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Laws? We don’t need no stinkin’ laws!
Posted by: McQ on Saturday, April 08, 2006

Sometimes I think San Francisco should just declare itself a separate country (city state?) and secede:
Mayor Gavin Newsom said Thursday that The City will not comply with any federal legislation that criminalizes efforts to help illegal immigrants.

The mayor also denounced a bipartisan congressional proposal that would beef up border security and allow as many as 12 million illegal immigrants to gain legal status.

Newsom, who has not been afraid to wade into controversial national issues such as gay marriage, appeared with a group of elected officials on the steps of City Hall to support immigrants, “documented as well as undocumented.”Newsom also signed a resolution sponsored by Supervisor Gerardo Sandoval, and passed unanimously by the Board of Supervisors, urging San Francisco law enforcement not to comply with criminal provisions of any new immigration bill.

“San Francisco stands foursquare in strong opposition to the rhetoric coming out of Washington, D.C.,” Newsom said. “If people think we were defiant on the gay marriage issue, they haven’t seen defiance.”
There's a place for principled objection and even principled civil disobedience. But the wholesale rejection of something before it even becomes law?

Speaking of laws, my guess is the law of unintended consequences will catch up with Newsom and the Board of Supervisors. What do I mean by that? Well, a new study has declared San Francisco may be the "gayest city" in world. If I had to guess, I'd guess that is because of the climate for gay created by Newsom and the Board, and their defiant stand on gay marriage, etc (I bring this up because Newsom brought it up). Thus gays have flocked to SF:
New statistics suggest San Francisco has the highest percentage of gay men among major cities in the world, with a quarter of them HIV-positive, a top city health official said on Friday.
With their new "defiant" stand, any guess who else is now going to flock to the area? ICE should have a "target rich" environment in the Bay area.
 
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Well, a new study has declared San Francisco may be the "gayest city" in world. If I had to guess, I’d guess that is because of the climate for gay created by Newsom and the Board, and their defiant stand on gay marriage, etc (I bring this up because Newsom brought it up).
You believe that the “climate for gay” (?!?) was created by Newsome and the Board???
Isn’t it more plausible that the “climate for gay” preexisted Newsome and the Board and that the “gayest city in the world” created Newsome and the Board? Maybe that’s not that bad…
From your study,
The survey indicates that the overall percentage of those living with HIV has dropped since the last study five years ago.
"The major changes since 2001 are that, first of all, the gay community has grown. It’s largely been an influx of more HIV-negative gay men that are here," he said. "It used to be near 30 percent.
Maybe this “climate for gay” is a good thing. Maybe being defiant on gay marriage has invited stable same sex couples to live and work in a “climate for gay”.
At 40 percent, Baltimore has the highest percentage of HIV-positive men among its population in a study of five cities, with San Francisco second, according to a 2005 Centers for Disease Control and Prevention study.
Maybe Baltimore should be defiant. Maybe Baltimore should offer a “climate for gay”.
Mayor Gavin Newsom said Thursday that The City will not comply with any federal legislation that criminalizes efforts to help illegal immigrants.
Wow. Embracing homosexuals and the Catholic Church. This Newsome guy must be a right assh*le, huh?
There’s a place of principled objection and even principled civil disobedience. But the wholesale rejection of something before it even becomes law?
Actually, the wholesale rejection of something before it becomes law is the perfect time for principled civil disobedience. It tells your representatives that if they pass this law, there will be problems.

San Francisco. Enemy number one.
 
Written By: PogueMahone
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You believe that the “climate for gay” (?!?) was created by Newsome and the Board???
Created? No. Enabled? Yes, it obviously has.
Maybe this “climate for gay” is a good thing. Maybe being defiant on gay marriage has invited stable same sex couples to live and work in a “climate for gay”.
OK. So that really isn’t my point, Pogue.

Feel better?
Wow. Embracing homosexuals and the Catholic Church. This Newsome guy must be a right assh*le, huh?
If you say so. My point was that there are going to be some unintended consequences with the stand he and the board have taken. I’m wondering if they’re really prepared to live with them.
Actually, the wholesale rejection of something before it becomes law is the perfect time for principled civil disobedience. It tells your representatives that if they pass this law, there will be problems.
Really? So absent the law, what is he taking a defiant stand against?

It’ll be interesting to see how badly you can misread these replies given your take on the post.
 
Written By: McQ
URL: http://www.qando.net/
It’ll be interesting to see 40-60 years down the line. What will the birth rate be like? Will Frisco still have enough population to be considered a major city?
 
Written By: SaveFarris
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so this site hates gay people on top of being a fan of Ann Coulter? great, real refreshing. sigh.
 
Written By: Chris
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so this site hates gay people on top of being a fan of Ann Coulter? great, real refreshing. sigh.
Chris, it’s already established you’re an idiot. Don’t keep reinforcing the point.
 
Written By: McQ
URL: http://www.qando.net/
Really? So absent the law, what is he taking a defiant stand against?
Exactly. Absent the law. The Law is Absent. So it’s a defiant stand against the proposal.
(yeesh)

But you knew that already, didn’t you. Which explains your headline for this,
“Much ado about nothing”

Oh wait. Forgive me. I get confused sometimes about your headlines.
You must understand, however.
When a mayor protests about a proposal, it’s,
“Laws? We don’t need no stinkin’ laws”

And when the President blatantly lies to the American people about not knowing who “leaked” information it’s,
“Leaks. Much ado about nothing.”

Good to see you have your priorities straight.
I eagerly await your next post regarding George Clooney’s foolishness.
 
Written By: PogueMahone
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Oh yeah,
One more thing,
You believe that the “climate for gay” (?!?) was created by Newsome and the Board???
Created? No. Enabled? Yes, it obviously has.
Well those were your words, dude.
I’d guess that is because of the climate for gay created by Newsom and the Board, and their defiant stand on gay marriage, etc.
“climate for gay created by Newsome…”

By the way, how does a mayor create a climate for gay? Does he spruce up city hall with potted plants or something? Does he sport a good hair cut and nice shoes? Does the mayor cry at weddings? Interesting.

Okay, okay. You’ve cleared that up already.
So how does the mayor “enable” a “climate for gay”? By not shutting down gay bars? Not banning parades? Not allowing city workers to wear white after Labor Day?

Interesting.
 
Written By: PogueMahone
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Well Pogue - from the linked article -
"The major changes since 2001 are that, first of all, the gay community has grown. It’s largely been an influx of more HIV-negative gay men that are here," he said. "It used to be near 30 percent.
Newsomes stance in 2004 -

Mayor Gavin Newsom openly challenged California state law by allowing same-sex couples to legally marry.... Mayor Newsom decided to allow the full rights of marriage after hearing President Bush oppose it during his State of the Union address on January 20, 2004.
And this -
Documents Reveal San Francisco Mayor’s Ties to Homosexual Activists
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewCulture.asp?Page=/Culture/archive/200406/CUL20040621a.html
Feb 2005 -
San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom lambasted New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg on Thursday for deciding to appeal a court ruling that would allow same-sex marriage in the Big Apple.
And a few weeks ago -
San Francisco mayor Gavin Newsom has cancelled a trip to Rome for the installation of the city’s former Archbishop as a cardinal reportedly after learning the Church is considering a ban on gay adoption in San Francisco.
As the leader of a city, your actions can certainly be construed as creating a ’climate’ for something.

 
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A mayor institutes a policy to attract a segment of the community known to be wealthy and industrious. Who thinks this anything but smart?
 
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