming racism and handling this situation so poorly the congress adds muck to the waters making true racism that is much more appalling that much harder to see, not to mention that it take attention away from the real racism issue to put a spotlight on her politics and parlor games, doing a disservice to the cause.
The truth is as long as we define ourselves as human beings with our differences rather then or similarities then racism is an issue that will never end regardless of which direction it comes from.
 
Written By: Dave S. Oakwod GA
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Gotta admit, the good congresswoman is handling this (for her) a lot better than usual, since she hasn’t yet stooped to blaming the jooos.

But I’m sure that’s on the way.

In the meantime, I encourage all of her "supporters" who think this was no big deal to go out and do the same to their local cops.
 
Written By: shark
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At some point, as a black person, one can no longer accept the indignities. Snap at the wrong time, though, and the result can be construed as criminal.
Construed as criminal? Look Gavin, if you or I did anything like this we would have at minimum spent time in a jail cell. She struck a uniformed officer. Period. The defense of ’well she did not hit him that hard’ or ’he’s fine’ is foolish. We are a nation of laws. Our legislators should be held to the highest possible standards. And CM has been found wanting.
 
Written By: meagain
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As Mark Twain once said, "Suppose you are an idiot. Now suppose you are a Congressman. But I repeat myself."
 
Written By: Chris
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gop will suffer black backlash big time for snickering like wimps when a white cop grabbed a black woman who had the right to pass.

gop please keep talking. this is your plan for all the f*ck ups you caused. giggle like a coward as a black woman is wrongfully grabbed by a cop.

thanks
and congrats to tom delay. rove is next!
 
Written By: billy
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Police are trained to recognize criminals...she will be recognized by every cop in the country after her trial. Problem solved.
 
Written By: Mickey
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Billy, Karl Rove is not going to run for Re-Election? And Billy what backlash is the GOP going to suffer from a group that votes 90% Democrat to begin with? You’re going to vote 110% Democratic this time, 215% Democratic this time?
 
Written By: Joe
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I am a black Democrat. That being said, I don’t understand how this woman thinks she’s helping our cause (blacks or Democrats).

This is a Big issue because she made it a big issue. When it happened it wasn’t a headline on CNN, Drudgereport or Faux (FOX) news. You had to search to find more info on it. SHE has made it into a big issue by grandstanding at Howard with Glover and Belefone’ who honestly stated that he didn’t even know what she allegedly did but was "just supporting his sister".

Why can’t we (black folk) just admit when we’re wrong? I am a black attorney working in a Federal Building. I have a badge and don’t have to go through security with my badge. I see the same security guards everyday and they know me by name, but guess what???? When I don’t have my badge, I have to go through security. Inconvenience, sure but that’s their procedures so I follow them.

By the way, there are white people at my job who I have seen everyday who have changed their hair and I have failed to recognize, so why would it be unreasonable to think that when she takes out her braids and has a radically different hairstyle that a guard of a different race may not recognize her??? There are hundreds of studies that show that in many cases one race cannot differentiate people of another race on sight (that’s the problem with lineups). But I digress.

Bottomline, regardless of why she was stopped, she (as a Congressperson) should not have punch the guy. Period. There is no excuse for that.
 
Written By: Duane
URL: http://the-pitt.blogspot.com
Billy, are you really this stupid? Do you honestly believe that the American public is going to side with an arrogant politician who slugs a police officer? If so, I truly hope that you are placed into positions of responsibility within the democratic party.

It seems that every time a Republican messes up and gives the dems an opening, the dems do something just as stupid that closes that door again.

On the note of McKinney, it is garbage cries like this that make a lot of people skeptical of claims of genuine racism. Cry wolf often enough, people will not respond when there is genuine injustice.
 
Written By: Russ
URL: http://
I am not sure why I am chiming into this debacle of a debate. We have one person claiming this is a republicans-support-police issue and democrats support fair treatment of blacks issue.

WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!

This has nothing to do with race and everything to do with security protocol at our nation’s capital.

Billy claims that it is an issue of a black woman being grabbed by a cop??? PLEASE!!

That cop has a duty, and if you have never worn a uniform you have no idea what general orders are, so please shut up.

A woman passed a security checkpoint without proper lapel pin and refused to stop. I hate to bring in intelligence to this conversation, but it does not take a white person to know that if a cop tells you to stop, you stop. HELLO!!

I am a democrat. I like so many Jews support equal rights. I see in this blog that this minority woman has made disparaging remarks about Jews. I do not know if that is true, but if she did then it is SHE who is a racist. Jews are not responsible for blacks dropping out of high school, their parents are. Jews are not responsible to the jails being full of black people, black people are by breaking the law.

Lead by example I always say. Black people of America have a fine example here.
 
Written By: Louie N.
URL: http://
Does anybody believe that Martin Luther King Jr. would have been as influential as he had been had he acted like Rep. Cynthia McKinney?

—— EXACTLY ——

In the year 2006, Rep. Cynthia McKinney is a pathetic representation for black America. Cynthia is dividing this country, however its not by race but by intellect.

You have witnessed this division first hand based on Amos’ comments. I’m sure his intelligence will carry him far in life, and if it doesn’t he can always blame someone else for his lack of success.

Lets let Amos in on a little secret.
Promise not to tell anybody?

People of all nationalities have problems everyday. They could care less about your real or imaginary plight of being "walked over".

If you work hard and treat others with respect, some people MIGHT treat you with respect as well.

However, some might NOT treat you well.

A good example is last week I was at a jury trial in Bel Air, MD where two BLACK gang members robbed and killed a BLACK Man. The BLACK man was a Minister Father of Nine Kids working a second job to save money for his kids Christmas gifts.

From all accounts, the victim was a great man. How was he treated?

Lets focus on real problems.




 
Written By: LaToya J.
URL: http://
Billy,

Please get your facts straight. McKinney, in HER statement, stated that the officer did not grab her. This is her direct quote, "He approached me, bodyblocked me, physically touching me."

Basically, he got in front of her to stop her. Now do you really believe this constitutes an assault by a police officer. That is the man’s JOB! I don’t see how some people don’t get that!

So the office didn’t grab her and she (a Congresswoman) punched him in the stomach because he didn’t recognize her....and this is who you guys are defending???
 
Written By: Duane
URL: http://the-pitt.blogspot.com
(sigh) why am I so NOT surprised that even if Congresscritter McKinney was raped and beaten by the guard, somehow the haters on this group would fine reason to say "well, she probably deserved it."

1. HE is a guard, with probably lots of body armor. A man. Physically strong enough to be a cop.

2. She is a woman. She did no lasting harm to him physically, only to his masculine ego. And the egos of white males in general.

3. Y’all really need to find something else to whine about besides ’uppity’ Mexicans or Blacks.
 
Written By: Rick D.
URL: http://
Its a sad state of our country when we have to watch a unbalenced, unqualified, misfit single handedly set the blacks back another decade by her unbelievable actions. This women is unhindged.

Its time for the fair and balanced people of all colors to to demand that this crap has to and must stop.
 
Written By: Mark
URL: http://
Look, I don’t know whether he grabbed her or she hit him. I wasn’t there. And neither were any of you. My point is, the Congresswoman acted out. But what harm came to either person? None. She’s not gonna ever see jail, she is too important a person. But, she should be contrite and admit her mistake. And, the officer should accord her the respect due a member of Congress. And any talk of charges should be dropped, as it can only become a media circus and another chance for pundits to divide the American public. This doesn’t merit criminal or civil charges. It does merit both parties sharing some contrition, and apologizing.
 
Written By: Gavin Ehringer
URL: http://
I’m a lifelong Republican & White. Why is the media getting hyper about such a small incident. Could it be that the powers to be just want to get this woman out. They have tried before and were victorious. She came back and won back her seat. They must really want her out bad, if they are pushing this tiny incident so far out of proportion. Like I said, I am a conservative Republican..... but let’s move on. We have a country to run, and her voters have spoken. Media.... leave her alone. Put in perspective.... has she sexually molested young women (Clinton), has she molested employees (O’Reilly) etc... If we can forgive those two clowns.... Let’s just keep moving along.....
 
Written By: Geo Z
URL: http://
Rick, what is wrong with you! YOU are the problem thanks for showing your ignorance. Some folks will just never get it. Hey were you that guy that got picked on in gym class. Get over youself.
 
Written By: Mark
URL: http://
It’s truly sad that when a black person rises to a position of prominence that they continue to act like "ghetto trash". Why not use your position to demonstrate that not all blacks are the criminals that we see on TV every night? McKinney is one of the worst examples of a priviliged black pretending to be discriminated against so she can get the votes of the ignorant black masses who love to see a black getting "in the face" of the white man. Ignorance to the nth degree! She needs to be charged and that’s all there is to it! Will this help her get reelected? You’re darn right! Of course, she shouldn’t be but who said voters have any brains?
 
Written By: Grant Thomas
URL: http://
Gavin,
And, the officer should accord her the respect due a member of Congress.

Really and so when he did his job and asked her to stop three times, and hten moves to stop a potential unauthorized entry, he wasn’t respecting her?
And any talk of charges should be dropped, as it can only become a media circus and another chance for pundits to divide the American public.

Unlike Tom Delay or OJ, what does a media circus ahve to do with your guilt or innocence?
This doesn’t merit criminal or civil charges. It does merit both parties sharing some contrition, and apologizing.
Again Gavin, why does the cop apologize for doing his duty? Walk me thru that again, would you?

Oh and Geo Z, could it be you’e not really a life-long Republican and white, the Limbaugh phrase is, "seminar caller", "Rush I love your show and I ALWAYS vote Republican, BUT this time...." So you’re saying Da MAN planted that officer there to make Congressperson McKinney go stupid and claim sexism and racism? It IS a trivial issue, to make it "go away" all the Congressperson needs to do is say, "My bad. I made a mistake and I over-reacted. Sorry for using up everyone’s time, especially you Danny Glover." See it’s easy.
 
Written By: Joe
URL: http://
Who is making this a media circus?

If Cynthia McKinney didn’t want a circus do you think she would have Harry Belefonte (who called Bush the world’s worst terrorist) by her side?

 
Written By: Duane
URL: http://the-pitt.blogspot.com
HE is a guard, with probably lots of body armor. A man. Physically strong enough to be a cop.
HE is a police officer, not a ’guard’, doing his duty. Tell me Rick, do you have the option of ignoring a lawful order by a police officer where you live?
She is a woman. She did no lasting harm to him physically, only to his masculine ego. And the egos of white males in general.
SHE struck a police officer in the performance of his duty. Second question: do you have the option of striking police officers where you live?
Y’all really need to find something else to whine about besides ’uppity’ Mexicans or Blacks.
And this, plus your other comments, simply point to your woefully shallow understanding of any of the issues discussed here.
 
Written By: McQ
URL: http://www.qando.net/
CONGRESSWOMAN BEHAVES BADLY

Wow, what a story...

How much money did her actions cost the taxpayers?

Was anybody hurt?

Why does anybody care?

Is there any reason this is in the media other than to rally the rally the base after Tom Delays announcement.

 
Written By: cindyb
URL: http://
When are black people going to throw off the bonds of slavery and "400+ years of oppression" and just GROW UP and LIVE AS THE REST OF US DO?!? It comes down to convenience and lack of self-esteem; I cannot imagine Dr. Condoleeza Rice pulling such a stunt. It’s now 2006. Get with the program or forever keep yourself in the past, railing against "whitey" or "the man". You are an embarassment to society, but most of all you are an embarassment to the USA and the world. If you can’t get past your heritage, don’t wave it like a big red flag and make yourself look like an idiot. I am now going downstairs to burn all of my Harry Belafonte records. Didn’t he once call Colin Powell an "Oreo"? It is my recollection that Uncle Tom Belafonte joined the "white world" LONG before the esteemed Colin Powell. Do I hear the strains of "We Shall Overcome" in the background? Quit singin’ and get to work "overcoming"! Please! Now go away. Let the arrest warrants for the "congresswoman" proceed. Let’s see her in court. That’s where the rest of us would be in this situation. Being white, I would only have the defense of "stupidity" to call my own.
 
Written By: Scott
URL: http://
Hey Joe...

I am a lifelong Republican (since Nixon)... and white. And I still am going to defend this congresswoman from Georgia. The people put her in power, and the media & limbaughists like you are going to abide by our Constitution. Is that how you do business.. If you don’t agree with something that I say, you call me a liar..... and question everything that I post. Pretty small of you. GeoZ
 
Written By: Geo Z
URL: http://
EXCEPT CindyB this occurred BEFORE Delay’s announcement or is Cynthia McKinney in on "IT" with K Rove. You know, "Cynthia this is Karl. I need you to do something stupid on Tuesday, hold a large press conference on Wednesday, preferably with Harry Belafonte and Danny Glover where you compound your silliness, because Thursday Tom Delay is resigning." is everything a conspiracy or spin to you guys?
 
Written By: Joe
URL: http://
But GeoZ you never actually addressed my question and points. Why is Da Man out to "get her?" And how did they ever get her to cooperate with Da Man by getting her to punch a police man, mind control rays? And again, I say it can all go away and we can move on, all she has to do is say, "My bad." It ain’t the Rightwing Media fueling this, it’s Congressperson McKinney... and as I and others have stated, she knows what she’s doing. She WANTS this, free PR and a chance to soldify HER base in an election year.
 
Written By: Joe
URL: http://
Hey Joe,

Why bring drugs, crack, mind control rays, Right Wing Media and all other buzz words into this??

Why all the accusations? I do not do drugs and I don’t believe in mind control waves, and I said media (not right-wing media)...

I still think this issue small potato...

I do agree with you on one thing, and one thing only. She should probably appologize for striking the man. And while were at it, why not a kind word from the officer... then we could move on.

And by the way?? How do we know who you are???
I was only stating that I was white and a conservative Republican because it is true.
You’ll have to live with your parnoia about my race and political persuation. But let me make one thing perfectly clear..... I’m comfortable with my honesty. GeoZ
 
Written By: Geo Z
URL: http://
I seriously doubt that the people here who are supporting CM would be saying the same thing if it was a Republican (of any color) who had struck a police office. This isn’t political issue. CM was wrong. She should have admitted it, but instead she played the race card and it’s an embarrassment for everyone. This whole scene is pathetic and disgusting.

Because of her actions, I have decided I will donate money to who ever opposes her in the next election and I don’t even live in her state.
 
Written By: Monica
URL: http://
Hey Joe & Everyone Else....

It’s been a pleasure. But I have to run...
Let me leave you with one final thought...

The people from her district put her in office. Until THEY decide that she is ’bogus’, she is still the real article.

Even though my feelings are with the Republican Party. I find her a bit refreshing. She really does speak her mind quite freely on many issues. And that is what America is all about.


Take Care & Have A Good One....
GeoZ (Wisconsin)
 
Written By: Geo Z
URL: http://
LET ME RETORT

1. HE is a guard, with probably lots of body armor. A man. Physically strong enough to be a cop.
CORRECT

2. She is a woman.( MAYBE )She did no lasting harm to him physically, only to his masculine ego. And the egos of white males in general.

Let me guess...your not white or male...Could tell by the racist/sexist undertone..SHE HIT A COP, WHAT ISNT TO UNDERSTAND. If you dont understand, go try it...walk outside and slug one...See what happens? Her RACE/SEX/CREED is not on trial. If it were we would have hung her..(NO THAT WASNT A BLACK JOKE FOR THE OVERLY SENSITIVE)
What IS on trial is that she is arrogant anti semitist LAW BREAKER. Go to your county courthouse and walk by the security and ignore their request for you to stop.. I DARE YOU...when they tazer you, pull the race card. Hopefully they will use lethal force and clean the gene pool by a fraction..Thanks for being ignorant!

3. Y’all really need to find something else to whine about besides ’uppity’ Mexicans or Blacks.
We have..its YOU! :)
 
Written By: Jonathan
URL: WWW.firemckinney.com
This has been great. A real tinfoil detection system in operation.

Now I know for certain that I can skip over anything that Cindy Bee and Rickie Dee say from now on.

And to GeoZ, remember that great line Ed Harris had in the movie, "A history of violence"? To paraphrase: "I see you trying to be this other person, and it’s painful to watch".


 
Written By: capt joe
URL: http://
I am sure that there have to be some set of rules regarding what security is allowed and expected to do. I am sure that there have to be some set of rules regarding what members of congress are allowed and expected to do.

Someone, somewhere, has to have enough knowledge of these rules as to say whether each person involved acted within the rules or not, given the circumstances.

Why they did it? Ah... that is a mystery. But it shouldn’t be too hard to figure out who is in the right and who is in the wrong.
 
Written By: disinterested observer
URL: http://
TC: http://lawnrangers.blogspot.com/2006/04/dignan-v-cynthia-mckinney.html
 
Written By: Chris
URL: http://
TC in Atlanta -

If what you say is true about not being able to campaign against CM in her district because it would be dangerous - well, that’s just terrible and it should be exposed to the entire nation.
 
Written By: Monica
URL: http://
The comments are lovely...

Race-baiters defending the Race-baiter.

The woman is a walking ’public service’... in idiot identification.
 
Written By: DANEgerus
URL: http://www.danegerus.com/weblog/
Maybe it’s because I didn’t get any sleep last night, but reading threads like these just makes me want to "give up".

Jon, Dale and McQ, how can you stand reading up on subjects like these and comment day after day without becoming overwhelmed by the tide of ignorance, obstruction and deception?

I’m starting to think it’s not worth it. Just let "them" win all these debates so Western Civ. can collapse and we can get through the second Dark Ages and reach Renaissance II that much sooner.
 
Written By: Fyro
URL: http://
The sad part in all this, is not what is going to happen to McKinney (who cares - she is wrong), but
that the cop will suffer in one way or another
even if a court decides that he was right.
"Big" politicians always get their way to f**** up
regular people.

What she did is not an isolated case, just a well publicized one.
 
Written By: BG
URL: http://
"And Billy what backlash is the GOP going to suffer from a group that votes 90% Democrat to begin with? You’re going to vote 110% Democratic this time, 215% Democratic this time?"

Maybe in Memphis . . .
 
Written By: Sean
URL: http://www.myelectionanalysis.com
Sigh...

I vote Democratic, usually, but that assumes that the candidate is worth my support. This Representative, thru this demonstration of immaturity and lack of basic human relations skills, truly has been an embarassment to those who would have liked to be able to support her.

And now, I don’t trust her judgement.

I, for one, will help pay to find and elect a better Democratic representative for the district.




 
Written By: Denver
URL: http://
Fyro,
Couple points,
Jon, Dale and McQ, how can you stand reading up on subjects like these and comment day after day without becoming overwhelmed by the tide of ignorance, obstruction and deception?
‘Cause they like it. ;)
I’m starting to think it’s not worth it. Just let "them" win all these debates so Western Civ. can collapse and we can get through the second Dark Ages and reach Renaissance II that much sooner.
Funny, I had the same thought regarding the Tom DeLays, Rick Santorums, Bill Frists, and other Christian Righties of the world.
=======================
HE is a police officer, not a ’guard’, doing his duty. Tell me Rick, do you have the option of ignoring a lawful order by a police officer where you live?
McQ,
Funny story,
I was walking down the city streets of OKC back in 1992 on my way to a pub and I was carrying a beer in my hand (legal at the time in Oklahoma). I was grabbed from behind by a then unknown person. Not knowing what was happening, I turned around and clocked him breaking his nose.
Turns out, he was a security officer hired by the nightclub I was walking past. Apparently, the nightclub had a policy about drinking in front of their establishment. A policy I was obviously unaware of.
Yadayadayada, his security buddies grabbed me, the police were called, and I spent the night in the Oklahoma County Bed and Breakfast. Not good…., the eggs were dry.

I don’t like CM anymore than most here, but when I first heard this story, and obviously not knowing the full story, I felt some empathy for her.

And McQ, I was fully prepared after returning from the field to give you the what for regarding the lack of attention to the Tom DeLay story. But obviously, Cynthia McKinney is the hot topic.

Cheers.
P.S. Don’t go to OKC.
 
Written By: PogueMahone
URL: http://
Its a sad state of our country when we have to watch a unbalenced, unqualified, misfit single handedly set the blacks back another decade by her unbelievable actions. This women is unhindged.
I seriously doubt that McKinney’s actions set anything back even minutes. What may influence is when folks spout off race-baiting rhetoric similar to Amos’ (first comment this thread). Rational people recognize CM for what she is, and roll their eyes in a "here we go again" moment. But when others come to her defense, illogical rhetoric and all, rational folks may very well question the sanity of a party that not only commands CM defenders allegiance, but most likely feeds them their talking points.

 
Written By: bains
URL: http://
Inspired by Geo Z...

I’m a vegan Spanish transexual Muslim female who slashes GOP GOTVote van tires and I think CongressWomyn McKinney clearly wrong.

 
Written By: bains
URL: http://
McKinney is just a uppity n*gra and you liberals who act so indignant are hypocrites. You don’t hang in the ghetto and don’t know squat. Your posts are boring at best. In this terrorist age, all folks have to listen to the police. End of story!
 
Written By: White boy
URL: http://
I seriously doubt that McKinney’s actions set anything back even minutes

Indeed. But what it really does is stop any hope of advancement. Black people in this country who elect and follow fools like her do more damage to the overall state of blacks in America than any racist group could ever do.

As an American, I want to see all segments of the population healthy and vibrant, it makes us stronger. As a working man, I don’t care how deep some segments of the population sink into the mire, more opportunities for people with the right mindset *of all races* to advance, to succeed, to live a good life.

And I’m sure those who would vote to re-elect her won’t be among them.
 
Written By: shark
URL: http://
This thread confirms it for me yet again:

The vast majority of Black people will unite and standby another black person regardless of culpability. Very seldom in these type of situations is personal accountability able to nudge aside the mantra- "I’m a victim". Instead of distancing themselves from the likes of Cynthia McKinney and her filthy history, the leaders of the black community rally around her and other criminals in the delusion of brotherhood. Honor and integrity are stuffed in the left pocket. While out of the right pocket comes the omnipotent race card.

To those who wonder why such a big deal is being made of this incident:

My hope is that maybe the population is finally becoming indignant of the double-standard. People like Cynthia McKinney are not looking for an even playing field. They want a clear cut upper hand and preferential treatment. If other people are not intimidated or sympathetic enough to give it to them, then they must be racists. If you are not willing to overlook unmitigated hatred and disrespect, then you simply are not a "tolerant" person. Failue to apologize for being white either through gesture or voice is a symptom of a redneck. Personally, it is no longer of any consequence to me if I am labeled a racist. The term has become threadbare.

So, instead of bridging the racial divide, we have only become more polarized. All-to-frequent incidents like this where an element of racial wrongdoing is fabricated in the effort to avoid the consequences of an unwise decision only serve to widen that gap. There is never going to be any progress on the racial issues that this country is confronted with until each side realizes that racism is not a unilateral offense perpetrated uniquely by whites. Moreover, the message of unqualified support has to be supplanted with a demand for personal accountability.

I’m not holding my breath.

 
Written By: James
URL: http://
steve I to am a Vietnam vet ( 100% disabled hit in the neck as well as stomach) who served as a Ranger and you my fine buddy are an embarrisment to this country with your logic. By the way don’t forget the military definition of a "BUDDY"
 
Written By: Hamilton
URL: http://k9-protection.net
Pogue,

Whereas you hit a security guard, she hit a police officer. What do you think would have happened if the guy you hit was a cop? More than a night is jail I think.

Personally I think she was trolling for this exact consequence. Hoping to have her little Al Sharpton moment in the sun. I think the whole thing is one of those clarifying moments where you learn an awful lot about someone when they agree with her.

And when you say you felt sorry for her, well, I think we all learned something in that or at least had it confirmed. ;)
 
Written By: capt joe
URL: http://
I was grabbed from behind by a then unknown person. Not knowing what was happening, I turned around and clocked him breaking his nose.
Gee Pogue, you’re such a ruffian.

I even have a modicum of sympathy for you on this one.

However I’d have little to no sympathy for you had you told me the security guard was a police officer and said officer had asked you to stop three times before confronting you.

That’s where I am with McKinney.
 
Written By: McQ
URL: http://www.qando.net/
Pogue — I’d have even less if you’d also indicated you were in a protected area and not, say, a public street.
 
Written By: Achillea
URL: http://quantum-sky.net
I’d have even less if you’d also indicated you were in a protected area and not, say, a public street.
A high security protected area.
 
Written By: McQ
URL: http://www.qando.net/
I assume Q and O tracks this kind of thing, but what is the record for comments on a single post? (I am thinking about making this same comment 12 more times in order to drive the comments to the "100" mark.)

This whole debate is a joke; on both sides. Everyone should rent a few Dave Chappelle DVD’s and take some time off to watch them.

 
Written By: mkultra
URL: http://
Does anybody believe that Martin Luther King Jr. would have been as influential as he had been had he acted like Rep. Cynthia McKinney?

—— EXACTLY ——

In the year 2006, Rep. Cynthia McKinney is a pathetic representation for black America. Cynthia is dividing this country, however its not by race but by intellect.

You have witnessed this division first hand based on Amos’ comments. I’m sure his intelligence will carry him far in life, and if it doesn’t he can always blame someone else for his lack of success.

Lets let Amos in on a little secret.
Promise not to tell anybody?

People of all nationalities have problems everyday. They could care less about your real or imaginary plight of being "walked over".

If you work hard and treat others with respect, some people MIGHT treat you with respect as well.

However, some might NOT treat you well.

A good example is last week I was at a jury trial in Bel Air, MD where two BLACK gang members robbed and killed a BLACK Man. The BLACK man was a Minister Father of Nine Kids working a second job to save money for his kids Christmas gifts.

From all accounts, the victim was a great man. How was he treated?

Lets focus on real problems.




 
Written By: LaToya J.
URL: http://
I assume Q and O tracks this kind of thing, but what is the record for comments on a single post?
We don’t have any way of tracking it beyond simply looking at the same comment # you can see. I think we’ve had a few threads that eventually approached 150+ comments.
 
Written By: Jon Henke
URL: http://www.QandO.net
CM’s defenders propose a dubious equation:

Cynthia McKinney’s actions = the officer’s actions, so both must apologize.

This equation bears an uncanny similarity to the progressive’s equivocating narratives about the Isreali/Palestinian "cycle of violence" issue, and Islamist terrorism. To the McKinney wing of the Democratic Party, Islamist terrorists are "victims’ of Isreali "occupation" and American ’hegemony," and just need to be apologized to.

CM hasn’t blamed the Jews for her predicament yet, but maybe Belafonte will do so in a press-conference soon. Anything to help a "sister."
-Steve
 
Written By: Steve
URL: http://
As I watch all the Mckinney coverage I wonder if I could memorize the faces and names of 435 congressmen and women. I bet even Mckinney herself, after 11 years in Congress would have trouble. Her arrogance is disgusting. She sounds like a f*ck*ng actress that didn’t get the right color M&Ms in her dressing room. F*ck her!
 
Written By: Ernest
URL: http://
Duane thanks for the well reasoned post. This issue is much ado about arrogance and not much more.
 
Written By: steve
URL: http://www.sammcgees.com
The reason this strikes a chord is that when Black folks run out of cards in the deck, things do not go their way, they can always pull out the wildcard that many have saved. That wildcard is the one that says racism is the problem. I.E. the white racist cop pulled me over and gave me a ticket, never mind I was doing 80 in 50 zone. The boss hired someone else and not me cause he was racist, never mind the other candidate was better educated. No one would have a problem if some people would take responsiblity and stop blaming everything on those "Racist" white folks.

Remember Ja Ja Gabor had to go to court for hitting a California police officer. No one gets a free ride for hitting a cop.
 
Written By: MGar
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We live in a society today where there is a sort of backlash from the children and grandchildren of those in our country who resented the Civil Rights movement only 39 years ago. After that movement, there needed to be monitors in the black community making sure that the rights granted remained civil and legally challenged as needed. However, some of those who needed to be there after Martin Luther King, Jr. fell asleep and got lazy making it hard for the black American children and grandchildren growing up after this movement. This whole "race card’and "baiter" comment is simply yet another term used against any black American who challenges those rights that are to be held as civil, allowed, and honored. We live in the best country in the world. Our Constitution is awesome! Yet now it is time to have it matched up with our situations because we have and can be included today. I am a bit concerned that we still have black Americans fighting for our country against a foreign enemy. Yet, in our country we are continually stopped, checked, and overchecked to our humiliation with the excuse that we black Americans MIGHT BE 911 terrorists. The reigns were already tightened up against us only these 39 years ago which I mentioned prior.Since 911, too many Americans who just happen to be white, have worked to justify their hatred by covertly seeing Americans who fight for our own country as terrorists. This is wrong. And when we challenge your labeling towards those of us who are Americans, you call us baiters and race card pullers. These are simply new popular terms used against African Americans as red herrings to the reality that, to you, it is an embarrassment to have a black woman congressman in good ole’ Georgia. It is an embarrassment because you still hate in your hearts and do not like black Americans. This is true whether we fight for our country or not isn’t it? Because of protocol, Cynthia should not have hit this police officer. However, was he feeling her innapropriately baiting her to respond in a way that was expected? Was stopping her planned? Believe me, I know these Congressman would never back her up. Why? Because it is a heart issue that may never be exposed completely until God himself intervenes. But in the meantime, black Americans need to be able to be harmed first by those in charge based on protocol. But we also need not be victims. We need to take all of the funds we have and put it back into the legal system to legally challenge the hateful actions, the singleing out, and the innappropriate behaviors that some Americans practice simply because in their true hearts is hate and anger. Cynthia is not a clown. She is a successful woman in Congress who speaks for issues that she believes in. This is rare in that field since most others are not sincere. That reality is true amongst both Republicans and Democrats. However, it is pop culture to make Cynthia into a clown because some in American society do not want to see her as equal in any way, shape, or form.
 
Written By: timmany
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I wish many of you could see the security video. You would then see why they were questioning an arrest warrant. She assaulted the officer for doing his job. She also seems poised to eradicate the value of the term ‘racism’.

Favorite quote from my friends in New Orleans
“I’m wet because I’m black!”
 
Written By: John
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Timmany,

You make a lot of good points, about history and labeling. HOWEVER, all of those comments are besides the point in this case.

Cynthia McKinney, is NOT representing black people in a positive light in this case. I think race should be brought up when it is apparent and appropriate. But when we bring it up in a context where WE were wrong, it makes real racism seem made up as well.

"Crying Wolf" is the term. If we "cry wolf" all the time, noone will listen when racism really happens. That’s Cynthia McKinney’s problem. She cries wolf all the time. Everything is racist.

Let’s break this down to the facts (not speculation).

1) Congresspeople do not have to go through security, but they do have to pass by security (for facial or other ID).
2) Congresspeople have to wear a pin showing that they are members of Congress, which she admittedly was not wearing.
3) There are 535 members of Congress (House and Senate)that change every two years.
4) Cynthia McKinney admittedly had a new hairstyle (braids to a curly afro) which included a new hair color (reddish)and unadmittedly has gained weight (my observation).
5. The guard asked her to stop several times (corroborated by several witnesses on the spot).
6. She ignored the guard at which point he bodyblock her (according to her own statement).
7. She hit him in the stomach with a cell phone in her hand (guard’s version) or pushed him away (CM’s version).

Those are the facts. I have heard too many people talking about CM getting grabbed inappropriately or felt up. Those ARE NOT the facts. CM has herself stated what happened and it did include any of that.

Bottom line, she wasn’t recognized was stopped and overreacted and instead of apologizing has used this as a soap box to proselytize her political views.
 
Written By: Duane
URL: http://the-pitt.blogspot.com
By the way, Zsa Zsa Gabor got 1 night in jail and 120 hours for striking a Beverly Hills police officer. No one gets a free ride for hitting a cop. She was about 71 years old at the time.

Black folks have to realize that among their members are people who are racist. Nation of Islam, Jesse Jackson who says New York is a Haime town. In Mexico and Mexican American communities. Many bad and hateful people are non-white. Sometimes we are our own worst enemy.
 
Written By: MGar
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What’s this?

"In case you’re not clear about just how bigoted and unkind McKinney is, check out this video."

I watched the video. McKinney was smiling and friendly to the policeman and told him she was not offended. There is NO EVIDENCE of bigotry or unkindness in the video clip, whatsoever.
 
Written By: Chanda
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I’ve given this a great deal of thought, probably more than it deserves as it is relatively a small issue. That said, I have a few observations.

First, to Chanda, I don’t find Ms. McKinney’s response bigoted or unkind...but I do find it sadly pre-judging. She was approaching the guard shack with an unfamiliar man and cameras, and it is reasonable to think that the guard was far more centered on those two unusual things than on the fact that they were black people. For all we know, he may be myopic.

Second, though this is a smallish issue, it has been a topic of discussion at my workplace. (Note: I work in a city and workplace where I am in the minority as a white woman.) I have found only one other person willing to even entertain the idea that Ms. McKinney might have overreacted (a coworker who, like me, used to live in Atlanta). Just as some white people are blind to real racial injustice, my coworkers seem to be blinded by those same racial blinders, only in reverse.

I can’t help but feel that the main problem between the races in the U.S. is that each side of the issue remains blinded by different things...but blind is blind. Anger, rightfully gained but then passed on to future generations instead of directed at healing past wrongs, is robbing us all of any chance of getting along.

Just so you know, not all of us in the South have ancestors who owned slaves. Mine were sharecroppers. Nobody in my direct line of descendents has a red cent built on anyone’s back but their own. That said, I do see racial injustice and try to thwart it when I can without getting harmed (I’m a Mom with responsibilities to stay alive for). I do understand somewhat (enough to know I can’t fully understand) how many black people just get fed up. But it is so offensive to see a real, worthy cause cheapened by people who tie it in with honest to goodness plain old screw-ups. Such petty crap adds to the numbness that has overtaken many whites, and that can not be good.
 
Written By: Dayna
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Dayna, what did McKinney pre-judge? For whatever reason he approached her, he didn’t recognize her. She told him, basically, "I’m not offended, it happens all the time." I see no unkindness, bigotry OR prejudging.
 
Written By: Chanda
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"That’s just the typical kind of treatment that I receive. It’s typical, so I’m not surprised and I’m not offended. [...] Some things never change. That’s what Tupac said."

Perhaps this is a good example of where you are coming from coloring what you see in front of you. That statement says to me, basically, that she expects to be harassed, to be treated like she doesn’t belong. Which may well be due to real things that have happened.

But my point is that perhaps it was not a typical situation. What you don’t see on the video is:

(a) Could the guard see her clearly past the camera?
(b) Did the guard see the man (who he was not supposed to recognize) and not her?
(c) Did she recognize him? We don’t know.

I make no excuses for clear-cut cases of racism and harassment. But this is not clear here. The man, for whatever reason, did not recognize her. Maybe he had good reason, maybe not.

I can’t emphasize enough...I do not take sides on this particular incident. I can’t, because there is just not enough evidence to draw a reliable conclusion.

It just seems she is more than willing to always assume the worst. I understand a little of what would make her that way, but it seems a sad, sad way to live.
 
Written By: Dayna
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"This whole "race card’and "baiter" comment is simply yet another term used against any black American who challenges those rights that are to be held as civil, allowed, and honored."
This type of perception simply has reality reversed. Where is the logic in such a statement? I have not noticed one entry in this thread that suggests, or even hints, that all claims of racism by black people are without merit. I would venture to say that if a person did offer such ignorance, their credibility with 99 out of 100 readers would be instantly shot. I’m too lazy to go back and read all of the entries. Yet, I don’t care if I’m wrong and there is such an entry. It would just prove my point that such garbage would be immediately dismissed. However, in contrast, there seems to be many black people who are willing to abandon propriety for the sake of racial alliance. There is absolutely no reasonable defense for McKinney’s offensive behavior. This is why she resorted to the race card. That you and other black people are willing to support her milking and abusing your "civil, allowed, and honored" rights is a damn shame.
"I am a bit concerned that we still have black Americans fighting for our country against a foreign enemy. Yet, in our country we are continually stopped, checked, and overchecked to our humiliation with the excuse that we black Americans MIGHT BE 911 terrorists."
It is still a voluntary military isn’t it?
Is there a legitimate and unbiased survey out there that confirms that black people are stopped more frequently than white people during security checks? Or, are you simply parroting Farrakhan and McKinney? Because it occurs to me that everytime I board a plane or enter a Federal building, everybody except the officials gets scanned. Perhaps I should complain when I am escorted to the side for further inspection. Surely it is because I have a dark mustache as many Arabics do and not because I had a lighter in my pocket.
"These are simply new popular terms used against African Americans as red herrings to the reality that, to you, it is an embarrassment to have a black woman congressman in good ole’ Georgia."
A person does not have to be black or a disciple of Gandhi to want Black America to be more successful. I’m not a economist but, I can clearly see that this country would be vastly better off if the level of education and standard of living were raised for black people as a whole. I cannot believe that the majority of white people disfavor educated and successful black people. It simply does not make sense. Cynthia McKinney is not resented by white people because she has a college degree or because she has encroached upon a white domain. She is despised by the majority of white people and a minority of black people because she is herself an unmitigated racist who promotes racial tension by fabricating injustice.
"It is an embarrassment because you still hate in your hearts and do not like black Americans. This is true whether we fight for our country or not isn’t it?"
I’m sure that there isn’t anything that anybody can say to you that would make you stop and ponder whether if it is wise to pass this fallacy along to your children. But, I’m going to say it anyway. Just like racism, you talk about hatred as if white people are the only group that harbors the emotion. Do you actually think that white people are so self-satisfied and enamored of themselves that they don’t sense the hatred that many, many, many black people so unabashedly project? Not this cat. When I get on a crowded public bus in which I am maybe one of three white persons, the glaring hatred from people that don’t know me from a can of paint is as prevalent as fries with a burger. Count the number of neighborhoods in this country in which it is unsafe for a white person to venture into and then compare that number to the amount of neighborhoods in which a black person is ill-advised. I’d bet the house that the latter pales in comparison. Why? Because hatred for white people permeates black society. Black people complain about being prejudged yet, for most the challenge of giving a white person the benefit of the doubt is insurmountable.
"Because of protocol, Cynthia should not have hit this police officer. However, was he feeling her innapropriately baiting her to respond in a way that was expected? Was stopping her planned?"
Oh please!!! Don’t you realize that the Grassy Knoll, as the venue, would have been essential to such a plan?

 
Written By: James
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Let me just say that I am white. I never knew what racism was about until I moved to the south.

"Ignorance Breeds Ignorance"

Hatred is bound to all races because we are different. We need to stop raising our children with this hatred that has been passed down.

I used to get beat up in school for being white & being from up north. Over $hit that I, nor my ancestors, had anything to do with. Over a war that was won by the north close to 300 years ago.

I guess I deserved getting beat up because I was white & from the north, huh?

What does this have to do with the issue at hand? racism is racism ....PERIOD. What CM did was wrong. It has nothing to do with a white security cop being a racist, he was doing what he was ordered to do in a highly secured area. She should have thanked the police officer for performing is duty. Instead, because she was late for a meeting, had pms, or other issues, she hits the cop & then cries racisim? Come on & give me a f’ing break here. If the cop, supposedly, grabbing her in appropiately by some reports....wouldn’t sexual harrassment be added to the claim?

Everyone needs to wake up & smell the coffee. Black, White, Male, Female, christian, Jewish, Atheist........what ever.....to the fact that she acted inappropriately to a cop doing his sworn duty. PLAIN & SIMPLE even for the morons out there.

BK





 
Written By: BK
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Let me just say that I am white. I never knew what racism was about until I moved to the south.
Then you led a very sheltered life.
 
Written By: McQ
URL: http://www.qando.net/
McQ. Very Patronizing. Maybe BK had smart parents who moved into nice neighborhoods.

CM may still go to court, but, this inflexibly moral person did what any other politician does when they leave themselves out on a limb. She backtracked. She may a half ass appology.

Talk about being naive and sheltered,it takes lots of money to run for political office. Unless CM is really wealthy and pays for everything, she problably has had to do a lot of compromising of her "principles" to get the money to run. Always be wary of politicians.

 
Written By: MGar
URL: http://
McQ,

No not sheltered you idiot. we had black families were I lived up north, & we had no racial issues...in essence...we all got along. What I encountered moving to the south, I could not understand as we did not have these issues where I lived up north.

All you do is pick a certain line in the whole messege and criticize it. Why don’t you grow the F**K up.

What if the guard was black? What would her F**king excuse be then? That the guard was "acting" white??
The moral of the previous story ..RACE HAD NOTHING TO DO UNTIL SHE DRAGGED THAT $HIT IN! If you ask me, it was "reverse racism" as she tried blaming the issue on the cop’s color of his skin. And if you never worked for the military or in a highly secured area, then you really don’t know jack $hit. I have seen generals stopped at a security check point & turned around, even if guards new him, because he did not have proper ID. It is not like in the movies. If he let that commander through, that guard would be serving the rest of his career in an outpost in Alaska somewhere, maybe even discharged. The Cop did his job, & all she wanted to do was make a "drama queen" scene. Again...Plain & Simple for the morons.

BK
 
Written By: BK
URL: http://
No not sheltered you idiot. we had black families were I lived up north, & we had no racial issues...
Riiiiight.

Read what a man named Hosea Williams had to say about the North and racisim sometime.

In case you’re not familiar with Mr. Williams, he was one of Martin Luther King Jr’s lieutenants. He found exactly the opposite of what you claim.

For some reason I find him much more credible than you.
 
Written By: McQ
URL: http://www.qando.net/
McQ.
Very patronizing toward BK. You quoate from a man who who was born in 1926. The man experienced a lynch mob! I would bet next years paycheck that the experience of someone born within the last 3 decades or less is going to be different then that of Mr. Williams, even if Mr. Williams walked with Martin, or Jesus, or Mohammid .....

Therefore, as an intellegent person, you should except BK’s experience. Tally it, do statistcal analysis, talk to others. Most of all, filter some of that stuff you read through the gray matter between your ears. Think for yourself sometimes.

 
Written By: MGar
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Very patronizing toward BK. You quoate from a man who who was born in 1926. The man experienced a lynch mob! I would bet next years paycheck that the experience of someone born within the last 3 decades or less is going to be different then that of Mr. Williams, even if Mr. Williams walked with Martin, or Jesus, or Mohammid .....


MGar, you really can’t be this stupid.

Try again, ok? A black man born in 1926 would certainly be aware of what constituted racism and what doesn’t wouldn’t you say? Not to mention the fact that he saw the transition that took place both in the south and the north when the Civil Right’s act, for which he fought, was passed.

So, why wouldn’t I find more valid than your drivel, the thoughts of a man who has seen racism at its worst and found more than enough of it in the North that he considered it worse than that found in the South?

You can hide your silly head in the sand all you wish, along with the rest of the deniers, but it doesn’t change the reality Hosea Williams experiened.
 
Written By: McQ
URL: http://www.qando.net/
McQ. Williams has been dead 6 years now. Times have changed since the time of his birth. Williams experience should be viewed as a historical document.

BK’s experience is going to be different than Williams experience. Her experience was just that, her experience. No debate.

Your approach is inflexible and dogmatic. You even seem hateful. Taking a position is good. Taking an unvarying inflexible position is bad, because, in your case, it prevents learning. You already know it all.
 
Written By: MGar
URL: http://
McQ. Williams has been dead 6 years now. Times have changed since the time of his birth. Williams experience should be viewed as a historical document.
Good grief, you are a complete and utter fool.

The culture that Williams observed while in the North hasn’t changed in 6 years you idiot.

I notice that your entire comback has been to attack me and then attack Williams. You’ve never once addressed his observations. You’ve simply denied their veracity.

Well I’m sorry, he has much more credibility than you do and until you can come up with something more convincing that "Williams is dead" you might consider flapping off to infest some other blog.
 
Written By: McQ
URL: http://www.qando.net/
McQ. Seems like you have a short memory. Remember Williams was born before the great depression. His perspective should be seen as a history lesson. Your response proves what I said about you before. You are rigid and hateful. An interchange with you makes me feel the same as if I were sending messages to David Duke or Lester Maddox. Enjoy your hate and have a wonderful life. Adios!
 
Written By: MGar
URL: http://
McQ. Seems like you have a short memory. Remember Williams was born before the great depression. His perspective should be seen as a history lesson. Your response proves what I said about you before. You are rigid and hateful. An interchange with you makes me feel the same as if I were sending messages to David Duke or Lester Maddox. Enjoy your hate and have a wonderful life. Adios!
If I’m "rigid and hateful" you’re just dumber than a box of rocks.

And you know zip about the Civil Rights movement or Hosea Williams as is evident to anyone who does.

Enjoy your blissful ignorance.
 
Written By: McQ
URL: http://www.qando.net/
McQ, I thought maybe I’d let you wallow along but I just realized you are a child. Maybe you should show mom and dad the kind of stuff you put out on the net. Type this whole blog out and show them. Next, you better erase the history on your computer so they will not take your computer away. Those adult sites just do not go over big with parents.
 
Written By: MGar
URL: http://
The Bigger Picture Here, might be that you all are missing something, like for instance, what was McKinney doing taking someone with cameras into where she works after everyone is gone and not carrying a badge that she has always carried before and KNOWS she needs? Could you please consider that maybe, the whole deal was a set up? Maybe she wanted what happened to happen, for the results... More limelight, more racial, radical back up?...wonder this, why does a congressperson need the black panthers to back her instead of her own security? I am thinking that she accomplished just what she wanted....

 
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