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Jesse MacBeth’s sister leaves a comment
Posted by: McQ on Wednesday, May 24, 2006

Real or "MacBeth"?
I am Jesse’s older sister. Let me tell you...I am finally glad someone has finally discovered he is a fraud.

My brother went to army boot camp but got kicked out after four weeks for an inability to adapt to military life and was sent to a mental hospital in Georgia.

We grew up in the Arizona foster care system. Our mother is schizophrenic, a drug addict, and very abusive. Jesse spent the majority of his childhood in mental hospitals.

He convinced me back in 2002 that he was sick from Hep C and in need of surgery. I took him in. When I discovered that he was faking and stealing from me, I asked him to leave. I drove him all they way back to Arizona (I was going to school in California) and by the time I got back he had managed to empty my bank account, my roommates bank account, and charge up my credit card.

He somehow convinced people in Pima, Arizona that we got shot in the back in Iraq and his story just took off from there.

My brother is mentally ill. I don’t know where my cute little baby brother went or how he got replaced by this scary monster. I don’t know how to help him, so I had to stop contact with him all together.

At least now, maybe he’ll be forced to get some help and get back on his medication.
I'm attempting to contact here again, but the part about the credit card rings true. On another board she says she is his "half-sister". MacBeth was charged with a similar offense in Pima AZ in 2004.

Developing.

UPDATE: Depending on when he went to Ft. Benning (which now has OSUT) this could be true. Obviously he'd have had to have been 18. I was an infantry AIT company commander way back in the dark ages and seem to remember some sort of discharge specifically for trainees who we didn't think could adapt to Army life. You got them out quickly and it was literally like they'd never existed in the Army ... which could again explain why MacBeth seems to have some familiarity with Ft. Benning, but not as much as anyone would who'd been in the Army for an assignment there. And of course, Ft. Benning is the home of the Ranger Training Brigade. Hmmmm.

Still developing ... and thinking outloud. Noisy, huh?

UPDATE II: Ok this is getting much more interesting. I was reading something on MacBeth on My Vast Right Wing Conspiracy when I ran across this message where MacBeth was claiming to be legit and naming his ex commanding officer:
if you all are so smart then why dont you call ft benning georgia and talk to my ex capt darrishaw pretty sure you all could find that on the web or stop bitching and come out and see me off if you want all the proof in the world and as for the the qalifications to become a ranger spelling is not one of them.
I ran "darrishaw" on Google and got zip. Knowing how awful a speller MacBeth is, I also ran Darrisaw. Bingo:
INFANTRY TRAINING BRIGADE—trains all enlisted Infantrymen for the Army.

[...]

Brigade Command Group—COL William Gallagher, CSM Gregory Watlington

In keeping with the tradition of training soldiers, the U.S. Army Training and Doctrine Command activated the Basic Combat Training Brigade on Sand Hill, 14 January 1999. The brigade's third commander, COL William J. Gallagher, assumed command on 2 July 2003 with CSM Gregory Watlington as his new CSM. To date, the leaders of the Basic Combat Training Brigade have molded, developed, and trained over 28,000 new Soldiers for the Army.

1st Battalion-38th Infantry: LTC James Todd, CSM Kelvin Boyett

A Company CDR – CPT Derrick Hawkins
B Company CDR - 2LT Stephens King
C Company CDR -CPT Jamey Tuggle
D Company CDR-CPT Stefan Lockton

2nd Battalion-47th Infantry: LTC Jesse Ward, CSM Jesus Bruno

A Company CDR – CPT Bradley Maroyka
B Company CDR – CPT Richard Ferrance
C Company CDR – CPT Johnny Rivera
D Company CDR - CPT Colanders Darrisaw
Note the date I put in bold. That means CPT Darrisaw was a basic training company commander around 2003 which would have been almost exactly perfect for an 18 year old Jesse MacBeth. It also means he could have processed MacBeth out of the Army "for the good of the service" on a failure to adapt.

How interesting. So MacBeth may have been a 4 week washout who learned just enough to think he could pull this off and became familiar with Rangers (because, folks, at Ft. Benning, you simply can't miss it) there.

Further developing.

UPDATE III: DD214 is now on line and commented upon here.
 
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This story is so, last minute...

Just kidding. It will be interesting to see how it all shakes out. But, I’m afraid Dan Rather will get a hold of the story and turn it into a movie of the week...
 
Written By: Keith, Indy
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Yes, the sister’s story certainly seems to fit, giving more significance to the word "moonbat" as it relates to "anti-war" activists. I’m surprised nobody has mentioned Munchhausen’s Syndrome. Although the term is mostly used for someone who fakes illness to get attention, it is based on a German soldier named Munchhausen who told a lot of fantastic stories about military service. Burkette uses that term in his great book "Stolen Valor."

It’s sad that "anti-war" fanatics would use MacBeth this way to further their propaganda ends. While few in America still believe his story, gullible Europeans and third worlders will continue to think the video’s are real.
 
Written By: wayne
URL: http://www.americanprotest.net
Re: the profile of the "sister" — don’t tell me you’re one of those who believes that people put their actual photos up in their Yahoo profiles? (More seriously: remember the name change he had when he was two — maybe he was adopted?)
 
Written By: Bubblehead
URL: http://bubbleheads.blogspot.com/
...don’t tell me you’re one of those who believes that people put their actual photos up in their Yahoo profiles?
No ... but you’d think she’d use a pic which at least shared skin color with her "brother".

Then maybe not.
 
Written By: McQ
URL: http://www.qando.net/blog
Dude... you’re going to get in trouble for not being multiculturally sensitive.
Her profile was last updated over a year ago, so I don’t think she (or he... it is Yahoo, after all) was thinking about this "joke" when he/she put up the profile pic.
My Yahoo profile picture looks a lot like Ethan Hawke.
 
Written By: Bubblehead
URL: http://bubbleheads.blogspot.com/
I’m too old to be "multiculturally sensitive".

Old dogs, new tricks, etc. And besides, it doesn’t fit my personality well.
 
Written By: McQ
URL: http://www.qando.net/blog
Same mother, different fathers?
 
Written By: SMASH
URL: http://www.indepundit.com
My buddy here says if you can give me Mr. "Macbeth"s real name, he can check a list of entry level separation (ELS) drops or Exsisting Prior To Service (EPTS) drops at Ft. Benning. SSN would be needed to be absolutely sure... but we could check the name.
 
Written By: Richard
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I’ve been reading a bunch of what "MacBeth" has said, and I’ve come to the conclusion that he’s confessed to commiting war crimes.

Maybe the best tact here would be to get him arrested and charged with war crimes and sent to the Hague. (Well, you probably could only get the idea out there, but couldn’t actually get anyone to do the arresting part. Still would be fun.)

I bet he’d change his tune real fast if someone started suggesting that. And there’s no better place than a trial for the truth to come out.

Not to mention how much fun it would be to see how this would spin with the anti-war groups.
 
Written By: Nylarthotep
URL: http://chaosinmotion.blogspot.com
I’ve been reading a bunch of what "MacBeth" has said, and I’ve come to the conclusion that he’s confessed to commiting war crimes.

Maybe the best tact here would be to get him arrested and charged with war crimes and sent to the Hague. (Well, you probably could only get the idea out there, but couldn’t actually get anyone to do the arresting part. Still would be fun.)
Well since the Army says it never heard of the man, that’d be a little difficult to do now, wouldn’t it?

And fun? You think it would be "fun?"
 
Written By: McQ
URL: http://www.qando.net/blog
Richard: As far as I know it is Jesse Adam Macbeth. At least that’s what is listed on his arrest record.
 
Written By: McQ
URL: http://www.qando.net/blog
The original post Beth at My Vast Right Wing conspiracy linked is here:http://www.armyranger.com/bb/viewtopic.php?p=310279#310279
The poster says she is is half sister. More plausible?
 
Written By: richj
URL: http://actsofaggression.blogspot.com
McQ is right, Macbeth could have been separated for failure to adapt as an initial trainee and it would have been as if he never were there...(though the record of that separation would be somewhere—just not where the initial inquiry was looking—but that’s beside the point)

Chapter 11 of Army Regulation 635-200 covers entry-level separations for soldiers. Enlisted soldiers can be dishcarged for unsatisfactory conduct and/or conduct while in entry-level status—their service is listed as "uncharacterized" and must be initiated before the soldier completes 180 days continuous active duty service.

Unsatisfactory conduct includes "failure to adapt to military environment."
 
Written By: Army Lawyer
URL: http://armylawyer.blogsome.com
Chapter 11 of Army Regulation 635-200 covers entry-level separations for soldiers. Enlisted soldiers can be dishcarged for unsatisfactory conduct and/or conduct while in entry-level status—their service is listed as "uncharacterized" and must be initiated before the soldier completes 180 days continuous active duty service.
That’s it! I couldn’t remember that for the life of me. We were able to use that in AIT as well, even if they had successfully completed basic because at the time they showed up they hadn’t completed their 180 days.

Chapter 11 ... a training company commander’s best friend. You’d think I’d remember that till the day I died.

Thanks for the reminder!
 
Written By: McQ
URL: http://www.qando.net/blog
And fun? You think it would be "fun?"
Geez, Lighten up. The remark was supposed to be humor not dissent.

 
Written By: Nylarthotep
URL: http://chaosinmotion.blogspot.com

try this

Jesse Adam Macbeth (born Jesse Adam Al-Zaid[1], 1984- )
 
Written By: LT
URL: http://
I believe he was roster number #254, Delta Company, Basic Training at Ft Benning. Maybe that will help find him on the drop list.
 
Written By: erewhon
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I believe he was roster number #254, Delta Company
There were a ton of "Delta" companies (each battalion has one). Which battalion? 2/47?
 
Written By: McQ
URL: http://www.qando.net/blog
Yup. Sorry, I took it for granted from the Darrisaw bolding you had up above.
 
Written By: erewhon
URL: http://
Ok. Fair enough.

Where’d you come up with the roster number? Also, that’s kind of a high number for a basic company (usually around 200 at fill).
 
Written By: McQ
URL: http://www.qando.net/blog
My buddy and business partner was roster #401 when he went through Ft B, so maybe it’s not so high.

I got this from a friend, it’s sort of clumsy to say how. The 2/47 part was sort of smudgy on the FAX to the point of illegibility, but knowing that’s it, that’s it.

FWIW, I posted this on Tuesday to a military forum but they thought I was having my leg pulled. Link being emailed to you, in case you think I’m "me, too!"-ing you.

 
Written By: erewhon
URL: http://
I don’t. I was just curious as to the source of the number.

Did your friend know MacBeth or does he have access to a roster that shows MacBeth on it?

I’ve emailed the company commmander listed in the excerpt but haven’t heard back from him at this time. Knowing the source of the roster number and perhaps a date (if it is on a list) would be most helpful and help me narrow the timeframe for now MAJ Darrisaw.
 
Written By: McQ
URL: http://www.qando.net/blog
McQ,

FYI my buddy says the numbers are by platoon i.e. first number is the platoon- 100-159 1st PLT, 200-259 second platoon an so forth. A full company is 240 but typically, they run about basic trainees 180-220. 247 wouldn’t be a high number but it is interesting/coincidental (suspicious?) that the number matches the battalion. The aforementioned buddy is going to check the lists I mentioned earlier.
 
Written By: Richard
URL: http://
Let’s say the nature of the source is that he would have had to use that more than once as his "current address". The upside is that he had to do it more than one time consistently to be indexed by that particular mining program. The downside is that if he’s consistently nuts/lying about it, then it will look "real" and will go on the log. However, it is interesting that it correlates to the other info, which is generally a pretty strong confirmatory tool.

If you don’t get the email let me know, my mail app bombed when I hit send, yay Microsoft. :) I would just post it but there’s lots of trollers there now, no point adding to the festivity.


I don’t have any other info, just that statement that he appeared to be at Ft B at one point, and the company and roster number. No dates, unfortunately.

 
Written By: erewhon
URL: http://
254 would be a 54 man platoon. Pretty big. When I had an Infantry AIT company there we tried never to fill over 220 (w/recycles and all). 247 would be on the edge. But, as you note, it could also be 2/47.
The aforementioned buddy is going to check the lists I mentioned earlier.
Great ... let me know what you find.
 
Written By: McQ
URL: http://www.qando.net/blog
If you don’t get the email let me know, my mail app bombed when I hit send, yay Microsoft. :) I would just post it but there’s lots of trollers there now, no point adding to the festivity.
Got it and sent you a reply. Thanks.
 
Written By: McQ
URL: http://www.qando.net/blog
Can’t you just get MacBeth’s half-sister to send you a scanned copy of his DD214? She did say that she has his military file...

—Tuning Spork
 
Written By: Tunung Spork
URL: http://blatherreview.mu.nu
Nope ... nothing about his military file or 214.
 
Written By: McQ
URL: http://www.qando.net/blog
Can’t you just get MacBeth’s half-sister to send you a scanned copy of his DD214? She did say that she has his military file...

—Tuning Spork
 
Written By: Tunung Spork
URL: http://blatherreview.mu.nu
The sister/half-sister thing is hardly unusual. I have half-brothers who I usually refer to as simply brothers, but when I want to clarify further, I’ll mention that they are half-brothers. When you grow up together, you kind of forget that technicality much of the time.
 
Written By: tommy
URL: http://
This would also explain why he wears his beret the wrong way. Depending on when he went in, he may have been in the military prior to the introduction of berets. Does anyone recall when they introduced the beret? It was a few years ago, but exactly when?
 
Written By: tommy
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The comments made so far are pretty much to the point. It appears this young man was removed for inability to adapt. This would explain why there was no immediate record of his entry since I vaguely remember such cases were recorded outside the normal personnel system. If someone else remembers better please correct me but the intention years ago was to put such a record away from public access so that an otherwise decent young person wouldn’t have a stigma attached to him if he/she was removed for such a reason.

The point about last duty assignment is very relevant with the BCTB abbreviation (Basic Combat Training Bn/Bde) I would also point out that since he didn’t finish OST he was never awarded an MOS so that space wouldn’t have been filled in except by the individual at a later date for his attempted fraud. There’s no such MOS as 11 bravo, it would be written as 11B10 for an E1 through E4 pay grade, 11B20 for an E5 etc..
 
Written By: JD
URL: http://
I’ve examined the DD 214 that Jessie MacBeth allegedly posted to his MySpace account "proving" his service.
For one thing, where it claims that he’s Ranger qualified, it says "qualifyed". I’m pretty sure an Army clerk who has out processed thousands of soldiers can spell "qualified" correctly. Two, the schooling and training portion is completely blank. ALL training courses should be listed here, including AIT and Ranger training. Under "character of service" (in the dark smudged area of the 214), it says "uncharacterized" rather than "honorable". The area that indicates type of separation is totally smudged and says *FU* on top of it. Under awards and decorations, there is only one decoration listed, the "Purple heart", but no awards for basic training, NCO training, overseas campaign ribbons, or the Bronze Star he claimed to have. Also, the Purple Heart is followed with "shot during active service" - well DUH. Was he shot trying to rob the Quickee Mart? Purple Hearts are ONLY awarded for injuries sustained in combat in a recognized combat zone. The additional comments are redundant and would not have been added. The form also indicates that the "member has not completed first full term of service". My guess was when I saw it, was that the person, if this form is legit, entered service but never even completed boot camp. Allegedly his sister or half-sister confirms this. In short, the form is doctored and total BS. Big surprise.
 
Written By: rokbassist
URL: http://
My guess was when I saw it, was that the person, if this form is legit, entered service but never even completed boot camp.
Yup .. his unit from which he was discharged is a BCTB company. Basic Combat Training Brigade ... basic training.

Or as it is popularly known ... "boot camp".

Discussion of the DD 214 in a new post here.
 
Written By: McQ
URL: http://www.qando.net/
I just recently came across this story. What a farce. Just so you all know - I am not military. But this kid should be hung out to dry. Nobody has the right to "pretend" the stuff this guy has. Is smears the reputations of real service people.

But here’s the real question. What I want to know is can some of us plain civilians accompany the Rangers out to "speak" with Jesse? I’ll buy rounds afterwards.....

 
Written By: Specter
URL: http://spectervision.blogspot.com
I went through Basic in 2002. Berets were not authorized for Basic, nor were they authorized in 2003 when I attended AIT as a split-op. During 2004, trainees could wear the beret. He is probably a failure to adapt, and mentally ill. We had one in Basic, talked big but was clearly disturbed. SSG HB
 
Written By: Robert Hodgman-Burns
URL: http://
This would also explain why he wears his beret the wrong way. Depending on when he went in, he may have been in the military prior to the introduction of berets. Does anyone recall when they introduced the beret? It was a few years ago, but exactly when?


The Beret was initially introduced into certain active duty units around June 2001. I remember this specifically because my unit was in Korea on our annual training and they had a cerimony at the camp we were on for the introduction of the beret.
 
Written By: Ryan
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