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Nurse strangles intruder - in self-defense
Posted by: McQ on Friday, September 08, 2006

In the wake of Dale's post about the right of self-defense comes this story out of Oregon:
A nurse returning from work discovered an intruder armed with a hammer in her home and strangled him with her bare hands, police said.

Susan Kuhnhausen, 51, ran to a neighbor's house after the confrontation Wednesday night. Police found the body of Edward Dalton Haffey 59, a convicted felon with a long police record.
Not to make light of him ending up tango uniform, it's probably a good thing she killed him. I mean imagine him going back to prison and word getting out who put him there.

It's not like Haffey is some little fellow either. Nor apparently, is he someone a normal person would care to spend much time around:
Haffey, about 5-foot-9 and 180 pounds, had convictions including conspiracy to commit aggravated murder, robbery, drug charges and possession of burglary tools.
But he picked the wrong house, wrong woman and wrong time for this little adventure:
Neighbors said Kuhnhausen's size - 5-foot-7 and 260 pounds - may have given her an advantage.
Heh ... "may!?" Apparently she used every bit of her advantage well.
"Everyone that I've talked to says 'Hurray for Susan,' said neighbor Annie Warnock, who called 911. "You didn't need to calm her. She's an emergency room nurse. She's used to dealing with crisis."
Yeah, well I'd not want to run into Ms. Kuhnhausen in a dark alley, that's for sure. Or a dark house. Especially if it was hers.

As for the would be robber?

"Hurray for Susan".
 
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5-foot-7 and 260 pounds
Wow - she should be lead blocking for Shaun Alexander.

Here’s hoping they leave her the hell alone.
 
Written By: meagain
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I think it is terrible everyone is jumping to conclusions about the robber. Just because he was in the house, makes it ok to kill him!!
 
Written By: Richard Bearman
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Rich -

You forgot your "/sarcasm" tag....

Bob
 
Written By: Bob
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You go, girl.
 
Written By: Achillea
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A 260-pound nurse strangles an intruder with her bare hands. There’s a scene right out of a Norman Rockwell painting.
 
Written By: Aldo
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Stupid urban panty waist liberals (no doubt raised with "time outs") like Mr. Bearman are selling out America as fast as their liberal politicians and judges can do it. No wonder we have to have specific laws to protect our rights in our homes against criminals [who are well aware of these judges]. Oregon is blessed, especially in the Portland area, with more than its share of liberals. Trust me, they will "adopt" this burglar and make the nurse’s life hell. Pfeh!
Not that the circumstances, like any killing, should not be thoroughly investigated in order to make sure that this was actually a case of self defense.
Rumor has it that Cindy Sheehan is on the way to Portland to use her expertise to help right this wrong.
 
Written By: Notherbob2
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I read one article from another source (I won’t say which one although I’d like to but don’t want to give them "free hits" for their site but it was out of OR state) that tried to paint the nurse badly. Shame (actually worse) on them. As far as I’m concerned he got what he deserved & she was just defending "house & home" as well as herself. And yes, Richard Bearman it DOES MAKE IT ALRIGHT to kill him for him "just being in her house".

I just read an article dated/time stamped for yesterday that says the detectives say the case is self-defense & she wouldn’t be "bothered any further". GOOD.
 
Written By: A.B.
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I think it is terrible everyone is jumping to conclusions about the robber. Just because he was in the house, makes it ok to kill him!!
Wrtitten by: Richard Bearman

Perhaps Mr. Bearman missed this:
A nurse returning from work discovered an intruder armed with a hammer in her home
Never bring a hammer to a wrestling match.
Or a gunfight, for that matter.
 
Written By: Joe Mama
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Richard Bearman, unless he’s serving up a dollop of sarcasm, seems to be of the ilk that would have the nurse negotiate with the armed burglar ("Can’t we all get along?"), or better yet, forgo her right to self-defense by fleeing her own home and letting the burglar decide whether to pursue her with that hammer, or just steal everything of value he could find in the house.

Yep. Sounds like a Birkenstock-wearin’, dulcimer strummin’, UN-loving liberal to me.

And oh yes: it’s really the nurse’s fault, you see, because she hadn’t bought a $2000 security system for her house. IOW She was "asking for it".
 
Written By: J. Elink
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Is it time to outlaw her weapon now?
 
Written By: ic
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Yay for Susan!

Maybe her ex is a carpenter. ; )
 
Written By: Nancy Perkins
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Not only is she entitled to strangle the SOB to death, she is morally OBLIGATED to, in my book. If she had stopped short and let the clown live, he’d have been on the street faster than a Clinton orgasm and some other poor citizen, no doubt less well-equipped for defense, would have faced a claw hammer. You shouldn’t kill them just because it’s fun — you should kill them for the good of society. In 1950 I wouldn’t have argued so, but since the liberals have largely destroyed the justice system .... well, kill ’em when you legally can, and enjoy ! Think of it as a Holy Sacrament, like lying to the IRS or any Federal investigator.

I am in awe of this nice lady. Most people think it’s quick and easy to strangle someone barehanded, based on the phony movies they’ve seen, but it actually takes a fair amount of strength, particularly to keep the dirtbag from breaking loose, and a far longer time than you’d think. Most people’s hands couldn’t hold the grip that long, so I suspect she maybe got her forearm around his neck from behind.

Either way — congratulations are in order. They should hang a medal on her.
 
Written By: MSgt White
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Has anyone found a picture of this nurse? Maybe she was surprised, then charged into him and knocked him down. Once she was on top of him, she suddenly realized that she could strangle him with her LEGS… Remember this was a fight to the death, and in those situations primitive instincts take over. She probably wrapped her THIGHS around his neck in a wrestling scissor hold… I read that she was a real advocate of women’s self defense… maybe she worked out or boxed…. Plus if she were supporting 260 pounds, her leg muscles would have gotten an intense natural workout everyday just supporting all that weight... remember the female thighs can be lethel !!! Perhaps if this was the method, she probably does not want to reveal this … and is claiming it was JUST her hands !!!
 
Written By: John Doo
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Well, I guess the effete liberals who read here are wetting their pants and cowering under their beds, frightened to death that this poor fellow’s civil rights were in some way compromised. I would call that misplaced priorities, similar to the problems they are trying to create about surveillance programs, etc. Once we have verified that the killing was in self defense our concern and activities should be centered on helping the nurse and publicizing the fate of this criminal as a message to all the other criminals who are calculating the odds of getting away with similar activities. Having any other concern for the fate of this criminal is socially sick.
Msgt said that in a much more colorful manner, but its validity is unchallenged.
Yes, for anyone still retaining common sense, the nurse is a hero. Liberals, in their denial, will attempt to make light of this matter, since they cannot deal with the reality of it. They will attempt to make it a story of arcane occurence; similar to the panda rolling on her baby panda, and worthy of only momentary attention. Something to perhaps share a joke about over a latte. Mr. Doo’s comment is a step in that direction. Damned fools will get us all killed.
There really isn’t anything funny about it, is there?
 
Written By: Notherbob2
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Notherbob2, I was not trying to be funny, I was just stating some gruesome truths about what could have happened. Have you ever watched high school or college wrestling? The leg scissors is not a joke. And, she had been involved with promoting women’s self defense, it was in one news article. Respectfully, John Doo
 
Written By: John Doo
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Yes, maybe they should register her hands or legs as the case may be.

A lot of ground grappling systems have very good techniques that anyone of any size can do.

I say good on her.
 
Written By: capt joe
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Y’all seem to wonder that a woman of any size could strangle a man. Did you forget she’s a nurse? Dirty little secret: Knowing how to put it back together means knowing how to take it apart. Think on it.

Otherwise - Hurray for Susan!
 
Written By: Gil
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If only everyone was made equal, she couldn’t have attacked this poor poor robber.

/sarcasm.

"The year was 2081, and everybody was finally equal. They weren’t only equal before God and the law. They were equal every which way. Nobody was smarter than anybody else. Nobody was better looking than anybody else. Nobody was stronger or quicker than anybody else. All this equality was due to the 211th, 212th, and 213th Amendments to the Constitution, and to the unceasing vigilance of agents of the United States Handicapper General."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diana_Moon_Glampers
 
Written By: AntiCitizenOne
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My girl’s cousin is a cop in Portland and he said the case is not closed because some feel she used excessive force. What the media isnt saying is that she grappled with him, got and top and kept slammin her weight on his chest, Then she grabbed his testicles with one hand and wrenched and twisted while her other hand grabbed his windpipe and crushed his trachea and adams apple.
 
Written By: raslufc
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Ok. So, what’s the problem?
 
Written By: Dale Franks
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"Oregon is blessed, especially in the Portland area, with more than its share of liberals. Trust me, they will "adopt" this burglar and make the nurse’s life hell."
..."some feel she used excessive force..."
QED

The Egyptians had locusts; we have liberals.
 
Written By: Notherbob2
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She may have used "excessive force?" And just how was he planning to use the hammer? He already had a conviction for attempted murder. Given his extensive police record, there is litle doubt he intended to maim or murder whoever got in the way of burglarizing this home. It was either him or her. And for a change it wasn’t the woman. Guys like him count on women being reluctant to fight back.
 
Written By: Nancy R
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Excessive force? Isn’t that the same as saying it wasn’t a fair fight? Was she suppose to give him time to regain his composure so he could begin his attack on her with the hammer? He was inside her home with a hammer to be used as a weapon (not hanging pictures) and if she had a gun it would have been perfectly legal for her to shoot him.

Having been a nurse for 15 yrs I can tell you that being an ER nurse requires a lot of physical strength, stamina, and the ability to think fast on your feet. (don’t let the 260# fool you) Susan obviously has all of these qualities! Think about the physical work involved to climb up on a gurney to do chest compressions for CPR, not to mention wrestling with the not so infrequent crazies that end up in the ER especially in large cities.

Just after this story came out there was another report of a wheelchair-bound woman in Harlem. A guy tried to mug her and she shot him, hitting him in the elbow. The gun was registered, so she was carrying it legally. AND when this incident took place she was on her was to shooting practice! LOL!!! It sounds like women are becoming much more assertive.

 
Written By: Jude
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I think it is terrible everyone is jumping to conclusions about the robber. Just because he was in the house, makes it ok to kill him!!
Yep. Sure does. That’s the way it works. You break into a private home, you take your life into your own hands.

And that, by the way, is the way it should be.
 
Written By: Dale Franks
URL: http://www.qando.net
Quote from Gil: "Did you forget she’s a nurse? Dirty little secret: Knowing how to put it back together means knowing how to take it apart. Think on it."

Thats exactly what I thought when I read this. Nurses spend a better part of their day looking out for any potential threats to their patient’s life and health. This makes them very proficient at knowing exactly what kills. Just follow the ABC’s of trauma ER medicine: (A)irway (B)reathing (C)irculation.

Also, one of the more recent prolific serial killers was Charles Cullen who was a nurse that killed approx 40 people. http://crime.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://nurse101.com/cullen.htm
 
Written By: Josh Reiter
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A couple of scenarios :

a)They met in a bar/online/in a shop and she lured him back to her place deliberately to do away with him,for as yet unknown reasons.

b)He was disturbed/confused/having a psychotic episode,and went into her house by mistake.

Still sure he deserved to die ?
 
Written By: Blewyn
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Still sure he deserved to die ?
Yes. And that won’t change until you present some evidence to support your scenarios. We can play "what if" all day.
 
Written By: Jordan
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What if the "nurse" is merely a shape-shifting, blood-sucking alien vampire? What if the guy had a hammer AND A STAKE, to destroy the vampire? Did he STILL deserve to die? Answer me NOW, Jordan?
 
Written By: Joe
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Joe, that was so much better than the very similar comment I was about to post.
 
Written By: BrianOfAtlanta
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Well BrianofAtlanta Capt.Joe and I ARE trained professionals at this sort of thing...
 
Written By: Joe
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I hadn’t considered that, Joe. Check his pockets for garlic.
 
Written By: Jordan
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I have a friend of mine who was a gymnast and knows self defense. She got me in the neck scissors hold one time and knocked me out in about 10 seconds. I really thought I was going to die. She is 5’2" and about 135lbs with amazing leg muscles. I can’t imagine what would have happened to me if she was 260lbs.
 
Written By: Dave
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Nurses are equiped to cope with a crisis, and many are confident and strong. She probably handled this intruder like another day on the job. If you’re not paralyzed by fear, and your adrenaline is pumping - your strength can multiply a lot. Once she took the initiative, the guy probably panicked and lost his ambition, and found himself simply hoping she’d stop. But how do you let a guy with a hammer live? If you don’t kill him, he might kill you.
 
Written By: Darren
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Well Blewyn your scenarios were...COMPLETELY WRONG.
Here is the REAL reported reason he was there...HE WAS THERE TO MURDER HER.

Check it out from the Seattle Times:

Police: Strangled ’intruder’ a hit man
But after an investigation, police now say the intruder Kuhnhausen strangled was apparently a hit man hired by her estranged husband - Michael James Kuhnhausen Sr. - to kill her.
Haffey had worked as a custodian under Kuhnhausen at an adult video store
A background check showed Haffey had served lengthy prison terms for conspiracy to commit aggravated murder and convictions for robbery and burglary.
Inside a backpack Haffey left at the scene was a day planner with "Call Mike, Get letter," scribbled on the week of Sept. 4, the affidavit said. Michael Kuhnhausen’s cell phone number was jotted on the inside of a folder, it said.
she acted in self-defense
 
Written By: A.B.
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Oops, I ended up making an error yesterday in my post.

I incorrectly ID’d the source of my article as being from the Seattle Times WHEN IN FACT it was from the Seattle Post-Intelligencer.

Sorry for the error, however, the actual link & quotes from there were/are correct.
 
Written By: A.B.
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The guy rolled the dice and lost big. Do we have to go to such extremes to protect someone who put themselves in peril by comitting a crime?
 
Written By: Scrubby Scrubs
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