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The Face of Jihadist Fodder
Posted by: McQ on Friday, April 14, 2006

The trial of Zacarias Moussaoui has been interesting to me for one very important reason: it has brought us face-to-face with the fundamentalist jihadist personality and mentality. If nothing else, it has given us a glimpse into what can only be characterized as the disturbed mind of a religious fanatic who is willing to act on his warped understanding of his faith to include sacrificing his life.

What's frightening is he is only one of thousands who believe in this way.
Reasserting his role in Sept. 11, al-Qaida conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui told jurors Thursday he has "no regret, no remorse," was disgusted by the heart-rending testimony of victims and relatives and only wished they had suffered more.

He said hearing a Navy officer sobbing in court made his day.

"So you would be happy to see 9/11 again?" Prosecutor Rob Spencer asked.

"Every day until we get you," the bearded 37-year-old Frenchman shot back.
Moussaoui's testimony puts into words that which every suicide bomber must believe before he or she can push the bomb detonator in the name of their faith. His testimony should do more than just alarm us. It should force us to finally recognize the face of our enemy and the difficulty of the task before us of defeating him. Our enemy is merciless, violent, supremely dedicated and bound by a narrow version of an intractable faith which allows no questioning or deviation.

Moussoui is the implacable face of Islamist jihad in the flesh and his chilling words should again help us understand that the war in which we are engaged is very real and will take a long, long time to win.
 
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McQ, how can you say such hurtful things? Islam is a religion of peace. Poverty is the root cause of terrorism. It’s all America’s fault.

Now, lefties, see how silly that sounds, when juxtaposed with Moussaoui’s actual words? He wants us to die - all of us, including you sympathetic leftists. There are thousands more like him, many of them fighting for the exact same goals as Moussaoui in Iraq today. He wants Islam to rule the world, he wants infidels to either die or submit, and he wants to erase every semblance of the progressive philosophy that you hold so dear. And we are fighting his allies every day in Iraq and Afghanistan (instead of fighting them here like we had to against Moussaoui himself).

So take your "Minutemen" comparisons and your vile hopes that we get driven out of Iraq and your Bush hatred and put them aside, and imagine living in the world Moussaoui wants you to live in, just for a day. You might develop a different perspective - one that made you a lot less willing to blithely dismiss failure in Iraq as proper comuppance for imperial ambitions, or whatever other nonsensical description you give it.
 
Written By: Billy Hollis
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Islam is a religion of peace

Now, lefties, see how silly that sounds, when juxtaposed with Moussaoui’s actual words

LOL, and someone tell the milquetoasts on the Right it sounds just as stupid when they say it.
 
Written By: shark
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LOL, and someone tell the milquetoasts on the Right it sounds just as stupid when they say it.
Yeah. In my long list of complaints about Bush, his incessant repetition of "Islam is a religion of peace" in the days and weeks after 9/11 has a place of honor.

I see two possibilities, and I’m not which is worse:

1. He actually believes it.

2. He doesn’t really believe it, but he has so little faith in his countrymen that he felt he had to say it to dampen the possibility of violence against Muslims.
 
Written By: Billy Hollis
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On a related note, from an article I saw over at Atlas Shrugs:
Although Americans believe they are better informed about Islam than they were five years ago, a new CBS News poll finds fewer than one in five say their impression of the religion is favorable.
Translation:

"Although we’ve been trying to educate those ignorant rednecks by pounding this ’Islam is a religion of peace’ stuff into the ground for almost five years now, for some reason they aren’t buying it. And they actually consider themselves ’better informed’, despite their obviously Neanderthal opinions."

In my mind another clear case of an arrogant and biased MSM.
 
Written By: Billy Hollis
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You know what’s funny? You can substitute the words "Islam" and "religion" for "The Media" and get the same headline!!


Dead Media Walking...
 
Written By: shark
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Moussaoui’s testimony puts into words that which every suicide bomber must believe before he or she can push the bomb detonator in the name of their faith. His testimony should do more than just alarm us. It should force us to finally recognize the face of our enemy and the difficulty of the task before us of defeating him.
Look, Moussaoui is a nut. To the extent one draws any other conclusion from what he says, well, that makes one kind of nutty too.
 
Written By: mkultra
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Look, Moussaoui is a nut.
And people who blow themselves up in cars and in bazaars to take a few infidels with them aren’t?
 
Written By: McQ
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Look, Moussaoui is a nut.


How about those crowds of Palestinians that were photographed on 9/11, cheering their heads off? Are they nuts too?

The current ruling clique of Iran? Nuts, too? (Their rhetoric maps to Moussaoui pretty nicely.)

The Taliban, with their society of sharia and their support of bin Laden and Moussaoui’s associates? Nuts, also?

The cleric in Indonesia who proclaimed that the way to solve the terror problem was for us all to convert to Islam? Nuts, you say?

MK, you’ve just dodged the truth. Again.
 
Written By: Billy Hollis
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Speaking of nuts, MK, are you going to take a couple hour vacation from Liberal Lalaland to go see the movie "United 93"? Heh. Talk about cognitive dissonance! You will want to stay a million miles away from it; it is touted to be realistic.
I’m betting that you prefer to get your information on it from Lalaland sources. Sort of like the right wingers stayed away from "Brokeback Mountain".
 
Written By: Notherbob2
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Look, Moussaoui is a nut.
He is a weapon. He is frontline cannon fodder material, a ’smart’ bomb. He is the Tommy charging the machine guns or Kamikaze pilot of our time. He may have always been a suicidal nut or he may have been sane, he has been trained to become this weapon.
His testimony should do more than just alarm us. It should force us to finally recognize the face of our enemy and the difficulty of the task before us of defeating him.
His testimony is that of a weapon, he is not represnetative of our enemies.

The Palestinians who danced in the streets, the Taliban, the Mullahs, bin Laden and the clerics of Indonesia - none show any particular willingness to die for their causes. They are more likely to send more Moussaouis to do the dying for them. To defeat them requires making them change their opinion of who the enemy is and/or degrading their ability to send weapons against us.
 
Written By: unaha-closp
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To defeat them requires making them change their opinion of who the enemy is and/or degrading their ability to send weapons against us.

Or by making it crystal clear that the price to them of sending weapons against us is prohibitively high.
 
Written By: Achillea
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My paranoid conspiracy theory: Bush is being blackmailed by the Saudi’s who taped him taking a bribe during his Harkin energy days. Thus he invades Iraq instead of Saudi Arabia, calls Islam a religion of peace, and takes extreme left wing positions on immigration and nation building to deflect attention from his shady past. The only evidence I have for this theory, admittedly, was an old WSJ article documenting BCCI connections to the Harkin deal — which, recall, was the turning point in W’s career. He went from ne’er do well to successful businessman/politician. Otherwise its only redeeming feature is that it makes much of his behavior rational. Oh, well.
 
Written By: Luke Lea
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I see two possibilities, and I’m not which is worse:
3: We’re not just in a military, but a sociopolitical and cultural war against a dangerous faction of a major world religion. Recognizing this, the President is appealing to the billion+ Muslims who aren’t actually waging jihad against the US.

It seems to me this is a far better plan than to merely further antagonize them with red meat and stereotypes.

 
Written By: Jon Henke
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You are correct Henke.

Now put that frog in general population/ maximum security prison. Screw the death penalty because this government could have prevented that attack.

It is time to learn discernment when dealing with full evil and stupidity.

Trash THAT bastard and let him live so everyone can see the true living evil that it is. It demands press and review. It is the embodiment of what NOT to be and that is what this guy is. Screw him.
 
Written By: newc
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Jon, I’d like to respond to that, but I don’t want to put words in your mouth. Given the proposition "Islam is a religion of peace", do you or do you not agree with it? Because one might take the attitude you suggested as a tactical strategy, whether or not one agreed with the underlying proposition.

(Your comments on the jihadist faction suggest that you do agree with, or that you think it’s such an over-simplified proposition that it’s not worth arguing over. But you’ve not made it clear.)
 
Written By: Billy Hollis
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I do think it’s oversimplified. Was Christianity a "religion of peace" during the Crusades? I think that’d be hard to argue, too.

Islam is pretty much whatever its adherents make of it. Some Muslims make violent jihad out of it, others (of the very tolerant, easy-going Sufi sect, for example) make peace out of it.

Islam is not intrinsically a religion of "peace" or "violence" or anything else. It’s what Muslims make of it, and it’s in our best interests to encourage them to make something positive out of it.
 
Written By: Jon Henke
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Thanks, Jon. I’m afraid my response will take a while to compose. I have profound disagreement with your position, and I want to make sure I have stated my arguments carefully, rather than dashing something out in a comment.
 
Written By: Billy Hollis
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"Look, Moussaoui is a nut. To the extent one draws any other conclusion from what he says, well, that makes one kind of nutty too"

Sort of like those nuts in Germany in the 30’s who raved about a final solution and "Today Germany, tomorrow the world", or the communist nuts who rant about eliminating class enemies.
 
Written By: timactual
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It is not only pointless, but actually dangerous and deeply counterproductive to concentrate your minds on the most depraved and vicious qualities and examples of those who oppose you. In doing so, you are psychologically preparing yourself to do "anything" to stop them - as they are willing to do anything to stop you. You are training yourself with hatred to equate to theirs. You are also training yourself to be alienated by the larger system to the same extent as they are.

You are, in short, falling into the trap of asymettrical warfare. Asymettrical warfare works because you don’t have to achieve your stated goals of destroying the enemy as, Moussaoui would so clearly enjoy. You simply have to cause his beahvior and perceptions to warp to a great enough extent that he begins to emulate you - thus alienating the vast middle ground enough to cause yourself further losses, dissent, and division, and strategically stupid behavior - eventually leading to a negotiated settlement or impasse more in the enemy’s favor than previously. Or, sometimes both parties are worse off than they started.

Moussaoui is the nadir or Islamic fundamentalism and the nadir of the human element. There are examples of them in almost every violent movement. He is representative of exactly himself, and nothing more. And there’s a little of him in all of us, including every American who ever cheered an aerial bombardment that blew noncombatants into little tiny pieces. There are certainly more fanatics out there similar to him, and there are tens of thousands of other people who dislike America and might take up arms against us or our allies, or even take bombs into shopping malls and bus stations. And there are several hundred million Muslims who have not chosen to do anything of that nature. "Islam is a religion of peace" is a message to those hundreds of millions of Muslims that we do not simply assume that they are all little Moussauois.

Imprinting works, and it works perversely. There’s no faster way to make anyone want to blow themselves up in a shopping mall then to surround him with Westerners treating him like he is going to do exactly that, or that he’s already done it. Add that to the jihadists encouraging him to do so, and he’s halfway there already.

Islam’s primary subject is God, just like every other major world religion. It’s been used and is being used - more commonly right now than other major religions - as an excuse to commit violence. Some people think that Christianity equals polygamy, some people think it equals the abolishment of private property, some people think it means total nonviolence, some people thought it meant burning witches at the stake. Most Christians don’t think any of those things.

Equating Moussaoui with Islam is like equating Hitler with Germany, or the rape of Nanking with Japan. It’s both disingenuous and self-fulfilling.

Kill Moussaoui or stick him in a cell and get on with your life. Stop drooling over his obscenities. By doing so, you allow them to live on longer than they would on their own.

Oh, and calling failure by its name, and labeling it as a pointless act of self-sabotage destined to lose the War On Terror is not a dismissal, but an attempt to avoid future mistakes.
 
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