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Immigration Call with Ed Meese
Posted by: Jon Henke on Wednesday, May 24, 2006

I participated in today's blogger conference call with former Attorney General Ed Meese on the subject of immigration reform and his column in today's New York Times. I was interested in his apparent desire to resolve border security and immigration issues first, rather than addressing the "root causes". I noted that illegal immigration occurs in the first place precisely because of the wage (and freedom, opportunity, etc) disparity between the US and Mexico. That has created an incentive to get into the US by any means available...and if legal immigration is not available, then illegal immigration will do.

Nothing we can reasonably do will eliminate that disparity, so instead of trying to conduct security operations aimed at millions, or working out some solution for the 12 million illegal immigrants, wouldn't it — I asked Mr Meese — be more reasonable to streamline the legal immigration process and markedly increase our immigration quotas to sufficiently absorb the demand for peaceful migration into the US? If we accomplish this, then the question of amnesty will solve itself rather quickly, as applications for entry were processed in short order. Amnesty is mainly a problem right now because the quota is so small, while the line and the time it takes to be approved is so long. Make the line short and there's little reason to worry about one's placement in the line.

Meanwhile, the actual security problems we do have are compounded by the flood of migrants who are left in the cold by our outdated and overly restricted immigration laws.

Mr Meese's answer was disappointing, although I think my poor phrasing and lack of follow-up was more to blame than was he. He said that he agreed that we needed to streamline our immigration process, but that we needed to do it concurrently with increased border control and internal enforcement.

It seems to me that these two concurrent policies are one more solution than is strictly necessary. All analogies break down, so this is imperfect, but consider:

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We're doing this exactly backwards. If we make it easy for peaceful migrants to enter the country legally, then in fairly short order we won't have the amnesty problem, and the security problem will be much simpler to address. Addressing those problems by insisting that the border be controlled and illegals return to their country while we try to streamline the immigration process is a duplicate solution. Do one well, and the other is far less difficult.

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I think you’re right on, Jon. Very insightful.
 
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As I think I’ve pointed out before, 40% of Mexico’s population wants to live here, and 20% say they’d come here illegally if they had to. Then, of course, there’s all the millions in Central and South America, many of whom are even poorer than the Mexicans.

In order to reduce illegal immigration by increasing legal immigration, you’d have to allow dozens upon dozens of millions of people to come here legally.
If we make it easy for peaceful migrants to enter the country legally
While most "migrants" would be peaceful on a person-by-person basis, the group dynamic is quite a bit different.

If there were 30 million Mexican citizens in this country rather than the current 5 to 10 million, they would form a hugely influential political bloc. They would count towards congressional representation, many politicians would fall all over themselves to represent them even if they couldn’t vote right then, that would give Mexico even more political power inside the U.S. than they have already, and it would increase the chance of turning the southwest into a de facto part of Mexico or its own territory.

The reader is strongly encouraged to think through every factor involved in massive immigration, rather than just the immediate and immediately obvious financial aspects.
 
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If there were 30 million Mexican citizens in this country rather than the current 5 to 10 million, they would form a hugely influential political bloc. They would count towards congressional representation, many politicians would fall all over themselves to represent them...
The unstated assumption is that I would be worse off because the bloc is Mexican, but any large group of people who vote as a bloc is dangerous. I have no reason to believe Mexicans would be any worse than Americans in this respect.
 
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And why, pray tell, would we want to increase the number of people with less than high school educations who can legally join the welfare state?
Are you under the impression that immigrants are generally lazy, apathetic people? That immigrants don’t work? You really haven’t paid attention at all, have you?
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