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Attack on US Embassy in Syria
Posted by: McQ on Tuesday, September 12, 2006

The US Embassy in Syria was attacked today by 4 terrorists.

Four?

They've been watching too many movies. Although armed with automatic weapons and hand grenades (and car bombs, some of which failed to go off) they never got beyond the high walls of the embassy. No US personnel were injured.

Apparently 3 of the attackers and one of the Syrian security personnel were killed. According to AP, Syria normally has 30 such security personnel on duty outside the embassy. Then, of course, there's the Marine contingent they'd have to get past inside.

One of the attackers was wounded and captured.

Versions of what exactly happened differ:
State television said four armed attackers "attempted to storm" the embassy, using automatic rifles and hand grenades. Syrian security guards attacked the gunmen, killing three and wounding a fourth, TV said.

The attackers came in two cars and parked one that was rigged with explosives in front of the embassy but did not blow it up, state-run TV reported. Explosives experts dismantled the bomb, it said.
AP gives another version from witnesses:
But a witness told The Associated Press that two gunmen drove up in front of the embassy, got out of their car, shot at the Syrian sentries at the building's entrance, and then detonated explosives in the car.

The witness, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the matter, said the security personnel fired back, and security forces rushed to the scene.

Television showed a delivery van loaded with pipe bombs strapped to large propane gas canisters outside the embassy. Had the bombs detonated, the explosions could have caused massive damage.

The video also showed the charred remains of a smaller car parked several feet behind the van.
Obviously a propane bomb might have indeed caused massive damage (depending on the size of the propane tank). But one wonders if the 4 would have survived the blast. The probably hoped to set it off when the Syrian security personnel converged on their position. One also has to wonder had they been successful in detonating that bomb and surviving it, how much damage Marines would have suffered given the "high wall" surrounding embassy and, one would assume, absorbing the majority of the blast.

Four guys though. Not much of a force to "storm" an embassy. Maybe a suicide team to test defenses?

Hmmm...

 
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I agree, not much of a force... unless they were hoping/counting on the Syrian security forces to stand aside.... which, frankly, I am surprised that they stood their ground. As much grief as we’re giving the Syrians, and as sympathetic they are to terrorists striking against the US, I wonder what to make of the fact that Assad gave the orders to actually defend the embassy.

And, as far as the attackers having to get past the Marine contingent, to dredge up a matter from some 25+ years ago, didn’t the Marines stand aside when the Iranian compound was attacked in 79? I sure hope that their ROEs have changed since then, that these days they would defend our embassies as fiercely as they could.
 
Written By: steve
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Awfully expensive way to test defenses.
 
Written By: Keith_Indy
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Yup ... 4 times as expensive as 1 suicide bomber.
 
Written By: McQ
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Well, I was thinking more that, it would be easy to test some defenses.

Like leaving a car in front of the embassy, or even driving up to it like you were out of control. Or sending unarmed groups of men to probe their reactions.
 
Written By: Keith_Indy
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Stephen Hunter had a book come out this past year on the effort by some Puerto Rican nationalists to assassinate President Truman. IIRC, it was just two men.

Admittedly, this was in the late 1940s, but the point is that such efforts are not always well thought through.

Certainly, it could be a probe of the defenses, a test to see whether the security people provided by Syria would do their jobs—-but it could also be a badly thought-out operation by a small group.
 
Written By: Lurking Observer
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I think this demonstrates the value of double fuzing to ensure proper detonation.
 
Written By: Joe
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Four guys in two vehicles? Perhaps they’d been watching too much Rat Patrol.
 
Written By: Achillea
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props to syria? .....that leaves a bad taste in ones mouth after saying it.
 
Written By: josh b
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The A-Team had only four guys. And look what they were able to accomplish.
 
Written By: mkultra
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MK, obviously this time BA did NOT come with them, probably couldn’t be coerced on the ’plane, because the bombs DID NOT explode. And BA stuff ALWAYS worked. Also, this may not have been them at all, because well they always shot a million rounds, no one died, and the police NEVER showed up until well after they ahd disappeared, none of which happened this time.
 
Written By: Joe
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I agree, not much of a force... unless they were hoping/counting on the Syrian security forces to stand aside.... which, frankly, I am surprised that they stood their ground.
Me, too.
As I said earlier to Jon... it does kinda put a dent in the arguments about Assad being an active problem. Clearly, there’s a dynamic here that’s not being acounted for.

I smell a fish....
 
Written By: Bithead
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Well, the dynamic not accounted for could be that the Syrian security forces are professionals, and take their job seriously, regardless of the target they are protecting. So, it may not have been in Assads hands at all.

Or it could be an elaborate ruse to get on our good side.
 
Written By: Keith_Indy
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Well Keith it culd be that the Syrian Intelligence and securities services don’t get on at all, and so the Intell Service decided to teach the US a lesson and they didn’t care if the Security Services paid a price in teaching that lesson...

Or it could be that the Muslim Brotherhood or some other Syrian dissident group acted as terrorists and your theory is correct.
 
Written By: Joe
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The attack accomplished what it set out to accomplish. Any terrorist event yesterday was guaranteed to get taken up by an international media collectively drooling in anticipation of anniversary events - Syria won the lottery in that nowhere else had anything to report. The press coverage may have been the objective.
 
Written By: Gil
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Syria is currently trying quite hard to find a way to suck up to us. Nothing like defending US troops from guys with RPG’s to drive that point across.

And, as far as the attackers having to get past the Marine contingent, to dredge up a matter from some 25+ years ago, didn’t the Marines stand aside when the Iranian compound was attacked in 79?

Iranians came at the embassy in the tens of thousands. Marine contingent was about 20 guys, as I recall from some recent reading.
 
Written By: glasnost
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Iranians came at the embassy in the tens of thousands. Marine contingent was about 20 guys, as I recall from some recent reading.
But they stood aside, even though (I recall) most of the tens of thousands of Iranians were unarmed.. and certainly (I hope) no match for well-trained and motivated Marines. Is there some magic ratio of attacker-to-defender that Marine guards are/were instructed to take into account when deciding whether to fight back?
 
Written By: steve
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Is there some magic ratio of attacker-to-defender that Marine guards are/were instructed to take into account when deciding whether to fight back?
Yeah, one each President Carter on the defender side equates to "don’t fight back".
 
Written By: Mark A. Flacy
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Yeah, one each President Carter on the defender side equates to "don’t fight back".
Yeah. Good thing we’re all such nonpartisan hang-together type Americans that four guys willing to kill themselves at election time can’t further fragment our culture into warring splinters. Otherwise, I’d be worried that terrorists using terror to terrorize people might actually be working for a change.
 
Written By: Gil
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I agree, not much of a force... unless they were hoping/counting on the Syrian security forces to stand aside.... which, frankly, I am surprised that they stood their ground.
I’m not....do you think Boy Assad wants to have his uniformed forces openly cooperate, be it actively or passively, in an act of war against us?
 
Written By: shark
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I think Shark is on the right track. I think that even more than Syria hates the US, they fear it.

The fear of US reprisal would most certainly be weighing in on the equation. If it was believed that the Syrian guards were somehow complicit, then such a reprisal would undoubtedly be forthcoming.
 
Written By: Liberty Dog
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Good thing we’re all such nonpartisan hang-together type Americans that four guys willing to kill themselves at election time can’t further fragment our culture into warring splinters.
Oh, I’ve always felt this way about President Carter. I don’t see the fragmentation, myself.
 
Written By: Mark A. Flacy
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Muslims killing muslims to protect Americans. Nahhh, there’s no way the terrorist factions can make any political hay out of that. No good for recruiting, even with the international press coverage.
 
Written By: Gil
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I think Shark is on the right track. I think that even more than Syria hates the US, they fear it.
Why should the Syrians hate the US ? They fought with us in GW-I against Saddam. They don’t have a problem with us disposing off Saddam in 2003....

Unfortunately, nobody fears the US anymore. Nobody.
 
Written By: Ivan
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Muslims killing muslims to protect Americans. Nahhh, there’s no way the terrorist factions can make any political hay out of that. No good for recruiting, even with the international press coverage
Given the frequency with which Muslim kills other muslim regardless of reason anywhere in the world, I doubt it will make a difference.
 
Written By: shark
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Here is a thought, maybe all the competent Jihadists have already killed themselves in Iraq?
 
Written By: kyle N
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Unfortunately, nobody fears the US anymore. Nobody.
Then they should all have a chat with Saddam Hussein, or Mullah Omar. Or Gadhaffi. Or maybe Gulbuddin Hikmatyar could use your counsel.

We win a lot more than we lose, and they know it. The chinless opthamologist is peeing his Brooks Brothers.
 
Written By: Pablo
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Then they should all have a chat with Saddam Hussein, or Mullah Omar. Or Gadhaffi. Or maybe Gulbuddin Hikmatyar could use your counsel.


Ahmednijad, Kim-Jong, Musharraf, Hizbullah, OBL & Chavez are laughing their collective asses off
 
Written By: Ivan
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Ahmednijad,Mayhap, but oil fell for 7 days straight, it’s at a 5 month low. No oil revenue means Iran is back to nasty choices: 1) Guns OR 2) Butter. Sound familiar? Possibly Ahmadenijad and Gorbachev could talk about the distorting effect of a corrupt, authoritarian power structure and a heavy defense budget have on long-term socio-political trends within a society.

Kim-Jong, I don’t think so. I’m sure he’s worried if he’ll be alive tomorrow. So. Korea’s fear is more that the North will collapse and they’ll be stuck with the mess, than that the Norks will come SOUTH. Ditto the PRC, so when all your neighbors fear only your COLLAPSE and not you, I doubt you sleep easy.

Musharraf, Why shouold he?

Hizbullah Possibly, BUT they know how close the Israelis came to eliminating them, so they probably aren’t too keen on an early re-match....

OBL Living in a cave, with most of his senior henchmen gone, the financial web tattered, the Taliban gone, his training camps shattered and his cadres dead or scattered? You tell me, Ivan, which would you rather be OBL 12 Sept 2001 or OBL 12 Sept 2006? You should try to stay within the bounds of reason.
& Chavez
Quite possibly. Of course with oil falling below $65 les bon temps are about to abruptly end in Venezuela.


Bottom-Line: For whatever reason, BDS, libertarianism, Paleo-con’ism, or just the natural human tendency to see YOUR problems but not the other guy’s you discount too steeply the problems each of these indviduals faces and overestimate the US’ inabilities to act.
 
Written By: Joe
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" even though (I recall) most of the tens of thousands of Iranians were unarmed.. and certainly (I hope) no match for well-trained and motivated Marines."

Well trained and motivated, but not suicidal. Not to mention the other folks in the embassy who would no doubt have been torn to shreds after the Marines opened fire. And what makes you think the Iranians were completely unarmed?
 
Written By: timactual
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Ahmednijad, Kim-Jong, Musharraf, Hizbullah, OBL & Chavez are laughing their collective asses off
No, I don’t think any of them are that stupid.
 
Written By: Pablo
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Moving on from the snark, here’s an interesting description:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060913/ap_on_re_mi_ea/syria_embassy_attack

The attackers came in two cars, one of them an explosives-laden pickup truck. The first car pulled up in front of the embassy’s entrance and three gunmen burst out. Shouting "Allahu akbar" — "God is great" — they threw hand grenades and fired automatic weapons toward the gate and a Syrian guard post, sparking a 15-minute gunbattle.

At the same time, the truck — filled with pipe bombs rigged to gas canisters — pulled up to another gate on the other side of the triangle-shaped compound. But when the shooting erupted, the driver ran away without detonating it. The driver was shot and arrested, and the truck did not explode.


It looks to me like - this depends on the strength of the charges in the truck, of course, but assuming they were big enough - those four guys had a simple but decent plan that worked close to perfect until the trigger man on the weak side chickened out.

If terrorist #4 had detonated the truck, we might be reading a rather different set of stories.

And - it’s sick, but it’s true - the Syrian government would probably be in a stronger position afterwards.
 
Written By: glasnost
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