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What ever happened to grace? What ever happened to gratefulness?
Posted by: McQ on Monday, July 24, 2006

I'm sure, by now, you're all familiar with the tale of the complaining evacuees from Lebanon. I have to be honest, after watching a couple of CNN interviews I figured it was an American thing. I have to admit being stunned by the pettiness of the complaints and the whiny nature of them, but I figured the "all-about-me" crowd had struck again and, of course, leave it to TV journalists to find the complainers in the crowd (and yes, thank you, I know they weren't all complaining, in fact, probably not even the majority were complaining).

Well much to my surprise, Lorne Gunter of The Edmonton Journal apprised me of the fact that it wasn't in fact, just an "American thing":
Aw, the boat ride was too long, was it? And you say it was too hot? There was no doctor on board, either? And the departure was delayed. And the port was chaotic. And too little food and water had been laid in. And some of you had to sleep on the floor!?

Oh, the indignity of it.

To listen to the whining and carping of many of the 261 Canadians rescued from Beirut on the first day of the evacuation from Lebanon, you would think they had just been returned to port from an ocean cruise that went terribly wrong, instead of being saved from a war zone.
So reading over his article I ask myself, "what were their expectations, for heaven sake?"

I mean think about it. A war literally explodes into existence one day.

Naturally the number of refugees seeking escape wasn't a trickle, but instead a tsunami, which broke across embassies which, with their small staffs, had to completely reorient their focus and being executing a plan for evacuation.

One of the first acts of the Israelis is to crater the runways at the only major airport in the country so their enemy can't be resupplied. So immediately evacuation by air is out of the question.

And that leaves? Yeah, ships. Ships which have to be found, chartered and moved to the area. Ships, those big old steel jobbies which move about 100 times slower than an airplane.

So, while it takes a couple of days, they get the ships and, woe unto the evacuees, they aren't the QE2. No folks, some are even -gasp- cargo ships. "You want me to ride on that!?
One woman from Montreal described the trip as "hell;" not the war, but rather her tax-paid voyage to freedom. After all, it had taken 15 hours instead of seven. Twice their ship, the Blue Dawn, had been stopped by the Israeli navy to ensure it was not hostile.

Imagine that. Stopping a ship in a war zone to see whether it is friend or foe. How rude!

And the griping doesn't end with those Ottawa has already plucked from the suddenly very hot zone in south Lebanon. Others still awaiting evacuation complain that our embassy in Beirut has not dealt with them fast enough. Their e-mails have gone unanswered, their phone calls meet with a busy signal. If they present themselves in person, there are long lines in the hot sun to meet a Foreign Affairs official face-to-face.

There aren't hotel rooms for them all. The waiting rooms are inadequate for the numbers wanting to leave. Embassy staff will not give precise departure times.

No kidding. We're not talking about the returns desk at Wal-Mart the day after Christmas.
Self-indulgent, self-absorbed and plain old selfish. My goodness how spoiled some of us are and how tiresome we've become when we can't even take in stride and good grace the inconveniences which come with saving our stinking skin.

As Gunter asks:
Whatever happened to personal responsibility? To simple gratefulness?
Yeah, what?!
 
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It’s the new meme, McQ. "There can be no error. All must be perfect."

I’m sure I could find something in the Retief series which would have made fun of this behavior.
 
Written By: Mark A. Flacy
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This is totally pulled out of my ass, but I wonder if there’s a selection bias at work here, where the people who are most likely to get themselves onto these boats are the loudest complainers, most able to make some poor official’s life hell if s/he doesn’t take care of them.
 
Written By: kenB
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Grateful? Grateful? For what?

If I was an American there, I would have every right to be p*ss*d, especially if I paid my taxes to my government. Think about it. My tax dollars go to pay for the bombs that another nation wants to drop on my head. And I would let my government know how p*ss*d I was. They would be lucky if the worst they got from me is whining.

Worse, rather than demand that said nation delay dropping the bombs that I paid for so I can safely exit, my government sends over more powerful bombs that can be dropped on my head, and those of the innocent people who live around me.

The only reason the government is forced to save my stinking skin is because another very rich nation that nevertheless collects billions in welfare from my government is allowed to do what it wants with that welfare money, no strings attached. (The Katrina survivors could learn a lesson or two from the Israeli government.) If they want to kill innocent civilians, and bomb neighborhoods where broadcast equipment owned by the opposition to Hezbollah is located (which, of course, has nothing to do with re-supplying Hezbollah), again, with my tax dollars, Bush has no problem whatsoever. You bet I would be whining. Why are we paying for bombs to destory a television station that has been critical of Hezbollah? And why should I pay for bombs that are causing many former critics of Hezbollah to now seek solidarity with Hezbollah?

If Israel wants to blow Lebanon back to the stone age, fine. Let them do it on their own nickel. But if my government is stupid enough to give them my money to help them do it, and in the process put my life in danger, and turn opponents of Hezbollah into Hezbollah supporters, you are d*mm right I’m going to b*tch. And I got every right to.
 
Written By: mkultra
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My friend Heather (an American) was one of the people who was evacuated. You may have seen her on Greta van Susteren’s show or in People magazine. The conditions were not nice, though they’re quite grateful they got out.

They have a Facebook group up now: "Israeli Bombs Ended My Arabic Program" :^P
 
Written By: OrneryWP
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Many of these people have lived in Lebanon for years, pay no taxes to Canada and keep the Canadian citizenship around as a place to bug out to.

The reason these complaints get such big press in Canada is that the profoundly liberal Canadian media is waging open war against Prime Minister Harper. All part of the plan to make the PM look as bad as possible. So yes, the worse complaints get the most press.

As to hebollah fighting Israel, perhaps, they have a bit of help in that regard. Wonder when Iran will give up the pretense?
 
Written By: capt joe
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Well, well, well - MK makes a return. It’s been a while MK, and it’s good to see you finally got one thing right in one of your screeds "the government is forced to save my stinking skin"
 
Written By: meagain
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I can think of no better time to b*tch and complain than when one finds themselves in the middle of a warzone. If they were criticizing the government for the hasty accomidations provided to them, or making outlandish demands for more, I might share in your outrage. As far as I can tell this is nothing more than people caught in a sh*tty situation b*tching and letting out some steam, which is pretty natural and hardly something to get indignant over.

The only thing more petty than their complaints, is the faux outrange of those on the internet who would get offended that people might possibly vent some steam when caught unexpectedly in the middle of a d*mn warzone.
 
Written By: Rosensteel
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The only thing more petty than their complaints, is the faux outrange of those on the internet who would get offended that people might possibly vent some steam when caught unexpectedly in the middle of a d*mn warzone.
Do you have the same feeling to these people?
Media Gins Up Controversy Over Bomb Signing Photos

Of course that war is Israel’s fault. Isn’t that right MK?


 
Written By: Paul L
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mkultra,

How long has the State Department been saying to stay the hell out of Lebanon? These people chose to go there despite of that. They have absolutely no right to complain about anything.
 
Written By: Jamie
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If you live in the desert, you can hardly be surprised that it might get hot. Likewise, if you live near the bekaa valley then ...
 
Written By: capt joe
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Well it’s fairly typical of human beings....It’s unfair and unpleasant of them, but I think you put people into discomfort and fear they tend to lash out, SOME not all. And that’s what you have here.

And some folks I can’t really blame for going to Lebanon. If I were studying Arabic and Arabic Literature, I’d SURE AS H$)) go to Beirut before I went to Cairo!

Other folks shipped their minor children off the Lebanon, yes to see the grandmama and grandpapa, but shipped them to Lebanon on their own! Now those folks I wonder about...
 
Written By: Joe
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Joe and Rosesteel seem to feel that lashing out because of frustrations are justified. I think if they vented their frustrations on those that instigated this confrontration (Hezbollah) that it would be better. I agree with McQ that there should be some gratitude to those that removed them from a frightening situation. I also believe that people that travel to zones designated as dangerous by the State Department should be given a letter with their visa saying "Do not expect immediate rescue-don not expect us to contract with Princess cruises to remove you from the danger zone.
 
Written By: to scott
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I don’t condone it so much as expect it...just let me point out that sick people can be awfully UNPLEASANT, even to their care-givers. People are not always at their best when they are stressed, that’s all. That’s why we hand out awards to Albert Schweitzer, he’s a rarity.
 
Written By: Joe
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I’m ashamed these folks are Canadian.

Glad to see the backlash against the ingrates has begun.

On the other hand, maybe its a Rovian plot!

 
Written By: JasperPants
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This all reminded me of the folks who would go mountains climbing without proper training or equipment, then when they get stuck or just plain tired, they call on their mobile phones for a helicopter ride back down.

They should be made to pay for it all. And they should be grateful that they weren’t just left there.
 
Written By: Neo
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This is totally pulled out of my ass, but I wonder if there’s a selection bias at work here, where the people who are most likely to get themselves onto these boats are the loudest complainers, most able to make some poor official’s life hell if s/he doesn’t take care of them.

Written By: kenB
A variant of the squeaky wheel gets the most grease.

And the present media adulation of the Cult of Victimhood, where nods and coos of approval and cheering that is their "victim rights" accompany any media article of "angry victim people" of 9/11, Katrina, Lebanon, or whatever other Marquee tragedy du jour —- about "suffering people" absolute entitlement to be demanding unlimited .....entitlements.

Canada is just another country that subscribes to the Cult. But they are even worse because they legitimate certain "professional" victims, as beyond criticism or pointing out certain unsavory facts about them. The Canadians did the howler of saying the 17 terrorists they arrested were "diverse", from "many income stratas", "native & foreign-born", "with no common feature in their background" except err.....what the Canadians thought was impolite to say about the young lads who may have been "victimized by Canadian society"...that little wee insignificant thing of commonality. Which was incredibly amusing watching Canadian Police and politicians scared to death of Canadian "hate speech" laws arguing with questioners about their "Islamic faith, if in fact all 17 are Islamic, having anything to do with it, given how the Canadian Nation loves and respects its cherished people of the Islamic Faith for their contributions and diversity and multicultural values that "makes Canada better"...

I tend to be revulsed at "victims" who make incessant demands but fail to show any gratitude for help, financial assistance they think they deserve as a matter of course.....and who fail to acknowledge that in many cases their ending up in a warzone or chest deep in sewage is their own fault....and who also fail to pitch in in anyway to improve their situation once they are in trouble. Victimhood removes the need to say thanks, to acknowledge error, or be self-reliant.

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That said, it is not enough to condemn the underclass of NOLA for the worthless parasites they are, or reckless people failing to heed warnings of being in an unstable, dangerous country - or the self-important "victims, victim families" presuming their absolute moral authority from victimhood justifies dictating their demands on whatever ——

Without also condemning the fatcats that whine and wheedle their own Federal goodies.

Maybe a repugnant mother of 6 with none of the fathers fleeing NOLA got 20,000 worth of welfare bennies and all the free schooling, clothes, medical, food, and dental they desired...plus a year in a swank 3-star hotel costing 50,000.

But at the same time, a Texas multimillionaire rice farmer or oilman got 800,000 in additional tax cuts for the wealthy, and was paid 2.5 million NOT to grow rice or got 2 million extra in special writeoffs in the 15.7 billion Oil Industry corporate welfare package.

THose guys are bigger parasites than the NOLA ones, and equally rank ingrates(aside from the signed Bush photo they place next to the family picture on the mantle).

And the same goes for the seniors and Big Pharma fatcats who wheedled the 13 trillion Bush drug entitlement. No gratitude there...just campaign money and riches for revolving door lobbyists that enabled their windfall.
If you live in the desert, you can hardly be surprised that it might get hot. Likewise, if you live near the bekaa valley then ... posted by Cap’t Joe
LOL!

Jasperpants -
I’m ashamed these folks are Canadian.

Glad to see the backlash against the ingrates has begun.


Similar to the two Canadian "Christian Peacemakers" that initially, along with their organization, refused to thank the American and British Special Forces that rescued them. Then backtracked when their heads where figuratively, vs. the Religion of Peace *literally*, handed to them..

 
Written By: C. Ford
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If I was an American there, I would have every right to be p*ss*d, especially if I paid my taxes to my government
And since I’m an American HERE, I have every right to be p*ss*d at YOU, since your being there means you’ve ignored one and probably multiple state department advisories/warnings against going to a known craphole in a volatile region, and now my tax money has to be spent bailing you out.

So maybe you should say thank you and STFU
 
Written By: Shark
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The only thing more petty than their complaints, is the faux outrange of those on the internet who would get offended that people might possibly vent some steam when caught unexpectedly in the middle of a d*mn warzone.
Yeah, that kind of goes to my question about "whatever happened to grace"? Sometimes its just better to be silent and thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. And those that complained loudly certainly removed any doubt, at least as far as I’m concerned.

Oh, and this isn’t "faux" outrage.
 
Written By: McQ
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And since I’m an American HERE, I have every right to be p*ss*d at YOU, since your being there means you’ve ignored one and probably multiple state department advisories/warnings against going to a known craphole in a volatile region, and now my tax money has to be spent bailing you out.
It isn’t Arabs who are dropping bombs on Americans in Lebanon, it is Israelis.

When was the last time an American was killed in Lebanon by a terrorist? It has been years. Hezbollah has access to thousands of Americans in Lebanon, yet hasn’t killed one for years. Indeed, Lebanon is a relatively secular, modern country, and Hezbollah, unlike the extremist Shia that Bush suppots in Iraq, aren’t cracking down on secular impulses. The threat of Hezbollah to the United States today, and to American citizens, is virtually non-existent, notwithstanding the press on the extreme right, and winger blogs.

Israeli planes are dropping bombs on the homes of American citizens in Lebanon, using bombs paid for with your tax dollars. Unlike you, I have a problem with that. Have you seen the footage and the photos? Israel is knocking down apartment building after building in Beruit. Innocent women and children live in those buildings. Israel knows that. It doesn’t care.

Does Hezbollah do the same? Of course. Do my tax dollars go to support Hezbollah? Nope.

You ... just ... don’t ... get ...it.
 
Written By: mkultra
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Israeli planes are dropping bombs on the homes of American citizens in Lebanon, using bombs paid for with your tax dollars. Unlike you, I have a problem with that. Have you seen the footage and the photos? Israel is knocking down apartment building after building in Beruit. Innocent women and children live in those buildings. Israel knows that. It doesn’t care.

Does Hezbollah do the same? Of course. Do my tax dollars go to support Hezbollah? Nope.

You ... just ... don’t ... get ...it.
I get it.

Hezbollah openly camps out in the middle of civilians. Hezbollah kidnaps Israelis and fires rockets at their cities.. Hezbollah invites retaliation- provokes it.

But it’s Israels fault.

Yeah......right. I know, I know. Better only a few jews die each day so the rest of the world can have "peace".

Someone here doesn’t get it, but it’s not me pal.

 
Written By: shark
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By the way MKKK, your tax dollars go to Lebannon in the form of foreign aid, maybe you should be angry at them for not enforcing their soverignty and chasing f*cking terrorists out of their land.

But nope, only the Jews have to step to and toe your line in this case I suppose.

Guess with you it only cuts one way....a knife in the back.

 
Written By: shark
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And when was the last time an American was killed in Israel by a terrorists...

And we didn’t do a thing about it then.

So, Israel should just take it up the !!! as far as being on the receiving end of terror, and not do a thing against those committing the terror, or those who harbor them.

No, it’s Hizbollah who are setting up command posts, safe houses, and ammo depots in the midst of Lebanons civilian population who deserve the blame for the areas Israel has to attack.

Hizbollah isn’t a threat to America, it’s a threat to Israel, which is why Israel is waging a limited war with them, NOT AMERICA. And it’s why, on the one hand we should call on Israel to do it’s best to contain civilian casualties, and on the other, let them defend themselves against terrorist agression.
 
Written By: Keith, Indy
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I am sure mkultra would complain about his tax dollars going to support the police if a bunch of criminals in a running gun battle with the police ran into a crowd and continued shooting at the police and the police shoot back.

Afterall, women and children could be hurt.

 
Written By: Paul L.
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MKKK would find something to complain about to cast US/Israel as the baddies, even if no tax dollars were involved.
 
Written By: shark
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I think of many of these folk the same way I do of people who ignore "Do Not Feed the Bears" signs and then get mauled by a bear. Pinheads are just asking for it.

By the way, how many are whining to be evacuated from Israel and then whining about how it was done? I don’t know, cause I haven’t seen any reports.

Plus, here in the Detroit Metro area, those complaining loudest are those with the closest ties to Hizbollah. Odd, that.
 
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