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The winter soldier is back: Jesse MacBeth is a fraud
Posted by: McQ on Monday, May 22, 2006

A comment on another post brought "Ranger" Jesse MacBeth to our attention. Apparently it brought MacBeth to a number of people's attention. And it isn't attention MacBeth is going to enjoy.

Presently MacBeth is the star of a video in which he tells about he and his fellow Rangers from 3rd Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment, were told that all rules were off and their job was to kill Iraqis, any Iraqis, to make them "fear" them. He is the darling of the anti-war left. Please, go, watch ... it is incredible.

If this guy is a Ranger, I'm Rosie O'Donnell. This guy would have a tough time making it out of basic, much less RIP or Ranger school.

Why do I say that?

Well, go on over and take a gander at his "official photo" at Blackfive.

It's not very clear but it tells you plenty. First up. His beret. Note the flash. The flash designates the unit you're with. That particular flash is the old Ranger Training Brigade flash (researched in Scott Hughes "A Complete Guide to Flashes and Ovals", 1995). MacBeth claims to have been with the 3rd battalion of the 75th Rangers. This is what their flash looks like.


Strike one.

Even if he were a member of the Ranger Training Brigade he wouldn't be wearing that flash (which dates back to 1995 at least). He'd be wearing this one.


Last but not least, as an enlisted soldier he'd be wearing at least the Regimental crest on the flash (whether with the RTB or Regiment). It looks like this:


Strike two.

And that's just his headgear. Strike three is the metal rank insignia (Rangers don't play that game), sleeves rolled like a Marine (that isn't the way the army rolls them and any Ranger would know that) and the lack of airborne wings (the 75th Ranger Regiment is an airborne unit ... no wings, no slot).

Most of all, no self respecting Ranger would ever show up dressed like that for a photo. This guy is a fake. Just like many of the guys who did this 30 years ago. And naturally the anti-war left is just as clueless now as they were then.

The difference? We can point it out now and no longer have to wait 30 years to finger the fakes.

UPDATE: the flash MacBeth is wearing could also be that of the 1st Special Forces Group. A Special Forces flash would never, let me repeat that for the slow folks out there, never, be found on a Ranger beret.

Ever.

UPDATE II: Blather Review catches the fact that the uniform shirt he's wearing in the photo supposedly taken several years ago is the same one he has on in the video. Turning Spork also notes that pictures of all the Ranger classes are available on line, and reviewing the photos for classes after 2001, he was unable to find MacBeth in any of them.

Of course this prompted me to wander down nostalgia way and if you click here, go all the way to the left and up to the third row, last one, that's me (with the ear sticking out ... ok, on review a lot of us had ears sticking out) smiling for the camera at one of the proudest moments in my life. Third guy to my right was my Ranger buddy, Roger Miller. A lot of the guys you see in that picture are dead today as a result of service to their country. And they deserve one hell of a lot better than this piece of crap running around the countryside tarnishing their honor.
 
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That anyone at all believed this guy was legit is truly frightening.
 
Written By: Monica
URL: http://
"his photo is a forgery, but the story is accurate"

Wait for it........

And Karl Rove was behind having all those insignia and customs of service changed (and grandfathered) to discredit this clow..errrrrrr..upstanding American.
 
Written By: looker
URL: http://
But... but... but what he’s saying is true, so it doesn’t matter if he’s a real Ranger or not.

Right?

< /sarcasm>

Add another "fact" to the leftoids reality.
 
Written By: equitus
URL: http://
He’s also wearing the beret backwards and monumentally sloppy. Even an average wearer of the black beret today knows how to wear one, and this ain’t it. That tends to make me believe that he is either
1. non-military at worst or
2. non-Army at best

NO, repeat NO Ranger would last 10 seconds among his peers or superiors with that doofy appearance. This guy needs to have his chops monstrously busted.

Simply put, ask for his year and class. It can be proven or disproven on the Rangers’ website in mere moments.
 
Written By: JRW
URL: http://
He also claims on another site to be awarded 2 Combat Action Badges, 2 Combat Infantry Badges, 3 Combat Jump Stars for Parachutist Wings, Special Forces,& Ranger tabs, Bronze Star medal, Purple Heart Medal & curiously a Pistol Marksmans badge.
 
Written By: sean gilday
URL: http://
I remember him from my Ranger class photo, where is clearly to be seen...

Micah
 
Written By: mikem
URL: http://
The "youtube" site/video linked above says:
"A MUST SEE INTERVIEW. Iraq Veteran Jessie Macbeth recounts his experiences of the war. Jessie served as an Army Ranger in Iraq for sixteen months before being wounded and ultimately discharged from the military."

He served in Iraq for 16 months and was wounded.

Yet this article:
Local activists protest Coffee Plantation
Group alleges that new management discriminates
by Ilan Brat
published on Monday, April 12, 2004

"It has nothing to do with [discrimination]," Spruce said. "It’s just a few people who we wouldn’t allow to use our bathrooms [to bathe] and panhandle our customers. It’s just overreacting."
Jesse MacBeth told another story.

MacBeth, a 20-year-old U.S. soldier who recently returned from Iraq after sustaining a back injury, said Coffee Plantation banned him from the store in March for the way he was dressed — in his training uniform.

He had been sipping coffee calmly when a store employee asked him to leave. He refused.

Management insisted that he leave even after he took out his military ID card. Security guards escorted him off the premises under threat of arrest if he returned."

He says he was banned from a coffee shop in March 2004 (12 moths after the initial invasion) and says he sustained a back injury (I guess that could be a wound, but it sounds odd).

This is the cached address:

This is the regular url but you need to register:
http://www.asuwebdevil.com/issues/2004/04/12/news/657497
 
Written By: Anonymous
URL: http://
Here he is in an op-ed to the ASU Web Devil:

"Guest Column: I never wanted to protest
by Jesse Macbeth
Special to The State Press
published on Friday, April 23, 2004
[...]
I understand they’re upset about the homeless bathing and panhandling in the store. I would be upset about that, too. But again, my problem with them and the Free to Camp Coalition’s problem are way different. I would gladly sit down with Coffee Plantation and discuss a way we can resolve this, because I’ve really got better things to do than protest. I am on the verge of being reshipped out. If Coffee Plantation will agree to change some things, then I will no longer protest. Some of the things include not banning people based on appearance or social status. If people are bathing in your bathroom, then ban them. But if they are paying customers and they are quietly sitting down and enjoying a drink like everyone else and you ban them because you don’t like what they’re wearing, then that is not right. If they were worried and customers were complaining, then I might understand.

I served in Iraq 16 months as a U.S. Army Ranger. Coming back home and being treated that way angered me. Coffee Plantation is not the enemy or my enemy. The owners who discriminate are the enemy. I used to go and hang out there all the time. I would play chess and buy food there all day sometimes.

Lucia Bill and Brian Clapp, it works better if you print the whole truth, not shape it to fit your opinion or Coffee Plantation’s. Your column is just another example of how the media mistreats the people. I love America. I would fight a million wars and die a million times to ensure the safety of America and the American people. So if that makes me a jerk or a socialistic pig, then so be it. I have a lot of pride in my country, my service in my uniform and all of my battle buddies out there right now fighting and dying. I won’t set that aside for anything. If Coffee Plantation wants to sit and talk to resolve this, I will gladly."
cached url:


regular url (requires login):
http://www.statepress.com/issues/2004/04/23/opinions/669611?&print=yes
 
Written By: Anonymous
URL: http://
Perhaps he was claiming to be a Park Ranger?
 
Written By: Master of Obvious
URL: http://
Heck, even my wife managed to spot the obvious BS and I got out on a medical ten years ago.....
 
Written By: Kamatu
URL: http://
Uh there’s link to a supposed military.com page that lists MacBeth on it. Now I read that he is 20, an E-4 YET he claims an SF bage as well as a Ranger badge? Only McQ can really answer this on this page, but is that EVEN possible at 20 and as an E-4? And can you earn a CIB and a CAB? The CAB is for those NOT eligible for the CIB, or so I thought. Plus he claims, I understand, to have earned a combat parachute drop badge... I don’t think the 3/75th made a combat drop. I think only the 173rd Airborne Brigade earned that.
 
Written By: Joe
URL: http://
He also claims on another site to be awarded 2 Combat Action Badges, 2 Combat Infantry Badges...
Really? That’s odd. Because the eligibility requirements for the Combat Action Badge (CAB) are:
(2) Specific Eligibility Requirements:
a. May be awarded to any soldier.
b. Soldier must be performing assigned duties in an area where hostile fire pay or imminent danger pay is authorized.
c. Soldier must be personally present and actively engaging or being engaged by the enemy, and performing satisfactorily in accordance with the prescribed rules of engagement.
d. Soldier must not be assigned/attached to a unit that would qualify the soldier for the CIB/CMB.
Take particular note of requirement d. If you are eligible for the CIB as an infantryman assigned to a Ranger unit, you would not, in that case, be eligible for the CAB.
(8) Soldiers may be awarded the CIB, CMB and CAB for the same qualifying period, provided the criteria for each badge is met. However, subsequent awards of the same badge within the same qualifying period are not authorized.
So, if this young man is to be believed, he would’ve had to serve in a line unit long enough to win a CIB, then switch to a combat support unit for long enough to win a CAB. Moreover, the second award of the CIB and CAB would only be given if he served and won each during two separate qualifying periods.

However, at the present time, the only "qualifying period" of which I am aware of, is the current period of 18 September 2001 to a date to be determined. So he should, in any case, only have one CAB, in any event, and presumably, the same qualifying period holds for the CIB, in which case he should only have one CIB, too.
 
Written By: Dale Franks
URL: http://www.qando.net
"...banned him from the store in March for the way he was dressed — in his training uniform."

Perhaps they banned him for wearing his training pants.
 
Written By: timactual
URL: http://
wearing his training pants.
I bet he was raising a stink. ;)
 
Written By: capt joe
URL: http://
What gets me is how poorly he puts together his thoughts, and stutters them out. I remember in 1986, that we were taught to be concise and fairly verbose in our communications. What does everybody else think?
 
Written By: sniggol
URL: http://
Question: I don’t doubt what you say regarding the uniform. But if he isn’t who he claimed to be, why didn’t the Defense Department - which ought to know these things - announce he wasn’t a Ranger?
 
Written By: steve sturm
URL: http://thoughtsonline.blogspot.com/
Question: I don’t doubt what you say regarding the uniform. But if he isn’t who he claimed to be, why didn’t the Defense Department - which ought to know these things - announce he wasn’t a Ranger?
You’d have to ask DoD about that, but most likely they knew this would happen.

There are active groups of special operators who bust these guys regularly.

For instance.
 
Written By: McQ
URL: http://www.qando.net/blog
Maybe this was what Murtha meant when he said us soldiers were killing Iraqis in cold blood...
 
Written By: shark
URL: http://
Perhaps they banned him for wearing his training pants.
I wonder if this was paired with his training bra ...
 
Written By: josh
URL: http://blog.ausborne.net
Oh man, I just watched the video. I’m not a big fan of the Iraq War, but this attempt is one of the most pathetic lies I’ve seen.

Here are some real Rangers this stuttering jackass is disgracing.

 
Written By: Bryon Rogers
URL: http://deusavertat.blogspot.com
You’d have to ask DoD about that, but most likely they knew this would happen
If the Bush Administration / Defense Department knew this guy wasn’t who/what he claimed and stayed quiet instead of immediately slamming him down then they are idiots.

A big part of the public’s relative lack of support for Bush and for the mission in Iraq is due to the combination of bad press and outrageous claims made by opponents... so to let this guy’s claims fester for as long as they did only aggravated the situation.

And, while giving credit to the guys who exposed this fraud, right now, this is a bit like the tree falling in the forest... nobody - or at least not enough people - are hearing this for it to do any real good.
 
Written By: steve
URL: http://
If the Bush Administration / Defense Department knew this guy wasn’t who/what he claimed and stayed quiet instead of immediately slamming him down then they are idiots.
Come on Steve, it would have only added fuel to the fire. A blog swarm is much more effective than DoD picking on "the little guy". The anti-war left, who thinks DoD is a pack of liars anyway, would have loved it. It would have actually validated their belief that the Pentagon is trying to suppress this guy.
 
Written By: McQ
URL: http://www.qando.net/blog
*nods to McQ* The frothing types would take a DoD explanation of how NOT a Ranger this guy is, as -proof- that he’s a Ranger and that "Bu$hCo" was trying to silence him.

Or something.
 
Written By: Dave
URL: http://
"fake but accurate"

No disclaimer from the Pentagon, et al, would disuade the sufferers of BSD from believing this guys story. No, they would claim it was a consipracy to shut him up. In fact, I wouldn’t be suprised if they still claim that.

And the Bush administration, et al, is supposed to smack down every single negative story out there???

They would need a complete counter-press corp to do that, and then what would the BSDers say. Heck, they already think the White House has complete control over the information flow.
 
Written By: Keith, Indy
URL: http://
A blog swarm is much more effective than DoD picking on "the little guy".
Only a ’blogist’ (defined by me as those who think blogs - no matter how high their respective readerships - actually register in the consciousness of the public at large) would argue that a blog swarm would be more effective at countering this guy’s lies than a press conference at the Pentagon that was covered/aired by the MSM.

The target of the counter attack is not the rabid left - the lostkosites and the dummies - but the general public. Let the crazies scream about government frame-up this or that. The important thing is that the Bush Admin take every advantage to knock down the lies that are being made about things in Iraq. This was about as juicy a pitch as one can hope for... and, whether by laziness (not bothering to check the guys’s credentials) or stupidity (not realizing the need to shape public opinion), the Bush Administration kept their bat on their shoulders and let this opportunity pass by.

And they wonder why the public doesn’t think things are going well over there...
 
Written By: steve
URL: http://
The target of the counter attack is not the rabid left - the lostkosites and the dummies - but the general public.
Steve ... the video is available where?

The internet.

Not on the MSM. Most of the country doesn’t even know about it yet.

So where is the most effective place to fight it? Where it shows up. And that’s precisely what is going on. You kill it now before it gets wider distribution. And you damn sure don’t need DoD to do that.

I’m afraid we’ll have to agree to disagree on thisone.
 
Written By: McQ
URL: http://www.qando.net/blog
a press conference at the Pentagon that was covered/aired by the MSM.
Fact - the Pentagon has daily breifings with the press, and issues thousands upon thousands of press releases each year.

Fact - the Press doesn’t bring any appreciable amount of these to the public.

Fact - the Press still gets much of its reporting on the war and the Pentagon, wrong or incomplete.

So, no I don’t think a press release by the Pentagon, on what until recently was an unknown issue, is going to change matters.
 
Written By: Keith, Indy
URL: http://
Looking good (photo) Bru!
 
Written By: McQ2
URL: http://nukethebabywhales.gov
P.S. Photo is now my wallpaper on desktop. (very proud)
 
Written By: McQ2
URL: http://nukethebabywhales.gov
Thanks Bro ... how do you like that bemused look?

Heh ... that was at the end of the 12 day patrol coming out of FL and we’d had about 12 hours a sleep over all those days. I was glad to be able to stand up at that point to be honest. ;)
 
Written By: McQ
URL: http://www.qando.net/blog
McQ: a final (for me) thought.

While it’s great that you and others have the expertise/experience to spot a fraud such as MacBeth, just as it was great that the right side of the blogosphere was able to do the same with regard to CBS’s TANG documents, your success was made possible in no small part due to the relative incompetence of both MacBeth and whoever it was that forged the TANG documents. Had MacBeth done a better job of researching what beret went with what unit (or had he simply not posted that silly picture of him online) and had the forger done a better job of researching dates, fonts and so on, I dare say that MacBeth would still be the hero of the anti-war left and the words ’fake but true’ would never have been uttered and Mary Mapes would be still on CBS’s payroll and researching yet another attack on Bush.

That is why it is so important for DoD to be vigilant and aggressive in responding to allegations such as that raised by MacBeth and CBS (remember in the CBS story, the White House initially had no comment and took quite a while, after the blogs had done the heavy lifting, to chip in with their weak contribution). DoD has resources blogs can only dream of having. They have a pulpit (to Keith, through press conferences, not releases) both at the Pentagon and at the White House itself to respond forcefully to these allegations, a pulpit capable of reaching far more people - and far more people who don’t already have their opinions and votes set in stone - than blogs can probably ever hope of having.
 
Written By: steve
URL: http://
That is why it is so important for DoD to be vigilant and aggressive in responding to allegations such as that raised by MacBeth and CBS (remember in the CBS story, the White House initially had no comment and took quite a while, after the blogs had done the heavy lifting, to chip in with their weak contribution).
That’s because the DoD and WH have never had the ability to react like the blogosphere did.

Don’t forget that within 4 hours of the docs hitting the net, they were beind debunked. The WH didn’t even know about it before the debunking was essentially done.

MacBeth has flown under the radar for quite some time. He’s essentially had a good little gig going with receptive and non-critical crowds. He was playing their song and saying what they wanted to hear.

Then he takes the next step, obviously fooled into thinking he has this mastered this (given his reception in the smaller and friendlier venues) and raises his visibility.

BOOM!

He’s busted. Immediately. It may have been faster than the 4 hours for the "TANG" documents. And well before DoD even knew what he was doing or even what was going on.

I’m not sure what outcome you want, but this seems pretty darn good to me. And DoD confirming what everyone had pretty much already proven seems a good role for them.
 
Written By: McQ
URL: http://www.qando.net/blog
"That is why it is so important for DoD to be vigilant and aggressive in responding to allegations such as that raised by MacBeth and CBS"

I start to worry a little when the DoD, not to mention other gov’t. agencies, has the capabilities to monitor and if necessary respond to every little p***ant who says bad things about the military or the government. Maybe it’s a lesser of two evils thing.
 
Written By: timactual
URL: http://
I think that McQ’s overall point is that we don’t need the government to do what we can do ourselves.
 
Written By: Tunung Spork
URL: http://blatherreview.mu.nu
The video was so bad; it’s almost like an Ali G impersonation. At the beginning, he actually says: “I wanted to go defend people at home, even though I hate most of them.”

Too funny
 
Written By: Ken
URL: http://
Who cares if the video is fake. The United States is waging a war based on lies. Hello?!?!? Should that be ok?

We are murdering 1,000’s of innocent civilians and U.S. troops with Depleted Uranium. How about Torture in prisons? How about a failure if not complicity in 9/11?

What does it take for people to get it? The U.S. needs to be fixed.

ah ha hahah

Don’t worry, we’ll fix it.

Love,

~ Gabe
 
Written By: Gabe Rivera
URL: http://www.myspace.com/gabe121213
We are murdering 1,000’s of innocent civilians and U.S. troops with Depleted Uranium. How about Torture in prisons? How about a failure if not complicity in 9/11?
How about going back to the cave and relining the tinfoil hat?
 
Written By: McQ
URL: http://www.qando.net/blog
"The former head of the U.S. army’s Depleted Uranium Project announced that the damage from munitions used in both Gulf Wars will eclipse the Agent Orange fallout of the Vietnam War."

Harpers Magazine

Before you go running your mouth and calling this a conspiracy do a little research. The rates of all cancers in Iraq have gone way up and in particular the rates of infant leukemia among others since GW1. This is consistent with the use of depleted uranium rounds.
 
Written By: Nolan Strom
URL: http://
Before you go running your mouth and calling this a conspiracy do a little research. The rates of all cancers in Iraq have gone way up and in particular the rates of infant leukemia among others since GW1. This is consistent with the use of depleted uranium rounds.
Go play somewhere else. You’re the same guys who were all aghast about White Phosphorous use in Iraq.

Have you yet discovered WP has been used by all nations in all wars up to and including Iraq and that it is a sanctioned and legal munition?

And by the way, it’s partly my blog so I’ll "run my mouth" whenever I decide too. You, however, are here at my sufference. Don’t abuse it.

Oh, btw, nice dodge of the point of the post ... that your hero Jesse is a fake, a fraud and a poser and everything he said is a lie.

Have a nice day.
 
Written By: McQ
URL: http://www.qando.net/blog
An Outstanding story about www.peacefilms.org by Mechille Malkin
www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2006/05/another_fake_soldier_tale_debu.html

You should publish this info on the scumbag owner of the site and probably the true ID of the so called: "Jessie MacBeth”

[REMOVED]

Registrant Name: Terry Portinga
Registrant Organization: Terry Portinga
Registrant Street1: REMOVED
Registrant City: REMOVED
Registrant State/Province: REMOVED
Registrant Postal Code: REMOVED
Registrant Country: REMOVED
Registrant Phone: REMOVED
Registrant Email: REMOVED

[We don’t post personal information here. Don’t do it again or you’re gone - McQ]
 
Written By: james gordon
URL: http://
To me, what is so disgusting about all of this....is how many people were so excited over this video. As if this type of news, were it true, would be good news. Truly to what level will these sicko’s on the left sink????? Jumping on the bandwagon of a man who would LIE about what he lied about. And I thought Cindy made me sick. This is just low, lower than the belly of a slug.

 
Written By: Jenn
URL: http://takeastandagainstliberals.blogspot.com/
How about going back to the cave and relining the tinfoil hat?
Have you given serious thought, if even for a moment, as to why three steel-framed buildings collapsed on 9/11? Or why our national air defenses failed four times that morning? If you haven’t, you certainly aren’t alone.

However, even if you don’t agree with me on what took place that September morning, I hope we do agree that our civilian leaders are doing a terrible job running both wars.
Oh, btw, nice dodge of the point of the post ... that your hero Jesse is a fake, a fraud and a poser and everything he said is a lie.

Have a nice day.
Jesse is a worthless sack-of-sh*t; end of story. And for the record it is not uncommon to be pro 9/11 truth and pro-war. Bush got us into this mess and our country needs the cojones to finish it.

Personally, I’m tired of sitting on my *ss and reading about this war. I’m preparing to start a WOFT packet, with the goal of flying MEDEVAC. If that doesn’t work out I’ve been interested in EODS. Either way its time I did something for this country.
 
Written By: Himeo
URL: http://
Have you given serious thought, if even for a moment, as to why three steel-framed buildings collapsed on 9/11? Or why our national air defenses failed four times that morning? If you haven’t, you certainly aren’t alone.
Yes, I have ... it’s because giant aircraft loaded with fuel slammed into them and the heat caused the metal structure to weaken and collapse (and yes, jet fuel burns higher than the degrees necessary to weaken steel by 50%).

BTW, have you ever given serious thought to what would have to take place to prepare 3 highly visible buildings with a security force and 24/7 operations for a controlled demolition? Yeah, no way that conspiracy stays secret, huh?

As for our national air defense, it isn’t oriented toward shooting down airliners full of US citizens.
Personally, I’m tired of sitting on my *ss and reading about this war. I’m preparing to start a WOFT packet, with the goal of flying MEDEVAC. If that doesn’t work out I’ve been interested in EODS. Either way its time I did something for this country.
Go. Do. Enjoy. Good luck.
 
Written By: McQ
URL: http://www.qando.net/blog
I’m so glad that this phoney is being outed so quickly by the blogosphere...the whole incident sickens me.

That said, here’s a little technical hitch to note:
from above:
’UPDATE: the flash MacBeth is wearing could also be that of the 1st Special Forces Group. A Special Forces flash would never, let me repeat that for the slow folks out there, never, be found on a Ranger beret.

Ever.’


That is 99.9% correct. However, the one instance where I’ve seen a Special Ops flash (JSOC to be precise, not an SFG flash)worn on a Ranger beret (still black at the time) was on the headgear of a highly squared away Ranger who left battalion to become a personal aide to the JSOC CO. Not only did he wear the JSOC flash on his Ranger beret, but in lieu of a unit crest, he wore his enlisted rank of E5, in Class A brass, right on the beret! Would never have believed if I didn’t see it myself, but then , he was quite a Ranger!

Sua Sponte, James!
 
Written By: Doc D
URL: http://
Tell me, are women allowed to worship along with men in Sunni mosques in Iraq (or even Shiite for that matter)? This is something I noticed in his story which might be worth investigating. In some cultures the women have separate places in the mosques, worship outside or worship seperately all together. Where I worked in Central Asia the men worshiped seperately and I never saw a single woman leaving the mosque after Friday prayer except those begging or selling bread. Anyhow the distinction is mostly cultural not religious so if any of you know how it works in Iraq that would be something worthly of note.

Cheers
 
Written By: Charlie Mike
URL: http://
It’s seems strange to me that FOX appears to the be the only main stream media that picked this up, and only when the guy turned out to be fake. The fact that he was such an obvious fake leads me to one of two conclusions. One, that the main stream media, including FOX, didn’t pick up this seeming explosive story for the same reason it doesn’t pick up the potentially more explosive stories of alien abductions and Loc Ness Monster sightings. The story did not check out. I imagine some junior fact checker at several, if not all, of the MSM’s outlets debunked the story before their latte lost it’s froth. Therefore it became a non-story.
On the other hand, you might want to look at who this story would benefit at this time. Obviously not the anti-war movement. The laughable ease of proving the story a fake would shed a shadow of distrust and confusion on any reported story of a US military massacre in Iraq by a large portion, if not majority, of people who don’t follow the news out of Iraq closely. "Murtha talking about a US Marine massacre of innocent Iraqi’s? No, they proved that was a fake." If I was a war supporter, I would call this guy and thank him, and ask him to recruit his friends to make as many of these ridiculous interviews as possible. As a supporter of the US Troops in Iraq, I think he’s a moronic A—clown who needed the attention, or a Neo-Con plant that is trying to discredit the anti-war movement.
 
Written By: Danny Corrigan
URL: http://
ADMIN NOTE FROM DALE FRANKS

I have deleted the original comment by Jesse Macbeth’s sister to protect her identity. Some people have been sending her nasty emails. I certainly hope it was none of our readers. Jesse Macbeth, not his sister, is responsible for his own actions.

Her original comment to this post is below.

____________________

I am Jesse’s older sister. Let me tell you...I am finally glad someone has finally discovered he is a fraud.

My brother went to army boot camp but got kicked out after four weeks for an inability to adapt to military life and was sent to a mental hospital in Georgia.

We grew up in the Arizona foster care system. Our mother is schizophrenic, a drug addict, and very abusive. Jesse spent the majority of his childhood in mental hospitals.

He convinced me back in 2002 that he was sick from Hep C and in need of surgery. I took him in. When I discovered that he was faking and stealing from me, I asked him to leave. I drove him all they way back to Arizona (I was going to school in California) and by the time I got back he had managed to empty my bank account, my roommates bank account, and charge up my credit card.

He somehow convinced people in Pima, Arizona that we got shot in the back in Iraq and his story just took off from there.

My brother is mentally ill. I don’t know where my cute little baby brother went or how he got replaced by this scary monster. I don’t know how to help him, so I had to stop contact with him all together.

At least now, maybe he’ll be forced to get some help and get back on his medication.
 
Written By: Dale Franks
URL: http://www.qando.net
Have you given serious thought, if even for a moment, as to why three steel-framed buildings collapsed on 9/11? Or why our national air defenses failed four times that morning? If you haven’t, you certainly aren’t alone.
oh no here we go.

it is an inside job. your government is out to get you. they plated bombs in that building to blow up innocent people.

hey they are knocking on your door right now.
they are coming to get you. they are everywhere.
oh no
hide.

 
Written By: me
URL: http://
I think you are all missing the point and being blinded once more.

It does not matter if this individual is a fake or not... What matters is what he describes within this Video is ACTUALLY HAPPENING!

I have heard similar stories from others returning home from duty and the look in their eyes when telling what they had been through is very very moving.

What is really disturbing are the ones who can’t even talk about it because they are suffering from POST TRAUMATIC STRESS and can’t even find the words to explain their experiences and when asked about what happened... the also began to Stutter or just shake their heads with tears in their eyes.

A couple I have come across carry a Bible clutched to their chest trembling while speaking.

Please take off the blinders of confusion. Seems to me every-time someone says something against Our Great Country and believe me when I say I LOVE THIS COUNTRY, a campaign to discredit and steer us away from the main issue at hand immediately begins.

Instead of trying to find out if this Man real or fake, has anyone of those responding to his credibility put any energy into finding out if there is any truth to what he has described in the video? I did not just research it today and nor do I need to research Web Post accounts and testimonials. I tend to go straight to LIVE humans who where their and getting their TRUTHS and FACTS in any situation. Have you not figured it out yet. The Web Stops human contact, and fills your brain with the opinions of others and not your own.

Of all the Websites I have read today in regards to the video I have not read one that presented any information on any of the issues presented. They all were about who was giving the interview. He is again simply one of thousands of people who could tell stories that say exactly what he has said here that were actually there.

NOTE: IT DOES NOT MATTER IF THE VIDEO IS REAL, WHAT MATTERS IS IF WHAT HE HAS SAID IS ACTUALLY TAKING PLACE.

Much Love/Light to all of you and PLEASE keep focus on the issues and don’t let them keep the mind control of you.

 
Written By: NOT THE ISSUE
URL: http://
It does not matter if this individual is a fake or not... What matters is what he describes within this Video is ACTUALLY HAPPENING!
Here’s a simple question for you ... how could he know that anything he is saying "ACTUALLY HAPPENED" having never really been in the Army for more than a couple months, never having been a Ranger and having never been to Iraq?

Hmmm?
 
Written By: McQ
URL: http://www.qando.net/blog

 
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