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Detainee Bill: OK Democrats, here’s your chance ...
Posted by: McQ on Tuesday, September 26, 2006

Not that I really expect them to take advantage of it. It would mean they'd actually have to take a stand:
Lawmakers and administration officials announced last week that they had reached accord on the plan for the detention and military trials of suspected terrorists, and it is scheduled for a vote this week. But in recent days the Bush administration and its House allies successfully pressed for a less restrictive description of how the government could designate civilians as "unlawful enemy combatants," the sources said yesterday. They spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of negotiations over the bill.
You can just hear the water flooding into this bill. My guess is it will be diluted beyond recognition, however McCain, et al, will be able to keep up the facade of winning in place while the administration pretty much has its way.

Can't wait 'till it hits the floor for a vote. What's your guess: in with a Republican whisper or in with a Democratic "bang"? Either way I'd bet it will pass. If it's the latter, it'll be mostly a party line vote (the Republican dissidents can't vote against it and then claim they won when it passes).

My guess, given the Dems recent behavior, it will most likely pass via the quiet route, with little if anything said by the minority party. And yeah, that's a challenge to them.
 
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Some Democrats are already and have already spoken out against this compromise. I’m too lazy to link, find Sen. Leahy.

But it’s be days late and dollars short to me as well if Reid lets this slip by. It’s enough to make me consider being a disullisioned progressive and skip voting altogether.

A living example of how devasating the centrist and media-driven CW (**compromise! or be scarrrrry radicals!) is to the chances of a successful Democratic party.
 
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This is a defining moment for US lawmakers, I agree.
I don’t know what the Democrats can do, though.
As I understand it, no amendments in the House were allowed. Add to that the fact that it’s a 94(or so) page bill, with hardly any time for study or debate. The pressure is strong to pass something, anything, so that the GOP pols can go home to brag about it.
The reality is, that not having the power to propose their own legislation, since no Republican would be caught dead voting for a Democrat’s bill, they have to depend on the saner members of the Senate to check the flaws in what’s being proposed. Just voting ’no’ is a bad option, without the ability to propose amendments or alternate legislation.
The Democrats can only talk, briefly, they don’t have the power to shape.

The whole process of how bills become laws stinks to high heaven. That’s why we end up with such lousy laws.
 
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