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North Korea: Radioactivity detected
Posted by: McQ on Saturday, October 14, 2006

Well that pretty much settles that:
A preliminary analysis of air samples from North Korea shows "radioactive debris consistent with a North Korea nuclear test," according to a statement from the office of the top U.S. intelligence official.

The statement, from the office of Director of National Intelligence John Negroponte, was sent to Capitol Hill but not released publicly. CNN obtained it from a congressional source.
What it settles is the "ruse" meme which claimed that this was all an elaborate hoax designed to simulate an underground nuclear explosion without really having one. The thought being that Kim wanted the world to believe it to be the case even if it wasn't (one supposes for the same reason Saddam wanted it believed he still had WMD when he didn't).

That doesn't mean the test was a success. It does, however, mean the test was attempted with nuclear material. The end result may have been no more than a 'dirty bomb', but the fact remains that apparently nobel gasses have been detected suggesting some sort of nuclear event in NoKo.

In reality, I don't think it really matters one way or the other. No, I take that back. I actually works to the advantage of the US, Japan and others if it the world believes NoKo detonated a nuke, whether he did or not ... wouldn't you say?
 
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What it settles is the "ruse" meme which claimed that this was all an elaborate hoax designed to simulate an underground nuclear explosion without really having one.
As an idle thought, what if North Korea simply blew up a lot of chemical explosives with a relatively small amount of fission material to fake the radioactive trace?

I would hope that the fallout test would look for specific isotopes that would be generated only by fission, but wouldn’t that simply look like nuclear reactor waste?
 
Written By: Mark A. Flacy
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I would hope that the fallout test would look for specific isotopes that would be generated only by fission, but wouldn’t that simply look like nuclear reactor waste?
I would assme that to be the case when they state "... air samples from North Korea shows "radioactive debris consistent with a North Korea nuclear test ..."
 
Written By: McQ
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I think that this time I want a second opinion on evidence "consistent with" the presence of WMDs.
 
Written By: timactual
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Either way we need to treat NoKo as the "rogue state" that it is.

Isolate it economically, and it will fall. Let China, SoKo, Russia, and Japan pickup the pieces, with an express promise to China, if NoKo falls, we leave the penisula.
 
Written By: Keith, Indy
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Silly question, but, will there be an independent investigation to determine who in Congress released this information to the press?
I know, I know, I’m just as glad they did, but it’s the principle of the thing, right?

As for Noko, I don’t see that it changes things much, if they failed this time, and I seriously think they do have the material, and WERE trying to make the weasel go pop, they’ll just try again anyway.
We should still be in ’now what’ mode either way.
At least the weenies won’t be able to say ’but they didn’t REALLY fire off a bomb" if the evidence is consistent with an successful test.

 
Written By: looker
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Didn’t those findings show up a little late?

I mean, I’m going to have to look at this a little more closely in terms of nuclear tests that have occurred in the past, but it seems to me that we knew within 24 HRS what the story was when other countries did nuclear testing.

Still, I’m with looker that it shouldn’t change our reaction to the situation all that much.

 
Written By: Bithead
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I’m getting sick of reading about our secrets from people who "are anonymous because they aren’t authorized to talk", or from "congressional sources".

It’s clear that the "we don’t know if they even tried a test" was an important part of our bargaining with the North Koreans, but some punk in congress thought they knew better.
 
Written By: Charles
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I would assme that to be the case when they state "... air samples from North Korea shows "radioactive debris consistent with a North Korea nuclear test ..."
OK, so what does a nuclear fission bomb generate that isn’t the same as the by-products of just nuclear fission? (Not meant to be snark; there’s a discussion at Jerry Pournelle’s web site. You’ll have to scroll down a bit from the link.)
 
Written By: Mark A. Flacy
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So this makes it official.

NoKo wastes a few kilograms of perfectly good plutonium and becomes the only nation known to flub it’s first nuclear test.
 
Written By: Neo
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No, I take that back. I actually works to the advantage of the US, Japan and others if it the world believes NoKo detonated a nuke, whether he did or not ... wouldn’t you say?
No, I wouldn’t. It would only be to our advantage if we had the collective balls to actually do something about it.

We didn’t connect the correct dots with Iraq and we’re in there fir the long haul because of the mistake. Now, the dots are connected for us, but I seriously doubt the American public wants another conflict.

I’m already hearing how they can’t deliver a weapon, that it wouldn’t be that high of a yield (some lefties apparently don’t care about other people’s lives), that as soon as Bush is out of office they’ll turn their nukes into flower baskets etc.

I say we’re f’ed, but that’s just me being a pissant.
 
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