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Propaganda and patience - how the enemy plans to defeat us
Posted by: McQ on Saturday, August 19, 2006

Interesting report out of Iraq. In light of the recent posts I've made about propaganda and why it is important, and especially so in asymmetrical warfare, this brings home a few important points:
An Iraqi militant group has produced an elaborate video of what it said were attacks on U.S. troops, in the latest example of the increasingly sophisticated propaganda war being waged by Iraqi insurgents.

"The Code of Silence" was posted on the Internet by the Rashedeen Army, thought to be a relatively small Sunni group which has produced videos in the past of attacks it claims to have carried out.

At almost an hour in length, it is the longest and most professionally made of recent postings by mainly Sunni militant and insurgent groups fighting the U.S.-backed government.
Point 1: They're getting better and better at their propaganda and they're using all methods and means to get their message out there. Slick productions made available by video are a very good way of doing just that. And, of course, it tells only their side, which, naturally, is all they want anyone to hear in the first place.

Our answer to that? Mostly the chirping of crickets.
Lifting scenes from Michael Moore's anti-war film "Fahrenheit 9/11", Rashedeen's narrator taunts President Bush in softly spoken English over graphic images of Humvees being blown up by roadside bombs, and purportedly dead U.S. troops.
Point 2: They will use what Americans say as a tool to help their cause if it fits their agenda. So please, be kind enough not to deny it anymore. Here's reality.
"In the good old days of the invasion, this used to be a one-man show. Not any more. Your boys have become smart. They started to ambush us. Today it takes a big unit.

"That's good. It means your boys are on the run all day long, seven days a week. And it is really devastating for them, especially if they are on their third tour and don't have our secret weapon — patience."
Point 3: The difference in a nutshell. We don't have that secret weapon. Haven't had it for years — decades. I've discussed that as well. They know it. It's all about waiting us out ... as usual. And it may work.

Interesting article.
 
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Propaganda and Patience...couldn’t have said it better.
 
Written By: Jim Rose
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Nor I.
As I have said before, McQ; On this point we are in full agreement.

 
Written By: Bithead
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People will believe what they want to believe so winning the propaganda battle is futile.
 
Written By: jpm100
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. "Haven’t had it for years — decades. "

Probably not since around 1776, if then.
 
Written By: timactual
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Propaganda is central to any war, including especially guerrilla conflicts. But trying to stifle dissent on our side for fear the other side may gain a propaganda victory is simply pointless (if that’s what your point is). Ann Coulter provided just as much a propaganda victory when she spoke of Christianizing Afghanistan as Michael Moore did in Fahrenheit 9/11. Yes, these things are used by the enemy. But we’re a democracy, and the fact that people can say outrageous things is a sign of our democracy’s strength, regardless of how some Iraqi insurgent uses it.

The real propaganda problem we have is that we know so little about the culture, language and religion of Iraqis. People believe propaganda when it resonates with local cultural norms. Generalized concepts like "freedom", "democracy" or "liberation" rarely make much of an impact. In fact, they sound like BAD propaganda, which is probably worse than no propaganda at all. Now, if we had Shi’ite and Sunni clerics with considerable influence selling the cause of the new government in language that resonates with ordinary Iraqis, then we’d be doing better. At times, we’ve done that successfully. Especially before the elections in 2005. Our best advocate was Sistani. Unfortunately, after the 2/22 Samarra bombing, moderate voices like Sistani are getting drowned out by radicals.
 
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They will use what Americans say as a tool to help their cause if it fits their agenda. So please, be kind enough not to deny it anymore. Here’s reality.
Who is debating this? Who is denying it? If you think the radical muslims are’t using George Bush’s words to recruit new terrorists, you are asleep. "Bring ’em on"? "Axis of Evil"? Bush’s words naturally recruit new terrorists. No serious person debates that fact. The only debate is whether the positives of his words outweigh the negatives.

Were you thinking the terrorists use only what Americans on the left say to advance their cause? Seriously, what side of the political debate do you believe is denying this?
 
Written By: mkultra
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Is the suggestion here that Bush administration does not engage in the art of propagandizing? Surely, you jest.

And Bush has patience too. He is not going to witbdraw troops or alter his strategy one bit. Stay the course and all that. Bush has shown a complete unwillingness to succumb to public inpatience with his incompetence.

So what difference are you possibly talking about?
 
Written By: mkultra
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Mk, I’m not sure that OBL and crew necessarily read this website, but boy just check out the material waiting for them.

http://www.globalexchange.org/countries/mideast/iraq/counter-recruit.html

You know somehow I suspect that Medea Benjamin, Kevin Danaher, Leslie Cagan, Ramsey Clark, C. Clark Kissinger and the rest of the crew don’t think they’re contributing to propaganda against the US. And honestly, after consulting their various resumes, even if they did, do you think they’d care?
 
Written By: The Poet Omar
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In 1973 Yassar Arafat met with the North Vietnamese to learn everything they could teach him about winning a guerilla war against a militarily superior force. They didn’t teach him much about military tactics, they taught him about propaganda. The strategy: Play the victem role, cultivate the western media by using the lingo of freedom, democracy and pacifism no matter how contrary it is to your real intensions or actions, and be patient. The key is to appeal to the left-wing in the west and they will do your dirty work for you. Mona Charen wrote a book called "Useful Idiots" that documents the communist propaganda campaign during the cold war, culminating with their crowning achievement in Vietnam (a war that was won militarily but lost on the CBS evening news). Every enemy America has today reads from the same playbook and yet WE never seem to learn.

You can see this strategy repeatedly carried out by terrorists and dictators everywhere: Saddam Hussein, Osmama Bin Laden, Iran, the PLO, Hamas, Hezbollah, Castro, Chavez, North Korea, etc., etc., etc.........

 
Written By: DS
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DS,
The same was true of right-wing dictatorships in the Cold War. Mobutu Sese Seko was a freedom fighter, didn’t you know it? So was Stroessner of Paraguay. Since they were "anti-Communist", they had to have been fighting for "freedom" and "democracy."
 
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